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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    probably doesn't help receipt checkers if the store policy doesn't mandate that they give everyone a receipt

    i don't think there'd be that level of lack of foresight, though

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    Donkey KongDonkey Kong Putting Nintendo out of business with AI nips Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Sam's IS walmart and receipt checks. But wal-mart does too. I HAVE walked past the wal-mart receipt checker.

    Old Hag SAW me check out. SAW my empty buggy. SAW it be filled with scanned goods by the checker. Fuck you, lady.

    I got a "Sir......Sir...."

    And that's it


    damn right you didn't stop me

    whoa whoa whoa we got a badass over here

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Lady Raven is from NuHams. :<

    Oh brilliant
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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Axel Gietz, director of corporate affairs at Imperial Tobacco, told the BBC: "Targeting one individual industry that happens to be unpopular with an additional tax is totally unwarranted and unjust and just a bad idea.
    "happens to be unpopular" like there isn't a really huge reason why everybody hates the tobacco industry.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
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    Vanguard wrote: »
    One time when I was young my dog ran into the road and got hit by a car and they sued my parents because it cracked their bumper.

    this is horrible

    where did this happen?

    In NH when I was like 12 or 13. We lived in the middle of nowhere and I don't remember if there were any leash laws or not, so our dog was outside. I think my little sister was getting home from school or something and the dog was excited to see her and ran into the road.

    it would have taken a whole lot of forebearance not to just set the dude's car on fire or something

    My dad was exceedingly not pleased. The driver, who I should was a woman, was all pleasant on the spot. Then later on that night she called or left a voicemail about how our dog should be on a leash and she's lucky to be alive and she's reported the damage to the insurance company blah blah blah.

    fucking new hampshire

    it's everything terrible about new england distilled into a little state

    like, take the new england ethos

    peel away the generosity and equanimity and progressiveness and brotherhood

    distill down the self-interest and meanness and cheapness and isolation and suspicion

    new hampshire!

    Hence why I do not live there anymore.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    One time when I was young my dog ran into the road and got hit by a car and they sued my parents because it cracked their bumper.

    this is horrible

    where did this happen?

    In NH when I was like 12 or 13. We lived in the middle of nowhere and I don't remember if there were any leash laws or not, so our dog was outside. I think my little sister was getting home from school or something and the dog was excited to see her and ran into the road.

    it would have taken a whole lot of forebearance not to just set the dude's car on fire or something

    My dad was exceedingly not pleased. The driver, who I should was a woman, was all pleasant on the spot. Then later on that night she called or left a voicemail about how our dog should be on a leash and she's lucky to be alive and she's reported the damage to the insurance company blah blah blah.

    fucking new hampshire

    it's everything terrible about new england distilled into a little state

    like, take the new england ethos

    peel away the generosity and equanimity and progressiveness and brotherhood

    distill down the self-interest and meanness and cheapness and isolation and suspicion

    new hampshire!

    live free or go fuck yourself!

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Costco doesn't have a reasonable belief. Not really. Sometimes that line to check receipts gets backed up worse than the god damned line to get checked out. I've WANTED to blow past everyone before countless times. It's infuriating sometimes.

    You walk out of Costco with nothing in your hands and they won't ask you for your receipt nor will they detain you because there is no reasonable belief.

    You walk out of Costco with a cart of merchandise and refuse to show your receipt. I'd bet money they have reasonable belief/probable cause.

    That sounds dickish to assume I'm a thief without seeing me steal or set off the shoplifting alarms. I won't shop at Costco.

    The thing is emnmnme, if you exit any department store with a cart of merchandise and the security guards don't see you go through a register, they'll probably assume you're a thief.

    Oooh, so now they're uniformed security guards and not receipt checkers. And they saw me not pay for my cartload of stuff. Well then!

    1. uniformed or not makes zero legal difference, they're not police, they're all private citizens 2. he said that they didn't see you pay, not that they saw you not pay.

