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[Doctor Who] is more back than ever

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    I think Capaldi had the most consistently decent episodes of any of the new Who Doctors, as well as some all time greats like Heaven Sent and Mummy on the Orient Express.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    He rapidly rocketed to the top of my favorite modern doctor list, though initially I was very disappointed by a return to old-white-guy casting.

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  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Capaldi has a really interesting arc that develops out of the writers seemingly not knowing where to go with him at first, the whole "am I a good man?" thing.

    He goes from an abrasive prick that does not hug into a openly compassionate good boy. "Always try to be nice, but never fail to be kind" is not a sentiment I see Series 8 Doc embracing. You can almost chart it by his costuming - blue n' red magician coat is a blank slate, black hoodie he's coming along nicely, velvet coat he's done cooking, and he gets his own sonic screwdriver to seal the deal.

    It means he is easily the Doctor with the most on screen development, and that's always compelling. Only downside is I feel like we only got one series with the fully formed Twelfth Doctor. Wish he could have stuck around forever. :I

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    AHHH IT'S DAVID SUCHET AAAAA!

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    man they really wasted Suchet in that episode

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    man they really wasted Suchet in that episode

    I rewatched it recently and I didn't think so. They gave him as much screen time as they could without detracting from the story, and all the little mannerisms he has make him even more creepy when you already know why he is the way he is. It's an outstanding performance. He damn near steals the show from Capaldi.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Yeah, there are a couple of guest stars I think they've wasted (Tobias Menzies in the otherwise pretty good episode about the Russian sub), but I thought Suchet was excellent.

  • ApocalyptusApocalyptus Registered User regular
    Bill Bailey was ridiculously wasted in that terrible tree Christmas Special.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Suchet's performance is definitely one that improves with a rewatch.

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    This is actually pretty good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0MABc70atg

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    I'm debating just showing excerpts of season 10 in lieu of lectures this year. They're so thematically on the nose it's almost pandering.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    What if we literally have the baddies feeding on the disenfranchised in almost every episode?

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    Is it possible to get a crush on a skull? The main dude on the execution planet (10e6) has an awesome skull shape.

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I've got some nice new on location pics for you lovely folks

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    I see the Doctor is coming to grips with the lack of pockets on women's clothing.

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  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    I dig the costume the more I see it really. And I was already on pretty good footing with it at the start.

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  • CyvrosCyvros Registered User regular
    I still can't get over just how good the blue of her pants is. It's such a good blue.

  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
  • GustavGustav Friend of Goats Somewhere in the OzarksRegistered User regular
    Composer Murray Gold isn't returning for the next season.

    And while he has some motifs I've enjoyed I think this is a good thing.

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    New Doctor, new font



    wonder if this is heralding a trailer or something though or if it's just periodic hype stoking

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    aha

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x66z_AMM2ik

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    That is a cool font / title card and I like it.

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  • GatsbyGatsby Registered User regular
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

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  • OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Yeah I'm really digging that poster

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    Gatsby wrote: »
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

    I have been, and remain, firmly in the "prove you've got more going on than just a woman playing The Doctor," camp (the sincere one, not the dog-whistling misogynist one), and everything they've shown suggests they have indeed got more going on. It's nice not to be let down!

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  • ApocalyptusApocalyptus Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

    I have been, and remain, firmly in the "prove you've got more going on than just a woman playing The Doctor," camp (the sincere one, not the dog-whistling misogynist one), and everything they've shown suggests they have indeed got more going on. It's nice not to be let down!

    So have they ever had to 'prove' they've got more going on than just a man playing the Doctor?

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

    I have been, and remain, firmly in the "prove you've got more going on than just a woman playing The Doctor," camp (the sincere one, not the dog-whistling misogynist one), and everything they've shown suggests they have indeed got more going on. It's nice not to be let down!

    So have they ever had to 'prove' they've got more going on than just a man playing the Doctor?

    Absolutely, most notably during the revival season when they had to prove there was a reason for Doctor Who to be back on TV at all, but just generally during every other casting change.

    In fact, to elaborate, exactly what they need to prove changes with each re-casting as well. Tennant? "Can you do this show without Eccleston?" (Resounding yes on that one). Matt Smith? "Can you make the youngest Doctor ever work?". Capaldi? "Can you go back to it being an old white guy in the face of vast demand for more representation in Doctor Who, and we'll still like him?"

    This time it's "It's a woman now - have you got anything else to go with that, or is it only a cosmetic change?"

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  • UltimateInfernoUltimateInferno Registered User regular
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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

    I have been, and remain, firmly in the "prove you've got more going on than just a woman playing The Doctor," camp (the sincere one, not the dog-whistling misogynist one), and everything they've shown suggests they have indeed got more going on. It's nice not to be let down!

