but, you do net about 2K rep per run, so that should only be 6-7 runs if you're honoured with honour hold
Well "only" is not the term I'd use, considering that SH drops approximately Jack and/or Shit for Healadins.
Oh, and who do I have to grind rep with for Coilfang Heroics? Kurenai? Sporeggar?
you'll probably have to run the places that do drop healing plate a lot more
fuck you, beast lord shoulders
Yeah, I think I'll do Steamvault instead. I can grind rep for Cenarion for Heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and also the second boss in Steamvault drops Mask of Penance, which is pwnage.
Why didn't they make the Purple Judgment set a real set, I wonder?
Had to go in there recently on normal to get someone his heroic key. We pulled the packs of 5-6 guys two at a time. Pallytank + mage + warlock + I forget + uber healer = awesome. It was definitely touch and go here and there, but made it less of a bore. And faster!
Yeah, I think I'll do Steamvault instead. I can grind rep for Cenarion for Heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and also the second boss in Steamvault drops Mask of Penance, which is pwnage.
Why didn't they make the Purple Judgment set a real set, I wonder?
Only 3 pieces of that "set" are available in non-heroics, though. All of the D3 sets with actual set bonuses (except for the "Generic Plate", "Generic Mail", "Generic Leather", and "Generic Cloth" sets) drop exclusively in non-heroics.
Yeah, I think I'll do Steamvault instead. I can grind rep for Cenarion for Heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and also the second boss in Steamvault drops Mask of Penance, which is pwnage.
Why didn't they make the Purple Judgment set a real set, I wonder?
Only 3 pieces of that "set" are available in non-heroics, though. All of the D3 sets with actual set bonuses (except for the "Generic Plate", "Generic Mail", "Generic Leather", and "Generic Cloth" sets) drop exclusively in non-heroics.
Right, but the pally set is shit for Holies.
Also, Re: The mace that drops in SH -- I have The Essence Focuser, which is actually slightly better, and bought right off the AH.
So really SH has no value to me at all on non-heroic difficulty. I don't know if it drops anything good on Heroic though.
Yeah, I think I'll do Steamvault instead. I can grind rep for Cenarion for Heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and also the second boss in Steamvault drops Mask of Penance, which is pwnage.
Why didn't they make the Purple Judgment set a real set, I wonder?
Only 3 pieces of that "set" are available in non-heroics, though. All of the D3 sets with actual set bonuses (except for the "Generic Plate", "Generic Mail", "Generic Leather", and "Generic Cloth" sets) drop exclusively in non-heroics.
Right, but the pally set is shit for Holies.
Also, Re: The mace that drops in SH -- I have The Essence Focuser, which is actually slightly better, and bought right off the AH.
So really SH has no value to me at all on non-heroic difficulty. I don't know if it drops anything good on Heroic though.
Browsing through the drop lists, I'd say: not much. Only Kargath seems to drop any unique-to-Heroic gear, and his paladin boots are prot-only stuff.
is there anything like truesilver BP at 60+ levels?
Well, there's the figurine of the collossus, but that's at level 70 (Shattered Halls drop.) I've been fighting a dozen mobs at once and my health was going up instead of down.
The Righteous set is lacking in stamina, but the two piece bonus is awesome for tanking Black Morass. Forget putting someone on adds; just tank them all, and let hunters and warlocks play with multishot and seed of corruption.
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If this had been an actual alien invasion, you would have protected as many as SOME of your population. Congratulations.
Well the last 2 weeks have been really fun for me. I broke off from the "progression" kara group and started my own more casual group. Within the first 2 weeks, we are already at the Curator.
We were able to 1 shot Wizard of Oz the first week and then 1 shot Romullo and Julianne the second week. Tonight were gonna have another go a Curator. We were able to get him down to 50% last thursday (both mages failed to realize that he was immune to arcane damage :P).
Overall, I must say that I really enjoy main tanking. I was finally able to reach uncrushable (with holy shield) and over 11000 health
The shoulders from Heroic Ramparts are good for healing.
