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[Path of Exile] Cats on Damage Taken

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  • mccartmccart Registered User regular
    Hey that's my shop with the 5-link vis mortis! I've five-linked two so far this league trying to get myself a six link. I was able to buy the first two for 1 ex each, but the number available has fallen recently and I actually haven't tried to buy another one but I'm guessing getting another one for 1 ex would be difficult currently.

    I listed it for 4ex simply because there weren't any other 5-links listed and I figured I'd give that a shot. I haven't been on much since I listed it but I'm guessing that is a bit high. It's probably worth more like 3.2 or thereabouts.

    I guess I'm not sure how exactly this fits into the drillneck trading, but if you want me to get on sometime let me know I've been farting around in diablo again lately.

    _J_
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    This community is too awesome, I swear.
    mccart wrote: »
    I guess I'm not sure how exactly this fits into the drillneck trading, but if you want me to get on sometime let me know I've been farting around in diablo again lately.

    Probably by @_J_ giving you some agreeable level of compensation, you give me vis and I give J the drill.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Well that is quite amusing.

    At the moment I have 2 exalts, 22 chaos, and assorted other whatnot. I can probably farm another exalt by sometime this weekend. Here is my shitty store, if anything in there seems desirable.

    Happy to pay 4 exalts for the armor, if I can farm them. Or we can work something else out, or you guys can do the profitable thing and sell the drillneck for 7 exalts. Whatever is fair.

  • AresProphetAresProphet Registered User regular
    Facebreaker Witch was pretty fun, but I started to have concerns about durability going into Cruel Act 3 (and the desync, oh god the desync it burrrnssss usssss) right around the time I'm supposed to respec into CI. So I shelved her for a bit and switched back to my Incinitank

    ...why did I think Facebreaker was fast? 4k listed DPS at level 50 is cool and all but stuff is dying so much faster

    think it's the 100% pierce on Incinerate. I just point and click and stuff in that direction falls over dead after a second or two. as in horseshoes and hand-grenades, "almost" is good enough

    I need a quality Incinerate on Beyond and I can't frickin' find any that aren't 20/20 (and I'm not spending 2ex on one gem)

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  • AresProphetAresProphet Registered User regular
    so I just saw Build of the Week

    21 second Immortal Call

    jesus

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  • mccartmccart Registered User regular
    @‌_J_ I'd be fine with taking 2ex from you and giving you the chest, and then having you pay me another 1ex10c when you get around to it. That way when you catch Veevee you can trade the chest for the drillneck.

    I'm on now and should be on for at least an hour unless something comes up.

    VeeveeYilias
  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Dammit. I missed the Drillneck auction. If it falls through I can cobble together about the same J can.

    themightypuck on
    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Double post.

    themightypuck on
    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius

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  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Dammit. I missed the Drillneck auction. If it falls through I can cobble together about the same J can.

    _J_ does want it only on the condition he actually wants the drillneck after trying it on, which I can't blame the Vulcan for as it's just logical ;) . I'll make sure you're informed either way once this finally happens.

    Veevee on
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    @Veevee I have the Vis Mortis. If you're getting on tonight, I can stay up. If you don't want to get on I can hold the armor till tomorrow or whenever.

    Also, I <3<3<3 that this morning we were exchanging "fuck you"s, and now we're exchanging items in POE.

    Best community, ever.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    When emotions and illogical reality clash with cold, hard logic, a fuck you or two is inevitable.

    Oh, and it absolutely was not directed at you as a person, but your argument. Just wanted to get that out there and make sure it was clear.

    Veevee on
    _J_
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    When emotions and illogical reality clash with cold, hard logic, a fuck you or two is inevitable.

    Oh, and it absolutely was not directed at you as a person, but your argument. Just wanted to get that out there and make sure it was clear.

