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  • YiliasYilias Registered User regular
    Relatedly, I am replacing Soulfire with PO in Zoo and Darkbomb in Handlock.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat we gon' rock up it Registered User regular
    Wooh! Just managed to beat it before my laptop's battery ran out. Was actually pretty fun to retry. BoK on an Ooze while you have a Sword of Justice out is pretty good.

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Korror wrote: »
    Delduwath wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    I have this strange trepidation because of things like, it looks like enrage warrior may be better and for some reason I feel it's a threat to control warrior which I really like. as though zoo and handlock haven't been equally strong decks for months! I am just scared of change, I need it to happen like a band aid
    There is no more control warrior.

    There is no more enrage warrior.

    There is no zoo.

    No handlock.

    There is no meta.

    The meta has been destroyed; it exists no more.

    Don't stress about it. Embrace portal mage. Embrace techpriest. Embrace wisplock. Embrace Shamloc Murman. Embrace ogrogue. Embrace your new Hearthworld.

    While I approve of the spirit behind this post, good decks didn't suddenly become bad because of the new expansion. Zoo is still good, handlock is still a thing, there will still be argo, midrange and control decks. You might even have more success than usual with your standard deck as people will be experimenting with the new cards and it will take time to find out which new cards are good and which are not so good.

    In MTG when a new set comes out and everyone is uncertain about the meta, the first few tournaments are usually won by boring red argo decks (the equivalent of zoo or face hunter). If everyone else is playing around with the new cards, you can take advantage of this by playing simple aggressive decks that capitalize on any mistakes made by your opponent.

    Oh, I know. I just wanted to role-play Doomsayer a little bit.

    But really I just wanted to come up with some bogus deck archetype names.

    The Escape Goat
  • AlphagaiaAlphagaia Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    Odd, after restarting the bug has vanished, although a Flare is showing up in my Hunter deck. It too was fixed after another restart.

    While it seems like restarting will solve the problem, it might be worth looking into to avoid problems in the future.

    I had sorta the same thing once. If you disenchant all copies of a card that's been altered by Blizzard, before you edit a deck that runs it, the game somehow becomes confused and insists the card is still in your decklist. I was not able to save it untill I removed the deck and restarted my game.

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  • Bobkins FlymoBobkins Flymo Perpetually Tired Registered User, Moderator mod
    Have they explained how arena rewards will work with GvG? Is it just a random chance at packs of either set?

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  • CreamstoutCreamstout What you think I program for, to push a fuckin' quad-core? Registered User regular
    I think the Explosive Sheep will see play in a Hunter Control deck. It works great with Feign Death giving a 2 card 4 cost flame strike. Feign Death is going to put Hunter on the map finally...

  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Bobkins, once GvG goes live, all arena pack rewards will be GvG packs.

    MMMig
  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Sheep will see play in all control decks.

    Except Paladin, because hello useless hero power if you want to play unstable ghoul or exploding sheep. New paladin cards suck too, forever doomed to be the worst class.

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  • lazegamerlazegamer Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    azith28 wrote: »

    Wait, i dont see anything about avenge, why do you have to redo the challenge?

    Iunno, that's why I was confused. I figured they might have tweaked the challenge to be less bad or something, but the notes don't mention it.

    Two tries later I've managed to build really good boards twice and use oozes effectively but get totally screwed by Twisting Nether.

    I dunno either. The Solo Adventures crackles blue, but I don't see anything in it that's new.

    Maybe it glows blue because they altered the encounter with Rivendare?
    Baron Rivendare in the Naxxramas Adventure has fixed his heater and will no longer cast Frostbolt on himself.

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  • CreamstoutCreamstout What you think I program for, to push a fuckin' quad-core? Registered User regular
    Not all of them suck, Coghammer and Scarlet Purifier are both very good.

  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    Coghammer is kind of bonkers. 2/2 divine shield for 2 is really solid in an Arena context and seems like he'd be OK against zoo.

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Creamstout wrote: »
    I think the Explosive Sheep will see play in a Hunter Control deck. It works great with Feign Death giving a 2 card 4 cost flame strike. Feign Death is going to put Hunter on the map finally...

    This statement genuinely confuses me. Hunter has been probably the single most dominant deck on ladder and one of the top 3 dominant decks in pro tournament play for months. There's a strong case to be made for Hunter being the best deck right now.

    edit: Although if you mean put Control Hunter on the map, then maybe yeah. Sharpshooter will help as well.

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  • KorrorKorror Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Delduwath wrote: »
    Korror wrote: »
    Delduwath wrote: »
    Variable wrote: »
    I have this strange trepidation because of things like, it looks like enrage warrior may be better and for some reason I feel it's a threat to control warrior which I really like. as though zoo and handlock haven't been equally strong decks for months! I am just scared of change, I need it to happen like a band aid
    There is no more control warrior.

    There is no more enrage warrior.

    There is no zoo.

    No handlock.

    There is no meta.

    The meta has been destroyed; it exists no more.

    Don't stress about it. Embrace portal mage. Embrace techpriest. Embrace wisplock. Embrace Shamloc Murman. Embrace ogrogue. Embrace your new Hearthworld.