    So have they ever had to 'prove' they've got more going on than just a man playing the Doctor?

    Smith and Capaldi were lambasted by some fans for not being Tennant and being "too old"

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  • ApocalyptusApocalyptus Registered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

    I have been, and remain, firmly in the "prove you've got more going on than just a woman playing The Doctor," camp (the sincere one, not the dog-whistling misogynist one), and everything they've shown suggests they have indeed got more going on. It's nice not to be let down!

    So have they ever had to 'prove' they've got more going on than just a man playing the Doctor?

    Smith and Capaldi were lambasted by some fans for not being Tennant and being "too old"

    That was because of their ages, not because of their gender (plus Smith would have been considered too young, if anything).

    Also, lambasting someone for not being Tennant is not the same as placing an extra burden of proof on a female Doctor to specifically have 'more going on' than just being female. I mean, did anyone think the new season would just be Jodie Whittaker staring at the camera saying 'I am a woman' over and over for 45 minutes?

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  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Auralynx wrote: »
    Gatsby wrote: »
    I'm impressed with how the costume looks silhouetted in that lighting. More and more the whole look is growing on me, and I liked it from the start.

    I have been, and remain, firmly in the "prove you've got more going on than just a woman playing The Doctor," camp (the sincere one, not the dog-whistling misogynist one), and everything they've shown suggests they have indeed got more going on. It's nice not to be let down!

    So have they ever had to 'prove' they've got more going on than just a man playing the Doctor?

    Smith and Capaldi were lambasted by some fans for not being Tennant and being "too old"

    That was because of their ages, not because of their gender (plus Smith would have been considered too young, if anything).

    Also, lambasting someone for not being Tennant is not the same as placing an extra burden of proof on a female Doctor to specifically have 'more going on' than just being female. I mean, did anyone think the new season would just be Jodie Whittaker staring at the camera saying 'I am a woman' over and over for 45 minutes?

    Of course not, but if it's never a factor and they just carry on with Doctor Business As Usual that'd be disappointing too, wouldn't it?

    E: Also, side note - the burden's not on Jodie Whittaker. It's on the writing staff.

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    I think Jodie Whittaker has no more and no less to prove than any other new actor in the role. However, casting a woman for the first time is a big deal and will definitely bring in new viewers in and of itself, so I could understand someone being concerned that the new team running the show might cynically rely on that buzz to carry them and not try to innovate elsewhere. Thankfully they don't seem to be doing that.

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    I am certainly worried that they don’t have a good plan and it will be shit

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    Chibnall is kind of an inverse Moffat, in that he has a great track record as a show runner (Broadchurch) and a decent record as a writer of individual episodes. So I'm optimistic but not completely convinced.

  • AuralynxAuralynx Darkness is a perspective Watching the ego workRegistered User regular
    edited February 2018
    Butler wrote: »
    Chibnall is kind of an inverse Moffat, in that he has a great track record as a show runner (Broadchurch) and a decent record as a writer of individual episodes. So I'm optimistic but not completely convinced.

    We're also coming off the pretty-successful extended period where The Master was cast as a woman. Signs are encouraging!

    It might take a bit before they really deliver, but they seem to be on a good track and not just hoping to coast on the totally justified excitement people have about the change.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    all I really want is good Doctor Who stories

    innovation is surplus to requirements

  • ApocalyptusApocalyptus Registered User regular
    Yeah there's always a concern how a new creative team will perform after a handover, which is fair enough. They usually do tend to change styles between each Doctor, which can be a good thing in that if you don't like what's being done in DW at the current time you can at least wait a few years and it will be different again.

    What concerns me currently is the looming possibility that
    They've got a Rosa Parks related episode in the works. That could go so badly so easily.

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  • ButlerButler 89 episodes or bust Registered User regular
    Yeah there's always a concern how a new creative team will perform after a handover, which is fair enough. They usually do tend to change styles between each Doctor, which can be a good thing in that if you don't like what's being done in DW at the current time you can at least wait a few years and it will be different again.

    What concerns me currently is the looming possibility that
    They've got a Rosa Parks related episode in the works. That could go so badly so easily.

    Yes.
    I can't, for the life of me, think of any way Doctor Who could work Rosa Parks into a story that isn't either flippant or minimising of what she achieved.

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  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Chibnall's record as a showrunner also includes the significantly less than great Torchwood, so, yeah, I am concerned as to what he might do. I mean, I'm optimistic, but not exactly brimming with confidence.

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    I liked Broadchurch 1 & 3, but Chibnall definitely has some weird tics in them. Both end with a character turning out to be a cartoonish monster out of nowhere, and season 3 has a Kill The Moon style political hang up running through it.

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