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  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    edited September 2014
    I watched someone stream this on twitch a little today.

    It seems like some things are overhauled and really well designed and then other things are just staggeringly, confusingly awful. I'm really not a fan of the new neighborhood map. The public lots I saw looked really patchwork; nothing really flowed well, it felt less like a neighborhood and more like they had just dumped a bunch of pre-fab stuff onto a large lot. Loading between lots seemed to take forEEEEEEver. I wonder if that has to do with the girl streaming simultaneously?

    In the other hand, conversations looked INCREDIBLY deep compared to previous iterations, and had all kinda of things going on, mini goals based on the sort of conversation, clever descriptors given you an idea of what conversation you were having, and really great interaction with your goals/ desires. The reward store was full to bursting with useful things to buy with your goal/desire points.

    I really dunno how to feel about this game, I think I need to wait until there's an expansion bundle before I hop in.

    sarukun on
  • Lavender GoomsLavender Gooms Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Oh my god.

    So one of the guys she brought home wandered around the house a bit after she went to sleep. Taking the trash bag out to the garbage can first, of course, then coming back in and spending some time on the weighlifting equipment she owns.

    Then I guess he had a heart attack or something because he keeled over and the grim reaper appeared.

    I was just going to let everyone stay asleep and watch it happen, but I clicked on mr. reaper to see if there were any interactions. One came up "plead for his life", so I woke her up to give that a try. Only, after she woke up the effects of her moodlets came back and she became flirty again. A new option came up, "seduce into sparing him".

    It didn't work, so she just went back to sleep.

    After he killed the guy though, it looked like I could just do normal interactions with him. So naturally I have her put on the charm. Didn't get very far before he had to go and vanished in a puff of smoke. She did ask if he was single though, to which he replied that the forces of evil don't have time for romance.

    Lavender Gooms on
  • Sir PlatypusSir Platypus Registered User regular
    That is really making me wish I was still into the Sims.

    Played the shit out of 1 and nearly all of the expansions (fond middle school memories of trading them around to get everything), enjoyed 2 a good bit but dropped out fairly early, and had just a few hours with 3. I just don't think I'd be able to get into a new one. Maybe after a year or 2 when it is cheaper and includes an expansion or something.

  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    So my impressions are mostly like other people in this thread - vastly improved in some ways, really lacking in others. I can see them adding a lot through DLC/expansions, though.

    Neighborhood sizes are a bit disappointing, but I kind of like the grouping together of various houses, and the fact that it doesn't seem to have to load community lots. Plus collecting stuff is back, which I always kinda liked for some weird reason!

    The new house tools are super slick, and I managed to make a house that looked kind of okay using the room tool. There doesn't seem to be an autoroof tool though, which is strange!

    Loading seems WAY better than Sims 3, but I was playing 3 with every expansion installed so that kind of slowdown is inevitable. Still, the game runs great and looks nice!

    Multi-tasking is an amazing feature that I'm surprised it took this long to put in. Sims can actually use their phones when sitting down!

    But yeah, it is missing quite a bit of extra stuff and is fairly basic right now.

    Regardless, any complaints I have are negated by the fact that I can have Kanye, Ludacris, Jay-Z, Beyonce, Kim Kardashian, and Snoop Dogg living in the same house.

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    So, I've run into this bug a few times now and thought I'd pass the fix along. If you get the bug where the time hotkeys stop working (which is maddening), just hit enter and they'll start working again.

    Also, my sim is apparently terrible at chess. I need to win 2 games to get promoted and have only won once over the course of about 6 hours.

    Also also, my sim made spaghetti for breakfast. Whaaaaaaaaat?

    BionicPenguin on
  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    Reading through this thread, I think you guys have helped me come to the conclusion that I'll check this out. I haven't felt like buying a new game in a really long time, and the last Sims I played was Sims 2...so I think it's been long enough where I won't really recognize some of the removed features (though no trash compactor or dishwasher? Those were sad for me, and really weird removals...I feel it's a reeeeeally strong case for that coming to DLC in the future, since I'd imagine there are zero technical reasons that could not have been included, and they're so obviously desirable by players that I can see those objects being used as a cash-grab). While I think I'll miss some of the features, I'm interested enough to test it out for myself.

    The create-a-sim being improved, the interactions improved, the multitasking, the cool new building tools (I looove building things) seem like they'd be good fits for me. Off to buyin' I go!

  • Lavender GoomsLavender Gooms Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    Ugh, the programmer sister keeps getting a wish to buy a microscope when she's in a focused state. That seems reasonable, until I look at the options and there is only one microscope available. It's not a tiny elementary school optical microscope either, oh no. It's a giant, multi-thousand-dollar room-sized electron monstrosity. I'm definitely seeing a lot of gaps in item availability coverage. Lots of categories have half the things locked off through career or skill rewards.

