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scheduling at work
DyasAlure
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Part of this is I just want to vent, and feel PA folks are great. The other part I want to ask people about.
So, I was a full time employee, and have a 9 year hire date. I went part time to go back to college and finish my degree. They said ok. I have been telling them times I am available and they have been kind of working with it. So, my wife is pregnant now and we are scheduling all those appointments for Monday's so it is easy for my work to know what days I'm available. I don't want a lot of hours, in fact I only want 16-24 (2-3 8 hour shifts). This doesn't seem like a big issue, as I don't get medical, and the only thing they have to pay is hours I actually work. I received an e-mail. Here are some things I can quote.
As I'm part time, they will just change my schedule. Sometimes less than 7 days prior to when I work. Sometimes the day of, I will come in, and because of someone else not showing up, I get moved around and some other people get better posts (No post is really bad, but some are nicer than other. So we rotate around.)
I don't have proof, but I think that is directed at me, because they told me I'm unreasonable asking for Monday's off. I think I can see if I wanted 40 hours a week, but I am only asking for 2 shifts. That doesn't seem to hard to me. They always have holes to fill as you can see. So what do people think? I would love to get a new job, but that isn't working so well.
Am I unreasonable? I don't see how asking to have a life is hard. The big thing, is this company bought out the original company. They bought my start date as part of the deal. With the original company, you had a set schedule. Non of this happened. So it isn't like I got a job at a company knowing they do this.
Lastly, I have also come in on days when I'm not scheduled. I have come in early, and stayed late. Yet a week later I'm not doing my part if I had plans, or it is last minute. They wanted me to cancel my hotel to stay late when I had it planed weeks in advanced. I don't think that is reasonable to ask. They didn't force me, but how can you even ask that?
Oh, and last, there are at least 3 other people they accommodate with limited postings, and seem to have no issue with.
So, I was a full time employee, and have a 9 year hire date. I went part time to go back to college and finish my degree. They said ok. I have been telling them times I am available and they have been kind of working with it. So, my wife is pregnant now and we are scheduling all those appointments for Monday's so it is easy for my work to know what days I'm available. I don't want a lot of hours, in fact I only want 16-24 (2-3 8 hour shifts). This doesn't seem like a big issue, as I don't get medical, and the only thing they have to pay is hours I actually work. I received an e-mail. Here are some things I can quote.
Many of you are frustrated by last minute schedule changes; however, these changes are a result of employees who unexpectedly call-off and the need to fill the their vacancies. Unfortunately no one can predict unexpected events.
As I'm part time, they will just change my schedule. Sometimes less than 7 days prior to when I work. Sometimes the day of, I will come in, and because of someone else not showing up, I get moved around and some other people get better posts (No post is really bad, but some are nicer than other. So we rotate around.)
The [can't use position tiles, but people] makes a tremendous effort in filling vacancies; however, a few employees either do not respond to telephone calls or are inflexible with their personal schedules. {A few employees have been unnecessarily uncooperative and condescending to their coworkers who are attempting to fill a vacancy.}
I don't have proof, but I think that is directed at me, because they told me I'm unreasonable asking for Monday's off. I think I can see if I wanted 40 hours a week, but I am only asking for 2 shifts. That doesn't seem to hard to me. They always have holes to fill as you can see. So what do people think? I would love to get a new job, but that isn't working so well.
Am I unreasonable? I don't see how asking to have a life is hard. The big thing, is this company bought out the original company. They bought my start date as part of the deal. With the original company, you had a set schedule. Non of this happened. So it isn't like I got a job at a company knowing they do this.
Lastly, I have also come in on days when I'm not scheduled. I have come in early, and stayed late. Yet a week later I'm not doing my part if I had plans, or it is last minute. They wanted me to cancel my hotel to stay late when I had it planed weeks in advanced. I don't think that is reasonable to ask. They didn't force me, but how can you even ask that?
Oh, and last, there are at least 3 other people they accommodate with limited postings, and seem to have no issue with.
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They have still kept me on the schedule, I'm just frustrated. I guess I feel like it is telling me I'm a bad person over and over and abusive to me. If you don't want what I have to offer, you have the option to fire me. Being passive agresive like this is just demoralizing.
