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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Really though Namor always has the ultimate win over T'Challa, as he said. Every single one of T'Challa's countrymen, every single person he loves, he owes to Namor. And Namor's ultimate "yeah I fucking killed all your people, what are you going to do about it" speech is pretty untoppable.

    Which is what makes it so great, really. The Illuminati consider Namor to be a monster. But when Reed looks at Sue, he knows that without Namor she'd be dead. When Hank looks at the X-Men, he knows that without Namor they'd all be dead. If T'Challa kills Namor, it's a hollow victory, the very chance to do so is something his most hated enemy gave to him.

    Steve, though, he gets to say "I would never have stood for this. I never pretended to be able to walk that path. And I won't stand for it now."

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Come back from this? You avin' a laugh?

    Namor has never had a series with more utterly character defining moments than New Avengers.

    I mean I know people disagree but it's like, come back from what. I am not joking, I think he's doing the best slash only thing you can do at the moment.

    Agreed, he is taking a fucking awful burden on himself and is the only reason Cap might have time to find a better way. He is damning himself for the good of the universe, and giving the "real" heroes an opportunity to save the day.

    This is where in at.

    Namor's position is obviously untenable. You can't just keep killing worlds, it is an infinite job. But what he's doing is specifically enabling Steve to work on a macro level.

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    SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Come back from this? You avin' a laugh?

    Namor has never had a series with more utterly character defining moments than New Avengers.

    I mean I know people disagree but it's like, come back from what. I am not joking, I think he's doing the best slash only thing you can do at the moment.

    Agreed, he is taking a fucking awful burden on himself and is the only reason Cap might have time to find a better way. He is damning himself for the good of the universe, and giving the "real" heroes an opportunity to save the day.

    This is where in at.

    Namor's position is obviously untenable. You can't just keep killing worlds, it is an infinite job. But what he's doing is specifically enabling Steve to work on a macro level.

    "All the angels have fallen and we devils are all that remain"

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    Kyougu wrote: »
    So Scott Mcnairy role may have been revealed...and wow.
    "Scoot is playing Jimmy Olsen, but with a bit of a twist. Jimmy was injured during the battle of Zod vs Superman. His legs where pinned under falling building rubble and that caused him to lose the legs. He now walks with the use of two prosthetic legs." The source goes on to add "He doesn't blame Superman for it [his loss of legs]. He feels grateful that Superman saved the world."
    http://www.thedevilseyes.com/2014/08/exclusive-scoot-mcnairys-role-revealed.html#.U_7xuCV19UN.twitter

    Batman: That photographer there. I need his prosthetic legs.
    Superman: His legs?

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    -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    namor is exactly the right character to make this decision

    it would be shitty if cap did it but this is well within namor's character

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    -Tal wrote: »
    namor is exactly the right character to make this decision

    it would be shitty if cap did it but this is well within namor's character

    Oh yeah I think if like, iron man did this I'd call bullshit, and I think Hickman is totally on point with them all flinching.

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    Kevin CristKevin Crist I make the devil hit his knees and say the 'our father'Registered User regular
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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    I saw that early, it's pretty accurate

    I was basically drax until I turned like 12

    Except with a lot more arm flailing and sitting on my head

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    I hope Dave Bautista sees that

    I think that would mean the world to him

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    GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    How do you sit on your head?

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    AtomicTofuAtomicTofu She's a straight-up supervillain, yo Registered User regular
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    Bluedude152Bluedude152 Registered User regular
    Gvzbgul wrote: »
    How do you sit on your head?

    I have never been able to figure out how I managed to do it

    But I have photo evidence that I could

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    cardboard delusionscardboard delusions USAgent PSN: USAgent31Registered User regular
    Anyone pick up Inhuman 4? I've had no luck trying to get the code on reddit.

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    OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    Owenashi wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Like to me a hero is supposed to look at two awful options and say no, I refuse, we can do better

    Its the same reason I hated me3s ending so much

    Well, that's what Cap is doing

    Cap feeling like the Illuminati's screwing it up is cool. Him feeling like there's much better options to solve this crisis and deciding to find them is cool.
    But according to the final two pages of the latest Avengers, him deciding to go after the Illuminati and using every Avenger to do so instead of finding said better options first isn't cool. I certainly won't be happy if I hear that's all he did during the eight-month skip coming up when it comes to the incursions.

    It seems like its caps job to stop murderers and genociders (is that a word)

    If Cap feels like the Illuminati has crossed a line he needs to beat them back over, that's all well and good. I just want him to focus first on stopping the deadlier threat of the incursions and who or whatever might be behind them. It's gonna be embarrassing (at the very least) if his planting a boot up Tony's armored backside is interrupted by an incursion.
    Which if a panel during Future Franklin's issue of the story is literal, it's a moment that's actually gonna happen. Oops.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Langly wrote: »
    Solar wrote: »
    Come back from this? You avin' a laugh?

