It's not an extra 60%, because it's additive with Vital Sense, which is already 120%. If I swap an element for Hammer Shot my Soma goes from 6.6x to 8.4x, which is only a 27% increase.
Swapping Fanged Fusillade for an element is an increase of about 15 points per shot at base.
I swaped it with hammer shot so I still have corrosive, don't really know if it's worth the lose of crit damage from hammer shot but oh well.
Grass Grows,
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
It's not an extra 60%, because it's additive with Vital Sense, which is already 120%. If I swap an element for Hammer Shot my Soma goes from 6.6x to 8.4x, which is only a 27% increase.
Swapping Fanged Fusillade for an element is an increase of about 15 points per shot at base.
I swaped it with hammer shot so I still have corrosive, don't really know if it's worth the lose of crit damage from hammer shot but oh well.
My takeaway from this is "math is HARD", I really need to get around to putting more $ into that Serration, and a Soma Prime needs to show up already.
It's not an extra 60%, because it's additive with Vital Sense, which is already 120%. If I swap an element for Hammer Shot my Soma goes from 6.6x to 8.4x, which is only a 27% increase.
Swapping Fanged Fusillade for an element is an increase of about 15 points per shot at base.
I swaped it with hammer shot so I still have corrosive, don't really know if it's worth the lose of crit damage from hammer shot but oh well.
My takeaway from this is "math is HARD", I really need to get around to putting more $ into that Serration, and a Soma Prime needs to show up already.
Hehe, my take is soft stats are good base stats are better.
Grass Grows,
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
It's not an extra 60%, because it's additive with Vital Sense, which is already 120%. If I swap an element for Hammer Shot my Soma goes from 6.6x to 8.4x, which is only a 27% increase.
Swapping Fanged Fusillade for an element is an increase of about 15 points per shot at base.
I swaped it with hammer shot so I still have corrosive, don't really know if it's worth the lose of crit damage from hammer shot but oh well.
My takeaway from this is "math is HARD", I really need to get around to putting more $ into that Serration, and a Soma Prime needs to show up already.
Hehe, my take is soft stats are good base stats are better.
I maintain "math is HARD", just give me a button that explodes things.
Anyway, the little research I just have done says it's like a 10% difference or so, so for my purposes, I think I can not worry about it for a while, as I'm just stomping mooks.
Yeah if your Serration isn't maxed out yet that should be your top priority before fiddling with this or that other thing for marginal improvements.
Nah, just get your serration up to ten or something, then focus on other mods for a while. Diminishing returns goes up to eleven with Serration, and in the double digits each upgrade gets so expensive that the elemental, multishot, and punch-through mods are gonna get you more DPS for your buck.
Yeah if your Serration isn't maxed out yet that should be your top priority before fiddling with this or that other thing for marginal improvements.
Nah, just get your serration up to ten or something, then focus on other mods for a while. Diminishing returns goes up to eleven with Serration, and in the double digits each upgrade gets so expensive that the elemental, multishot, and punch-through mods are gonna get you more DPS for your buck.
It's uh. It's not at 10. In retrospect maybe that IS the next logical money dump...
I don't understand why this event isn't called the Mobiledefensalist Invasion
Cause that's all you fucking get
First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
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What do people here use for an Alert app for android? I installed the DE one, but it keeps buzzing for an alert even if that alert isn't within the filters I set.
"I will write your name in the ruin of them. I will paint you across history in the color of their blood."
What do people here use for an Alert app for android? I installed the DE one, but it keeps buzzing for an alert even if that alert isn't within the filters I set.
I just use the twitter alert.
Grass Grows,
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
I've got myself a Salad Five key ready for tonight if we've got a group for key-sharing.
I've got one I've been saving for a clan keyshare. Way too many scammers in recruiting to trust pubs right now.