    I'm still really enjoying it and none of the limitations i'm running into are doing anything other than giving me a couple seconds of annoyance, but I can see why people would think they will be getting a reduced package.

    After a little while and a few expansions/dlc, a bundled version would be a pretty great package to pick up I think.

  • sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    I can't be too mad about that, I guess, Civilization's latest offering was 75% of a game until the expansions.

    It was a little less obvious in Civ's case, I think, but they also hadn't just released the glorious Civ 2 for free to tide me over until the first expansion, so I guess it's a tie. :P

  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    You know you're playing the Sims when:

    5 minutes later, it's 4am


    O_O

  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    no that's how you know it's 3:55 am

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    so, some fun facts about the Sims

    Sims 3 made a very specific effort to track your family tree, not just your direct lineage but your lineage by marriage and so on. So, you'd have not just like, your husband and your son, but you could also like, have a half-brother or a stepsister.

    And the game would keep track of your Sims familial relationships, so if they were in some way family to each other they couldn't romance each other. No stepfathers movin' on their stepdaughters, no half-siblings that never met before accidentally getting married, etc. The game just wouldn't let you initiate romance options in any way between two Sims that were in some way related, by blood or marriage.

    Sims 4... doesn't appear to put as much effort into tracking those relationships. My current Sim married a woman in town who is an Adult with two Young Adult daughters (I actually didn't realize this when I got him to marry her, he's actually a Young Adult himself but age is much trickier to gauge in Sims 4 and I didn't like, try to find out more about her home life beyond the fact that she was single). So now he's in the awkward position of having two stepdaughters that are like, his age and also apparently they have uh... romance... options.

    So.

    Yeah.

  • LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    I don't doubt that there are people who are very, very pleased with that particular oversight

    Lockout on
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  • Lavender GoomsLavender Gooms Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    That sounds more like an oversight to me than something that would have been intended, but yeah it's kind of an egregious one.

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Speaking of romance options, there seem to be some sims that don't have them. I'll meet a sim for the first time (no family to speak of) and the option just isn't there.

  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    Speaking of romance options, there seem to be some sims that don't have them. I'll meet a sim for the first time (no family to speak of) and the option just isn't there.

    they might be a teenager

    you dirty

    dirty old man

  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    When the hell did Woody Allen consult on Sims 4

  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    Maybe there's no option because they're incompatible. Are all Sims bisexual? Does the game do anything there or is it left up to the players?

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    Speaking of romance options, there seem to be some sims that don't have them. I'll meet a sim for the first time (no family to speak of) and the option just isn't there.

    they might be a teenager

    you dirty

    dirty old man

    D:

    I hadn't even thought of that and now it occurs to me that I haven't really noticed any teenagers. Do they just look really similar to adults or what? Is Chris Hansen keeping tabs on me?

  • chromdomchromdom Who? Where?Registered User regular
    To be fair, Chris Hansen has always been keeping tabs on you.

    Always.

  • Lord_AsmodeusLord_Asmodeus goeticSobriquet: Here is your magical cryptic riddle-tumour: I AM A TIME MACHINERegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    so, some fun facts about the Sims

    Sims 3 made a very specific effort to track your family tree, not just your direct lineage but your lineage by marriage and so on. So, you'd have not just like, your husband and your son, but you could also like, have a half-brother or a stepsister.

    And the game would keep track of your Sims familial relationships, so if they were in some way family to each other they couldn't romance each other. No stepfathers movin' on their stepdaughters, no half-siblings that never met before accidentally getting married, etc. The game just wouldn't let you initiate romance options in any way between two Sims that were in some way related, by blood or marriage.

    Sims 4... doesn't appear to put as much effort into tracking those relationships. My current Sim married a woman in town who is an Adult with two Young Adult daughters (I actually didn't realize this when I got him to marry her, he's actually a Young Adult himself but age is much trickier to gauge in Sims 4 and I didn't like, try to find out more about her home life beyond the fact that she was single). So now he's in the awkward position of having two stepdaughters that are like, his age and also apparently they have uh... romance... options.

    So.

    Yeah.

    I sort of prefer they not totally restrict that stuff honestly. I can make my Sims a deathtrap house and cackle as they die, but my Sim isn't allowed to date their third cousin on their in-law's side?

    Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if Labor had not first existed. Labor is superior to capital, and deserves much the higher consideration. - Lincoln
  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    Yeah, the teenagers are hard to discern from the adults. My sim married a chick and she moved in with her teenage son and he's basically adult sized, just has the job "student-high school"

  • marty_0001marty_0001 I am a file and you put documents in meRegistered User regular
    That is really making me wish I was still into the Sims.

