I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
Also, it's not really a given specific example that's a problem, but the overall trend as a whole. You really have to keep a wide viewpoint, otherwise some of the points look kind of silly/negligible.
On general Overwatch news, I wish Tracer wasn't the face of Overwatch, essentially. I like her, so don't want others to play as her, I want to be the only Tracer master :P
I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
On general Overwatch news, I wish Tracer wasn't the face of Overwatch, essentially. I like her, so don't want others to play as her, I want to be the only Tracer master :P
I would assume that a lot of people will try her out, only to fail. She seems like the hardest hero to master, since she will die easily and you need to learn when and where to blink as well, otherwise your opponents will just read you and fire at the point you are going to blink before you're even there.
I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
On general Overwatch news, I wish Tracer wasn't the face of Overwatch, essentially. I like her, so don't want others to play as her, I want to be the only Tracer master :P
I would assume that a lot of people will try her out, only to fail. She seems like the hardest hero to master, since she will die easily and you need to learn when and where to blink as well, otherwise your opponents will just read you and fire at the point you are going to blink before you're even there.
Reaper is going to be neck-to-neck with Tracer on that.
I think Reaper and Hanzo will be getting a lot of play, plus Widowmaker for the sniper specialists.
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tb said beta JAN 2015? I remember hearing the year, didn't know about the month.
I don't really see the reason not to release the beta soon. The game looks pretty finished as far as assets go, so they should launch beta to gather feeback and change the game accordingly.
tb said beta JAN 2015? I remember hearing the year, didn't know about the month.
I don't really see the reason not to release the beta soon. The game looks pretty finished as far as assets go, so they should launch beta to gather feeback and change the game accordingly.
And if they do it like Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm, launching the beta sooner means they start bringing in the new revenue stream sooner.
I talked with one of the store employees, and when I balked at the price, he also talked about making the blue stripes translucent and also having a glowing Overwatch logo on the base.
Honestly, I'd assume any british accent was actually a british person until proven otherwise, it seems like faking it would be more work.
It doesn't. Brits spot fakes a mile off. Brits doing American? Flies under the radar. We're like vocal ninjas, man.
It's not as stealthy as you think. :P
Hugh Laurie's is goddamned good though.
Years and years ago I watched Black Adder as a kid/teenager.
Then much later I watched a few seasons of House as an adult.
Not one year ago I decided to look up the House actor Hugh Laurie on Wikipedia.
I then, literally, spent several minutes going through the edit history. I was trying to figure out at what point it'd been vandalized because I refused to believe he was the same person in both shows.
I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
On general Overwatch news, I wish Tracer wasn't the face of Overwatch, essentially. I like her, so don't want others to play as her, I want to be the only Tracer master :P
I would assume that a lot of people will try her out, only to fail. She seems like the hardest hero to master, since she will die easily and you need to learn when and where to blink as well, otherwise your opponents will just read you and fire at the point you are going to blink before you're even there.
She very much reminds me of TF2's scout in that I really, really like the play style and will never in a million years be good at it.
I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
People like me don't complain about it, because there isn't a pattern of repeated unnecessary sexualizing of men in video games, but certainly people noticed that Raiden was fairly sexualized (which became even more obvious when you ran around as him completely fucking naked for a while) and homophobes complained about being forced to play a sexy man. We saw similar complaints about the new Dante.
There is however some not inconsiderable tendency to think that everything that is sexy or sexual is unnecessarily so. Like, I'm a dancer, I work with a lot of female dancers/acrobats/gymnasts etc. When they exercise/practice/rehearse/perform, their clothing is often VERY skimpy and/or formfitting. Lycra shorts or yoga pants and a sportsbra or a tank top are pretty much par for the course. They're not doing it for men's enjoyment (heck half the time there's not a straight man anywhere nearby) or even to be sexy for themselves; they're doing it because it's perfectly reasonable athletic wear if you need full range of motion. When women are given inhuman proportions or are spilling out of their tops yeah that shit is silly fanservice for immature little boys and you do geniunely have some of that here in Overwatch (cough Widowmaker cough) but Tracer's leggings are, in my experience, exactly the kind of clothing I see women wearing every day because it's comfortable and functional.