Another reason to grind Honor Hold rep is to get the spell damage sword, for those times you need to grind with your holy paladin. I would consider it better than the mace from Lower City.
You can still get the normal sets in Heroics. We got the rogue set shoulders off the last boss in Heroic Sethikk Halls when we went to get a druid guild mate her epic flight form.
I don't even go to kara anymore, the only thing I'd still want from there would be rytsynn's pendant, but this has never ever dropped in the months I was there :x
I'm thinking about getting the PVP necklace and a nice +damage socket instead. Although that pendant is soooo awesome x.x
what does a pally do to become immune to crushing blows?
You can become immune to crushing blows before setting foot into Kara. The only problem is that you sacrifice a lot of stamina to achieve it (around 10,000 HP). Once you begin to receive Kara loot, you can replace +Dodge, +Agil, +Def gems with the 12 Stamina Gems. Also, the biggest help to reaching un-crushability is the Libram of Repentance which is obtained from Heroic Badges.
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
You get your dodge, parry, and shield block % so high that, when combined with Holy Shield and the miss chance, they add up to more than 100%. No room left for crushing blows.
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If this had been an actual alien invasion, you would have protected as many as SOME of your population. Congratulations.
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
The painful part is finding somebody who'll make it for less than 1k (at least on my server). None of the blacksmiths in the guild have found the recipe yet.
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
The painful part is finding somebody who'll make it for less than 1k (at least on my server). None of the blacksmiths in the guild have found the recipe yet.
Ouch, I had a blacksmith in our guild do it and so I had to provide mats, and just take him on a nether farming run.
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
The painful part is finding somebody who'll make it for less than 1k (at least on my server). None of the blacksmiths in the guild have found the recipe yet.
Ouch, I had a blacksmith in our guild do it and so I had to provide mats, and just take him on a nether farming run.
Yeah, I'd gladly do it for the mats and tanking for them on a heroic run of their choice, but everybody wants to get to 300 riding so they can farm for the netherdrake.
There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
The painful part is finding somebody who'll make it for less than 1k (at least on my server). None of the blacksmiths in the guild have found the recipe yet.
Ouch, I had a blacksmith in our guild do it and so I had to provide mats, and just take him on a nether farming run.
What's his name? I've been looking into getting those made, just haven't really dicked with looking at the realm forums to see who can make them.
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There was a post floating around on blizzard's paladin boards on how to get to 11.5k health and be uncrushable without setting foot in kara. The main problem was it required an epic crafting recipe (bracers of the green fortress) and access to enchants from AQ (+dodge to back).
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
The painful part is finding somebody who'll make it for less than 1k (at least on my server). None of the blacksmiths in the guild have found the recipe yet.
Ouch, I had a blacksmith in our guild do it and so I had to provide mats, and just take him on a nether farming run.
What's his name? I've been looking into getting those made, just haven't really dicked with looking at the realm forums to see who can make them.
Lichkiller. Pretty nice guy, and he's not gonna screw ya.
Im doing really good right now. My Kara group was able to 2-shot the Curator. In the first go, healers were running our of mana. We then handed out healing assignments and it was cake.
Priest --> Main Tank
Pally --> Spam Flash of Light
Druid --> Range DPS
From there, we went to pay the Shade a visit and were able to get him down to 35% on the first try. After 3 attempts (1st one was me lagging out and running right into him), I decided that we should all head over to the chess event for some fun and free epix :P
That brings me to my next question. I know that spell damage is needed for pally tanks; however, in some fights the extra mitigation would help. What enchant should I place on my newly acquired King's Defender
You should shard it, because it's useless to you unless you've got two hundred spellpower on your other gear, in which case you'd be a horrible, horrible tank.
Seriously, should have let a warrior have it. The only fights I can think of where it'd be usable are Murmur and the ogre in Shattered Halls.
You should shard it, because it's useless to you unless you've got two hundred spellpower on your other gear, in which case you'd be a horrible, horrible tank.
Seriously, should have let a warrior have it. The only fights I can think of where it'd be usable are Murmur and the ogre in Shattered Halls.