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    Sam's IS walmart and receipt checks. But wal-mart does too. I HAVE walked past the wal-mart receipt checker.

    Old Hag SAW me check out. SAW my empty buggy. SAW it be filled with scanned goods by the checker. Fuck you, lady.

    I got a "Sir......Sir...."

    And that's it


    damn right you didn't stop me

    whoa whoa whoa we got a badass over here

    whoa dk, let's not be so hasty

    ludious is only a badass if he told the little old lady to "suck it" on his way out

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    emnmnme wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    DoctorArch wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Costco doesn't have a reasonable belief. Not really. Sometimes that line to check receipts gets backed up worse than the god damned line to get checked out. I've WANTED to blow past everyone before countless times. It's infuriating sometimes.

    You walk out of Costco with nothing in your hands and they won't ask you for your receipt nor will they detain you because there is no reasonable belief.

    You walk out of Costco with a cart of merchandise and refuse to show your receipt. I'd bet money they have reasonable belief/probable cause.

    That sounds dickish to assume I'm a thief without seeing me steal or set off the shoplifting alarms. I won't shop at Costco.

    The thing is emnmnme, if you exit any department store with a cart of merchandise and the security guards don't see you go through a register, they'll probably assume you're a thief.

    Oooh, so now they're uniformed security guards and not receipt checkers. And they saw me not pay for my cartload of stuff. Well then!

    Do those goalposts hurt from moving them?

    You tell me.

    <sigh> I'm just saying in terms of any department store with a uniformed security guard, not Costco. Is it dickish for a security guard to assume you're a thief without actually seeing you steal and only seeing you push a cart through the doors without going through a register? Yes, it's totally dickish, but they still have probable cause/reasonable belief.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Lady Raven is from NuHams. :<

    i know and she's such a jerk omg

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I don't think destruction of property is in the same league as rape but they're both wrong

    well, to be fair, i don't think receipt checking is wrong

    i do think spying on me in my own home through a webcam is wrong

    What about spying on what you're doing with the leased product instead?

    This is the only real parallel I can draw because you're "still in the store" even though it's your property in the cart, without going into crazy federal government spying on you territory. "If you're innocent, why are you so worried about my invading your privacy looking for wrong doing" kind of vibe.

    To be honest, there's no reason checkout can't be doing this shit. Receipt checker's are superfluous to this process. Don't let people out the in door, do a cursory glance as they go out. Hell, get some red stickers and slap them on products so you know this person has at least stopped by checkout. That way they can be doing the "you bought all this stuff" motion without needing staff to do receipt inspections.

    it's really not the same thing

    leasing a product does not mean i sign away my right to privacy to the company i'm leasing from

    does your landlord have a right to put cameras in your apartment since you're only leasing from them?

    I don't know, I'm asking you.

    Why do you care if you have nothing to hide?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    emnmnme wrote: »
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    Has brad Pitt ever played a villain

    Meet Joe Black? Mr. and Mrs. Smith?

    I never saw meet joe black but I didn't get the intention he was meant to be villainous? Could easily be wrong though. Mr and mrs smith I thought you were supposed to be rooting for both smiths to just get along and fuck already

    Trained killer for hire = villain in my mind. And you can always root for villains.
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    japanjapan Registered User regular
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    One time when I was young my dog ran into the road and got hit by a car and they sued my parents because it cracked their bumper.

    not to be terrible, but to be terrible, apart from being kind of a twattish thing to do I don't see how they were in the wrong about that

    EDIT: "Kind of a" is a sarcastic understatement, here.

    Pet insurance (here, at least) usually has a public liability component for precisely this reason

    Although interestingly enough only usually for dogs, as it is generally accepted that a dog should be under its owner's control in a way that other animals are not expected to be

    yeah that was my thinking.