I'm way more put off by the weird insistence on putting women in high heels. Like, you can't say that you're putting a lady in a catsuit to help her mobility and then make her teeter around on stilettos. Even small heels make running near impossible, and you're wearing them in combat? Duuuuuuumb.
I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
People like me don't complain about it, because there isn't a pattern of repeated unnecessary sexualizing of men in video games, but certainly people noticed that Raiden was fairly sexualized (which became even more obvious when you ran around as him completely fucking naked for a while) and homophobes complained about being forced to play a sexy man. We saw similar complaints about the new Dante.
There is however some not inconsiderable tendency to think that everything that is sexy or sexual is unnecessarily so. Like, I'm a dancer, I work with a lot of female dancers/acrobats/gymnasts etc. When they exercise/practice/rehearse/perform, their clothing is often VERY skimpy and/or formfitting. Lycra shorts or yoga pants and a sportsbra or a tank top are pretty much par for the course. They're not doing it for men's enjoyment (heck half the time there's not a straight man anywhere nearby) or even to be sexy for themselves; they're doing it because it's perfectly reasonable athletic wear if you need full range of motion. When women are given inhuman proportions or are spilling out of their tops yeah that shit is silly fanservice for immature little boys and you do geniunely have some of that here in Overwatch (cough Widowmaker cough) but Tracer's leggings are, in my experience, exactly the kind of clothing I see women wearing every day because it's comfortable and functional.
I'm way more put off by the weird insistence on putting women in high heels. Like, you can't say that you're putting a lady in a catsuit to help her mobility and then make her teeter around on stilettos. Even small heels make running near impossible, and you're wearing them in combat? Duuuuuuumb.
Hahaha I had not even noticed that.
3 of the 5 female characters have high heels. So dumb. I guess they gotta jack up them fine asses they so carefully modeled.
The time traveler wearing tight clothes and being female isn't fundamentally sexist.
The coincidence that consistently the women in a game just always seem to be time travelers who have to wear tight clothes... That's sexist.
I don't think she has to wear tight clothes because she's a time traveler; she's wearing those leggings because she's running and jumping and leggings are comfortable athletic wear. I mean yeah so are basketball shorts or whatever but in my experience many if not most women would choose leggings or lycra shorts as their default exercise wear (I could easily be wrong about this as most women I know, as explained, are dancers/acrobats/gymbasts so aren't really representative of women as a whole). I mean yes it's true that men don't dress the same way so you could maybe argue that the whole fashion industry is sexist (and you'd be right!) but I don't think that's on games.
Also as far as tight tights go I think Reaper has Tracer beat by a mile. Look at them thighs! In fact there are a lot of similarities between Reaper's and Tracer's designs (demure-ish top, tight pants).
Honestly, I'd assume any british accent was actually a british person until proven otherwise, it seems like faking it would be more work.
It doesn't. Brits spot fakes a mile off. Brits doing American? Flies under the radar. We're like vocal ninjas, man.
It's not as stealthy as you think. :P
Hugh Laurie's is goddamned good though.
High Laurie's is great right until you stop to wonder where his accent is actually from. It kind of smears around the northeast.
Now the truly awe-inspiring accent is Idris Elba's
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I wonder what happened with Tracer's design. It's like they set out to give her a pilot motif because of her background and they gave her the sweet jacket, then something in their brain refused to let them make a female character that wasn't aggressively sexualised and she ended up in those incongruous orange leggings.