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Citizen KupoIn between here and thereRegistered Userregular
edited December 2014
New hotfix is in, and it brings some Christmas-themed stuff, including a special version of the Imperator syandana, a Christmas sigil, a set of skins for Frost, Mirage, and the Glaxion, and two kubrow fur patterns, both with a set of 3 colors. Also decorations for the dojo and Liset, so Ordis doesn't feel left out.
What do people here use for an Alert app for android? I installed the DE one, but it keeps buzzing for an alert even if that alert isn't within the filters I set.
I mentioned using one in the clan chat earlier. The one I use is called WarDroid. I have it set to enable notifications for potatoes, oxium, and a custom filter for the word "infested" which triggers from Alad V stuff. Its set to push notifications so it doesn't drain much battery and I have it make a quick loud alarm noise with vibration that really no one but me notices seeing as how rare my filters are.
I hopped into trade chat and purchased myself a Bo Prime handle.
I have now risen to rank 4 in the Arbiters of Hexis and have a shiny new Gilded Truth mod for my Burston Prime.
Combined with the Tethra mods, my Burston Prime status build is now a go. The polarities are a bit messed up since the original elemental mods had "-" polarities, but apparently everything still exactly fits.
I'm presently using Viral/Radiation. Usually one of the bullets in the burst is pretty much guaranteed to rip off half of the target's half with a viral proc and one of the bullets usually procs the radiation effect.
I might swap over to corrosive/blast. Near constant corrosive procs will be useful against more heavily armored foes like those encountered in Orokin Void missions...but usually premade groups negate their armor with the corrosive projection aura. The blast knockdown proc is annoying when it is something random that throws of your aim, but reliable blast procs might be useful for CC alone.
So the last companion I need to level is a Sahasa Kubrow, would any of you fine folks be willing to clone your kubrow or however that works and give me the dna to make one? I can give any of the other types in return, I just don't want to waste an egg for a 25% chance at the right one.
I hopped into trade chat and purchased myself a Bo Prime handle.
I have now risen to rank 4 in the Arbiters of Hexis and have a shiny new Gilded Truth mod for my Burston Prime.
Combined with the Tethra mods, my Burston Prime status build is now a go. The polarities are a bit messed up since the original elemental mods had "-" polarities, but apparently everything still exactly fits.
I'm presently using Viral/Radiation. Usually one of the bullets in the burst is pretty much guaranteed to rip off half of the target's half with a viral proc and one of the bullets usually procs the radiation effect.
I might swap over to corrosive/blast. Near constant corrosive procs will be useful against more heavily armored foes like those encountered in Orokin Void missions...but usually premade groups negate their armor with the corrosive projection aura. The blast knockdown proc is annoying when it is something random that throws of your aim, but reliable blast procs might be useful for CC alone.
Does Viral... DO anything? After some unexpected time on a not-yet-unlocked-for-me Ceres killing Kril to I guess farm a Frost for someone (and me, what the heck) I was procing the hell out of Viral from my shiny new (at that point) Soma, but it didn't seem to do much other than a higher than normal damage pop with the icon. I know it's supposed to 50% a HP bar, but it sure didn't seem to; 3-4 full clips after fire mode doesn't seem "half".
Or are bosses "special"? I bet they're "special".
Tangentially related, we saw two Toxic Prosecutors while killing, and... How the hell did I hurt it, when it's immune to non-poison damage and my gun was packing Viral/physical only? I definitely hurt it, but seemed like for a % normal only. Wiki incorrect? I mean I've got the beacons to prove it went toes-up...
Nothing appears to happen on their health bar because maximum health side of the bar shifts at the same time that their current health shifts. If we could see the precise numbers for their health bar, then we'd see that their current health was reduced to 50%.
Notice this trinity procing Viral on herself with castanas. The changing numbers shows that her health is cut in half, but her health bar still appears full while the viral proc is active because the maximum health is shifted at the same time as her current health.
Viral can be nice against bullet sponges because that singular bullet cuts their health in half. From time to kill perspective, it is almost as if you and your allies are inflicting double damage against that target forever more.
