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Yup. Yellow Journalism was a thing long before CNN / Fox News, Twitter, or Web 2.0 ever came along.
Some of the earliest writings we've found are basically 'Kids these days' complaints.
What's old is new, confirmation biases, etc.
Complaining on the internet?
You'd never find something so trite back in the golden 80s and 90s!
No...Karen Gillan. Nooo...John Cho. Not like this.
Eh, I didn't find it that bad. Not good enough to bother watching the show probably, but I'd still take it over something like Big Bang Theory.
Said a little differently, but yeah.
Very true, so many popular shows of the past were not good and would never survive in a world where people have more than 4 channels to choose from.
Which one?
Related:
"Grown men and women, sixty years old, twenty‑five years old, sit around and talk about the "golden age of science fiction," remembering when every story in every magazine was a masterwork of daring, original thought. Some say the golden age was circa 1928; some say 1939; some favor 1953, or 1970, or 1984. The arguments rage till the small of morning, and nothing is ever resolved. Because the real golden age of science fiction is twelve."
—Peter Graham (probably)
Tell him about Reagan.
What I said and that quote are not related.
Its a cyclical thing.
One example: The Enlightenment was an era where many educated people realized how ignorant humanity was and attempted to move forward from many backwards ideas. Romanticism was a reaction against the Enlightenment that, well, romanticized the glories of the past.
Humanity cycles between realizing how terrible our current condition is and attempting to improve it, and romanticizing about the past when that attempt fails.
"Orkses never lose a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fightin so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!".
Introduce him to the guy who started Rick Rolls.
and AIDS.
and the threat of global thermonuclear war.
and parachute pants.
The Golden Age of television that is going on now is arguably a real thing. TV is being taken seriously as a medium and great stories are now told that wouldn't have been possible to tell ten years ago.
I can't watch that video without wondering why a skinny redhead is lip-syncing to a song clearly being sung by a giant black dude.
Also: 80s dancing is hilarious.
David Hartwell.
Still an awesome quote.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
I love the music, the fashion, and the cinema.
BTW, part of the appeal of Rick Roll is that it's a catchy song. It's also ridiculous. But some people enjoy it.
the "no true scotch man" fallacy.
Now there are arguments for and against getting it all at once. But if you were to suggest something like this even ten years ago you'd be laughed out of the room. Never mind the guffawing over Netflix becoming a major competitor against networks for new TV shows.
True. People have always looked fondly back on an earlier time. But that natural human impulse used to lead to great things. Middle Ages Europe looked up to the Ancient Romans, and in doing so worked to preserve Roman culture, architecture, writing, all of which would otherwise be lost to history. American colonials looked to the Greeks for inspiration, and the great monuments they were inspired to build still stand unique. Being an intellectual in the 19th and early 20th century meant studying the classics, even learning Latin. Shakespeare was the height of drama to which all others were compared and found wanting.
Now, though, people complain about social media and cell phones--but to what end? At best we get pastiches; at worse the near past is fetishized beyond all reason, negative qualities minimized or elided completely. We yearn for the past not because we truly understand it or because we could use its lessons to guide our art or our lives, but simply as an outlet for our hate and a pandering gesture toward the common hate of our fellows for the present day. I remember back when talking about how the past was better was better. What happened?
I agree on all points. I actually really like Ashley, even though all his songs are basically the same
The 60s and early 70s get an awful lot of attention in certain circles.
Your probably about the right age to have contemporaries who could rattle off Howl or the Wave Speech. Who read On the Road and know more about the civil rights movement and the counter culture than most folks who lived through it.
Nostalgia ain't what it used to be
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
10 episodes, each for a different perspective, all randomized in each person's queue
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Arrested Development actually did this, now that I think about it. No randomization if I recall correctly though.
No randomization. In fact, it probably would loose a lot of the humor if it was.
Wtf, a dead pigeon in a bag in the fridge. Is sort of a different joke than, hey, it that dead pigeon and it is in the fridge.
Or, you know, it's not really, but the concept should apply to other things, and the comedic concepts of dramatic irony and timing might tend to require things a drama does not or at least significant consideration of the fact people would be getting punchlines before set ups.
Which just means that joke didn't happen, and you'd need to supliment it with a joke that does work in that direction. Which would require a pretty amazingly detailed level of screenwriting to do well. Which would be hella awesome.