I don't think leggings necessarily mean aggressively sexual, or even sexual at all. I'm curious if anyone complains about Raiden's tight suit and buttocks as a sexualization? They might have other complaints but I'm specifically talking about sexualization of the character. http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091019140715/metalgear/images/9/9f/Model_Raiden.jpg
On general Overwatch news, I wish Tracer wasn't the face of Overwatch, essentially. I like her, so don't want others to play as her, I want to be the only Tracer master :P
I would assume that a lot of people will try her out, only to fail. She seems like the hardest hero to master, since she will die easily and you need to learn when and where to blink as well, otherwise your opponents will just read you and fire at the point you are going to blink before you're even there.
She very much reminds me of TF2's scout in that I really, really like the play style and will never in a million years be good at it.
Same, though I am a pretty good Scout player(or at least I think so). But it's a shame that you can't use her blink to jump into the air, although they might change it during beta.
Also, enough people in the U.S. move around to the point where a smearing like that is actually pretty common.
And then you have military accents.
You stay in long enough and you end up picking up colloquialisms from all over and accents start blurring.
I know a lot of people in the military use southern terms a lot, even if they're from the north. The military (well army at any rate) has a weird kind of dialect.
And let us not forget that there is a (by and large) North American accent. I think most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between an American or Canadian by the sound of their voice.
From what I've been told, Brits enjoy doing American accents because it very "open" and "laid back". Americans doing a British accent is kind of the reverse. As my instructor kept telling me you got to keep your mouth "small".
Heh, I've also been told an Australian accent is just British being spoken with that same "open" and "laid back" manner of the American accent. :razz:
One of the biggest problems foreigners will run in to while doing an American accent is that they'll lack a dialect. So they sound American, but not quite. At least to my ears it is super noticeable.
But then again I have a book on accents literally sitting on my desk, so I may not be your average person when it comes to the topic. :biggrin:
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Regional accents have distinctly and massively flattened in the US. It's very interesting; go back to the 40s-50s, and we just... Sounded different.
My favorite example is actually any film of Richard Feynman (the physicist) speaking. That thick accent is just gone today, from easier travel, wider communication, the "newscaster accent", etc. (See also: Archie Bunker.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCjODeoLVw
is a good example, as well as being decently educational.
Edit: ... Um. No I'm just here for the accents actually, carry on.
That said, I do know people with noticeable accents. More noticeable than his, for sure. I do software for a living, so I bet you can guess what accent.
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I remember hearing somewhere that the "American" accent is actually much closer to the original English dialect than what is currently spoken in England. It had something to do with a dialectical shift in how the letter 'R' was pronounced (or rather, not). As in, the English have softened its pronunciation so much that it may as well not exist in most cases.
Then again, the argument is pretty oversimplified. I mean, let's be honest, whatever English people speak now, it's going to be very different from the English that they spoke 200 years ago, as they have each evolved in their own distinct ways.
Also, enough people in the U.S. move around to the point where a smearing like that is actually pretty common.
And then you have military accents.
You stay in long enough and you end up picking up colloquialisms from all over and accents start blurring.
I know a lot of people in the military use southern terms a lot, even if they're from the north. The military (well army at any rate) has a weird kind of dialect.
Somewhat guilty as charged. There are three things I most definitely picked up after being stationed in the south east for a number of years: a love for sweet tea, a greater love for fried good, and "Y'all"... only said with a California accent. And I don't use west coast slang/colloquialisms anymore personally, though I still pick up on them.
And yeah, if you're American military, you start learning southern colloquialisms even when you don't speak them, because other people will be using them.
I remember hearing somewhere that the "American" accent is actually much closer to the original English dialect than what is currently spoken in England. It had something to do with a dialectical shift in how the letter 'R' was pronounced (or rather, not). As in, the English have softened its pronunciation so much that it may as well not exist in most cases.
Then again, the argument is pretty oversimplified. I mean, let's be honest, whatever English people speak now, it's going to be very different from the English that they spoke 200 years ago, as they have each evolved in their own distinct ways.
This is actually correct. There's a particular US dialect (Appalachian somewhere, I believe? I forget exactly.) that's almost EXACTLY Elizabethan English, whereas over there there's been the shift you describe. It's just fascinating, really; it means many of the puns, dirty jokes, etc in Shakespeare simply don't work as many people expect them to be said, but the second you swap the accents, there you are.