As you can see in the Trinity vid, you can sort of proc it a second time to cut their health down to 25%....but you need to wait for the original viral proc to wear off (6 seconds). That's forever in most engagements....although I imagine that you can encounter a ridiculous enemy like that if you fought long enough in an endless defense/survival mission. It is much harder to progress that far now that Trinity no longer grants god mode.
I'm definitely going to play around with my Gilded Truth Burston prime some more. Maybe mix up the damage types a bit. Perhaps try some dual/single elemental builds instead of dual/dual. The Gilded Truth mod itself is pretty nice. When firing with a scroll wheel or with a fire macro, the weapon is pretty much automatic. The AOE burst and self heal are nice....although I don't really care for the stamina boost.
Massive Gammacor buff.
Gammacor itself has been massively buffed so that while it's not the statusmachine that nukor is it has a lot more respectable damage.
Synoid Gammacor is now the new and improved Nukor, with equal status chance and better everything else. Except possibly that it's Magnetic damage instead of radiation.
"The western world sips from a poisonous cocktail: Polarisation, populism, protectionism and post-truth"
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
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Citizen KupoIn between here and thereRegistered Userregular
I hopped into trade chat and purchased myself a Bo Prime handle.
I have now risen to rank 4 in the Arbiters of Hexis and have a shiny new Gilded Truth mod for my Burston Prime.
Combined with the Tethra mods, my Burston Prime status build is now a go. The polarities are a bit messed up since the original elemental mods had "-" polarities, but apparently everything still exactly fits.
I'm presently using Viral/Radiation. Usually one of the bullets in the burst is pretty much guaranteed to rip off half of the target's half with a viral proc and one of the bullets usually procs the radiation effect.
I might swap over to corrosive/blast. Near constant corrosive procs will be useful against more heavily armored foes like those encountered in Orokin Void missions...but usually premade groups negate their armor with the corrosive projection aura. The blast knockdown proc is annoying when it is something random that throws of your aim, but reliable blast procs might be useful for CC alone.
Tangentially related, we saw two Toxic Prosecutors while killing, and... How the hell did I hurt it, when it's immune to non-poison damage and my gun was packing Viral/physical only? I definitely hurt it, but seemed like for a % normal only. Wiki incorrect? I mean I've got the beacons to prove it went toes-up...
I think the wiki is indeed incorrect. I've not seen any notes from DE on it, but I've noticed it as well. Pretty sure that they stealth-changed that at some point, and made it so you could get away with using a combined element to kill them. Certainly a change for the better, as I remember very specifically that used to not be the case, and it was pure elements or bust. That got old and annoying real fast.
I hopped into trade chat and purchased myself a Bo Prime handle.
I have now risen to rank 4 in the Arbiters of Hexis and have a shiny new Gilded Truth mod for my Burston Prime.
Combined with the Tethra mods, my Burston Prime status build is now a go. The polarities are a bit messed up since the original elemental mods had "-" polarities, but apparently everything still exactly fits.
I'm presently using Viral/Radiation. Usually one of the bullets in the burst is pretty much guaranteed to rip off half of the target's half with a viral proc and one of the bullets usually procs the radiation effect.
I might swap over to corrosive/blast. Near constant corrosive procs will be useful against more heavily armored foes like those encountered in Orokin Void missions...but usually premade groups negate their armor with the corrosive projection aura. The blast knockdown proc is annoying when it is something random that throws of your aim, but reliable blast procs might be useful for CC alone.
Tangentially related, we saw two Toxic Prosecutors while killing, and... How the hell did I hurt it, when it's immune to non-poison damage and my gun was packing Viral/physical only? I definitely hurt it, but seemed like for a % normal only. Wiki incorrect? I mean I've got the beacons to prove it went toes-up...
I think the wiki is indeed incorrect. I've not seen any notes from DE on it, but I've noticed it as well. Pretty sure that they stealth-changed that at some point, and made it so you could get away with using a combined element to kill them. Certainly a change for the better, as I remember very specifically that used to not be the case, and it was pure elements or bust. That got old and annoying real fast.
