The Doctor hasn't been portrayed as one man with many faces basically ever, with the difference between 11 and 12 being one of the sharpest contrasts in the show's history. The whole War Doctor thing hinged on the idea that in fact the Doctors are very different from each other and this transformation can even be steered.
I think of the Doctor as a sort of big bag of personality bits, and his bodies are containers that can't quite fit all of it in. When he regenerates, the old container is poured back into the bag, it gets mixed around, and the new container is filled. Most of the same stuff is still there, but each combination is unique. Whether this constitutes a separate person is open to interpretation.
The War Doctor was a special case where the elixir filtered through all the most warrior-ish bits from those in the bag, though it didn't actually add anything that wasn't already there. The War Doctor could, potentially, have arisen from a normal regeneration if random chance had picked out the same bits.
It's really time to put him into the actual series in some capacity
I would really love some kind of Four Doctors episode with Mcgann, Tennant, Smith, and Capaldi. I'd have included Eccelston but his clear distance to ever do more Doctor Who has been noted and Hurt would be hard to fit in.
Better yet if it also have McCoy or Colin Baker or Davidson in it.
Baker and Davidson have too obviously aged, McCoy I reckon could still pull off seven. Ideally I also want Patrick Stewart in a wig playing one and Sean Pertwee playing Three.
I wouldn't have Baker commit to a full episode, maybe an epilogue at the end of the season, similar to his 50th appearance.
McCoy can still pull off the Doctor, same with Six and Five. But I agree, Mcgann needs a few episodes to cement his legacy, as all he has is a shitty tv-movie to his name.
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I know Mcgann has lots of audiobooks under his belt
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They haven't done any alternate universe stuff for a while. You could bring the surviving actors back as alternate universe versions of the Doctor who never regenerated and continued to age in their existing bodies.
Well, it's really only 4-6 you need to make up timey wimey explanations for to explain their aging. There are plenty of theoretical routes you could take if you wanted to do that (depending on what you want to do with the story and it's tone).
1. As above, alternate universe stuff.
2. As done in the 50th Anniversary, reveal that future incarnations of the current Doctor may revisit some old faces (provided the timeline isn't changed too much, to give them an out on that).
3. Have someone interfere with the Doctor's personal history either causing him to transform into a previous form that has aged as if it never regenerated (if the interference on his timeline was specific in nature), or is causing him to randomly change into a bunch of previous forms (if the interference was more chaotic and unstable).
4. Any number of "reverse-regeneration" effects that fans have theorized over the years (mostly in an attempt to get "their" Doctor back), though obviously it'd have to be undone by the end of the story.
5. Some form of copy (robot, clone, Nestene, etc.). Maybe a villain made it to specifically target a specific Doctor and then that Doctor had to go and die and change his face making the copy useless, so it was abandoned to it's own devices.
6. Though it wasn't a great explanation, you could also reuse the "shorting out time" or whatever it was that they used when 5 met 10.
7. I'm sure you can work it into the Weeping Angels ever-expanding power set somehow. They already eat paradoxes and send stuff back in time and all. Maybe something goes wrong when an Angel grabs the Doctor and it paradoxically turns him into an aged Colin Baker instead of sending him back in time.
8. If they do a repeat of something like the time River Song broke time by refusing to shoot the Doctor, that kind of scenario could also account for it.
Really though, I agree that McGann needs to get more time on screen first, if they can manage that.
I didn't hate the Christmas special, but I wasn't crazy about it either.
The protagonists were all interesting to watch, but it was let down by the baddies. It's a superhero pastiche, there should have been a Lex Luthor-y supervillain. Instead we get body/identity stealing aliens again. I mean, how many times are we going to drink from that well? And how are they storing guns inside their heads when that's where the brain aliens live? And why store guns there at all?
Series 10 trailer looks dope though.
EDIT: Also, I was reading reactions on a Doctor Who forum and while opinion is pretty divided, everyone seems to agree that Nardole is much better than expected. So that's nice.
Apart from how Nice Guy(tm) Grant was, that was actually a pretty decent Christmas special. Just the right amount of silliness for me.
Not gonna lie, there was a moment there where I was reeeeal worried the Doctor was going to say something like "Grant, even the TARDIS can't get you out of the friend-zone" and I was going to have to leave the room and scream into a pillow for a few hours.
Yeah Christmas special seemed OK. All pretty much fine but kind of forgetable.
Need more Doctor and better vilains I guess. The put a lot of time into Grant that didn't really ever seem to go anywhere interesting.
