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[Superhero Movies] You're Welcome

OdinOdin Registered User regular
edited August 2014 in Social Entropy++
Superhero movies have a long history of providing entertainment for moviegoers everywhere. Back in 1990, Marvel ventured for the first time into the world of film-making with the classic "Captain America", which was an instant hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cs8rFsmhNTc

"Guardians of the Galaxy" is Marvel's latest effort and currently showing in theaters across the globe.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crIaEzXgqto

2015 will see the release of "Avengers: Age of Ultron" and "Ant-Man"

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMrswhnMZQo

For future Superhero movie news, please refer to the -Tal Review for all of the latest scoops.

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  • BYToadyBYToady Registered User regular
    Guardians of the Galaxy was so damn good.

    So many 80's references.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Not to shit on your OP, but

    1944: Captain America
    1986: Howard the Duck
    1989: The Punisher

    :P

  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    Guys if this Katee Sackhoff secret project thing is a Danvers joint, I'm gonna need a fainting couch.

  • OdinOdin Registered User regular
    Not to shit on your OP, but

    1944: Captain America
    1986: Howard the Duck
    1989: The Punisher

    :P

    I'm aware, I was just being silly

  • EvilpolarbearEvilpolarbear Registered User regular
    So thinking about it, I really appreciated how many of the alien races in GotG were make-up based.
    I know there was Rocket and Groot, and I'm aware that a lot of people don't like it in sci-fi when alien races just happen to be humanoid-shaped, but I really enjoyed the fact they didn't CG everything.

  • GaryOGaryO Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    GotG has actually made me slightly less excited for Avengers 2
    Just because Avengers 2 won't be the Guardians sequel.

    I need more Guardians of the Galaxy in my life.

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  • LegbaLegba He did. Registered User regular
    I just saw Guardians. It had some bumps along the road but there were just so many individual funny moments that I spent most of the movie with a grin on my face.
    "We're just like Kevin Bacon!"

    I absolutely condone James Gunn being given the reigns of a Star Wars movie. It'll kick ass.

  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    Does DC have a analogue for Hydra and Shield?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Guek wrote: »
    Does DC have a analogue for Hydra and Shield?
    Kobra and Checkmate

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Turns out there's a neat little easter egg in Guardians
    One of the leech-slug-aliens from James Gunn's Slither is in the Collector's zoo

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    Eh. Is Kobra really that big of a villain organization? It revolves around one guy, right? Seems small time compared to Hydra or AIM. The closest parallel I can come up with is the League of Shadows.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Guek wrote: »
    Eh. Is Kobra really that big of a villain organization? It revolves around one guy, right? Seems small time compared to Hydra or AIM. The closest parallel I can come up with is the League of Shadows.
    The League of Shadows ain't on par with, like, HYDRA

    They're just a bunch of ninjas hidden in the mountains/a desert stronghold sometimes

    Kobra isn't as big as HYDRA/AIM but it is a lot more similar

    HIVE would also work

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Guek wrote: »
    Eh. Is Kobra really that big of a villain organization? It revolves around one guy, right? Seems small time compared to Hydra or AIM. The closest parallel I can come up with is the League of Shadows.
    The League of Shadows ain't on par with, like, HYDRA

    They're just a bunch of ninjas hidden in the mountains/a desert stronghold sometimes

    Kobra isn't as big as HYDRA/AIM but it is a lot more similar

    HIVE would also work

    Haven't the League of Shadows altered the course of history over centuries though?

    I guess I can see HIVE, but they're more cultist oriented, right?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Nah, Kobra is way more cult-y than HIVE. Queen Bee just uses mind control on her cronies sometimes

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  • vegeta_666vegeta_666 CanadaRegistered User regular
    Read Uncanny and New Avengers vol 1 today. They both definitely left me wanting to know more and see where the story goes.

    That said, I definitely feel like I'm missing out on some back story with the whole Professor X and Cyclops thing. I get the idea but I think I might want to get some more details.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    vegeta_666 wrote: »
    Read Uncanny and New Avengers vol 1 today. They both definitely left me wanting to know more and see where the story goes.

    That said, I definitely feel like I'm missing out on some back story with the whole Professor X and Cyclops thing. I get the idea but I think I might want to get some more details.

    All you need to know is Cyclops got posessed with the Pheonix, and when it finally consumed it, Professor X tried to stop him and Pheonix-Clops killed him. You can read more about it and Avengers vs X-Men, but I don't recommend it.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Eeeeh AvX wasn't that bad

    It's worth a read, just don't expect an amazing story

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  • GuekGuek Registered User regular
    It's not that bad if you're not sick of heroes fighting other heroes.

  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    I'd say that ARGUS is the current SHIELD equivalent, since they haven't used Checkmate post-Flashpoint

    But they will once they hire me!

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    I'd say that ARGUS is the current SHIELD equivalent, since they haven't used Checkmate post-Flashpoint

    But they will once they hire me!
    Oh yeah, I forgot ARGUS was a thing

    I liked where they were going with it in the beginning but man that thing just fell apart and went nowhere huh

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  • OdinOdin Registered User regular
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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I still can't get over how much better MCU Drax was compared to comics Drax

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Guek wrote: »
    Eh. Is Kobra really that big of a villain organization? It revolves around one guy, right? Seems small time compared to Hydra or AIM. The closest parallel I can come up with is the League of Shadows.