That seems like the worst game design idea ever, so glad they changed it if that's the case. (even then, would still be pretty bad for a non-boss enemy type. What do you do if none of the people on the mission have it?)
A non elemental gun still shat on the protector dudes as did melee so personaly I don't remeber them being a big problem. I think the hardest part was getting them to come out of hiding.
Grass Grows,
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
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NEO|PhyteThey follow the stars, bound together.Strands in a braid till the end.Registered Userregular
Speaking of prosecutors, I've got a Vay Hek key built, we have enough other people with keys handy to do a keyshare at some point?
It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
NEO|PhyteThey follow the stars, bound together.Strands in a braid till the end.Registered Userregular
Vay Hek, not Alad V.
Though once this last invasion pays out I'll have a key for him too.
It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
It's so annoying that you can't fire your weapons on Liset and to do it you need to go into battle. And it's also annoying that you can't downgrade mods.
Ah, I can't read. Hydroid parts drop from him, right? I might be up for that if I have a key lying around. I think I made one then never got around to actually running it.
It's so annoying that you can't fire your weapons on Liset and to do it you need to go into battle. And it's also annoying that you can't downgrade mods.
A firing range would be nice.
Is time a gift or punishment?
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Citizen KupoIn between here and thereRegistered Userregular
It's so annoying that you can't fire your weapons on Liset and to do it you need to go into battle. And it's also annoying that you can't downgrade mods.
A firing range would be nice.
I'd be happy with just being able to open a window, hang out of it and smack random stuff with a melee weapon.
"Drive me closer Ordis, I want to hit them with my Jat Kittag!"
There might not be a better feeling than actually being able to trade off some of your spare prime shit you don't need. I got rid of a boar barrel for a nyx prime part I was missing, and I managed to get a ton t4 cap keys from syndicate stuff and sell 28 of em, which maxed out my trades for the day.
Also, did a run on the survival yester day and picked up a high noon. We had a really easy time going to 40 minutes too. It's nice having a competent team for that kind of thing, I just wish I had more duration on my vauban vortex.
Also, DE better let me keep my Christmas decorations up all year.
Nothing appears to happen on their health bar because maximum health side of the bar shifts at the same time that their current health shifts. If we could see the precise numbers for their health bar, then we'd see that their current health was reduced to 50%.
Notice this trinity procing Viral on herself with castanas. The changing numbers shows that her health is cut in half, but her health bar still appears full while the viral proc is active because the maximum health is shifted at the same time as her current health.
Viral can be nice against bullet sponges because that singular bullet cuts their health in half. From time to kill perspective, it is almost as if you and your allies are inflicting double damage against that target forever more.
As you can see in the Trinity vid, you can sort of proc it a second time to cut their health down to 25%....but you need to wait for the original viral proc to wear off (6 seconds). That's forever in most engagements....although I imagine that you can encounter a ridiculous enemy like that if you fought long enough in an endless defense/survival mission. It is much harder to progress that far now that Trinity no longer grants god mode.
I'm definitely going to play around with my Gilded Truth Burston prime some more. Maybe mix up the damage types a bit. Perhaps try some dual/single elemental builds instead of dual/dual. The Gilded Truth mod itself is pretty nice. When firing with a scroll wheel or with a fire macro, the weapon is pretty much automatic. The AOE burst and self heal are nice....although I don't really care for the stamina boost.
...
So he'd have been twice as much HP? Good christ, that's a lot of ammo. Does explain it; that was enough bullets at once that the 6s never elapsed. (Trigger control is when you hold it down real hard, right?)
Are ammo restores more important than I've been assuming, then? I assume the HP-sponginess just goes up from there.
Unless i have my bosses mixed up, I think krill has some invulnerability phases. Easy to waste ammo when shooting at an invincible target.
Yeah, but once he goes all fire-mode, he's permanently vulnerable. The first "kill the backpack" phase where you knock off the hoses though, no clue why everyone else is shooting him all the time.