    Although it did just occur to me that the driver could possibly get in hot water for traffic law reasons, under our laws, at least

    you're supposed to drive in a way that makes you able to stop for things that run into the road, see, kids, for example

    Norway, if I recall correctly, practices presumed liability for road traffic accidents.

    That is, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, it will be presumed by a civil court that a less vulnerable road user is liable for an accident involving a more vulnerable road user.

    I'm not familiar with how this generally shakes out in practice, but I can see this kind of thing falling into that category.

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    y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    I tell the story sometimes that I let some elderly people cross the street in NH and they looked stunned and hesitant to go until one looked at my car and said to their friends "oh, they're from Massachusetts, no wonder"

    I think that sums up NH pretty good

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Sam's IS walmart and receipt checks. But wal-mart does too. I HAVE walked past the wal-mart receipt checker.

    Old Hag SAW me check out. SAW my empty buggy. SAW it be filled with scanned goods by the checker. Fuck you, lady.

    I got a "Sir......Sir...."

    And that's it


    damn right you didn't stop me

    whoa whoa whoa we got a badass over here

    whoa dk, let's not be so hasty

    ludious is only a badass if he told the little old lady to "suck it" on his way out

    what if he just did one of those flick your hand out under your chin moves

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    tyrannus wrote: »
    probably doesn't help receipt checkers if the store policy doesn't mandate that they give everyone a receipt

    i don't think there'd be that level of lack of foresight, though

    Speaking from 9 years of working at Costco. If you go through the register, you get a receipt. If you don't, a supervisor gets called over to get you one.

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    god damn that intro to trainspotting

    danny boyle such promise.

    like, he's had a pretty good career but honestly i don't think he'll ever match the vitality of trainspotting

    127 hours was pretty damn good

    One of those movies I wanted to hate a lot but when I saw it had to admit this is very well done

    i mean i think he's a good director

    sunshine, for its third act flaws, was a beautiful movie

    28 days later was great and essentially reinvented a genre

    people kind of roll their eyes at slumdog millionaire these days because of all the academy fellation but honestly it was a solid movie

    it's just that trainspotting was really revolutionary when it came out. it was a cultural high water mark, like pulp fiction i suppose. can't really ever follow that in the same way

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

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    cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    cptrugged wrote: »
    The two that busted me at Target when I was a kid were like really hardcore about it. Grabbed me up and pulled me into the security room. When my grandparents called looking for me over the PA, they came up with this plan to distract them at the snack bar till the cops arrived just in case they were the heads of some adolescent thief ring. It was a pretty crazy experience.

    God, I was such a dumb little fuck to do that.

    I shoplifted a lot of baseball cards when I was little

    then when I got older I tried to shoplift a porno magazine once and got detained

    this was at the military base and then my parents had to come to the little surveillance room and like, bail me out

    so mortifying

    then I got grounded for like 3 months I think

    The funny thing for me was that I thought my dad was gonna whup my ass somethin' fierce. But it was actually my ma who flipped out. Screamin' and cryin' and shit. My dad sat me down and told me he'd tried the same shit when he was a kid. That he was gonna pawn my Nintendo and Gameboy as punishment. But he didn't whup me. It was one of the times he genuinely surprised me as a kid with his understanding.

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    Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Woah what the fuck, Interstellar comes out in November!? Me and Lady Raven saw a trailer for it a month ago saying "This Time Next Year"

    Oh brilliant
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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I don't think destruction of property is in the same league as rape but they're both wrong

    well, to be fair, i don't think receipt checking is wrong

    i do think spying on me in my own home through a webcam is wrong

    What about spying on what you're doing with the leased product instead?

    This is the only real parallel I can draw because you're "still in the store" even though it's your property in the cart, without going into crazy federal government spying on you territory. "If you're innocent, why are you so worried about my invading your privacy looking for wrong doing" kind of vibe.

