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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    So, I saw they appeared on Netflix and having heard their reputations before, I need forumpinions on: Antichrist and Nymphomaniac. I've got a friend who really liked them, but she also liked human centipede.

    I'm fine with being uncomfortable for 2 hours so long as its for a good reason. I'm not good with gore etc. for its own sake. (Funny Games was good, if deliberately paced to make the viewer squirm.)

    Nymphomaniac is...complicated? There's a lot of sex and nudity but it never really feels pornographic. After awhile it's just part of the scenery.

    There's a lot of really dark comedy.

    I really don't know if it's worth 4 hours, I watched it in Netflix one night out of curiosity and boredom.

    The final scene alone is worth a watch if you can find it on YouTube.

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    AistanAistan Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    I saw Guardians of the Galaxy tonight. It was good fun, interested to see what they do with the next one. Weird that the 'realest' characters in terms of getting me emotionally involved were a magic tree person and a talking raccoon.

    The first scene kind of took me by surprise with how rough it was. Especially as
    I went with a friend whose mum currently has cancer, and another friend whose dad died of cancer.
    I wasn't expecting that kind of thing.

    I saw it with my mother.
    Her sister died of cancer, and my mother was the only person with her at the very end.

    So yeah, unexpectedly rough.

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    StraightziStraightzi Here we may reign secure, and in my choice, To reign is worth ambition though in HellRegistered User regular
    So, I saw they appeared on Netflix and having heard their reputations before, I need forumpinions on: Antichrist and Nymphomaniac. I've got a friend who really liked them, but she also liked human centipede.

    I'm fine with being uncomfortable for 2 hours so long as its for a good reason. I'm not good with gore etc. for its own sake. (Funny Games was good, if deliberately paced to make the viewer squirm.)

    I'm very fond of Antichrist. It's disturbing, but also a well acted, well shot, powerful film. I'm not sure if I will ever want to watch it again, because it is a supremely uncomfortable experience, but I recommend it heartily. I haven't watched Nymphomaniac yet, but I absolutely intend to.

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    Hey movies thread!

    I've been trying to catch up on movies lately. I recently watched Thor 2, Captain America 2, Iron Man 3, Inception and Full Metal Jacket

    The first three I already talked about in the superhero thread, so we won't go into those.

    I was disappointed with Inception. It seemed like the whole thing was trying to keep you on the edge, and I got worn out. I was just waiting for it to end after the 10th scene with the elevator. Sometimes it felt like it was making up rules as it went along

    Full Metal Jacket was good, well-
    It was good for the first 40 minutes. Then the two most interesting characters die, and it turns into a vietnam movie. There's nothing worng with that, but I think they could have done an entire film about basic training

    I feel like I'm being super negative. I don't mean to! In recent times I saw Fight Club, which was funny and I liked it quite a bit. Also, of the superhero movies I mentioned above, I really liked Thor 2 and Iron Man 3

    That's all I guess

    hi movies thread

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Ronnie your feelings on Full Metal Jacket are most people's feelings on Full Metal Jacket

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    edited September 2014
    YaYa wrote: »
    Ronnie your feelings on Full Metal Jacket are most people's feelings on Full Metal Jacket

    That's kind of unfortunate. I always hate to be of the popular opinion because then I feel like I missed out on the real message of the film

    There was another movie I felt this way about (the popular opinion part), but I can't for the life of me remember what it was


    Edit: Oh! No Country For Old Men. If you've seen it, you know what I mean with regards to Llewelyn

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    YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    Ronnie your feelings on Full Metal Jacket are most people's feelings on Full Metal Jacket

    That's kind of unfortunate. I always hate to be of the popular opinion because then I feel like I missed out on the real message of the film

    There was another movie I felt this way about (the popular opinion part), but I can't for the life of me remember what it was


    Edit: Oh! No Country For Old Men. If you've seen it, you know what I mean with regards to Llewelyn

    no I don't

    but that movie is very complicated

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    YaYa wrote: »
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    YaYa wrote: »
    Ronnie your feelings on Full Metal Jacket are most people's feelings on Full Metal Jacket

    That's kind of unfortunate. I always hate to be of the popular opinion because then I feel like I missed out on the real message of the film

    There was another movie I felt this way about (the popular opinion part), but I can't for the life of me remember what it was


    Edit: Oh! No Country For Old Men. If you've seen it, you know what I mean with regards to Llewelyn

    no I don't

    but that movie is very complicated

    Ah well
    I enjoyed the movie overall. Antoine was scary and cool, Llewelyn was clever.

