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He was here for dinner and spent the entire meal lecturing my sister's french friend (she's staying with us this week) about her own country's politics and American taxes. Then I made some comment about how looking a decade younger than my actual age is making it hard to make new friends (which I need to do now that all my college friends have moved out of Chicago.) Only Grandpa took it to mean I'm having trouble attracting a man because I look too young.
He spent the rest of the evening telling me how since I'm allergic to make-up I need to cut ten inches off my hair and wear it up all the time. Also I should get rid of all my dresses and start dressing more "severe," with dark colors. Because apparently a masculine appearance = maturity? And a young woman looking to meet people is code for "husband hunting."
I also have long hair and don't wear make-up and look young for my age. So hi5.
My hair is blue though. That would probably get a whole different set of lectures. It sure did from my family. :P
When ever a girlfriend of mine goes through a breakup, or even a rough patch (if I am feeling sassy) I'll suggest we go Boy Shopping.
Which is universally understood to be getting lunch or coffee and talking about relationships while hoping that cuties walk by. Which is why it doesn't make me nearly as uncomfortable as going to a bar looking for a one night stand (the typical male equivalent).
Your hair sounds awesome! Blue's my favorite color! But yeah, my family would KILL me if I dyed my hair blue. Although they'd probably kill me if I dyed my hair at all. Because my hair is RED. And in my family, redheaded females must keep their hair RED, marry blond or redheaded men, and produce more girls with RED hair.
The redheaded men in the family, mind you, are under no such obligations.
Though I guess I might feel differently if I was born with it.
Ceres- I actually do like my hair color a lot. My family is just kind of shitty about it. (When I find my phone I'll post a picture of it in the fashion thread.)
@HellaJeff
broseph if you ever wanted to talk to me further about this stuff, feel free to PM me too
i'm a pretty approachable dude
i can't promise to always have sound advice or whatever but i'm always an ear to listen
or an eyeball to read, as the case may be
http://www.usprisonculture.com/blog/2014/08/04/mistaken-identity-the-violent-un-gendering-of-black-women-and-the-nypd/
Basically, NYPD gets a domestic abuse call of a mother abusing her child. Decides to drag the woman outside her apartment half naked in front of the rest of the tenants. Also assaults and (allegedly) sprays her 4-year old granddaughter in the face with pepper spray. You know the kid they were suppose to be helping.
Best part of it is after all this not only is the entire family charged with assault and disorderly conduct but it was the wrong address.
Sexism, Racism, and police brutality all in one go.
One of my mother's sisters is seventy-something years old, has never had kids, never even gotten married, and she seems to be a perfectly happy individual to me.
I'll be back later to catch up, cause these threads are interesting, heartbreaking and always enlightening.
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You can still have kids though? Like, there are tons of options available to you if you decided to have children? From surrogates to adoption to just meeting someone with a uterus and giving it the old college try? I mean I don't think you need me to tell you this, but that's just some bullshit they're using as a cover so they don't have to just say "but eww trans people" directly
I was thinking tonight about what I want to do after I get married since I'm not changing my name, but I don't want to be Mrs Austin either. Maybe I'll be a mizz Austin, since everyone is going to get it wrong anyway. Fiance said maybe we could both hyphenate but he has a French last name and my first name is seven characters of Russian goodness and that just seems like a lot of spelling names out one letter at a time any time we need to do anything at all
At root, the "pro-life" thing isn't about protecting babies. It's a reaction to the loss of property rights over women. The bad thing about my woman (or women if I can afford them) getting an abortion isn't so much that a "baby" dies but that my property has been stolen and destroyed.
That's why pro-lifers are also almost always vehemently opposed to contraception as well. If I were a livestock farmer and I found out that somone had been giving all my cows the pill, that'd be almost as bad as finding out that someone had been giving the RU-486 after I'd had them serviced. There's nothing irrational about it; if makes perfect sense if you accept the axiom that a woman is always owned by a man, be it her father or her husband or whoever else.
Interesting fact: "rape" has the same root word as robbery. If you rape my woman you're literally stealing the right to have sex with her from me (or if she's my daughter, you're stealing valuable propert that I could have sold to another man). That's the actual crime committed: you've robbed me. That's why women were supposed to resist rape even at the cost of their own lives, when the rational course of action would be to not do this. EDIT: It's also why it has traditionally been acceptable or even explicitly legal to kill another man for having sex with your woman even if she consented.
So if you've ever wondered why so many cultures colloquially call women "cows" or compare them to other livestock, now you know. Because for most of human history, that's exactly what they were.
And now you know why "pro life" politics is so closely identified with conservative politics.
Le horror!
In my family, that is possibly the most rebellious thing a person can do.
There's this old card game you may have heard of. Children play it, or, well, they did when I went to fuckin' school.