    Oh, of course. One's arguments are neither one's babies nor one's self.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Oh, and yeah, I'll try to hop on ASAP after I get home, shouldn't be much longer than 90 minutes at the extreme.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    Oh, and yeah, I'll try to hop on ASAP after I get home, shouldn't be much longer than 90 minutes at the extreme.

    Cool. I'm just writing test questions. @ or PM me when you get on, or if you find you won't be able to get on.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    I'm already getting giddy at finally getting my 5th Spectre. 4 already wrecks shit so fast, 5 is just going to be full of B)

    Lets see, 5 spectres +10 zombies + 14 skeletons (soon to be 15) + 35 Vaal skeletons (and still growing) + ~20 raging spirits...

    I think I can do better

    Veevee on
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Veevee wrote: »
    I'm already getting giddy at finally getting my 5th Spectre. 4 already wrecks shit so fast, 5 is just going to be full of B)

    Lets see, 5 spectres +10 zombies + 14 skeletons (soon to be 15) + 35 Vaal skeletons (and still growing) + ~20 raging spirits...

    I think I can do better

    Your character's name is Lagwell, right?

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    _J_ wrote: »
    Veevee wrote: »
    I'm already getting giddy at finally getting my 5th Spectre. 4 already wrecks shit so fast, 5 is just going to be full of B)

    Lets see, 5 spectres +10 zombies + 14 skeletons (soon to be 15) + 35 Vaal skeletons (and still growing) + ~20 raging spirits...

    I think I can do better

    Your character's name is Lagwell, right?

    Nah, SuperAwesomeLoveMuffin

    account name VeeveeV. In the PA guild if you are too

    Edit: durrrr, comedy! From _J_! Who would of thought?!

    Veevee on
    _J_
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    @_J_‌ getting on now

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Puck, I'd like you to equip drillneck tomorrow to see what your DPS says.

    Because these numbers don't make any damn sense.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    @themightypuck‌ trade went down, next awesome thing I get ill give you first shot

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    Well, other than when I 6L the Queen's Decree and Vis Mortis, I think this is my final skill set

    http://imgur.com/a/I1NoH#7

    Only thing that gives me any kind of problems are undying evangelists and other monsters with that bubble shell. I think it may finally be time to take on merciless Dom.

    _J_mccart
  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    i hate chroming for off color sockets

    because it inevitably ends with me spamming trade chat at 2 in the morning trying to buy chroms that no one is selling

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    Beasteh wrote: »
    *おなら*
    Grislomccart
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    i hate chroming for off color sockets

    because it inevitably ends with me spamming trade chat at 2 in the morning trying to buy chroms that no one is selling

    Have you been using the crafting bench for socket colors?

    It makes the process differently frustrating.

  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    _J_ wrote: »
    Puck, I'd like you to equip drillneck tomorrow to see what your DPS says.

    Because these numbers don't make any damn sense.

    Interesting. A level 16 pierce gets 55%. The quiver has 10% on it. Tree has 40% (which would require 5 regrets). I'm definitely curious about the drillneck.

    Edit: Interesting fact about pierce gem. 20q gives 15% chance to pierce which is a lot of bang per quality.

    themightypuck on
    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius

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  • mccartmccart Registered User regular
    @Veevee‌ make sure you give vaal haste a try, I find it is a lot stronger than vaal skeletons. (although I guess you could run both) I have it linked to increased duration. With vaal haste and flesh offering running my spectres delete everything before I can even cast arc to proc EE up to about level 75 maps. Plus it makes you cast and run faster. Gotta go fast!

  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    _J_ wrote: »
    i hate chroming for off color sockets

    because it inevitably ends with me spamming trade chat at 2 in the morning trying to buy chroms that no one is selling

    Have you been using the crafting bench for socket colors?

    It makes the process differently frustrating.
    I probably should look into that

    also I should use vaal haste...