Also, Feynman was AWESOME. Brilliant, funny, personable; I really do recommend his books/autobiographies, if just for the insider view of Los Alamos, WW2, etc. And any of his lectures are a good listen, as well, amazingly informative, but presented in a very accessible way.
Chinese has a similar thing going on. Cantonese and Taiwanese both sound more like ancient Chinese than Mandarin does, so old Tang dynasty poems actually rhyme better if you use those vs Mandarin
I will say there are a lot of characters in some of those cinematic group shots that are catching my eye. The announced heroes look great, and fun, but I have a feeling that Desperado guy is going to be crazy popular. And the Duke looking 'standard solider' with the blue trench coat and rifle looks right up my alley.
Blizzard's team-based FPS Overwatch, which was announced with great fanfare at BlizzCon, may end up with an entirely new title by the time it's rolled out to the public. It turns out that an application for a trademark on the word "Overwatch" has already been filed for a paintball-related game/smartphone app—you can check that out here, should you so desire—and the attorney examining Blizzard's filing made a mistake in letting it through.
Considering Overwatch was a bit of a dull name for a super hero shooter I'm kinda glad they're going to change it (though I guess Blizzard might just bank roll buying the right to the name too).
Considering Overwatch was a bit of a dull name for a super hero shooter I'm kinda glad they're going to change it (though I guess Blizzard might just bank roll buying the right to the name too).
Considering how much they invested into the lore and the name already, and that it's Blizzard, I really do expect them to just buy the name lol. Who knows though, they might come up with something snazzier.
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Also, it's not really a given specific example that's a problem, but the overall trend as a whole. You really have to keep a wide viewpoint, otherwise some of the points look kind of silly/negligible.
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Reaper is going to be neck-to-neck with Tracer on that.
Let's wait and see.
I don't really see the reason not to release the beta soon. The game looks pretty finished as far as assets go, so they should launch beta to gather feeback and change the game accordingly.
And if they do it like Hearthstone and Heroes of the Storm, launching the beta sooner means they start bringing in the new revenue stream sooner.
I talked with one of the store employees, and when I balked at the price, he also talked about making the blue stripes translucent and also having a glowing Overwatch logo on the base.
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Years and years ago I watched Black Adder as a kid/teenager.
Then much later I watched a few seasons of House as an adult.
Not one year ago I decided to look up the House actor Hugh Laurie on Wikipedia.
I then, literally, spent several minutes going through the edit history. I was trying to figure out at what point it'd been vandalized because I refused to believe he was the same person in both shows.
She very much reminds me of TF2's scout in that I really, really like the play style and will never in a million years be good at it.
There is however some not inconsiderable tendency to think that everything that is sexy or sexual is unnecessarily so. Like, I'm a dancer, I work with a lot of female dancers/acrobats/gymnasts etc. When they exercise/practice/rehearse/perform, their clothing is often VERY skimpy and/or formfitting. Lycra shorts or yoga pants and a sportsbra or a tank top are pretty much par for the course. They're not doing it for men's enjoyment (heck half the time there's not a straight man anywhere nearby) or even to be sexy for themselves; they're doing it because it's perfectly reasonable athletic wear if you need full range of motion. When women are given inhuman proportions or are spilling out of their tops yeah that shit is silly fanservice for immature little boys and you do geniunely have some of that here in Overwatch (cough Widowmaker cough) but Tracer's leggings are, in my experience, exactly the kind of clothing I see women wearing every day because it's comfortable and functional.
I'm way more put off by the weird insistence on putting women in high heels. Like, you can't say that you're putting a lady in a catsuit to help her mobility and then make her teeter around on stilettos. Even small heels make running near impossible, and you're wearing them in combat? Duuuuuuumb.
The coincidence that consistently the women in a game just always seem to be time travelers who have to wear tight clothes... That's sexist.
Hahaha I had not even noticed that.
