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  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    emp123 wrote: »
    chasm wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Anyone have any experience with wireless adapters for 802.11ac? We got one of the fancy new Verizon modems and I'm trying to figure out if I should get a new adapter for my desktop (no way to run ethernet unfortunately).

    http://www.amazon.com/Netis-Wireless-Long-Range-Supports-Antennas/dp/B006THNH7Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1432771746&sr=8-4&keywords=netis

    I've been using this one without any issues whatsoever. I get full speed (51-53Mbps on a 45Mbps connection) and haven't had any latency issues while playing games online. Signal strength always shows as full even though my router and desktop are on opposite ends of the house. Shit, just noticed that you specified 802.11ac...sorry. :(

    I've been using this Linksys adapter and I haven't had a single issue and I do a lot of online gaming. Plus it has some adapter thing that let's you move it around so you can get better reception.

    Unfortunately these are wireless-N adapters. I already have a Rosewill one of those, actually it looks like it might be a rebranded Netis one (looks exactly the same).

    What I'm seeing is there are plenty of USB wireless-AC adapters that can do ~900mbps on the 5ghz band (AC1200 or below) but the modem/router we have supports AC1750 which supposedly can do 1300mbps. Looks like those are only available as PCI-e cards right now at high ($80+) prices.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#Advertised

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    chasm wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Anyone have any experience with wireless adapters for 802.11ac? We got one of the fancy new Verizon modems and I'm trying to figure out if I should get a new adapter for my desktop (no way to run ethernet unfortunately).

    http://www.amazon.com/Netis-Wireless-Long-Range-Supports-Antennas/dp/B006THNH7Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1432771746&sr=8-4&keywords=netis

    I've been using this one without any issues whatsoever. I get full speed (51-53Mbps on a 45Mbps connection) and haven't had any latency issues while playing games online. Signal strength always shows as full even though my router and desktop are on opposite ends of the house. Shit, just noticed that you specified 802.11ac...sorry. :(

    I've been using this Linksys adapter and I haven't had a single issue and I do a lot of online gaming. Plus it has some adapter thing that let's you move it around so you can get better reception.

    Unfortunately these are wireless-N adapters. I already have a Rosewill one of those, actually it looks like it might be a rebranded Netis one (looks exactly the same).

    What I'm seeing is there are plenty of USB wireless-AC adapters that can do ~900mbps on the 5ghz band (AC1200 or below) but the modem/router we have supports AC1750 which supposedly can do 1300mbps. Looks like those are only available as PCI-e cards right now at high ($80+) prices.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#Advertised

    http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Ac1750-Db-Usb-Adapter/dp/B00LW3EHV2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1432819815&sr=8-9&keywords=usb+wireless+ac1750

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    Just got a new gtx 970! the driver updating process is driving me nuts! I tell the computer in every way I know how not to automatically update anything so I can do a clean install. I restart the computer, the computer updates my gtx 560 ti's drivers anyway.

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  • chasmchasm Ill-tempered Texan Registered User regular
    Have you just downloaded GeForce Experience?

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    My computer should arrive on Monday, so I need to get some new monitors. Any recommendations? I no longer have any reasonable space requirements.

    There was a weird problem with my old monitor where no matter what it would only display in 1920 x 1080 (or similar), leaving a huge black border around the screen. I don't know what caused it or how it can be avoided.

  • tsmvengytsmvengy Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    emp123 wrote: »
    chasm wrote: »
    tsmvengy wrote: »
    Anyone have any experience with wireless adapters for 802.11ac? We got one of the fancy new Verizon modems and I'm trying to figure out if I should get a new adapter for my desktop (no way to run ethernet unfortunately).

    http://www.amazon.com/Netis-Wireless-Long-Range-Supports-Antennas/dp/B006THNH7Q/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1432771746&sr=8-4&keywords=netis

    I've been using this one without any issues whatsoever. I get full speed (51-53Mbps on a 45Mbps connection) and haven't had any latency issues while playing games online. Signal strength always shows as full even though my router and desktop are on opposite ends of the house. Shit, just noticed that you specified 802.11ac...sorry. :(

    I've been using this Linksys adapter and I haven't had a single issue and I do a lot of online gaming. Plus it has some adapter thing that let's you move it around so you can get better reception.