We have training after each shift (security work). One training was directed at me and specifics about me wanting Monday's off. That too feels demoralizing that they are pointing at me and saying you can't do that. Even though they honored the request.
On this though, I feel maybe companies shouldn't be able to do things like this? I don't know, we are all humans, I just don't understand people who hurt others just for minimal gain.
My assumption here is that your schooling is not something your employer is requiring you to do for your job. So I think its important for you to understand that you are not doing them a favor by working there. They are in fact doing you a favor by accommodating your scheduling needs when ever possible.
you say that "you don't want a lot of hours", but the question is really do they need you for "not a lot of hours"? Unless you have a set schedule that says you will work on X days for X hours doing a set of specific tasks, that you can fit your outside life around. Then it is not unreasonable for them to expect you to work if they need you.
Additionally, you should expect to get the least favorable treatment for scheduling and shifts compared to any of your coworkers that have committed to more hours and whose schedule is easier to work with, like full timers.
The easiest/safest answer is probably not to escalate. So long as they give you the hours you want let them be passive aggressive dicks and just ignore it. Some people are just assholes. I understand that's not easy to do and takes a toll on you.
You could be passive aggressive back by saying in a sincere voice "I'm sorry my wife is pregnant" when they bring it up around other employees. Done right it should make the person feel like an asshole. This will make you feel better but will be very unlikely to lead to a positive outcome. It will probably escalate the situation.
Given that this is likely of limited duration (less than 9 months I would hope) I would be inclined to just tough it out.
Oh, and I would try and make damn sure the unscheduled call outs weren't me. Obviously your wife comes first but it would tend to push more questionable ones towards showing up.
Though fuck canceling plans like hotels that would cost you money. If showing up to work would net me negative money I will not be there. An employer who doesn't understand this is batshit insane.
I understand your point, and somewhat agree. I will say, where I work, for some odd reason, they are always short staffed. I don't know if they make more money by running so close to not having staff or what, but it does feel like they can't afford to loose people. But yes, I understand that.
Yeah, I think the worst is the toll. I don't want to escalate, but it gets old.
Thanks for input though. And while I'm sure someone could say something, I'm going to figure most of you aren't trying to be a dick.
In my experience Mondays are days when lots of shit needs to be taken care of. So maybe making it another day would be more tolerable for management to deal with.
You might be making their job slightly harder by only taking a couple of shifts, but guess what, doing the schedule is THEIR JOB. If the company is short staffed, that is their problem. I know that they try to make it your problem by harassing people into picking up shifts, but if you can't work, you can't work.
If you really want to get another job, then apply, but just know that most employers do not want to hire part-time employees, so finding one that wants you and will work with you is the trick. Until then, just work what you can work and make every effort to be a model employee in every other aspect. Yes, Washington is an at will state and they can fire you anytime, HOWEVER, you could then be eligible for unemployment.
I think they get the Monday thing, as for being more busy, it is security no day is busier, less than any other. Well, unless there is an incident, but you can't plan for that.
I think the harrasing is what bugs me the most. There are lots of people who answer the phone. There are lots of people who take up shifts when needed. But never is that mentioned as a plus, and always is it mentioned as a negative.
As for another job, yeah I feel that people don't want me. I guess I got spoiled when I started my degree years ago. I found a small local company that did embroidery. I had a key to the shop, and would just call and ask for work. He would say, ok I have this. I will have the product and the computer out for you. I would just stop by in the evening, finish the run and lock up. This I find is not the norm by any means.
And last, they seem opposed to hiring more people? I never understand. So I guess end result, it sucks. Some people just don't know how to not be a dick. Likely cause so far other than the words, I have been able to continue school and still have a job, I should just stick it out find a way to vent/relieve stress of stupidity.
The reason they are opposed to more people is because the job gets done with who they have now. Adding a new employee will only take away from their revenue and make the business less profitable. It's a shitty aspect of capitalism for everyone except for the few that benefit from it, but the ones that benefit have all the power so it won't ever change.