    To be honest, there's no reason checkout can't be doing this shit. Receipt checker's are superfluous to this process. Don't let people out the in door, do a cursory glance as they go out. Hell, get some red stickers and slap them on products so you know this person has at least stopped by checkout. That way they can be doing the "you bought all this stuff" motion without needing staff to do receipt inspections.

    it's really not the same thing

    leasing a product does not mean i sign away my right to privacy to the company i'm leasing from

    does your landlord have a right to put cameras in your apartment since you're only leasing from them?

    I don't know, I'm asking you.

    Why do you care if you have nothing to hide?

    you are arguing that having someone take a penny from the tray at the 7-11 they didn't need and having someone steal from my house are equivalent and then asking why i'd be upset about one and not the other

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    y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Gooey wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    Sam's IS walmart and receipt checks. But wal-mart does too. I HAVE walked past the wal-mart receipt checker.

    Old Hag SAW me check out. SAW my empty buggy. SAW it be filled with scanned goods by the checker. Fuck you, lady.

    I got a "Sir......Sir...."

    And that's it


    damn right you didn't stop me

    whoa whoa whoa we got a badass over here

    whoa dk, let's not be so hasty

    ludious is only a badass if he told the little old lady to "suck it" on his way out

    what if he just did one of those flick your hand out under your chin moves

    Nope, the floor here for badass is a fist pump "up yours"

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    PotatoNinjaPotatoNinja Fake Gamer Goat Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    kaleedity wrote: »
    kaleedity wrote: »
    kaleedity wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    LoL is the MOBA equivalent of WOw. Doesn't matter at this point if you make a better one LoL is so ubiquitous and people are so invested you'll never dethrone it

    I think that can actually work to your advantage if you work around it - LoL is so big that trying to copy it won't work. So you're free to try to come up with something new instead.

    yeah, i think that's where the whole "you won't dethrone WoW" thing came from

    is everyone just trying to make the next WoW

    no one wanted a new WoW because they already had WoW

    this is true in many markets. You never replace an entrenched product or service by doing the same thing but better. The advantage for having got there first is too great.

    WoW completely dethroned Everquest despite basically being "the same thing but better." You can absolutely dethrone #1, you just need to be better enough to steal their thunder and keep it. Come at the King, best not miss etc.

    WoW has remained top dog because nobody has actually succeeded in "being WoW but better." If you want the WoW experience, WoW is the best way to get it.

    guild wars 2 managed to carve out a nice niche and is surprisingly good. it probably chipped off a piece of WoW that WoW wasn't serving particularly well - casual semi-solo gaming. WoW is still the undisputed king of lategame content tho

    I really wanted to like Guild Wars 2

    it did so many things well

    but the big core of the game, fightin' dudes, didn't come together very well

    One thing WoW has always done really well is give their movement and abilities and combat a very kinetic, responsive, visceral feel. If you hit someone with a big attack in WoW, it feels like a big attack. If the boss has a gigantic smash attack, you'll know it. The audio and visual design reinforce each ability so things feel appropriate.

    Guild Wars 2 didn't really have this. "I put a glowy symbol thing on the ground and shoot flames and get a combo bonus and that might be a really huge deal or it might just be a gigantic lightshow that does nothing." My best attacks were often visually underwhelming and deceptively powerful, and there was really no indication for the player as to what was a minor, incidental attack and what was a terrifying one-shot death blow.

    It's weird. I've had this conversation with people before.. and I guess it's just me. But I found that WoW was the exact opposite. The one thing I never liked about it was the animations and how combat felt like I was just pressing buttons to make numbers appear.

    this interests me

    what class did you play and when
    Like most people I played a little of everything.

    But for my stuff I actually raided with..

    I played Huntard from vanilla through BC.

    Then played DK through WotLK and into the start of Cata.

    Ah you played a lot more than I was assuming

    ever since they went the whole [to survive, you must use a cooldown] and [to kill an enemy player, you must use a cooldown] thing I've kinda been out

    might try to pick it up again when the expansion hits because that's apparently been toned down a little and trying to pick it up near the tail of an expansion, like now, is absurd.