    Unfortunately these are wireless-N adapters. I already have a Rosewill one of those, actually it looks like it might be a rebranded Netis one (looks exactly the same).

    What I'm seeing is there are plenty of USB wireless-AC adapters that can do ~900mbps on the 5ghz band (AC1200 or below) but the modem/router we have supports AC1750 which supposedly can do 1300mbps. Looks like those are only available as PCI-e cards right now at high ($80+) prices.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11ac#Advertised

    http://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Ac1750-Db-Usb-Adapter/dp/B00LW3EHV2/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1432819815&sr=8-9&keywords=usb+wireless+ac1750

    Considering that the same product is advertised elsewhere as AC600, I don't have a lot of confidence in that listing. But thanks!

    I may just have to wait a little bit and see if more products come out.

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  • IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    tsplitter wrote: »
    Just got a new gtx 970! the driver updating process is driving me nuts! I tell the computer in every way I know how not to automatically update anything so I can do a clean install. I restart the computer, the computer updates my gtx 560 ti's drivers anyway.

    I'm just about to do this same thing this weekend (GTX 560 TI to a GTX 970 as well). Let us know what you figure out.

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  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    chasm wrote: »
    Have you just downloaded GeForce Experience?

    apparently what was happening was actually okay. Everything is fine now.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Yes. Unlike AMD, NVidia always wants you to use the most current gen drivers for whatever gen card you are using.

  • tsplittertsplitter Registered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    tsplitter wrote: »
    Just got a new gtx 970! the driver updating process is driving me nuts! I tell the computer in every way I know how not to automatically update anything so I can do a clean install. I restart the computer, the computer updates my gtx 560 ti's drivers anyway.

    I'm just about to do this same thing this weekend (GTX 560 TI to a GTX 970 as well). Let us know what you figure out.

    all that was happening was that windows needed some thing to work with, so it will pull up a display driver. It wasn't simply re-installing the 560 stuff like I thought.

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Tube wrote: »
    My computer should arrive on Monday, so I need to get some new monitors. Any recommendations? I no longer have any reasonable space requirements.

    There was a weird problem with my old monitor where no matter what it would only display in 1920 x 1080 (or similar), leaving a huge black border around the screen. I don't know what caused it or how it can be avoided.

    Monitors are more akin to mice than other pieces of hardware. They require a person judging for themselves what they'll like. What are you looking for in a monitor? Gsyc, color accuracy, low latency, number and type of connections...ect...ect. If you list some needs some folks might be able to make some recommendations.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    I normally ignore most of these emails, but the deals that Newegg is offering today are too good not to pass along (SSDs, Fractal Define R4, H100i)

    LINK

  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
    Seeing deals like that makes we want to weep, knowing I'm stuck across the border and the same crap is going for DOUBLE here. Please, Canadian Dollar. Recover, so I can bless myself with SSD's.

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  • emp123emp123 Registered User regular
    TIL Wireless AC is a new wireless standard.

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  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
    A review is up for the Corsair H100i GT all-in-one. Thing looks pretty beast!

    Between you and me, Peggy, I smoked this Juul and it did UNTHINKABLE things to my mind and body...
  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Something I've wondered a lot: why do they not have closed-loop coolers for vidcards, the way they do for processors? Too much turnover, so tough to justify the investment? Reference designs too different?

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Something I've wondered a lot: why do they not have closed-loop coolers for vidcards, the way they do for processors? Too much turnover, so tough to justify the investment? Reference designs too different?

    https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/138-kraken-g10-gpu-bracket.html

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  • Zen VulgarityZen Vulgarity What a lovely day for tea Secret British ThreadRegistered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Something I've wondered a lot: why do they not have closed-loop coolers for vidcards, the way they do for processors? Too much turnover, so tough to justify the investment? Reference designs too different?

    https://www.nzxt.com/product/detail/138-kraken-g10-gpu-bracket.html

    From what I've heard this works well

    However

    Make sure you buy heatsinks for your VRAM

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  • SnicketysnickSnicketysnick The Greatest Hype Man in WesterosRegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Something I've wondered a lot: why do they not have closed-loop coolers for vidcards, the way they do for processors? Too much turnover, so tough to justify the investment? Reference designs too different?