    Big Red Tie on
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    Beasteh wrote: »
    *おなら*
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    mccart wrote: »
    @Veevee‌ make sure you give vaal haste a try, I find it is a lot stronger than vaal skeletons. (although I guess you could run both) I have it linked to increased duration. With vaal haste and flesh offering running my spectres delete everything before I can even cast arc to proc EE up to about level 75 maps. Plus it makes you cast and run faster. Gotta go fast!
    Running with Haste and Hatred on a reduced mana and generosity. They ALREADY do that, as long as it's tentacled. I might run a few tests in low level areas and see if I can find the best set up next time I can get several hours free.

    So far it seems to be tentacled with flame sentinels second and evangelists a distant third.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    edited October 2014
    _J_ wrote: »
    Puck, I'd like you to equip drillneck tomorrow to see what your DPS says.

    Because these numbers don't make any damn sense.

    Interesting. A level 16 pierce gets 55%. The quiver has 10% on it. Tree has 40% (which would require 5 regrets). I'm definitely curious about the drillneck.

    Edit: Interesting fact about pierce gem. 20q gives 15% chance to pierce which is a lot of bang per quality.

    Cool. One of us will end up with the drillneck.

    I made a spreadsheet to help me figure out how the hell it adds the damage bonus. At some point you can put it on, and we'll amass more data.

    Edit:
    Bow	Pce%	DPS   	w/ Dr   DPS dif	% dif
    I p	100	898   	1155 	257   	28.62%
    I DP	100	1915.7	2647.7	732   	38.21%
    P P	10	440   	528   	88     	20.00%
    P DP	10	1042   	1313 	271   	26.01%
    P P	50	440   	576   	136   	30.91%
    P DP	50	1042 	1410 	368   	35.32%
    

    That might not make much sense. The short version is that I can't figure out what, the hell, drillneck is increasing by the pierce chance.

    _J_ on
  • Tiger BurningTiger Burning Dig if you will, the pictureRegistered User, SolidSaints Tube regular
    What are P and DP?

    Ain't no particular sign I'm more compatible with
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Pen and Double Pen is all I got, and I somehow don't think it's correct.

    @_J_ if you're looking at the DPS tooltip that pops up in game when hovering over the skill, it lies a lot. I believe it just takes the average damage from a single hit times the amount of hits per second. So something like pierce throws it all off. For example, on my Molten Strike build the tooltip DPS would only show the DPS for the initial hit and never factored in the meatballs that the skill produces.

    A skills true DPS is almost impossible to get.

    Edit: Oh, and I believe that the pierce check is done before any other support gems like chain or fork. A 100% pierce chance means a projectile should never fork or chain.

    Veevee on
  • Tiger BurningTiger Burning Dig if you will, the pictureRegistered User, SolidSaints Tube regular
    Recall that the boost from Drillneck is "increased damage" so it gets combined additively with other "increased" damage sources. So if you already have 200% increased damage from other things, adding Drillneck + 50% pierce will only increase your damage by 16.7% (50/300).

    Ain't no particular sign I'm more compatible with
  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Some people on Reddit explained it to me.

    The P and DP were
    P: Physical Damage
    DP: DPS
    Bow	Pce%	DPS   	w/ Dr   DPS dif	% dif
    I p	100	898   	1155 	257   	28.62%
    I DP	100	1915.7	2647.7	732   	38.21%
    

    The first line, p, is the "physical damage" line on the skill breakdown.
    The second line, DP, is the "DPS" line on the skill breakdown, the very top one on the offense tab.

    I knew physical damage was different from DPS, with elemental damage, but didn't know how drillneck interacted with those.

  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Last night I realized I was neglecting merciless dom, and holy shit hes a pussy. The whole fight was no more than 90 seconds long ( actual fighting no more than 10 or 15 seconds) and I didnt lose a single zombie or spectre.

    Shit drops though

    Veevee on
  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    Dom killed my 79 mm Mara once. That spirit stream hurts pretty bad and is really hard to get out of at point blank range. His second form is a joke though.

    I think I'd actually be able to stunlock him with a Stun gem in my HS, but I'd need to 5L my mace to get there and that's not going to happen.

