There are a handful of hero-specific changes going into the upcoming patch:
VISION
The damage of all powers that spend Solar Energy has been increased by an average of 10%.
Comeuppance & High-Density Slam will now gain an additional 25% damage bonus after hitting with either Basic power.
High-Density Slam now moves to cursor location, similar to Comeuppance.
The damage bonuses on Phase Punch & High-Density Punch will now correctly be applied after using Density Shift.
SCARLET WITCH
The Omega node "Legion"'s proc effects now correctly trigger in a random order as is described in the tooltip. This resolves an issue with Scarlet Witch always gaining certain procs but not others while Unmake Reality is active.
Scarlet Witch's Ultimate power should now gain invulnerability as soon as it begins, preventing players from getting interrupted when using this power.
HAWKEYE
Hawkeye's Acrobatic Roll has received some new animations, and travels about 30% farther per activation!
MR. FANTASTIC, NOVA, MOON KNIGHT
These heroes have had their hero-specific Unique items upgraded by amthua!
Please use this thread to report issues or leave feedback on any of the above hero changes. For clarity, please note which hero you are leaving feedback for at the top of your post.
Thanks!
The aforementioned Quicksilver TU and min/max rolls on items also on TC.
@Dirtyboy made all my Iron Man dreams come true! I only own 6 total heroes on the roster, I have 1k Gaz Bucks. This bogo sale seems like something I should do. Is there one hero in general that is kind of a consensus you must lvl this hero for synergy and fun that I should be looking at? I wish there was just Random Hero boxes I could buy =P
Cyclops's synergy is universally quite good. And Juggernaut is absurdly fun. Running around stiff arming dudes then elbow dropping anyone left.
I was thinking about just getting a big bruising hero, all of my guys are finesse types, I do own the thing as I got him as a starter hero but I wont play him till after his review.
Everything is about dps now. If you want to jump in on the Legion Scarlet Witch train she can stand tall with all cosmics and most one shots without blinking an eye. And by this I mean I tele into the boss room and face tank errything. Plus you get to say "you've got red on you" all the time which is only a bonus.
On the TC at the moment she's not triggering Legion or any Omega based proc. Might be a mistake, a test or an incomming nerf.
Yes, they nerfed fixed it. The outrage is glorious.
Greetings all,
We wanted to get ahead of this as soon as we had a solution ready to present that was available for testing. Legion's procs are, on Live, built in an odd way that determine which procs fire when, resulting in consistently getting the same procs when Unmake Reality triggers, rather than it giving X of the listed buffs. To give some insight, this has nothing to do with the listed order on the tooltip, or even the order the designer tells it to fire in, but rather is based on the backend numerical series of digits that labels the node (a.k.a the node's ID). This caused confusion both for us and you, the players, on how this interaction between Legion and Unmake Reality actually worked.
On Test Center currently, Legion has been slightly altered to work in a way that more accurately reflects the intent of the node - to have a small chance to give a random buff effect. When not under the effects of Unmake Reality, Legion will function exactly as it did before. There should be no difference visible from the previous version.
However, while under the effects of Unmake Reality, the Legion procs will trigger randomly. This still retains it as an incredibly powerful tool for Scarlet players and likely one of the best Omega nodes available to her, but prevents it from being too powerful by keeping 100% uptime on the best procs.
We apologize that this was not addressed before launch. However, we're still very confident that Scarlet will be a strong, top-tier choice after this change goes live.
-Mayhem
"Can you describe (1) how many procs will be triggered; (2) what is the order or priority in which they will be triggered (if that's how the change works); and (3) how long the buff effects will last?"
1) Up to 10 buffs will be triggered, depending on if you have other procs consuming the 10 available slots, such as from items (Hand of Doom, for example). Each buff will consume one 'proc charge' from the Unmake Reality buff.
2) The order or priority is randomized.
3) The buff effects will last the same duration they did before.
"It seems like Gaz is trying as hard as they can to stamp out any kind of emergent gameplay that deviates from their typical design structure for how heroes should be built."
Quite the opposite, in fact. If we didn't make any changes, Scarlet players would be forced into one build and one build only, with one specific set of items, and no other options. It was very, very clear that if this wasn't fixed, it would remove not only itemization choice from players, but also build choice, since one was far superior due to the Legion interaction. It wouldn't be long before we started seeing players who didn't want to go Legion (or didn't have enough Omega) rejected from groups for choosing to play differently, due to the vast power difference between them.
Let me clarify a couple points.
1) The itemization comment - Removing procs from your itemization means that more proc slots are devoted to Legion, since nothing else can consume them. Simply put, the fewer procs that consume the charges you have, the more charges can be triggered by Legion. You can still choose to itemize to have the maximum chance to get the best Legion buffs, and since there are only 14 of them, the chances of doing so are still pretty dang high. However, you need to make that choice to do so, whereas before, you could be using 'normal gear' and still get the procs, making minimal itemization changes due to the nature of how Legion operated.
