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Car issues, who will screw me least?

azith28azith28 Registered User regular

I have a 2002 Toyota Camry. a little over 55k miles on it.
So Saturday evening i was coming home from work when my Check engine light came on. The next day i went to autozone and got them to pull the error codes. P0446 ....EVAP System Vent Control Circuit. First thing i tried was replacing the gas cap, but as of This morning, its still lit. I'm aware that this could be anything from the sensors to the Catalyitic converter...and its potentially a rather expensive investigation and fix.

The good news is that my registration this year required an e-check, so if worse comes to worse, i could ignore the problem probably for at least another year as it skips 1 or 2 years usually between times it requires me to e-check again. Given the age of the car, its possible other problems will make replacing it a more cost-effective solution.

If however I do have to get this taken care of, I'd like opinions about various chain repair places if you have had work on this done before and if you felt you were screwed into paying more then you needed to for the work.

Thanks

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  • Dr. FrenchensteinDr. Frenchenstein Registered User regular
    chain places can be just as shady as local guys, it all depends on who is running the place.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    What color was the light? Red means pull over immediately and fix the problem. Orange means "hey the onboard computer notices something is not quite right" I had a loose gasket that fixed itself after the sensors reset after a few hundred miles.

    A breakdown:

    Avoid national chains, they will fuck you over
    Local mechanics, get a word of mouth from a friend or family, you run a huge risk
    Dealerships, can be a bit expensive, but usually won't fuck with you because they want you to buy cars in the future

    I never fuck around anymore, always the dealership, pay the 25% premium, not worth the hassle IMO.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Orange. as i said, i had them pull the code. the problem as described by the internet is more of an emmisions problem that might cause a slight drop in fuel efficiency and my e-check to fail. 25% premium sounds okay until you realize this could be a 1-2k repair job. I've heard some horror stories about the catalyic converter being a very expensive part.

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  • MyiagrosMyiagros Registered User regular
    On a Toyota Camry I would not expect that to cost more than a few hundred at most.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah that's true, try to get word of mouth. Maybe have a shop take a look at it but not repair it? It'll probably cost you to do that though.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    I wouldn't go in there assuming it is the cat, those things are supposed to last like 100K. Googling the code and make/model point to a lot of people talking about the vapor canister ($250-300 at rockauto means this is a pretty pricey part). Thing is it may one of the various valves involved in the evap system (each would be way cheaper), or it may be the O2 sensor like you said. It could be any number of things (pdf link).

    If you know what is wrong, then the cheapest way to go about it is call around shops and ask them how much for that particular job and pick among them, but if you're wrong and it's still throwing engine codes then you'll still need someone else to diagnose and repair or just live with it.

    Word of mouth is good. Ask your co-workers and friends who have 10+ year old cars that maybe aren't so clean and are dinged up. You could try Yelp, but I find Yelp pretty hit or miss.

    A sign of a cheap mechanic would be dozens of janky 10-20 year old cars tightly parked together outside the garage and in the back, but he may just tell you to live with it for now and the day of e-testing to fill up with super, throw in some bottles of fuel additive, and have autozone clear the codes before the test.

  • DivideByZeroDivideByZero Social Justice Blackguard Registered User regular
    I had a similar error code pop up on my 07 Camry a few years back, something in the EVAP system. shop wanted like $600 to fix it, so I held off to get a second opinion. While mulling over my options that week, the light went off and hasn't come back since.

    First they came for the Muslims, and we said NOT TODAY, MOTHERFUCKERS
  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    FYI-
    It might be different in your state, but generally Registration stickers have nothing to do with the state of the car.

    INSPECTION stickers on the other hand. Make sure you don't need both, cause then you can still be pulled over.

  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    phew... light went out. gas cap replacement musta kicked in. Thanks for the help guys. so glad this was easily fixable.

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  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    azith28 wrote: »
    phew... light went out. gas cap replacement musta kicked in. Thanks for the help guys. so glad this was easily fixable.

    For future reference when you pull the code you have to clear it in order to get the light to go out. Otherwise it takes a while to reset on it's on. Generally for the orange light stuff you want to just clear the code after you've done whatever you're going to do. If it comes back on then get it checked out, if not then you're good to go.

    "The world is a mess, and I just need to rule it" - Dr Horrible
  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    I did ask the autozone guy to reset it but they said that the option was removed from the computer so they couldnt do that anymore. I was going to disconnect the battery to try and reset it before i brought it anywhere just to make sure but im glad it took care of itself.

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  • illigillig Registered User regular
    Do yourself a favor and purchase an OBD II dongle that connects to your phone - cheap Chinese clones of these cost $10. You use these with a phone app like Torque to scan and reset codes in the comfort of your driveway.

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