    It built up a huge amount of tension between these two. Just a wonderful arc of man vs man

    Then just as we're getting to the climax... Llewelyn dies off screen to some other guys and his story is over

    I know the book was supposed to be about the cop, but the movie focused so hard on the Antoine Llewelyn conflict, and then resolved it in the most anti-climactic way possible

    Maybe I watched the movie wrong, though. Maybe I'll give it another shot some day

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    Oh yeah I agree about the anticlimactic bit.

    The problem I had with No Country might seem stupid but/so I'll spoil it.
    You can't use compressed air as a ranged weapon!

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    edited September 2014
    knitdan wrote: »
    Oh yeah I agree about the anticlimactic bit.

    The problem I had with No Country might seem stupid but/so I'll spoil it.
    You can't use compressed air as a ranged weapon!

    Do you mean any scene in particular?
    Because he was actually using a captive bolt pistol. It pushes out a piston that impacts the head, or if it's powerful/small enough, can penetrate the skull

    Though you say ranged, so I may be forgetting something

    Of course, I won't argue
    That they were generous with the laws of physics. A suppressor on a shotgun that quiet is almost goofy

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    Oh yeah I agree about the anticlimactic bit.

    The problem I had with No Country might seem stupid but/so I'll spoil it.
    You can't use compressed air as a ranged weapon!

    Do you mean any scene in particular?
    Because he was actually using a captive bolt pistol. It pushes out a piston that impacts the head, or if it's powerful/small enough, can penetrate the skull

    Though you say ranged, so I may be forgetting something

    Of course, I won't argue
    That they were generous with the laws of physics. A suppressor on a shotgun that quiet is almost goofy
    I know the bolt thing was what he used for close up shots, but if they claim he was using a suppressed shotgun that's probably what threw me off. Because he was doing a lot of silent damage to scenery with that thing and the first shot would have destroyed a suppressor.

    See also: the bolt thing being able to shoot the doorknob across the room.

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    HugmasterGeneralHugmasterGeneral Poopmaster General YobuttRegistered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    Oh yeah I agree about the anticlimactic bit.

    The problem I had with No Country might seem stupid but/so I'll spoil it.
    You can't use compressed air as a ranged weapon!

    Do you mean any scene in particular?
    Because he was actually using a captive bolt pistol. It pushes out a piston that impacts the head, or if it's powerful/small enough, can penetrate the skull

    Though you say ranged, so I may be forgetting something

    Of course, I won't argue
    That they were generous with the laws of physics. A suppressor on a shotgun that quiet is almost goofy
    I know the bolt thing was what he used for close up shots, but if they claim he was using a suppressed shotgun that's probably what threw me off. Because he was doing a lot of silent damage to scenery with that thing and the first shot would have destroyed a suppressor.

    See also: the bolt thing being able to shoot the doorknob across the room.
    Oh yeah, it was definitely a regular old shotgun, no air involved. And yeah, that suppressor was impossible

    I believe the lock could fly off like that, personally, even if it probably wouldn't

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    I'm taking the Films of David Lean this semester, so far we have watched A Brief Encounter (which was alright) and Great Expectations (which I really liked except for the ending).

    I'm excited for Kwai and Lawrence but holy shit Lean was a scummy dude

    6 wives, two of which were cousins(one of which he had a child with whom he abandoned and literally laughed about leaving) and all around gross womanizing behavior

    The professor also tries to apologize and justify it which is really annoying

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    Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    rfilyaw wrote: »
    knitdan wrote: »
    Oh yeah I agree about the anticlimactic bit.