We dont have a warrior in my Kara group:
Prot Pally - MT
Feral Druid - OT
Holy Priest
Resto Druid
Pally - (Says hes holy but I suspect that hes ret O_o)
Mage x2
Warlock
Hunter
Rogue
You should shard it, because it's useless to you unless you've got two hundred spellpower on your other gear, in which case you'd be a horrible, horrible tank.
Seriously, should have let a warrior have it. The only fights I can think of where it'd be usable are Murmur and the ogre in Shattered Halls.
Pally - (Says hes holy but I suspect that hes ret O_o)
Just wanted to say with my level 47 alt, I am LOVING being a prot pally. Just got my thrash blade, and am hoping to get some sick moments with the Thrash + Reckoning + Windfury (have a same-level shammy friend).
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You should shard it, because it's useless to you unless you've got two hundred spellpower on your other gear, in which case you'd be a horrible, horrible tank.
Seriously, should have let a warrior have it. The only fights I can think of where it'd be usable are Murmur and the ogre in Shattered Halls.
We dont have a warrior in my Kara group:
Prot Pally - MT
Feral Druid - OT
Holy Priest
Resto Druid
Pally - (Says hes holy but I suspect that hes ret O_o)
Mage x2
Warlock
Hunter
Rogue
Your weapon really needs to be a source of spell damage. Spell damage = TPS = Higher threat ceilings = faster kills. On Mags last night, I switched over to DPS gear for the first add. It's only about +480 spell damage but I was able to sustain 1100 tps and peak out at 1220 tps on the first add. It makes a differance.
You should shard it, because it's useless to you unless you've got two hundred spellpower on your other gear, in which case you'd be a horrible, horrible tank.
Seriously, should have let a warrior have it. The only fights I can think of where it'd be usable are Murmur and the ogre in Shattered Halls.
We dont have a warrior in my Kara group:
Prot Pally - MT
Feral Druid - OT
Holy Priest
Resto Druid
Pally - (Says hes holy but I suspect that hes ret O_o)
Mage x2
Warlock
Hunter
Rogue
Your weapon really needs to be a source of spell damage. Spell damage = TPS = Higher threat ceilings = faster kills. On Mags last night, I switched over to DPS gear for the first add. It's only about +480 spell damage but I was able to sustain 1100 tps and peak out at 1220 tps on the first add. It makes a differance.
Depends on the situation. I carry the Honor Hold sword and a Dragonheart Flameshield for high threat situations, but I tank most things with a Sun Eater and Aldor Legacy defender. Paladins have a lot of options for threat generation, and unless I have mana issues or framerate issues, I never lose threat, even with only 57 spell damage.
It's best to have the option to itemize in scalable threat whenever the situation merits it.
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And there's no better way to earn rep with Honor Hold than running Shattered Halls? That's gonna take fucking Forever.
Poo.
but, you do net about 2K rep per run, so that should only be 6-7 runs if you're honoured with honour hold
Well "only" is not the term I'd use, considering that SH drops approximately Jack and/or Shit for Healadins.
Oh, and who do I have to grind rep with for Coilfang Heroics? Kurenai? Sporeggar?
Coilfang - Cenarion Expedition
Tempest Keep - Sha'tar
Auchindoun - Lower City
Whichever rep you get for running normals there is the rep you need for the heroic key.
you'll probably have to run the places that do drop healing plate a lot more
fuck you, beast lord shoulders
Yeah, I think I'll do Steamvault instead. I can grind rep for Cenarion for Heroic Underbog and Slave Pens, and also the second boss in Steamvault drops Mask of Penance, which is pwnage.
Why didn't they make the Purple Judgment set a real set, I wonder?
There is a rather nice healing mace off the last boss of SH.
If you don't care for SH, you've never done it with a prot paladin and a warlock.
alright guys here comes 19 trash pulls
okay boss
ooookay only 23 more pulls till boss #2
Once you get to the gladiator pulls, it's basically over. Do it with a pally tank and you'll do it in 30-45 minutes.