2) The 'frequency' - Unmake Reality triggered everything at once before, whereas the new version could be read as "100% chance on hit to give a Legion buff". This means, in order to fully test, one single packet of damage won't trigger everything - you'll still have charges to spare. Each hit will now trigger a Legion buff, so you'll need to hit with a few things (maybe a full second's worth of damage given how often she deals damage packets) to see all the effects go off.
The TC build doesn't have it working as I described it in the original post. It's triggering three Legion buffs and then stopping, even if more proc charges are available. Mysterious.
To avoid any further issues, we're going to do a full revert and make no changes to Legion for the moment. The changes described in this thread will not go live.
That being said, this is still on our radar (along with those need-not-be-named heroes who are further above everyone else) as something that needs addressing for balance. However, given the feedback in this thread, we're very likely to tackle it from a different direction rather than randomize the procs.
I'm going to leave the thread open for awhile for comments on the most recent news, and close it later today to prevent people from getting too confused.
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So I got Nova and Loki from somewhere, and Nova seems pretty fun, also fast, and I haven't tried Loki yet. Still have no idea on builds, so haven't spent any power points. Also, I don't really want to be sucked into this buuuut...
So I got Nova and Loki from somewhere, and Nova seems pretty fun, also fast, and I haven't tried Loki yet. Still have no idea on builds, so haven't spent any power points. Also, I don't really want to be sucked into this buuuut...
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That being said, this is still on our radar (along with those need-not-be-named heroes who are further above everyone else)
Venom was mentioned numerous times in that thread. Hulk will most likely escape any serious nerfs as he is tons of burst damage that heavily relies on brutals and the more you spec him for DPS the squishier he gets.
There are a handful of hero-specific changes going into the upcoming patch:
VISION
The damage of all powers that spend Solar Energy has been increased by an average of 10%.
Comeuppance & High-Density Slam will now gain an additional 25% damage bonus after hitting with either Basic power.
High-Density Slam now moves to cursor location, similar to Comeuppance.
The damage bonuses on Phase Punch & High-Density Punch will now correctly be applied after using Density Shift.
SCARLET WITCH
The Omega node "Legion"'s proc effects now correctly trigger in a random order as is described in the tooltip. This resolves an issue with Scarlet Witch always gaining certain procs but not others while Unmake Reality is active.
Scarlet Witch's Ultimate power should now gain invulnerability as soon as it begins, preventing players from getting interrupted when using this power.
HAWKEYE
Hawkeye's Acrobatic Roll has received some new animations, and travels about 30% farther per activation!
MR. FANTASTIC, NOVA, MOON KNIGHT
These heroes have had their hero-specific Unique items upgraded by amthua!
Please use this thread to report issues or leave feedback on any of the above hero changes. For clarity, please note which hero you are leaving feedback for at the top of your post.
Thanks!
The aforementioned Quicksilver TU and min/max rolls on items also on TC.[/quote]
This is generally awesome but all summon boosts are showing as 0 - 0 which makes me sad.
Also, Cap was mentioned a bunch in that thread so get your pitchforks ready. Gaz painted themselves into a corner with power creep and it's going to get ugly as they try to undo it.
Also, Cap was mentioned a bunch in that thread so get your pitchforks ready. Gaz painted themselves into a corner with power creep and it's going to get ugly as they try to undo it.
Oh No! <goes to get his pitchfork>
But really, I'm okay with them making a point to level out the heroes, or at least adjusting them so max DPS means less in other areas.
Looks like it's almost time to dust off good ol' Reed!
If Gaz does it right with slight nerfs to Venom, Cap, Hulk, Pun etc. then it should be fine. But they'll probably completely wreck them and somehow buff Punisher even harder.
As an aside, I just got my lvl66 Insig recipe, so I can help people out with those, not the biggest upgrade but still nice to have.
So I got Nova and Loki from somewhere, and Nova seems pretty fun, also fast, and I haven't tried Loki yet. Still have no idea on builds, so haven't spent any power points. Also, I don't really want to be sucked into this buuuut...
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I am glad they give you an extra spec, so you can kinda screw around, and then have a properbuild. Because I have no idea how any builds work. Especially since my main was Wanda. Also i forgot, but I think my original choice of hero for completing the story was Thor. Kinda wish I could have different choices.
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As long as Hulk will never have to worry about spirit, I don't care what they do to him
I've decided to just start out with one of my Level 1s and start fresh. So I'm trying out Scarlet Witch and I just leveled her from 1-25ish or something in about an hour. I have +500% exp thanks to boosts. And that doesn't include the Avengers exp bonus too. Yay.
Fencingsax I wouldn't worry too hard about wasting points. Every character can get three respec potions from story(the beat Bullseye mission once on each difficulty) so just play around with things.
So I got Nova and Loki from somewhere, and Nova seems pretty fun, also fast, and I haven't tried Loki yet. Still have no idea on builds, so haven't spent any power points. Also, I don't really want to be sucked into this buuuut...