    The next AMD/ATI card is pretty heavily rumored to have a closed loop as reference, due to them being able to fit all the memory under the plate as well with their memory stacking tech thingy.

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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Damnit, now I'm looking at an H50 + G10 and trying to justify it. Except the only noise I get from my card is coil whine. D:

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Mugsley wrote: »
    Something I've wondered a lot: why do they not have closed-loop coolers for vidcards, the way they do for processors? Too much turnover, so tough to justify the investment? Reference designs too different?

    The next AMD/ATI card is pretty heavily rumored to have a closed loop as reference, due to them being able to fit all the memory under the plate as well with their memory stacking tech thingy.

    I highly doubt this. They may offer a reference closed loop design, but I highly doubt the stock cards will ship with it. Failure rates on closed loop coolers are still much higher than air coolers (more moving parts), and I don't think AMD and Nvidia will want to take the warranty cost hit.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • MugsleyMugsley DelawareRegistered User regular
    Correct me if I'm wrong (I just thought of this): ACX is a closed-loop liquid solution; is it not?

  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    No, ACX is just EVGA's version of the open air cooler. Similar to MSI's Frozr or Gigabyte's Windforce.

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    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    My issue with the Titan X isn't the price, it's that while it's incredibly powerful, it's not powerful enough given that we're in a weird transitional period between 1080p, 1440p and 4k. You don't need a Titan X for 1440p, a 980 will do that...but a Titan X isn't quite powerful enough to drive 4k. It's in this weird tweener spot that, for me, makes it a bad long term purchase. You'd prefer a card that expensive be something that gives you some headroom for a few years, but it will be completely obsoleted with the next generation of cards built for 4K.

    Whatever the Titan 2016 ends up being, on the other hand, will probably be a more interesting enthusiast purchase, as it should be in that 4k butter zone.

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  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    Oh, but that one I linked has a water cooled solution integrated. :)

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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    GnomeTank wrote: »
    My issue with the Titan X isn't the price, it's that while it's incredibly powerful, it's not powerful enough given that we're in a weird transitional period between 1080p, 1440p and 4k. You don't need a Titan X for 1440p, a 980 will do that...but a Titan X isn't quite powerful enough to drive 4k. It's in this weird tweener spot that, for me, makes it a bad long term purchase. You'd prefer a card that expensive be something that gives you some headroom for a few years, but it will be completely obsoleted with the next generation of cards built for 4K.

    Whatever the Titan 2016 ends up being, on the other hand, will probably be a more interesting enthusiast purchase, as it should be in that 4k butter zone.

    Please be defining "need". I personally think that a 980 is not enough on it's own to drive 1440p. You don't need anything to play games at any resolution. It's all going to be tradeoffs on FPS vs features.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    I know from personal experience the 980 is enough to drive 1440p. I'm playing the Witcher 3 at 1440p, Ultra settings, 60 FPS on a 980 right now. Since that's the most demanding game anyone is likely to run in 2015, yes, I think the 980 is all you need to drive 1440p.

    Sagroth wrote: »
    Oh c'mon FyreWulff, no one's gonna pay to visit Uranus.
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  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Witcher 3 isn't as demanding as a lot of games from last year. I don't get a solid 60fps at 1080p with a 980. I also prefer framerates above 60, closer to 100.

    I don't know why you think your personal opinion is like some sort of fact. If you're satisfied with a 980 at 1440p that's fine but peoples preferences vary.

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  • Ed GrubermanEd Gruberman Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Whoops. Wrong thread. How 'bout them computers, eh?

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  • TubeTube Registered User admin
    Cabezone wrote: »
    Tube wrote: »
    My computer should arrive on Monday, so I need to get some new monitors. Any recommendations? I no longer have any reasonable space requirements.