    Kobra was a pretty big adversary for the Checkmate comic series a while back, infiltrating them and fucking with their plans and stuff

  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    There are two callback jokes in the movie that just fall completely flat for me
    The "just like Kevin Bacon" line and Drax going "finger to the throat means death" when he's crushing Korath's head

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PbD3I9eumM

    to both, even though they've gotten a laugh in the theater both times I've gone

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  • LuvTheMonkeyLuvTheMonkey High Sierra Serenade Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I still can't get over how much better MCU Drax was compared to comics Drax

    Does comics Drax do the entire "all speech is literal" thing?

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    That second one was eeeh to me but in regards to the first one you are crazy

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    I still can't get over how much better MCU Drax was compared to comics Drax

    Does comics Drax do the entire "all speech is literal" thing?
    No he's just a generic angry guy who really wants to kill Thanos

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  • Garlic BreadGarlic Bread i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a bitch i'm a Registered User, Disagreeable regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    I'd say that ARGUS is the current SHIELD equivalent, since they haven't used Checkmate post-Flashpoint

    But they will once they hire me!
    Oh yeah, I forgot ARGUS was a thing

    I liked where they were going with it in the beginning but man that thing just fell apart and went nowhere huh

    I don't really know anything about the comics ARGUS, but I'd say Arrow's ARGUS is similar to SHIELD

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Mr. G wrote: »
    There are two callback jokes in the movie that just fall completely flat for me
    The "just like Kevin Bacon" line and Drax going "finger to the throat means death" when he's crushing Korath's head

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PbD3I9eumM

    to both, even though they've gotten a laugh in the theater both times I've gone

    the first one of these I absolutely loved

    the second was rescued by
    "it's a metaphor!"

    "...kind of"

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Keith wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Keith wrote: »
    I'd say that ARGUS is the current SHIELD equivalent, since they haven't used Checkmate post-Flashpoint

    But they will once they hire me!
    Oh yeah, I forgot ARGUS was a thing

    I liked where they were going with it in the beginning but man that thing just fell apart and went nowhere huh

    I don't really know anything about the comics ARGUS, but I'd say Arrow's ARGUS is similar to SHIELD
    In the beginning of the New 52 they had ARGUS as this big stockpile of magical bullshit because they knew it was the most effective counter to the rise of the superhuman


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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Comic book Drax is not an honourable warrior, nor is he totally literal.

    He's a guy who destroys stuff. He's good at it. He doesn't really care about anything else and his general opinion of people is total disinterest.

    I like comic book Drax. But he's not the same character as MCU Drax.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    So thinking about it, I really appreciated how many of the alien races in GotG were make-up based.
    I know there was Rocket and Groot, and I'm aware that a lot of people don't like it in sci-fi when alien races just happen to be humanoid-shaped, but I really enjoyed the fact they didn't CG everything.

    I don't mind when aliens are humanoid shaped

    I mind when EVERY race is humanoid shaped

    Mass effect hit a nice balance

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Comic book Drax is not an honourable warrior, nor is he totally literal.

    He's a guy who destroys stuff. He's good at it. He doesn't really care about anything else and his general opinion of people is total disinterest.

    I like comic book Drax. But he's not the same character as MCU Drax.

    So Drax is fleshed out and given character hooks while Ronan is completely flattened

    Fair trade...?

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Solar wrote: »
    Comic book Drax is not an honourable warrior, nor is he totally literal.

    He's a guy who destroys stuff. He's good at it. He doesn't really care about anything else and his general opinion of people is total disinterest.

    I like comic book Drax. But he's not the same character as MCU Drax.
    Eeeeeeh

    they're similar enough that a comparison is warranted

    Family killed by Thanos/Ronan
    Driven by grief and rage
    Super-strong, uses knives

    the big difference is that MCU Drax has some interesting stuff on top of that, being completely literal, his super-boastful Thor-esque demeanor, whereas Comics Drax is just...angry? Like the only time I've ever really liked him is when he's really dry and sarcastic and that was really rare.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    In fact to be honest pretty much everyone in the Guardians movie has a harder edge in the comics other than Groot

    Star Lord is less loveable rogue and more apparent loveable rogue who actually is space nick fury and will do some nasty shit if needed. Drax is a killer who doesn't really have any interest in anyone else. Gamora is a cynical assassin with a lot of blood on her hands and not much of a heroic streak either. Rocket is gruffer and more serious.

  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Comic book Drax is not an honourable warrior, nor is he totally literal.

    He's a guy who destroys stuff. He's good at it. He doesn't really care about anything else and his general opinion of people is total disinterest.

    I like comic book Drax. But he's not the same character as MCU Drax.

    So Drax is fleshed out and given character hooks while Ronan is completely flattened

    Fair trade...?

    Drax has plenty of character in the comics. His character is that his family died, he was resurrected to do a job, and he doesn't really give a fuck any more. "I saw a light. There was nobody in it I wanted to see. Nothing more to talk about." He is sustained by the urge to do the job he was made for and a kind of residual feeling towards his daughter but that's about it, the rest of the time he's a coldly pragmatic shit kicker. Grief and rage don't really come into it.

    He might not be a particularly funny or openly expressive character, but he definitely has character.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Comic book Drax is not an honourable warrior, nor is he totally literal.

    He's a guy who destroys stuff. He's good at it. He doesn't really care about anything else and his general opinion of people is total disinterest.

    I like comic book Drax. But he's not the same character as MCU Drax.

    So Drax is fleshed out and given character hooks while Ronan is completely flattened

    Fair trade...?

    Ronan has always been a character that rarely shows depth

    but when he does show depth it's pretty great

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Personally I don't find "I'm driven by loss and don't care anymore" a particularly interesting character arc.

    It's just really generic and bland.

    Like, Drax is Space Punisher if Punisher didn't have ridiculous 80s action movie moments and a bone-dry sense of humor.

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  • Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    With a dry cool wit like that, Drax could be an action hero

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