    The problem I had with No Country might seem stupid but/so I'll spoil it.
    You can't use compressed air as a ranged weapon!

    Do you mean any scene in particular?
    Because he was actually using a captive bolt pistol. It pushes out a piston that impacts the head, or if it's powerful/small enough, can penetrate the skull

    Though you say ranged, so I may be forgetting something

    Of course, I won't argue
    That they were generous with the laws of physics. A suppressor on a shotgun that quiet is almost goofy

    Subsonic slug rounds and a suppressor can be very quiet.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cz8uZWtt3Q

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    Brovid HasselsmofBrovid Hasselsmof [Growling historic on the fury road] Registered User regular
    Subsonic Slug is my dubstep DJ name

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    BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    knitdan wrote: »
    Oh yeah I agree about the anticlimactic bit.

    The problem I had with No Country might seem stupid but/so I'll spoil it.
    You can't use compressed air as a ranged weapon!

    What? That was a silenced shotgun.

    Also, FMJ and NCfOM are both masterpieces all the way through and I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading the posts on this page.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    In my view, the ending of No Country is the whole point of the movie, and the "anticlimactic" nature is 100% necessary, important, and great. It's what elevates the movie from "excellent thriller" to "thoughtful meditation on the world's slow and inevitable entropic decline," for me.

    Which mightn't be what some folks want from their movies, but ain't every movie gotta be for everybody

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    BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    In my view, the ending of No Country is the whole point of the movie, and the "anticlimactic" nature is 100% necessary, important, and great. It's what elevates the movie from "excellent thriller" to "thoughtful meditation on the world's slow and inevitable entropic decline," for me.

    Which mightn't be what some folks want from their movies, but ain't every movie gotta be for everybody

    A lot of the best movies are fairly polarizing. Sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority of people who truly love 2001, every time it's mentioned in daily life or online I hear at least one person say "it's boring".

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    knitdanknitdan In ur base Killin ur guysRegistered User regular
    I don't think I've ever managed to watch it all the way through. I won't call it boring. Glacial is a much better word.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Bubby wrote: »
    In my view, the ending of No Country is the whole point of the movie, and the "anticlimactic" nature is 100% necessary, important, and great. It's what elevates the movie from "excellent thriller" to "thoughtful meditation on the world's slow and inevitable entropic decline," for me.

    Which mightn't be what some folks want from their movies, but ain't every movie gotta be for everybody

    A lot of the best movies are fairly polarizing. Sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority of people who truly love 2001, every time it's mentioned in daily life or online I hear at least one person say "it's boring".

    I don't think 2001 is boring, but I don't like it at all. I likewise despise the vast majority of Kubrick's output, which is a really unpopular attitude amongst my more cinephillic friends.

    I recognize him as objectively skilled, but Dr. Strangelove is the only movie of his I've seen that I cared for at all.

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    BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    Bubby wrote: »
    In my view, the ending of No Country is the whole point of the movie, and the "anticlimactic" nature is 100% necessary, important, and great. It's what elevates the movie from "excellent thriller" to "thoughtful meditation on the world's slow and inevitable entropic decline," for me.

    Which mightn't be what some folks want from their movies, but ain't every movie gotta be for everybody

    A lot of the best movies are fairly polarizing. Sometimes I feel like I'm in the minority of people who truly love 2001, every time it's mentioned in daily life or online I hear at least one person say "it's boring".

    I don't think 2001 is boring, but I don't like it at all. I likewise despise the vast majority of Kubrick's output, which is a really unpopular attitude amongst my more cinephillic friends.

    I recognize him as objectively skilled, but Dr. Strangelove is the only movie of his I've seen that I cared for at all.

    Love him or hate him, I guess. 2001, FMJ, Barry Lyndon, The Shining, and Paths of Glory are all masterpieces as far as I'm concerned. I also really like Eyes Wide Shut, slow at parts but the masked ball is riveting and by the end it inspires a real conversation.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    I saw The Ring for the first time the other day.