    The horrible, artificially suppressed odds for 5L (which is fucking mandatory for endgame) and 6L is one of the things I hate the most about this game. Its like if D2 had locked lvl 15-20 out on your skill tree until you paid 10 high runes per skill, and it's stupid as hell. I should be able to rely on planning my builds skills 100% end of story. The random slot colors and skill gem drop nonsense or late merc quest rewards and socket/linkage grind is just fucking dumb.

  • JutranjoJutranjo Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Dom killed my 79 mm Mara once. That spirit stream hurts pretty bad and is really hard to get out of at point blank range. His second form is a joke though.

    I think I'd actually be able to stunlock him with a Stun gem in my HS, but I'd need to 5L my mace to get there and that's not going to happen.

    The horrible, artificially suppressed odds for 5L (which is fucking mandatory for endgame) and 6L is one of the things I hate the most about this game. Its like if D2 had locked lvl 15-20 out on your skill tree until you paid 10 high runes per skill, and it's stupid as hell. I should be able to rely on planning my builds skills 100% end of story. The random slot colors and skill gem drop nonsense or late merc quest rewards and socket/linkage grind is just fucking dumb.

    Unless you're playing self found on standard, masters and http://poe.trade/ pretty much cover you for most of everything you'd reasonably need. 5 links are only expensive if you're trying to link one yourself.

    edit: Just search the exact link and colours you want. There's a chance someone has a corrupted item of what you want and will sell it for cheap. Even if you end up buying a white 5L, just splurge a bit on the rest of the pieces to cover yourself in other areas.

    Running a lowlife wondertrap life marauder already seems really weird to me, why not just run maps and do chaos orb recipes and slowly amass currency by vendoring stuff. It's not fast but you can get most builds working for less than 2 exalts.

    Jutranjo on
  • VeeveeVeevee WisconsinRegistered User regular
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Dom killed my 79 mm Mara once. That spirit stream hurts pretty bad and is really hard to get out of at point blank range. His second form is a joke though.

    He doesn't even get a chance to do that. All the pre-dom fight took was about 5 or 6 seconds, maybe 10, and dom part 1 was sub 5 seconds, and dom part 2 was even faster.

    It was so fast I don't think it's possible for this character to die to dom.

    Like, I have an 88 second timer on my vaal skeletons (up from 20base), and I popped them as the voice acting started and they didn't disappear until a good 10 seconds after the fight was over.

  • _J__J_ Pedant Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    @themightypuck‌

    Are you still interested in Drillneck?

  • JihadJesusJihadJesus Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    Veevee wrote: »
    JihadJesus wrote: »
    Dom killed my 79 mm Mara once. That spirit stream hurts pretty bad and is really hard to get out of at point blank range. His second form is a joke though.

    He doesn't even get a chance to do that. All the pre-dom fight took was about 5 or 6 seconds, maybe 10, and dom part 1 was sub 5 seconds, and dom part 2 was even faster.

    It was so fast I don't think it's possible for this character to die to dom.

    Like, I have an 88 second timer on my vaal skeletons (up from 20base), and I popped them as the voice acting started and they didn't disappear until a good 10 seconds after the fight was over.
    Yeah, 4L HS isn't exactly a DPS king against the big bads. It's safe as shit though - he's the first thing I've fought that's actually been able to take an action other than getting pummeled in the face.

    Also, does anyone know of a database of possible flask mods? poemods doesnt include them and I'm trying to figure out if the diamond flask I'm holding for my CoC wander can roll accuracy or not.

    JihadJesus on
    Geth
  • mccartmccart Registered User regular
    edited October 2014
    flasks can't roll accurarcy

    mccart on
  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    edited October 2014
    _J_ wrote: »
    @themightypuck‌

    Are you still interested in Drillneck?

    I'd love to check it out. I will probably be on tonight.

    themightypuck on
    “Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears.”
    ― Marcus Aurelius

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