    Played the shit out of 1 and nearly all of the expansions (fond middle school memories of trading them around to get everything), enjoyed 2 a good bit but dropped out fairly early, and had just a few hours with 3. I just don't think I'd be able to get into a new one. Maybe after a year or 2 when it is cheaper and includes an expansion or something.

    This was exactly my experience. Played the first one to death, played a good amount of 2, and played about zero of 3 because the loading screens were just awful for a game that was years older than my PC.

    If 4 is slimmed down to the point that it's a nice refresh of 1 or 2 then I'll probably get it. But yeah, not until a sale.

  • LockoutLockout I am still searching Registered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    so, some fun facts about the Sims

    Sims 3 made a very specific effort to track your family tree, not just your direct lineage but your lineage by marriage and so on. So, you'd have not just like, your husband and your son, but you could also like, have a half-brother or a stepsister.

    And the game would keep track of your Sims familial relationships, so if they were in some way family to each other they couldn't romance each other. No stepfathers movin' on their stepdaughters, no half-siblings that never met before accidentally getting married, etc. The game just wouldn't let you initiate romance options in any way between two Sims that were in some way related, by blood or marriage.

    Sims 4... doesn't appear to put as much effort into tracking those relationships. My current Sim married a woman in town who is an Adult with two Young Adult daughters (I actually didn't realize this when I got him to marry her, he's actually a Young Adult himself but age is much trickier to gauge in Sims 4 and I didn't like, try to find out more about her home life beyond the fact that she was single). So now he's in the awkward position of having two stepdaughters that are like, his age and also apparently they have uh... romance... options.

    So.

    Yeah.

    I sort of prefer they not totally restrict that stuff honestly. I can make my Sims a deathtrap house and cackle as they die, but my Sim isn't allowed to date their third cousin on their in-law's side?

    I don't know if even The Sims 3 kept track of third cousins and all that

    either way, there's a difference between distant nonblood relatives and stepromance

    stepfather-stepdaughter in particular has a power dynamic going on that makes a lot of people uncomfortable (for good reason)

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    But, you know, in the Sims 3 it was totally okay for my starting Sim's biological son from his first marriage to a human woman to romance the synthetic human clone stepdaughter from the starting Sim's second marriage to a robot woman he created. The clone is of the robot, not the starting Sim, just to clarify, although somehow due to that cloning process has the organic body of a human and the synthetic mind of a robot. She isn't, technically, related to her clone-mother-robot who was created with technology obtained from the future, and thus isn't considered the stepdaughter of the starting Sim or a stepsister to his biological son.

    Because yeah, the Sims 3 got weird, yo

  • Desert LeviathanDesert Leviathan Registered User regular
    edited September 2014
    Pony wrote: »
    so, some fun facts about the Sims

    Sims 3 made a very specific effort to track your family tree, not just your direct lineage but your lineage by marriage and so on. So, you'd have not just like, your husband and your son, but you could also like, have a half-brother or a stepsister.

    And the game would keep track of your Sims familial relationships, so if they were in some way family to each other they couldn't romance each other. No stepfathers movin' on their stepdaughters, no half-siblings that never met before accidentally getting married, etc. The game just wouldn't let you initiate romance options in any way between two Sims that were in some way related, by blood or marriage.

    Sims 4... doesn't appear to put as much effort into tracking those relationships. My current Sim married a woman in town who is an Adult with two Young Adult daughters (I actually didn't realize this when I got him to marry her, he's actually a Young Adult himself but age is much trickier to gauge in Sims 4 and I didn't like, try to find out more about her home life beyond the fact that she was single). So now he's in the awkward position of having two stepdaughters that are like, his age and also apparently they have uh... romance... options.

    So.

    Yeah.

    I think I have that DVD!

    Err. Anyway. People seem to be having a good enough time with this that I've been inspired to create my own bizarre social experiments and murder puzzles. Downloading now!

    Desert Leviathan on
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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    i had no idea this was coming out so soon. EA sucks at marketing or something

    this is a discord of mostly PA people interested in fighting games: https://discord.gg/DZWa97d5rz

    we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
  • BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    So I picked this up over the weekend after watching a few YouTubes and Giant Bomb's Quick Look.

    I was ready with torches and pitchforks, but I actually am really enjoying it.

    I made Sim versions of myself and my wife and it's been a lot of fun

    I haven't told my wife I bought the game yet, though. She's always been a Sims fanatic. I haven't played it since Sims 2.