    Yea I dunno. I guess I just don't understand what people are talking about when they say it had such good animations. Most of the melee attacks used the exact same animation. It was like there were 1 hand animations and 2hand animations. Weapon didn't matter. Most the skills were repeats. Very simple and unexciting. But people praise it like crazy. Not sure why.

    It's not the animations. It feels meaty to charge, hamstring, pummel, back off to intercept, then execute someone

    in gw2 you can stand still and swing your sword like a channeled spell in an area for like 3 seconds and if the server agrees with you they might get hit

    just as an aside

    destiny has by the most satisfying melee attacks of any game i've played

    meaty as fuck. all 3 characters have distinct attacks with a few variants and you feel like you're mike tyson punching 200 pounds of quivering beef

    also the jumping and environmental interactions are real satisfying

    The Titan has a special melee attack they only get while sprinting (requires they sprint for about 3 seconds before using)

    if you use it in midair, you do a Tiger Knee

    it is RAD. AS. FUK.

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    y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    god damn that intro to trainspotting

    danny boyle such promise.

    like, he's had a pretty good career but honestly i don't think he'll ever match the vitality of trainspotting

    127 hours was pretty damn good

    One of those movies I wanted to hate a lot but when I saw it had to admit this is very well done

    i mean i think he's a good director

    sunshine, for its third act flaws, was a beautiful movie

    28 days later was great and essentially reinvented a genre

    people kind of roll their eyes at slumdog millionaire these days because of all the academy fellation but honestly it was a solid movie

    it's just that trainspotting was really revolutionary when it came out. it was a cultural high water mark, like pulp fiction i suppose. can't really ever follow that in the same way

    I still haven't seen it

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

    I think you are drastically overstating my position.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    cptrugged wrote: »
    The two that busted me at Target when I was a kid were like really hardcore about it. Grabbed me up and pulled me into the security room. When my grandparents called looking for me over the PA, they came up with this plan to distract them at the snack bar till the cops arrived just in case they were the heads of some adolescent thief ring. It was a pretty crazy experience.

    God, I was such a dumb little fuck to do that.

    I shoplifted a lot of baseball cards when I was little

    then when I got older I tried to shoplift a porno magazine once and got detained

    this was at the military base and then my parents had to come to the little surveillance room and like, bail me out

    so mortifying

    then I got grounded for like 3 months I think

    I guess you didn't get off so easy.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    Ludious wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

    ITT badasses batter old ladies.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    japan wrote: »
    Abdhyius wrote: »
    Vanguard wrote: »
    One time when I was young my dog ran into the road and got hit by a car and they sued my parents because it cracked their bumper.

    not to be terrible, but to be terrible, apart from being kind of a twattish thing to do I don't see how they were in the wrong about that

    EDIT: "Kind of a" is a sarcastic understatement, here.

    Pet insurance (here, at least) usually has a public liability component for precisely this reason

    Although interestingly enough only usually for dogs, as it is generally accepted that a dog should be under its owner's control in a way that other animals are not expected to be

    yeah that was my thinking.

    Although it did just occur to me that the driver could possibly get in hot water for traffic law reasons, under our laws, at least

    you're supposed to drive in a way that makes you able to stop for things that run into the road, see, kids, for example

    Norway, if I recall correctly, practices presumed liability for road traffic accidents.

    That is, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, it will be presumed by a civil court that a less vulnerable road user is liable for an accident involving a more vulnerable road user.