    Namor has never had a series with more utterly character defining moments than New Avengers.

    I mean I know people disagree but it's like, come back from what. I am not joking, I think he's doing the best slash only thing you can do at the moment.

    Agreed, he is taking a fucking awful burden on himself and is the only reason Cap might have time to find a better way. He is damning himself for the good of the universe, and giving the "real" heroes an opportunity to save the day.
    Again

    The only reason the Illuminati were backed into such a corner is because they were too damned arrogant to ask for help

    If Cap and literally every other hero and, frankly, most villains had pooled their efforts who knows what they could have come up with

    The Great Society talked about literally moving their Earth out of the path of the incursion

    You're telling me Hulk, Hyperion, Thor, Captain Marvel, Captain Britain, Wonder Man, Molecule Man and every other powerhouse working at once couldn't give it a shot?

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Like I agree with you all that Namor is making the difficult, and necessary, choice to save billions

    But he is also being forced to do that because of a situation he and the Illuminati created themselves

    You aren't a hero just because you screwed things up and then made a difficult call to prevent them from being even more screwed up

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel.com reports that Dan Abnett will return to the world of Marvel prose novels for a new adventure featuring the Avengers. Entitled "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," the "Avengers" novel follows Abnett's "Rocket Raccoon & Groot: Steal the Galaxy!" which marked the publisher's first foray into original prose novels. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" focuses on the team as it's scattered to all corners of the world -- Captain America battles Hydra in Berlin; Black Widow and Hawkeye head to the Savage Land; Thor in Siberia; the Hulk and Nick Fury go to Madripoor and Iron Man faces down Ultron in Washington.

    ah yes the classic avengers line up of "people who were in the movie"

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel.com reports that Dan Abnett will return to the world of Marvel prose novels for a new adventure featuring the Avengers. Entitled "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," the "Avengers" novel follows Abnett's "Rocket Raccoon & Groot: Steal the Galaxy!" which marked the publisher's first foray into original prose novels. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" focuses on the team as it's scattered to all corners of the world -- Captain America battles Hydra in Berlin; Black Widow and Hawkeye head to the Savage Land; Thor in Siberia; the Hulk and Nick Fury go to Madripoor and Iron Man faces down Ultron in Washington.

    ah yes the classic avengers line up of "people who were in the movie"
    And also the core of every Avengers team since just before and after the movie?

    Like c'mon

    Those 6 (Fury's a bit weird) are easily the iconic Avengers line-up at this point

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    I'm crazy tired of it.

    Like at this point I'm glad AoU will at least add quicksilver and scarlet witch for variety before I get tired of them being in everything a couple of years later.

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel.com reports that Dan Abnett will return to the world of Marvel prose novels for a new adventure featuring the Avengers. Entitled "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," the "Avengers" novel follows Abnett's "Rocket Raccoon & Groot: Steal the Galaxy!" which marked the publisher's first foray into original prose novels. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" focuses on the team as it's scattered to all corners of the world -- Captain America battles Hydra in Berlin; Black Widow and Hawkeye head to the Savage Land; Thor in Siberia; the Hulk and Nick Fury go to Madripoor and Iron Man faces down Ultron in Washington.

    ah yes the classic avengers line up of "people who were in the movie"
    And also the core of every Avengers team since just before and after the movie?

    Like c'mon

    Those 6 (Fury's a bit weird) are easily the iconic Avengers line-up at this point

    Hulk may be a founding Avenger, but I'm pretty sure he was never actually on the team at any point between 1964 and 2012.

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    I'm crazy tired of it.

    Like at this point I'm glad AoU will at least add quicksilver and scarlet witch for variety before I get tired of them being in everything a couple of years later.

    We're about to start getting solo movies for new characters, and I will be very surprised if it's not a totally new team by the time we hit Avengers 3

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Maybe some legacies like Bucky Cap

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    jkylefultonjkylefulton Squid...or Kid? NNID - majpellRegistered User regular
    Technically he was invited back during Infinity Gauntlet.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Marvel.com reports that Dan Abnett will return to the world of Marvel prose novels for a new adventure featuring the Avengers. Entitled "Everybody Wants to Rule the World," the "Avengers" novel follows Abnett's "Rocket Raccoon & Groot: Steal the Galaxy!" which marked the publisher's first foray into original prose novels. "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" focuses on the team as it's scattered to all corners of the world -- Captain America battles Hydra in Berlin; Black Widow and Hawkeye head to the Savage Land; Thor in Siberia; the Hulk and Nick Fury go to Madripoor and Iron Man faces down Ultron in Washington.

    ah yes the classic avengers line up of "people who were in the movie"
    And also the core of every Avengers team since just before and after the movie?

    Like c'mon

    Those 6 (Fury's a bit weird) are easily the iconic Avengers line-up at this point

    Hulk may be a founding Avenger, but I'm pretty sure he was never actually on the team at any point between 1964 and 2012.
    That's why I said at this point?