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  • PonyPony Registered User regular
    so, features and items missing aside

    Sims 4 is a 100% across the board gameplay improvement, for sure

    like, in terms of interacting with the Sims, social stuff, going up levels in careers, how skills work, etc.

    Basically what Sims 4 needs is more content, big time

    the foundation is rock solid, it's definitely a game I would pay for DLC for

    hopefully the go the piece-meal DLC route instead of the big expansion pack routes for like $60

  • NightDragonNightDragon 6th Grade Username Registered User regular
    @Pony - agreed! Coming from Sims 2, I've seen a LOT of really nice gameplay improvements...but after a few days of playing I can absolutely see how it needs more content. I've never actually bought DLC for a game, (and generally I only get expansions in bundles after they've been out for a year...I am a late adapter :) ), but I can see myself happily getting some for this game.

    Speaking of improvements, I build my first house yesterday, and I've loved how doing things like moving a wall will automatically shift all placed objects along the wall, too...rather than saying "nope you can't move the wall, there are objects blocking it!" or removing all the objects to your inventory. I thought that was super nice. Roof options are cool, Designer button to quickly switch color options is also really nice....and I generally like the little inserts of humor that I've seen in previous games (like the option, if you're on the Computer Whiz track, to "troll teh forums" if you're on a computer).

    I've noticed a handful of bugs, which I guess is to be expected when you get a game this early after release:

    - Using a scrollwheel on my mouse to zoom in and out will randomly switch over to "one increment = zoom ALL the way out to neighborhood level, or ALL the way in to only a few feet from your Sim". When that happens, it makes the game pretty unplayable, so I've had to resort to hitting the "x" and "z" keys to perform the same functions....or if I move to another lot, that seems to fix it.

    - Some objects are placeable where they shouldn't be (an outdoor ground light can be placed where a stair banister is)...and some objects cannot be placed where it should be okay to place them (a plant on a desk cannot be moved against the wall, even though the plant and desk footprints align perfectly.....or you can't place something against the wall if there is a picture hanging on the wall).

    - Sometimes the options "Ask to Leave" show up twice, right next to eachother.

    - The "dappled grey" color option on one of the eyebrow shapes the eyebrow to another shape

    - General Sim confusion [starting and stopping tasks, pulling a U-turn, placing a dish down, picking it up, putting it down again] about changing to a new task sometimes ("stop eating", "clean up dish")

    - Sim says they are blocked from being able to dig up a rock that is close to the footprint of another property, even though there is more than enough space to do so

    - etc.

    Overall, pretty minor things. The zoom bug is suuuuuper annoying, but I'm glad there's a workaround. Hopefully that one gets fixed soon. Looks like a few of these have already been reported on their forums, so woot!

  • Lavender GoomsLavender Gooms Tiny Bat Registered User regular
    So a sim with an artistic personality and that trait that makes crafted items sell for more money basically never needs to get a job ever. After just a few days she was making paintings that sold for 1-2k each, with the occasional masterpiece going for up to 5k. A job would actually end up being a pay cut because she'd have less time to paint.

    I tried my hand at making a house from scratch, as well. I'm pretty terrible at building in these kinds of games but it was still incredibly easy. Normally I just end up with a series of boring rectangular rooms after an hour of fiddling but with this I had a full house after just a few minutes and it didn't even look terrible. They did a pretty great job making all the creative parts of the game as accessible as possible.

  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Just gonna go ahead and leave this here

    http://ianroach.imgur.com/

  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Oh my goodness

    http://atlanticus.tumblr.com/ PSN: Atlanticus 3DS: 1590-4692-3954 Steam: Artreus
  • Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    The album links are all broken.

  • ArtreusArtreus I'm a wizard And that looks fucked upRegistered User regular
    Weird, they were all working a few minutes ago

    http://atlanticus.tumblr.com/ PSN: Atlanticus 3DS: 1590-4692-3954 Steam: Artreus
  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Article I originally saw it on, since the albums appear broken. Only has pictures of Friends, though.

    http://blog.dashburst.com/pic/friends-recreated-on-sims/

  • KochikensKochikens Registered User regular
    the sex and the city one is insane

  • TurkeyTurkey So, Usoop. TampaRegistered User regular
    I know this thread is real old, but Sims 4 just removed gender restrictions on clothes.

  • MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Whoa, that's pretty awesome!

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    As much crap as people give EA, taking the time to do this is very impressive when they could have easily just had those programmers shoving out The Sims 4: Fancy Bathroom Stuff. It sounds like it was a ton of work and they brought in folks to make sure it was done respectfully for all involved. The article below has a bit more info but it was apparently a year being worked on because of how ingrained gender was to clothing in the game.

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/2/11838356/sims-4-update-gender-hairstyles-voice-clothing-options

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