    I'm not familiar with how this generally shakes out in practice, but I can see this kind of thing falling into that category.

    pretty much exactly like that

    if you run someone over it's always your fault, because the law says you cannot be driving in a way where that'll happen, responsibility to ensure that is on you and not the kids playing soccer by the street
    Ludious wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

    you dastardly made a powerless old lady feel powerless by showcasing that she did not have any power

    you bastard

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

    I think you are drastically overstating my position.

    did you or did you not put on a ludious mask and beat up an old lady to make your point

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    Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator mod
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    I tell the story sometimes that I let some elderly people cross the street in NH and they looked stunned and hesitant to go until one looked at my car and said to their friends "oh, they're from Massachusetts, no wonder"

    I think that sums up NH pretty good

    i am 100% positive they talked shit about "massholes" less than a minute later

    like you stopping to let them cross is somehow fucking up their shitty state

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    I've been to many stores where I've been asked to show a receipt when I'm leaving. Hell, I've been a receipt checker a few times. This was in the 90s so its not a new practice. If you have a store that is literally hundreds of thousands of square feet, with hundreds of customers its not practical to visually see if someone has paid for their stuff. So they have someone check your receipt for like 15 seconds and then let you proceed.

    By the quoted story, the employee grabbed the cart. Even if you don't believe the store can stop you from leaving, they could surely prevent you from taking a cart. At best convention calls for the store to allow you to use the cart to load your car, and the same convention would require him to allow his receipt to be checked. The guy used violence on one employee and then violence was used on him. I don't have too much sympathy.

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    TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    The door checker at our Costco is a Bama fan and recognizes me.
    so we just talk shit as I stroll on by.
    Then she stops the person behind me.

    Bless your heart.
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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Cinders wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

    I think you are drastically overstating my position.

    did you or did you not put on a ludious mask and beat up an old lady to make your point

    THAT WAS AN UNRELATED INCIDENT

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    DoctorArchDoctorArch Curmudgeon Registered User regular
    tyrannus wrote: »
    http://www.oregonlaws.org/ors/131.655
    Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person may be detained in a reasonable manner and for a reasonable time by:
    A merchant or merchants employee who has probable cause for believing that the person has committed theft of property of a store or other mercantile establishment; or
    all the cases I have quickly googled seem to have ruled in favor of whoever claims wrongful arrest

    so it looks like it's hard as fuck to prove that you actually have probably cause!!

    @tyrannus‌ ,

    I could find 14 cases regarding ORS 131.655, and they all depend on the facts. Most of them appear to be jury trials where the plaintiff was able to overcome the defense. Another was where Fred Meyer (Kroger for the east coasters) "randomly" checked receipts and racially profiled a man as he was coming out of the store.

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    LudiousLudious I just wanted a sandwich A temporally dislocated QuiznosRegistered User regular
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    TehSlothTehSloth Hit Or Miss I Guess They Never Miss, HuhRegistered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    kaleedity wrote: »
    kaleedity wrote: »
    kaleedity wrote: »
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    Echo wrote: »
    LoL is the MOBA equivalent of WOw. Doesn't matter at this point if you make a better one LoL is so ubiquitous and people are so invested you'll never dethrone it

    I think that can actually work to your advantage if you work around it - LoL is so big that trying to copy it won't work. So you're free to try to come up with something new instead.

    yeah, i think that's where the whole "you won't dethrone WoW" thing came from

    is everyone just trying to make the next WoW

    no one wanted a new WoW because they already had WoW

    this is true in many markets. You never replace an entrenched product or service by doing the same thing but better. The advantage for having got there first is too great.

    WoW completely dethroned Everquest despite basically being "the same thing but better." You can absolutely dethrone #1, you just need to be better enough to steal their thunder and keep it. Come at the King, best not miss etc.

    WoW has remained top dog because nobody has actually succeeded in "being WoW but better." If you want the WoW experience, WoW is the best way to get it.

    guild wars 2 managed to carve out a nice niche and is surprisingly good. it probably chipped off a piece of WoW that WoW wasn't serving particularly well - casual semi-solo gaming. WoW is still the undisputed king of lategame content tho

    I really wanted to like Guild Wars 2

    it did so many things well

    but the big core of the game, fightin' dudes, didn't come together very well

    One thing WoW has always done really well is give their movement and abilities and combat a very kinetic, responsive, visceral feel. If you hit someone with a big attack in WoW, it feels like a big attack. If the boss has a gigantic smash attack, you'll know it. The audio and visual design reinforce each ability so things feel appropriate.