Right, but the pally set is shit for Holies.
Also, Re: The mace that drops in SH -- I have The Essence Focuser, which is actually slightly better, and bought right off the AH.
So really SH has no value to me at all on non-heroic difficulty. I don't know if it drops anything good on Heroic though.
Well, there's the figurine of the collossus, but that's at level 70 (Shattered Halls drop.) I've been fighting a dozen mobs at once and my health was going up instead of down.
The Righteous set is lacking in stamina, but the two piece bonus is awesome for tanking Black Morass. Forget putting someone on adds; just tank them all, and let hunters and warlocks play with multishot and seed of corruption.
We were able to 1 shot Wizard of Oz the first week and then 1 shot Romullo and Julianne the second week. Tonight were gonna have another go a Curator. We were able to get him down to 50% last thursday (both mages failed to realize that he was immune to arcane damage :P).
Overall, I must say that I really enjoy main tanking. I was finally able to reach uncrushable (with holy shield) and over 11000 health
Another reason to grind Honor Hold rep is to get the spell damage sword, for those times you need to grind with your holy paladin. I would consider it better than the mace from Lower City.
You can still get the normal sets in Heroics. We got the rogue set shoulders off the last boss in Heroic Sethikk Halls when we went to get a druid guild mate her epic flight form.
I'm thinking about getting the PVP necklace and a nice +damage socket instead. Although that pendant is soooo awesome x.x
You can become immune to crushing blows before setting foot into Kara. The only problem is that you sacrifice a lot of stamina to achieve it (around 10,000 HP). Once you begin to receive Kara loot, you can replace +Dodge, +Agil, +Def gems with the 12 Stamina Gems. Also, the biggest help to reaching un-crushability is the Libram of Repentance which is obtained from Heroic Badges.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=91630149
I still use those bracers and they aren't insanely painful to make except for the primal life. But if you go to the dead marsh section of ZM, with an herbalist, then you'll find primal life plentiful.
The painful part is finding somebody who'll make it for less than 1k (at least on my server). None of the blacksmiths in the guild have found the recipe yet.
36 minutes from zone-in to Kargath dead. This pull was both sides of Centurions + a dog pack. Mortal strike on me made it fun.
Ouch, I had a blacksmith in our guild do it and so I had to provide mats, and just take him on a nether farming run.
Yeah, I'd gladly do it for the mats and tanking for them on a heroic run of their choice, but everybody wants to get to 300 riding so they can farm for the netherdrake.
Lichkiller. Pretty nice guy, and he's not gonna screw ya.
Priest --> Main Tank
Pally --> Spam Flash of Light
Druid --> Range DPS
From there, we went to pay the Shade a visit and were able to get him down to 35% on the first try. After 3 attempts (1st one was me lagging out and running right into him), I decided that we should all head over to the chess event for some fun and free epix :P
That brings me to my next question. I know that spell damage is needed for pally tanks; however, in some fights the extra mitigation would help. What enchant should I place on my newly acquired King's Defender
Seriously, should have let a warrior have it. The only fights I can think of where it'd be usable are Murmur and the ogre in Shattered Halls.
We dont have a warrior in my Kara group:
Prot Pally - MT
Feral Druid - OT
Holy Priest
Resto Druid
Pally - (Says hes holy but I suspect that hes ret O_o)
Mage x2
Warlock
Hunter
Rogue
There's an easy way to check that now.
Your weapon really needs to be a source of spell damage. Spell damage = TPS = Higher threat ceilings = faster kills. On Mags last night, I switched over to DPS gear for the first add. It's only about +480 spell damage but I was able to sustain 1100 tps and peak out at 1220 tps on the first add. It makes a differance.
Depends on the situation. I carry the Honor Hold sword and a Dragonheart Flameshield for high threat situations, but I tank most things with a Sun Eater and Aldor Legacy defender. Paladins have a lot of options for threat generation, and unless I have mana issues or framerate issues, I never lose threat, even with only 57 spell damage.
It's best to have the option to itemize in scalable threat whenever the situation merits it.