    I'd already read a comic based on the Japanese version years ago, so it had little to surprise me with.

    Still, I was impressed with the pacing and the atmosphere.

    Also
    it's a really great example of taking a "less is more" approach with the big bad, saving it only for the very end.

    The first death does a great job of building suspense and startling you without actually showing real details on how she died or what got her.

    And we don't see what actually happened to her until it happens again to the love interest at the very end of the film. And only one person died in between, and that wasn't even the doing of the ghost. Definitely a case of patience paying off.

    Also I love how they learn that even solving the ghost's murder doesn't actually fix anything. Dude ends up dead just the same, nothing whatsoever has changed.

    And now they end up having to pass the curse onto someone else just to save the boy.

    Fun fact: In the Japanese version of the story (at least in the manga), the final scene has her calling up her father and telling him she has something she needs him to watch.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Ok, so I just discovered that Predestination is an Australian film and doesn't really have much in the way of an international release yet? Or something like that. So, this is kinda a post that's gonna sell it a little.

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    Basically, the way it was sold to me was that it's a movie about time travel cops. "Temporal agents". Which is true.

    But the thing about it, is that if you watch the trailer, you're probably going to get the wrong sort of idea about it. Because it's an intensely character-driven drama, about people's life stories, where you wouldn't even know it's got time travel until partway through. It's got an interesting idea that it's just allowed to go and run with.

    It's really compelling, (I think at least) it's pretty smart and it's really, really well acted. One of the actors, Sarah Snook, is absolutely goddam fantastic.

    I dunno if and when it's coming out, but I would definitely recommend it.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    One of my friends saw it in Thursday, his brother described him afterwards as, "Not shutting up about it"

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    I really liked eyes wide shut and was surprised by it's very negative reputation, at least that's what had trickled down to me.

    There's an excellent analysis of it online somewhere that made me realllly want to revisit it again.

    I'll watch anything Kubrick though, it's like the medium was made just for that guy

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    Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    Goatmon wrote: »
    I saw The Ring for the first time the other day.

    I'd already read a comic based on the Japanese version years ago, so it had little to surprise me with.

    Still, I was impressed with the pacing and the atmosphere.

    Also
    it's a really great example of taking a "less is more" approach with the big bad, saving it only for the very end.

    The first death does a great job of building suspense and startling you without actually showing real details on how she died or what got her.

    And we don't see what actually happened to her until it happens again to the love interest at the very end of the film. And only one person died in between, and that wasn't even the doing of the ghost. Definitely a case of patience paying off.

    Also I love how they learn that even solving the ghost's murder doesn't actually fix anything. Dude ends up dead just the same, nothing whatsoever has changed.

    And now they end up having to pass the curse onto someone else just to save the boy.

    Fun fact: In the Japanese version of the story (at least in the manga), the final scene has her calling up her father and telling him she has something she needs him to watch.

    Agree with everything you say about pacing and atmosphere. In fact, The Ring basically ruined most other horror films for me.

    Don't show me the scary monster/villain too early or too many times! Don't try to write more HORROR checks than your SUSPENSE account can actually cash!

    I understand doing it as well as The Ring or Alien isn't easy, and I get that a lot of people enjoy slasher flicks with spring-loaded cats and gruesome death every 5-10 minutes, but I'm constantly disappointed at how few films even come close to the level of tension that's possible.

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    Blake TBlake T Do you have enemies then? Good. That means you’ve stood up for something, sometime in your life.Registered User regular
    Have you guys seen Ju-on?

    That reveal got me.

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    I never saw Ju-on, but I enjoyed The Grudge 1 and 2 in theaters.

    That was 10 and 8 years ago, though, and I probably wouldn't like them very much anymore. :P

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Oh also, one detail about The Ring I really liked
    When she shows the tape to her ex, the phone rings afterwards and she straight-up refuses to answer it.