Nardole probably does't need to be terrible if used in the right amounts.
Not sure on the series ten trailer.
It was silly, fun and provided Capaldi with another opportunity to show how he absolutely owns the role now. Nardole was inoffensive but also kind of pointless.
So glad they didn't feel the need to shove Christmas themed stuff in there if they didn't have actually have a story that called for it.
The whole it's a town called Christmas stuff from the end of elven was so random.
I thought the Christmas special was pretty good. After waiting so long for something new it wasn't a let down, but didn't exactly blow me away either. My daughter loved it though, and the trailer for season 10 got us both excited.
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This year's Christmas special landed on just the right side of whimsicality for me.
I was hoping the journalist would end up at least being offered, but can imagine the doctor then throwing a bunch of squeaky toys into the sun just to make a point...
They haven't done any alternate universe stuff for a while. You could bring the surviving actors back as alternate universe versions of the Doctor who never regenerated and continued to age in their existing bodies.
Man, I missed this before the Holiday Forum came up, but boy do I like this. I would love some stories that explore what various incarnations of the Doctor would have become over time. His regenerations have often been sort of a way for him to almost retool himself and you can make the case for a lot of them being direct responses to their predecessors, if you will. Regenerations are like a major point of growth for him as a person and it would be neat to take a sort of "arrested development" approach (the psychological term, not the television show or the band) and explore what the Doctor would be like if he'd never "moved on" from a given personality.
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I can't believe after the trailers that I liked this episode as much as I did. Weird to see Doctor Who become a CW superhero show and work though.
This year's Christmas special landed on just the right side of whimsicality for me.
I was hoping the journalist would end up at least being offered, but can imagine the doctor then throwing a bunch of squeaky toys into the sun just to make a point...
Lois Lane being the Doctor's companion would have been amazing.
This year's Christmas special landed on just the right side of whimsicality for me.
I was hoping the journalist would end up at least being offered, but can imagine the doctor then throwing a bunch of squeaky toys into the sun just to make a point...
Lois Lane being the Doctor's companion would have been amazing.
She'd have to get over her habit of falling/jumping off high places, unless they wanted to make materializing the TARDIS under her a running gag.
So, anyone reading the Third Doctor mini-series from Titan? The third issue had a pretty good twist on the last couple of pages.
Didn't that guy fall into the timestream while the TARDIS was moving through it? I thought surviving it outside a TARDIS was supposed to be impossible unless you did what Clara did and clutched onto the side and even then the TARDIS had to slow down to keep shielding over her.
Nine was much better. The opening two-parter is a bit blustery, but it's still entertaining, and the writing is very strong throughout the rest of the season.
Magician's Apprentice / Witch's Familiar: C-
Under the Lake / Before the Flood: B
The Girl Who Died / The Woman Who Lived: B
Zygon Invasion / Zygon Inversion: B+
Sleep No More: D
Face the Raven: B
Heaven Sent / Hell Bent: A-
Almost an hour long movie of Peter Capaldi talking to himself in a castle while being chased by a monster moving at no more than walking pace and it's brilliant.
Didn’t John Hurt say something like “I received the script on Friday and was on set on Monday”?
It wasn’t quite as fast as that but it was bloody fast. He was top of our list. I wrote the War Doctor script and we sent it off to John Hurt, assuming that was the beginning of a frantic two weeks of sending it off to every actor you’ve ever heard off and got Janette Krankie. And – God bless him for ever! – he said yes almost immediately. That was the first stroke of luck we had on that sodding show.
And how good was he! One moment as the Doctor and he nails it. He totally gets it. And he was lovely about being in it. I wasn’t there on his last day, but he gave a little speech and said something like: “I don’t want anyone to think I took this lightly or thought I was slumming it. This really meant something to me, to be the Doctor.” He was quite insistent, saying to me and to others: “So I am properly Doctor Who now. I am a Doctor Who. I can say it?” He loves the fact that he’s Doctor Who. Only having to stay in Cardiff for three weeks, he gets to be Doctor Who.
He also did some Time War audio adventures with Big Finish, which isn't something an actor of his calibre does if they're chasing glory or a pay check. The fourth, and presumably last, of these adventures is out next month.
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He did a really great job in the role. RIP.
@Butler BTW Do you know if 'Class' is coming back for another round of episodes, or has it been cancelled?
@Butler BTW Do you know if 'Class' is coming back for another round of episodes, or has it been cancelled?