    Like

    Post-movie Hulk and Pre-movie Hulk are very different

    If you asked people, even comics fans, who the iconic Avengers are I would be cold hard cash 9/10 times you'd get those 6 or at least something very similar

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye

    Man we barely even know what movie Hawkeye is even like

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye
    You realize the novel is in continuity and Dan Abnett has written Marvel comics for ages and his Rocket and Groot novel was super entrenched in the Marvel Universe and accurate to their characters

    You're being a downer for no reason dogg

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye
    You realize the novel is in continuity and Dan Abnett has written Marvel comics for ages and his Rocket and Groot novel was super entrenched in the Marvel Universe and accurate to their characters

    You're being a downer for no reason dogg

    Man I dunno I'm still salty about the one Marvel prose novel I read, the New Avengers one where Movie Hawkeye is inexplicably added to the team and everyone meets Black Widow for the first time and ???

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye

    Man we barely even know what movie Hawkeye is even like

    Yeah I sure would like someone to try and explain the character of Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye as he stands right now

    He's like a non-character

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Like the Rocket and Groot novel co-starred Gamora and a Rigellian Recorder, A renegade Galadorian Space Knight featured Nova Corpsman with actual powers, Annihilus and the Timely Corporation from those Rocket and Groot back-ups from Annihilators

    There's zero reason to expect the Avengers book to be any different

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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Though me being six to death of the movie Avengers line-up is mostly unrelated

    I feel like its a massively missed opportunity to not use a character yet to be featured in the movies or that can't be used in the movies in a book like this.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye

    Man we barely even know what movie Hawkeye is even like

    Yeah I sure would like someone to try and explain the character of Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye as he stands right now

    He's like a non-character

    Hopefully with his rumored bigger role in Avengers 2 and possibly a spot in Cap 3 they'll fill that in
    Year of the Hawk starts here, y'all

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye
    You realize the novel is in continuity and Dan Abnett has written Marvel comics for ages and his Rocket and Groot novel was super entrenched in the Marvel Universe and accurate to their characters

    You're being a downer for no reason dogg

    Man I dunno I'm still salty about the one Marvel prose novel I read, the New Avengers one where Movie Hawkeye is inexplicably added to the team and everyone meets Black Widow for the first time and ???
    Man that was written by someone who has never written for Marvel otherwise and was a rough adaptation of a nearly decade old story

    Marvel has said they intend their new line of novels to be in continuity and faithful to the characters and Marvel Universe



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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
    EMH Hawkeye showed more personality in 1 episode of a 22-minute cartoon than MCU Hawkeye has in one special cameo and another entire movie

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    Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye
    You realize the novel is in continuity and Dan Abnett has written Marvel comics for ages and his Rocket and Groot novel was super entrenched in the Marvel Universe and accurate to their characters

    You're being a downer for no reason dogg

    Man I dunno I'm still salty about the one Marvel prose novel I read, the New Avengers one where Movie Hawkeye is inexplicably added to the team and everyone meets Black Widow for the first time and ???

    I've never even heard of that novel

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Furu wrote: »
    Though me being six to death of the movie Avengers line-up is mostly unrelated

    I feel like its a massively missed opportunity to not use a character yet to be featured in the movies or that can't be used in the movies in a book like this.
    Not...really?

    I mean I agree that maybe including Carol(like in Endless Wartime) or T'Challa or something would be smart. And could happen, Gamoras role in the novel was kept hidden until release.

    But why would Marvel want to put characters like Spidey or Wolverine in a book ostensibly designed to appeal to/attract fans of the MCU Avengers.

    They want to push the characters they can actually make into huge stars.

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Mr. G wrote: »
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Also going to lay odds on novel Hawkeye inexplicably being just like movie Hawkeye and not remotely like comics Hawkeye

    Man we barely even know what movie Hawkeye is even like

    Yeah I sure would like someone to try and explain the character of Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye as he stands right now

    He's like a non-character

    Hopefully with his rumored bigger role in Avengers 2 and possibly a spot in Cap 3 they'll fill that in
    Year of the Hawk starts here, y'all
    It ain't rumored, Whedon has said Hawkeye and Hulk have two of the largest roles many times.

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    Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    YEAR OF THE HAWK

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    Mr. GMr. G Registered User regular
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    FuruFuru Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Furu wrote: »
    Though me being six to death of the movie Avengers line-up is mostly unrelated

    I feel like its a massively missed opportunity to not use a character yet to be featured in the movies or that can't be used in the movies in a book like this.
    Not...really?

    I mean I agree that maybe including Carol(like in Endless Wartime) or T'Challa or something would be smart. And could happen, Gamoras role in the novel was kept hidden until release.

    But why would Marvel want to put characters like Spidey or Wolverine in a book ostensibly designed to appeal to/attract fans of the MCU Avengers.

    They want to push the characters they can actually make into huge stars.

    Because fuck those guys, cater to me

    YES I'M BEING UNREASONABLE

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