    There was a weird problem with my old monitor where no matter what it would only display in 1920 x 1080 (or similar), leaving a huge black border around the screen. I don't know what caused it or how it can be avoided.

    Monitors are more akin to mice than other pieces of hardware. They require a person judging for themselves what they'll like. What are you looking for in a monitor? Gsyc, color accuracy, low latency, number and type of connections...ect...ect. If you list some needs some folks might be able to make some recommendations.

    This was my previous monitor, which I was happy enough with (aside from the black box problem). I'm not sure if there are similar, more advanced models out. Honestly, I'm super clueless about monitors in general.

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    Whoops, model was a Asus VN247H

  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
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    Cabezone wrote: »
    Witcher 3 isn't as demanding as a lot of games from last year. I don't get a solid 60fps at 1080p with a 980. I also prefer framerates above 60, closer to 100.

    I don't know why you think your personal opinion is like some sort of fact. If you're satisfied with a 980 at 1440p that's fine but peoples preferences vary.
    I have a GTX 980 and a 1440p monitor. A GTX 980 is not sufficient for me. After playing games at 144 Hz, I have been spoiled and find 60 to be awful.

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  • SmokeStacksSmokeStacks Registered User regular

    I feel like if I was going to give Nvidia $1,100 for a single GPU they could give me 140mm and push/pull.

    And maybe a rad that isn't as thin as the one that shipped with my low end H60.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Hmmm. Still deciding on what to do to prepare the computer for summer without increasing noise too much. Mostly in terms of making it fit into my case without taking up all the space or clashing with something. Also, if I currently have a one fan intake-one fan exhaust configuration, should I put the next one in "in" or "out"?

    Also, a question. What do people do with the trillion leftover cables coming out of the PSU? I kinda stuffed them behind my Fractal R4's wall so they don't look terrible, but I'm starting to wonder if they're to blame for the way the outer case sometimes feels a bit charged to the touch.

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  • amnesiasoftamnesiasoft Thick Creamy Furry Registered User regular
    I usually run the cables straight across into the 5.25" drive bays.

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  • wunderbarwunderbar What Have I Done? Registered User regular
    putting them behind the motherboard tray is the most common thing, and that actually gives you the best airflow because they aren't in the way of the air flow path.

    As for the next fan: I'd have another in first, personally. it'll help keep the air pressure up inside the case which in theory reduces dust. Whether that's actually a tangible thing I'm not 100% sure, but I think it makes a difference.

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  • ErlkönigErlkönig Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    BTW, just thought I'd mention it for anybody still on the fence on picking up a Geforce 970 card: NewEgg has one (an MSI, non-Twin Frozr model) currently on sale for $299 (after a $10 MIR). Looks like the card is also being offered with both Arkham Knight and Witcher 3, too.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    wunderbar wrote: »
    putting them behind the motherboard tray is the most common thing, and that actually gives you the best airflow because they aren't in the way of the air flow path.

    As for the next fan: I'd have another in first, personally. it'll help keep the air pressure up inside the case which in theory reduces dust. Whether that's actually a tangible thing I'm not 100% sure, but I think it makes a difference.

    I see.

    Now to pick a cooling solution. Which is really hard because every site seems to have different conclusions on the matter of closed loop coolers and I'm lost as shit.

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  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    Cabezone wrote: »
    I wouldn't plan on much 4k gaming withing the next couple of years. Unless you have an unlimited gaming budget.

    I went to 4k for a short while then went back to 2550. Two chief reasomns for this: (1) sli/crossfire performance remains inconsistent across software titles, so until accessible single-card solutions for 4k are released (probably with the next wave of Radeon 300 cards and follow-on NVidia cards), it's a pain in the butt; (2) windows and game GUIs are not optimized for 4k, and dealing with 4k in windows meant either tiny icons or no improvement in screen real estate.

    4k will be awesome eventually, but I would at least wait and see how Windows 10 does in supporting 4k before upgrading.

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