    While I approve of the spirit behind this post, good decks didn't suddenly become bad because of the new expansion. Zoo is still good, handlock is still a thing, there will still be argo, midrange and control decks. You might even have more success than usual with your standard deck as people will be experimenting with the new cards and it will take time to find out which new cards are good and which are not so good.

    In MTG when a new set comes out and everyone is uncertain about the meta, the first few tournaments are usually won by boring red argo decks (the equivalent of zoo or face hunter). If everyone else is playing around with the new cards, you can take advantage of this by playing simple aggressive decks that capitalize on any mistakes made by your opponent.

    Oh, I know. I just wanted to role-play Doomsayer a little bit.

    But really I just wanted to come up with some bogus deck archetype names.

    With quality names like those, I give you full permission to come up with the names for all future hearthstone decks.

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  • AlphagaiaAlphagaia Registered User regular
    Rami wrote: »
    Sheep will see play in all control decks.

    Except Paladin, because hello useless hero power if you want to play unstable ghoul or exploding sheep. New paladin cards suck too, forever doomed to be the worst class.

    At least that new palladin legendary synergizes with the sheep of boom.

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  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    3clipse wrote: »
    Creamstout wrote: »
    I think the Explosive Sheep will see play in a Hunter Control deck. It works great with Feign Death giving a 2 card 4 cost flame strike. Feign Death is going to put Hunter on the map finally...

    This statement genuinely confuses me. Hunter has been probably the single most dominant deck on ladder and one of the top 3 dominant decks in pro tournament play for months. There's a strong case to be made for Hunter being the best deck right now.

    edit: Although if you mean put Control Hunter on the map, then maybe yeah. Sharpshooter will help as well.

    I think that might have been sarcasm.

  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    38thDoe wrote: »
    3clipse wrote: »
    Creamstout wrote: »
    I think the Explosive Sheep will see play in a Hunter Control deck. It works great with Feign Death giving a 2 card 4 cost flame strike. Feign Death is going to put Hunter on the map finally...

    This statement genuinely confuses me. Hunter has been probably the single most dominant deck on ladder and one of the top 3 dominant decks in pro tournament play for months. There's a strong case to be made for Hunter being the best deck right now.

    edit: Although if you mean put Control Hunter on the map, then maybe yeah. Sharpshooter will help as well.

    I think that might have been sarcasm.

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  • VariableVariable Ted Hitler Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    the feign death line was a joke

    and I really don't think pally got shit cards. the new legendary isn't good but that's fine. muster is bad? I don't think so. and there's some interesting new cards that buff 1/1s

    they were always great at debuffing opponents forever. now they have more ways to make and make use of 1/1s. it seems like there is at least hope, certainly no reason to say they're "forever doomed" in reaction to the new stuff.

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  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Bobkins, once GvG goes live, all arena pack rewards will be GvG packs.

    Hmm, so it'll have to be dust if I want any of the older cards?

  • lazegamerlazegamer Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    Rius wrote: »
    Bobkins, once GvG goes live, all arena pack rewards will be GvG packs.

    Hmm, so it'll have to be dust if I want any of the older cards?

    You'll still have the option to buy 'Classic' packs directly for 100g.

    Surprise.
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  • AlphagaiaAlphagaia Registered User regular
    hippofant wrote: »
    Rius wrote: »
    Bobkins, once GvG goes live, all arena pack rewards will be GvG packs.

    Hmm, so it'll have to be dust if I want any of the older cards?

    If you don't want to use gold to buy the old packs, then yes.

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  • KorrorKorror Registered User regular
    Yilias wrote: »
    Relatedly, I am replacing Soulfire with PO in Zoo and Darkbomb in Handlock.

    Talking about Zoo, I'm thinking about what to replace when GvG comes out.

    Cards that I think have potential:
    Fel Rever
    Annoy-a-Tron
    Mirco Machine
    Spider Tank

    Cards that I probably will be removing from my deck:
    Soulfire
    Haunted Creeper

    Explanations:
    Fell Rever's downside isn't significient for zoo. There's no game critical cards that you care about being discarded and the game should never go to fatigue. The problem is that it completes for a slot with doomguard and I would never cut doomguards from zoo. Does zoo want to play 4 5-drops? I guess we will find out.

    Annoy-a-tron is a marginal inclusion but like argent squire it gets much better when you're playing a bunch of buffing minions. Worth watching if the meta shifts towards argo.

    Mirco Machine is everything I want in a 2 drop. It's cost efficient by the time you get to attack with it and it can control games if left alone. I think this is on the same level as knife juggler which is a staple in zoo.

    Spider tank fills the 3 drop void in zoo. There's not much to play here except for harvest golem and it always felt bad to play a 2/3 for 3.

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    Annoy-o-Tron certainly lives up to it's name.