Sargas Ruk is the infuriating one with the tiny weak spot that keeps going away. He's the OTHER Grineer dude in full armor with a flamethrower. No no, the other other one.
I've decided to finally give this game a shot... and I've got a noob question: The MK1 weapons, should I bother maxing them for the mastery? Or should I just replace them at the first opportunity?
I've decided to finally give this game a shot... and I've got a noob question: The MK1 weapons, should I bother maxing them for the mastery? Or should I just replace them at the first opportunity?
That's what I did, just to get them out of the way.
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NEO|PhyteThey follow the stars, bound together.Strands in a braid till the end.Registered Userregular
Mastery ranks are the only thing MK1 weapons are good for, if you care about flexing your MR epeen, level them before you replace them.
It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly, broken thing... And take away its pain.
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
The way I look at it is, if you get it to 30 and don't care for its mechanics, and can buy the weapon BP on the market, just sell it to make room. If you want to give it a second try the BP will be there and the mats aren't that rare. If it's a clantech weapon that needs a forma I'm usually a little more forgiving but I'll still sell utter garbage like the mutalist quanta, buzlok, grinlok, etc once they're 30. If it's a Prime I have to really dislike it (Reaper, Sicarus) or have a better version already (Latron).
Frames I don't sell. Until the Prime is built anyway. It means Ash, Banshee, and Trinity just kind of hang out in the armory and do nothing, but frames take too long to build for me to ever feel comfortable just ditching one. Who knows, it might get patched to be amazing?
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I swaped it with hammer shot so I still have corrosive, don't really know if it's worth the lose of crit damage from hammer shot but oh well.
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
My takeaway from this is "math is HARD", I really need to get around to putting more $ into that Serration, and a Soma Prime needs to show up already.
Hehe, my take is soft stats are good base stats are better.
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
I maintain "math is HARD", just give me a button that explodes things.
Anyway, the little research I just have done says it's like a 10% difference or so, so for my purposes, I think I can not worry about it for a while, as I'm just stomping mooks.
It's uh. It's not at 10. In retrospect maybe that IS the next logical money dump...
An endless stream of T2 keys instead of any new tethra mods though =/
Cause that's all you fucking get
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
I just use the twitter alert.
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
I've got one I've been saving for a clan keyshare. Way too many scammers in recruiting to trust pubs right now.
On a higher note, my ship has a snowman in it. He's... cool.
I mentioned using one in the clan chat earlier. The one I use is called WarDroid. I have it set to enable notifications for potatoes, oxium, and a custom filter for the word "infested" which triggers from Alad V stuff. Its set to push notifications so it doesn't drain much battery and I have it make a quick loud alarm noise with vibration that really no one but me notices seeing as how rare my filters are.
I have now risen to rank 4 in the Arbiters of Hexis and have a shiny new Gilded Truth mod for my Burston Prime.
Combined with the Tethra mods, my Burston Prime status build is now a go. The polarities are a bit messed up since the original elemental mods had "-" polarities, but apparently everything still exactly fits.
I'm presently using Viral/Radiation. Usually one of the bullets in the burst is pretty much guaranteed to rip off half of the target's half with a viral proc and one of the bullets usually procs the radiation effect.
I might swap over to corrosive/blast. Near constant corrosive procs will be useful against more heavily armored foes like those encountered in Orokin Void missions...but usually premade groups negate their armor with the corrosive projection aura. The blast knockdown proc is annoying when it is something random that throws of your aim, but reliable blast procs might be useful for CC alone.
Armchair: 4098-3704-2012
Does Viral... DO anything? After some unexpected time on a not-yet-unlocked-for-me Ceres killing Kril to I guess farm a Frost for someone (and me, what the heck) I was procing the hell out of Viral from my shiny new (at that point) Soma, but it didn't seem to do much other than a higher than normal damage pop with the icon. I know it's supposed to 50% a HP bar, but it sure didn't seem to; 3-4 full clips after fire mode doesn't seem "half".