3 of the 5 female characters have high heels. So dumb. I guess they gotta jack up them fine asses they so carefully modeled.
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I don't think she has to wear tight clothes because she's a time traveler; she's wearing those leggings because she's running and jumping and leggings are comfortable athletic wear. I mean yeah so are basketball shorts or whatever but in my experience many if not most women would choose leggings or lycra shorts as their default exercise wear (I could easily be wrong about this as most women I know, as explained, are dancers/acrobats/gymbasts so aren't really representative of women as a whole). I mean yes it's true that men don't dress the same way so you could maybe argue that the whole fashion industry is sexist (and you'd be right!) but I don't think that's on games.
Also as far as tight tights go I think Reaper has Tracer beat by a mile. Look at them thighs! In fact there are a lot of similarities between Reaper's and Tracer's designs (demure-ish top, tight pants).
High Laurie's is great right until you stop to wonder where his accent is actually from. It kind of smears around the northeast.
Now the truly awe-inspiring accent is Idris Elba's
Like, we can't tell our own regional accents apart?
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Most people can't, I know I have a god awful ear for accents.
And then you have military accents.
You stay in long enough and you end up picking up colloquialisms from all over and accents start blurring.
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Then, 15 min with lots of different characters (and sucking at all of them):
I know a lot of people in the military use southern terms a lot, even if they're from the north. The military (well army at any rate) has a weird kind of dialect.
And let us not forget that there is a (by and large) North American accent. I think most people would be hard pressed to tell the difference between an American or Canadian by the sound of their voice.
From what I've been told, Brits enjoy doing American accents because it very "open" and "laid back". Americans doing a British accent is kind of the reverse. As my instructor kept telling me you got to keep your mouth "small".
Heh, I've also been told an Australian accent is just British being spoken with that same "open" and "laid back" manner of the American accent. :razz:
One of the biggest problems foreigners will run in to while doing an American accent is that they'll lack a dialect. So they sound American, but not quite. At least to my ears it is super noticeable.
But then again I have a book on accents literally sitting on my desk, so I may not be your average person when it comes to the topic. :biggrin:
My favorite example is actually any film of Richard Feynman (the physicist) speaking. That thick accent is just gone today, from easier travel, wider communication, the "newscaster accent", etc. (See also: Archie Bunker.)
is a good example, as well as being decently educational.
Edit: ... Um. No I'm just here for the accents actually, carry on.
That said, I do know people with noticeable accents. More noticeable than his, for sure. I do software for a living, so I bet you can guess what accent.
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Then again, the argument is pretty oversimplified. I mean, let's be honest, whatever English people speak now, it's going to be very different from the English that they spoke 200 years ago, as they have each evolved in their own distinct ways.
Somewhat guilty as charged. There are three things I most definitely picked up after being stationed in the south east for a number of years: a love for sweet tea, a greater love for fried good, and "Y'all"... only said with a California accent. And I don't use west coast slang/colloquialisms anymore personally, though I still pick up on them.
And yeah, if you're American military, you start learning southern colloquialisms even when you don't speak them, because other people will be using them.
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This is actually correct. There's a particular US dialect (Appalachian somewhere, I believe? I forget exactly.) that's almost EXACTLY Elizabethan English, whereas over there there's been the shift you describe. It's just fascinating, really; it means many of the puns, dirty jokes, etc in Shakespeare simply don't work as many people expect them to be said, but the second you swap the accents, there you are.
Also, Feynman was AWESOME. Brilliant, funny, personable; I really do recommend his books/autobiographies, if just for the insider view of Los Alamos, WW2, etc. And any of his lectures are a good listen, as well, amazingly informative, but presented in a very accessible way.
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Considering how much they invested into the lore and the name already, and that it's Blizzard, I really do expect them to just buy the name lol. Who knows though, they might come up with something snazzier.
They should call it Heralds of the Scone to go with Heart of the Swarm, Heroes of the Storm and Hearth of the Stone.