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  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Whenever someone makes a new thread next page, can you add a list to the OP of people that might want to volinteer bnet names so we can get a pool of players to spectate or play against? My damn guild doesnt play hearthstone. I need someone to be able to curse at, hold a grudge, and rub victories in past the available taunts :)

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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Variable wrote: »
    the feign death line was a joke

    and I really don't think pally got shit cards. the new legendary isn't good but that's fine. muster is bad? I don't think so. and there's some interesting new cards that buff 1/1s

    they were always great at debuffing opponents forever. now they have more ways to make and make use of 1/1s. it seems like there is at least hope, certainly no reason to say they're "forever doomed" in reaction to the new stuff.

    I think Bolvar could be pretty decent in a control Paladin against another control deck if the game goes really late and you hold him for awhile and you can drop him as one of your last cards with giant attack. Sort of situational, though.

    I think Priest maybe got the best new cards, Vol'jin and Shrinkmeister will really help deal with the minions that Priest has the most trouble with.

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2014
    I did a rogue arena last night and kept forgetting about the 50% chance ogres, ha

    That card that gives +4 to weapon/Combo +4 to minion or whatever is sick

    iron Samauri + aggro mech deck will be fun I think

    So It Goes on
  • UrQuanLord88UrQuanLord88 Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    azith28 wrote: »
    Whenever someone makes a new thread next page, can you add a list to the OP of people that might want to volinteer bnet names so we can get a pool of players to spectate or play against? My damn guild doesnt play hearthstone. I need someone to be able to curse at, hold a grudge, and rub victories in past the available taunts :)

    I'm pretty sure Rius' forehead is sore because of all the face palming he did over my arena plays

    Still, it was kinda nice to have someone giving you BM scores. I had a high of 3/10!

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  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Game Designer/Stay-at-home Dad Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    Whenever someone makes a new thread next page, can you add a list to the OP of people that might want to volinteer bnet names so we can get a pool of players to spectate or play against? My damn guild doesnt play hearthstone. I need someone to be able to curse at, hold a grudge, and rub victories in past the available taunts :)

    You want a PA spectator list in the OP? I can do that ezpz.

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  • enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    I did a rogue arena last night and kept forgetting about the 50% chance ogres, ha

    That card that gives +4 to weapon/Combo +4 to minion or whatever is sick

    iron Samauri + aggro mech deck will be fun I think

    Those ogres bypassing taunt was a nasty surprise to me last night. I had read nothing about the expansion before last night, basically.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat we gon' rock up it Registered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    azith28 wrote: »
    Whenever someone makes a new thread next page, can you add a list to the OP of people that might want to volinteer bnet names so we can get a pool of players to spectate or play against? My damn guild doesnt play hearthstone. I need someone to be able to curse at, hold a grudge, and rub victories in past the available taunts :)

    You want a PA spectator list in the OP? I can do that ezpz.

    Taking names now people! PM me your forum name and BNET ID.

    The Sundary Tourney's spreadsheet is probably a good place to start.

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  • RiusRius Registered User regular
    I really can't decide what kind of deck I want to build first. I either want to to Control Hunter, Ogrogue or Mechpriest. Or any of a half dozen other ideas.

  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Mechpriest seems very doable.

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  • LibrarianLibrarian The face of liberal fascism Registered User regular
    Going to add all the Yuropeans from the google doc in the OP, Hyperion#2765

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    Librarian,

    Go read what I said about not arguing with third graders.
  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat we gon' rock up it Registered User regular
    Techpriest is gonna be crazy, I tell ya.

    Anyone who says otherwise is a heretic.

    followed by Abathur going "IRRATIONAL SEQUENCING. GOD I LOVE MEN."
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  • 3clipse3clipse I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Techpriest is gonna be crazy, I tell ya.

    Anyone who says otherwise is a heretic.

    For the Imperium.

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  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat we gon' rock up it Registered User regular
    Just opened my second Cenarius. Well, it's dust for shrinkmeisters, I guess.

    followed by Abathur going "IRRATIONAL SEQUENCING. GOD I LOVE MEN."
  • November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    I am looking forward to Shamurloc, Pirate Rogue, Mechrogue, and Divine Shield Paladin.

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  • HandkorHandkor Registered User regular
    So many good card to dust off my HP UP deck. Everything that increases HP plus inner fire and crazed alchemist. It was always a temperamental deck that was a bit too slow and would often give you a handful of buff and no minions but some of these new cards are fixing some of the issues.

  • DibbyDibby Here come bees! Registered User regular
    Vol'jin's effect when you play him out looks fucking awesome. That's all.

    Also, it is a buff he gains, so you can silence it off, looks like.

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  • DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Dibby wrote: »
    Vol'jin's effect when you play him out looks fucking awesome. That's all.

    Also, it is a buff he gains, so you can silence it off, looks like.
    But it's an ability that affects another card, yes? Swaps health? So, if you silence Vol'jin, what happens to the other card? Does it still have health 2? Are they considered two separate, unlinked buffs, so they need to be handled separately if you want to silence?

  • I needed a gnome to post.I needed a gnome to post. If one day - you have someone that you like Please tell me. Alright?Registered User regular
    of course you need to silence the other card to restore its health, silencing vol'jin and affecting an opposing card would be the silliest thing

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