    Then we see a message on her machine, and she just erases it.

    It's subtle, but it takes a detail that the audience already understands and does something else with it to help add suspense without bothering to revisit something that we've already gone over. It's clever.

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    Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    I liked The Grudge, never saw the sequel. It was no The Ring, but it went for a similar feel and I enjoyed it much more than the majority other horror flicks I've seen in the last 15 years.

    Never even heard of Ju-on, gonna go do some googling

    EDIT: Oh, derp, it's the original series The Grudge is based on, huh

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Yes, it's basically Ringu to the Grudge.

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    Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    Since we're on the topic already and I'm sure I've missed a bunch: what other horror flicks should I seek out if I want that kind of patient suspense-building? Assume I know of none of them.

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    FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    Two that freaked the fuck outta me are 'Don't Look Now', which is a 70's horror by nic roeg starring julie christie and donald sutherlands hair. If you decide to give it a shot, don't look anything up about it, cos there spoilers all over the place.

    and 'the cure' which is a japanese horror from the 90's that's pretty much defines 'patient suspense-building', the trailer makes it look much more violent and jump scary than it is, which is pretty much not at all.

    Both are excellent movies

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    Also, one more thing I want to add just to gush a little bit more on The Ring, and also The Grudge
    What both of the franchises do right, at least at first, is make it very clear that there really is no stopping the ghost.

    In The Ring they spend the whole first film trying to solve the mystery, which ends up accomplishing jack shit, and can do little to nothing to stop this nightmare from continuing.

    That sense of foreboding helplessness really adds a lasting effect to the film that lasts after the fact.

    Grudge relies a lot more on jump scares, but still drives home that the bad guy can't be stopped, in both the first and second film. I dunno about othe third or whatever other sequels they made, I stopped after 2.

    But in The Ring 2 the lady ends up straight-up entering the videotape and sealing Samara in the well? That's just silly. And it gives the idea that she can be fought. Which is a terrible idea. That's basically doing the exact opposite of what the first film does, and that's a big reason why the sequel was so terrible.

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    LalaboxLalabox Registered User regular
    Blake T wrote: »
    One of my friends saw it in Thursday, his brother described him afterwards as, "Not shutting up about it"

    I can understand that.

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    Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    Goatmon, just assume I'm agreeing with everything you're putting in spoilers, you're spot on. Although I never saw The Grudge 2 or The Ring 2, since their trailers both made them seem like they were getting away from the original stories they were based on and I didn't want to bother with them if they were American cash-ins on American retellings of original great stories.

    FAQ I'm gonna look into those!

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    From what I remember Grudge 2 wasn't really stylistically different from the original.

    It's just a bit more violent and intense than the first one.

    Also the story bounces between three different timelines and can be really confusing.

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    PoorochondriacPoorochondriac Ah, man Ah, jeezRegistered User regular
    Captain K wrote: »
    Since we're on the topic already and I'm sure I've missed a bunch: what other horror flicks should I seek out if I want that kind of patient suspense-building? Assume I know of none of them.

    The House of the Devil is a really interesting, very tense movie. Filmed in 2009, but in a firmly 80s style that heightens the suspense instead of feeling like a cheap nostalgia ploy. It's a story that needed to play out before the information age, where you could be well and truly isolated.

    The movie is tense as hell, remarkably well-acted (Tom Noonan in particular crushes it), and managed to genuinely shock me once or twice. I find most horror movies to be terminally predictable, so that was certainly noteworthy.

    As with most slow-burn horror, I'd advise against reading too much about it. I think I'll give it another watch one of these days, actually. It really stuck with me.

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    Captain KCaptain K Registered User regular
    Just on Netflix streaming I've already got Don't Look Now, The House of the Devil, Ju-On and Ju-On 2 ready to go. Now I just need it to be a dark night with the lights off!

    Thanks for the recommendations so far!

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    GoatmonGoatmon Companion of Kess Registered User regular
    I haven't seen Ju-On, but I guess I may as well give it a glance.

    Cheers!

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