It's called "Old Maid." You get dealt some cards, you draw new cards, and though the rules are fuzzy I do remember one of the chief ambitions of the game is to get rid of an Old Maid or simply avoid drawing one. Getting rid of an Old Maid is a fucking ordeal. It's the challenge that makes the game fun, for fuck'sake.
Now, the game never goes into details. It never explains what an Old Maid is.
Is it a maid that polishes your plaques and awards until your names are unrecognizable? Does she wash your whites with colors and thereby ruin your good linens? Are her eyes merely rheumy and her hands arthritic and she deserves retirement?
There are millions of reasons to get rid of an Old Maid, but these are all circumstantial, and rooted entirely in the concept of the maid being person employed to clean up after you. Could there be one concept of an Old Maid that supercedes this?
Yeah. Virginity. The old unmarried relative. The old woman who bore no children and wed no man. The geriatric virgin. She will accomplish nothing. She has accomplished nothing. Her existence is unsavory and as such any card designated to be an Old Maid becomes an object to discard. She has no children to take care of her. As such, you must take care of her. She is an imposition.
The game is about inconveniencing that discard.
TL:DR I need feminism because this is a real fucking thing I learned as a kid and I'm not happy about it. Half because I learned the game as a kid, but maybe a bigger half (if such a thing is possible) was the realization that a I had been taught at such a young age to be fertile to such concepts and arguments.
BECASUE-OF-THE-WONDERFUL-THINGS-IT-DOES!!!!
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Sorry I'm late on that one, but I felt that a Wizard of Oz pun was overdue.
we're off to see the wizard, the wonderful wizard of oz
Me?
Edit: My bad
Nah his post. See, he edited it.
Oh shit, my mistake, thanks for pointing that out
Yo you and Tynic and Usagi need to just get together and build an army of robots that straight up punt mouthy dudes in the weiner
"Hey did you need some help doublechecking those equations--" BAM. WEINERSLAM.
Actually he's named after scooter of catch a riiiide fame
Ok wow
So I know you're coming from a good place and most of your post is quite accurate, but this last sentence is wow
Because a) actually that's not true for 'most of human history'. From what we know of prehistoric tribes (and this is highly limited), there is no real suggestion that the patriarchal medieval concepts described in this post are anything other than a post-agrarian phenomenon, and even then it's by no means universal. We know women have had widely varying degrees of autonomy and respect in post-Bronze Age cultures.
Most of human history is unrecorded. We just don't know very much about what it was like. And because we have such limited information, what we do receive as common wisdom about extinct cultures is heavily influenced by the biases of the paleo anthropologists themselves. Additionally, modern nomadic cultures, which may be the closest we can get to our ancient lifestyles, by no means universally reflect this 'property' attitude towards women, even ones which are highly gender segregated. So that statement is painting with a very broad brush, at the least.
And b) the way you phrased that sentence really got my back up. I wish you'd said "exactly what they were thought of", or something. It would have been inaccurate but less offensive.
It may seem a small thing, but women have never been cows, even in a society that may consider them such. It's a phrasing that erases the agency of women in all premodern cultures. It's saying "you were cattle for thousands of years, until we became more enlightened and you were raised up to the status of people.". Women were always people, just some eras and places have attempted (usually not very successfully!) to keep them from considering themselves as such.
I know it's not what you meant but it's a little... unfortunately worded.
That way you keep the sentiment, accuracy, and concise nature of the sentence.
Really? Are you sure that was me? I think I talked about it like one time nearly a year ago.
Really happy if you found it helpful though
I just feel like you are maybe talking about someone else.
This just tickles me. 8->
A nice little extra "Fuck you" to the state trying to shut them down.
I usually love delving into silly comment sections.
But on issues regarding homosexuality and bisexuality, gender identity and other hot topics, I just can't really bear it.
Especially with stories about transgendered kids and such, there's always some people going "HOW DARE THE PARENTS FORCE THEIR CHILD INTO BLAH BLAH"
or "Clearly they should wait until after puberty, even though this clearly makes transitioning a million times more difficult, blah blah"
Just a bunch of dumb shit from people who clearly have never spoken to a human being that knows anything about this stuff.
Well sure. L. Frank Baum was a serious feminist, radical for his age. If you've ever read the books, you know they're full of strong female characters, heroes and villains. Dorothy was way sassier (in the best sort of way) in the books too.
You could even read some LGBT themes into them too with
Yeah well, the grass hair is always greener redder, etc.
I did not know any of that.
Thank you!
Once during a D&D session, our party was tasked with delivering a message to some important lord or King or whatever.
Me: "We're off to bring the messaaaage!" :whistle:
Everyone else at the table: "The wonderful message of Oz!" :whistle:
That makes way too much sense.
Especially since Scooter is exactly the kind of dog who would say "Well hey c'mon in! I ain't gon' bite, prob'ly..."