Or are bosses "special"? I bet they're "special".
Tangentially related, we saw two Toxic Prosecutors while killing, and... How the hell did I hurt it, when it's immune to non-poison damage and my gun was packing Viral/physical only? I definitely hurt it, but seemed like for a % normal only. Wiki incorrect? I mean I've got the beacons to prove it went toes-up...
Notice this trinity procing Viral on herself with castanas. The changing numbers shows that her health is cut in half, but her health bar still appears full while the viral proc is active because the maximum health is shifted at the same time as her current health.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PsP05YJWzPc
Viral can be nice against bullet sponges because that singular bullet cuts their health in half. From time to kill perspective, it is almost as if you and your allies are inflicting double damage against that target forever more.
As you can see in the Trinity vid, you can sort of proc it a second time to cut their health down to 25%....but you need to wait for the original viral proc to wear off (6 seconds). That's forever in most engagements....although I imagine that you can encounter a ridiculous enemy like that if you fought long enough in an endless defense/survival mission. It is much harder to progress that far now that Trinity no longer grants god mode.
I'm definitely going to play around with my Gilded Truth Burston prime some more. Maybe mix up the damage types a bit. Perhaps try some dual/single elemental builds instead of dual/dual. The Gilded Truth mod itself is pretty nice. When firing with a scroll wheel or with a fire macro, the weapon is pretty much automatic. The AOE burst and self heal are nice....although I don't really care for the stamina boost.
Armchair: 4098-3704-2012
Gammacor itself has been massively buffed so that while it's not the statusmachine that nukor is it has a lot more respectable damage.
Synoid Gammacor is now the new and improved Nukor, with equal status chance and better everything else. Except possibly that it's Magnetic damage instead of radiation.
-Antje Jackelén, Archbishop of the Church of Sweden
I think the wiki is indeed incorrect. I've not seen any notes from DE on it, but I've noticed it as well. Pretty sure that they stealth-changed that at some point, and made it so you could get away with using a combined element to kill them. Certainly a change for the better, as I remember very specifically that used to not be the case, and it was pure elements or bust. That got old and annoying real fast.
That seems like the worst game design idea ever, so glad they changed it if that's the case. (even then, would still be pretty bad for a non-boss enemy type. What do you do if none of the people on the mission have it?)
Birds Fly,
'til there's Fire in the Sky...
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
So no, I won't be up for that for a while.
Though once this last invasion pays out I'll have a key for him too.
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
A firing range would be nice.
I'd be happy with just being able to open a window, hang out of it and smack random stuff with a melee weapon.
"Drive me closer Ordis, I want to hit them with my Jat Kittag!"
Also, did a run on the survival yester day and picked up a high noon. We had a really easy time going to 40 minutes too. It's nice having a competent team for that kind of thing, I just wish I had more duration on my vauban vortex.
Also, DE better let me keep my Christmas decorations up all year.
...
So he'd have been twice as much HP? Good christ, that's a lot of ammo. Does explain it; that was enough bullets at once that the 6s never elapsed. (Trigger control is when you hold it down real hard, right?)
Are ammo restores more important than I've been assuming, then? I assume the HP-sponginess just goes up from there.
Armchair: 4098-3704-2012
Yeah, but once he goes all fire-mode, he's permanently vulnerable. The first "kill the backpack" phase where you knock off the hoses though, no clue why everyone else is shooting him all the time.
Sargas Ruk is the infuriating one with the tiny weak spot that keeps going away. He's the OTHER Grineer dude in full armor with a flamethrower. No no, the other other one.
Warframe/Steam: NFyt
The Monster Baru Cormorant - Seth Dickinson
Steam: Korvalain
Frames I don't sell. Until the Prime is built anyway. It means Ash, Banshee, and Trinity just kind of hang out in the armory and do nothing, but frames take too long to build for me to ever feel comfortable just ditching one. Who knows, it might get patched to be amazing?