JOIN US!!!
I am glad they give you an extra spec, so you can kinda screw around, and then have a properbuild. Because I have no idea how any builds work. Especially since my main was Wanda. Also i forgot, but I think my original choice of hero for completing the story was Thor. Kinda wish I could have different choices.
They're both excellent characters, probably top ten on each(definitely on SW, probably on Thor). Strong damage, survivability and utility on each.
Has the funbux or inventory space ever gone on sale? Or just the various packs/costumes/whatever?
There was a discount on Cable's stash box not too long ago (among with other Cable-related things), to celebrate the character's first appearance anniversary or something like that. That's the only example I can think of regarding inventory space, though.
Stash won't ever directly go on sale. The closest it will be is when they have the bonus Gs sales. At some point in the future they are revamping stash tabs so you can move their order around and label them. Also, a "few" tabs will be purchasable with splinters.
I'm ready for them to fix their stat system and make all the crit gear that everybody traded insane amounts of shit for to be less useful
Bring it on
Remember dodge.... anybody? anybody?
the problem with gaz is that either a> they are terrible at spreadsheets or b> dont use them c> ignore the math guys (id say people but i took stats... at georgia tech)
Gaz tends to have this gut feeling way of 'fixing' things which makes entire trees/affixes/skill sets/omega nodes pretty damn useless.
If you play the same way the skill designers player than you are in some sort of blissful nirvana but if you move in any other direction it isnt good. With item creep playing the other ways is possible but so ineffective. As Gaz isnt forthcoming with the math (which i suspect is because its fundamentally flawed at its core) we get these obvious bugs.
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There are a handful of hero-specific changes going into the upcoming patch:
VISION
The damage of all powers that spend Solar Energy has been increased by an average of 10%.
Comeuppance & High-Density Slam will now gain an additional 25% damage bonus after hitting with either Basic power.
High-Density Slam now moves to cursor location, similar to Comeuppance.
The damage bonuses on Phase Punch & High-Density Punch will now correctly be applied after using Density Shift.
SCARLET WITCH
The Omega node "Legion"'s proc effects now correctly trigger in a random order as is described in the tooltip. This resolves an issue with Scarlet Witch always gaining certain procs but not others while Unmake Reality is active.
Scarlet Witch's Ultimate power should now gain invulnerability as soon as it begins, preventing players from getting interrupted when using this power.
HAWKEYE
Hawkeye's Acrobatic Roll has received some new animations, and travels about 30% farther per activation!
MR. FANTASTIC, NOVA, MOON KNIGHT
These heroes have had their hero-specific Unique items upgraded by amthua!
Please use this thread to report issues or leave feedback on any of the above hero changes. For clarity, please note which hero you are leaving feedback for at the top of your post.
Thanks!
The aforementioned Quicksilver TU and min/max rolls on items also on TC.
After that I'm good, I think
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One of the nice things about maining one of the heroes who aren't that strong right now
This is generally awesome but all summon boosts are showing as 0 - 0 which makes me sad.
I'm pretty much maining Cap, but he was supposed to be pretty stout after his review, so I'm not worried
Bring it on
Oh No! <goes to get his pitchfork>
But really, I'm okay with them making a point to level out the heroes, or at least adjusting them so max DPS means less in other areas.
If Gaz does it right with slight nerfs to Venom, Cap, Hulk, Pun etc. then it should be fine. But they'll probably completely wreck them and somehow buff Punisher even harder.
As an aside, I just got my lvl66 Insig recipe, so I can help people out with those, not the biggest upgrade but still nice to have.
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Because he's the Hulk
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But we'll see, I hope they don't fuck him up because right now he's easily my favorite hero to play.
Maybe they'll unfuck Spider-Man sometime though and I can go back to my first love.
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They're both excellent characters, probably top ten on each(definitely on SW, probably on Thor). Strong damage, survivability and utility on each.
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Like, sorry, no. That isn't emergent gameplay to realize a random process isn't actually firing randomly and abusing that.
Don't think theres anywhere to go with that character but up as far as tinkering goes.
Remember dodge.... anybody? anybody?
the problem with gaz is that either a> they are terrible at spreadsheets or b> dont use them c> ignore the math guys (id say people but i took stats... at georgia tech)
Gaz tends to have this gut feeling way of 'fixing' things which makes entire trees/affixes/skill sets/omega nodes pretty damn useless.
If you play the same way the skill designers player than you are in some sort of blissful nirvana but if you move in any other direction it isnt good. With item creep playing the other ways is possible but so ineffective. As Gaz isnt forthcoming with the math (which i suspect is because its fundamentally flawed at its core) we get these obvious bugs.
I have actually not once finished the story mode
You use it to see what your odds are of getting a dupe.
random is random though
you can have an 80% chance to get a new hero and get 2 Black Widows in a row
like I did