I've not heard anything either way. IMO Class was well-written overall but they leaned way too hard on the "shock death of a supporting character" trope in a bid for Drama Points. I think it deserves at least one more season, but they've got their work cut out for them digging out of the grimdark hole they're in.
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The War Doctor was a special case where the elixir filtered through all the most warrior-ish bits from those in the bag, though it didn't actually add anything that wasn't already there. The War Doctor could, potentially, have arisen from a normal regeneration if random chance had picked out the same bits.
Baker and Davidson have too obviously aged, McCoy I reckon could still pull off seven. Ideally I also want Patrick Stewart in a wig playing one and Sean Pertwee playing Three.
McCoy can still pull off the Doctor, same with Six and Five. But I agree, Mcgann needs a few episodes to cement his legacy, as all he has is a shitty tv-movie to his name.
*fake shemp*
I know Mcgann has lots of audiobooks under his belt
*\fake shemp*
1. As above, alternate universe stuff.
2. As done in the 50th Anniversary, reveal that future incarnations of the current Doctor may revisit some old faces (provided the timeline isn't changed too much, to give them an out on that).
3. Have someone interfere with the Doctor's personal history either causing him to transform into a previous form that has aged as if it never regenerated (if the interference on his timeline was specific in nature), or is causing him to randomly change into a bunch of previous forms (if the interference was more chaotic and unstable).
4. Any number of "reverse-regeneration" effects that fans have theorized over the years (mostly in an attempt to get "their" Doctor back), though obviously it'd have to be undone by the end of the story.
5. Some form of copy (robot, clone, Nestene, etc.). Maybe a villain made it to specifically target a specific Doctor and then that Doctor had to go and die and change his face making the copy useless, so it was abandoned to it's own devices.
6. Though it wasn't a great explanation, you could also reuse the "shorting out time" or whatever it was that they used when 5 met 10.
7. I'm sure you can work it into the Weeping Angels ever-expanding power set somehow. They already eat paradoxes and send stuff back in time and all. Maybe something goes wrong when an Angel grabs the Doctor and it paradoxically turns him into an aged Colin Baker instead of sending him back in time.
8. If they do a repeat of something like the time River Song broke time by refusing to shoot the Doctor, that kind of scenario could also account for it.
Really though, I agree that McGann needs to get more time on screen first, if they can manage that.
Although I think Eight and Twelve could have the most excellent shout-off.
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Series 10 trailer looks dope though.
EDIT: Also, I was reading reactions on a Doctor Who forum and while opinion is pretty divided, everyone seems to agree that Nardole is much better than expected. So that's nice.
Not gonna lie, there was a moment there where I was reeeeal worried the Doctor was going to say something like "Grant, even the TARDIS can't get you out of the friend-zone" and I was going to have to leave the room and scream into a pillow for a few hours.
Need more Doctor and better vilains I guess. The put a lot of time into Grant that didn't really ever seem to go anywhere interesting.
Nardole probably does't need to be terrible if used in the right amounts.
Not sure on the series ten trailer.
Christmas Special was fun, but not particularly christmasey.
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The whole it's a town called Christmas stuff from the end of elven was so random.
Man, I missed this before the Holiday Forum came up, but boy do I like this. I would love some stories that explore what various incarnations of the Doctor would have become over time. His regenerations have often been sort of a way for him to almost retool himself and you can make the case for a lot of them being direct responses to their predecessors, if you will. Regenerations are like a major point of growth for him as a person and it would be neat to take a sort of "arrested development" approach (the psychological term, not the television show or the band) and explore what the Doctor would be like if he'd never "moved on" from a given personality.
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Magician's Apprentice / Witch's Familiar: C-
Under the Lake / Before the Flood: B
The Girl Who Died / The Woman Who Lived: B
Zygon Invasion / Zygon Inversion: B+
Sleep No More: D
Face the Raven: B
Heaven Sent / Hell Bent: A-
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The old one's certainly seen better days.
My grandma made this for me a few years ago. It's based on the original design, all 12 feet of it.
John came to the Doctor Who universe pretty late but he really did love getting to be a part of it in "Day of The Doctor":
He also did some Time War audio adventures with Big Finish, which isn't something an actor of his calibre does if they're chasing glory or a pay check. The fourth, and presumably last, of these adventures is out next month.
@Butler BTW Do you know if 'Class' is coming back for another round of episodes, or has it been cancelled?
I've not heard anything either way. IMO Class was well-written overall but they leaned way too hard on the "shock death of a supporting character" trope in a bid for Drama Points. I think it deserves at least one more season, but they've got their work cut out for them digging out of the grimdark hole they're in.