    Guild Wars 2 didn't really have this. "I put a glowy symbol thing on the ground and shoot flames and get a combo bonus and that might be a really huge deal or it might just be a gigantic lightshow that does nothing." My best attacks were often visually underwhelming and deceptively powerful, and there was really no indication for the player as to what was a minor, incidental attack and what was a terrifying one-shot death blow.

    It's weird. I've had this conversation with people before.. and I guess it's just me. But I found that WoW was the exact opposite. The one thing I never liked about it was the animations and how combat felt like I was just pressing buttons to make numbers appear.

    this interests me

    what class did you play and when
    Like most people I played a little of everything.

    But for my stuff I actually raided with..

    I played Huntard from vanilla through BC.

    Then played DK through WotLK and into the start of Cata.

    Ah you played a lot more than I was assuming

    ever since they went the whole [to survive, you must use a cooldown] and [to kill an enemy player, you must use a cooldown] thing I've kinda been out

    might try to pick it up again when the expansion hits because that's apparently been toned down a little and trying to pick it up near the tail of an expansion, like now, is absurd.

    Yea I dunno. I guess I just don't understand what people are talking about when they say it had such good animations. Most of the melee attacks used the exact same animation. It was like there were 1 hand animations and 2hand animations. Weapon didn't matter. Most the skills were repeats. Very simple and unexciting. But people praise it like crazy. Not sure why.

    It's not the animations. It feels meaty to charge, hamstring, pummel, back off to intercept, then execute someone

    in gw2 you can stand still and swing your sword like a channeled spell in an area for like 3 seconds and if the server agrees with you they might get hit

    just as an aside

    destiny has by the most satisfying melee attacks of any game i've played

    meaty as fuck. all 3 characters have distinct attacks with a few variants and you feel like you're mike tyson punching 200 pounds of quivering beef

    also the jumping and environmental interactions are real satisfying

    The Titan has a special melee attack they only get while sprinting (requires they sprint for about 3 seconds before using)

    if you use it in midair, you do a Tiger Knee

    it is RAD. AS. FUK.

    I popped glide on my warlock at the same time as someone meleed me and I just went flying backwards all the way across the map -- it was amazing and bizarre.

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    VanguardVanguard But now the dream is over. And the insect is awake.Registered User, __BANNED USERS regular
    i never stole when i was younger but i did commit several felonies for which i was never caught

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    TTODewbackTTODewback Puts the drawl in ya'll I think I'm in HellRegistered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    i never stole when i was younger but i did commit several felonies for which i was never caught
    Today we learn Vanguard is a serial killer.

    Bless your heart.
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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Vanguard wrote: »
    Ludious wrote: »
    I never claimed to be a badass. That was cinders than made it sound like I was some criminal battering old ladies.

    ITT badasses batter old ladies.

    well if we assume that the exception proves the rule, then maybe

    I mean, one is certainly not a badass when one fails to batter an old lady

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    CouscousCouscous Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
    I've been to many stores where I've been asked to show a receipt when I'm leaving. Hell, I've been a receipt checker a few times. This was in the 90s so its not a new practice. If you have a store that is literally hundreds of thousands of square feet, with hundreds of customers its not practical to visually see if someone has paid for their stuff. So they have someone check your receipt for like 15 seconds and then let you proceed.

    By the quoted story, the employee grabbed the cart. Even if you don't believe the store can stop you from leaving, they could surely prevent you from taking a cart. At best convention calls for the store to allow you to use the cart to load your car, and the same convention would require him to allow his receipt to be checked. The guy used violence on one employee and then violence was used on him. I don't have too much sympathy.

    Do you think the employee would have done nothing if he had started taking the bags to his car instead of using the cart to push them there?

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