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Dragon Age Thread – Too Many Breeches

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  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    God, I love these judgements, I'm trying to play them in a benevolent dictator style. Warning: Various spoilers
    Barbarian clan leader: Shipped them to Tevinter (Even Dorian Approved?)
    Red Templar Asshole: So, you're gonna use the Nuremberg defense? Try using it on your fellow templars, let's see if they buy "Just following orders"
    Alexius: Technically, you didn't do anything horrible...yet, so I'm handing you over to the mages.
    Extremely remorseful Warden: I forgive you. You turned yourself of your own volition, and I think you should be set free. Just don't do that again.
    Crestwood Mayor: Damn dude, I feel for you, the Blight sucks, but your 10 year old crimes should be tried by Ferelden, not me.
    Erimond: Seriously dude, even Cole thinks you're an asshole. Very tempted to use Tranqulization on you, but I'll leave you to the Adamant wardens, seeing as you're the one that fucked them up.

    And then my most important judgment:
    Dammit Blackwall, you did some really bad shit, but....well, you're incredibly remorseful, and I can understand why you didn't tell me the truth. Hell, you could have kept your mouth shut, and let that guy hang, but you pulled a Jean Valjean. Hell, you even rightfully accused me of corruption to get you back to Skyhold. So, just like Ser Remoresful Warden, I'm setting you free, no strings attached.


    And no, you being fantastic in the sack totally has nothing to do with it.

    Nor the fact you are my go-to tank.
    Is the clan guy the goat thrower? I think I set him free because he did it to disrespect me but it's over. He did he thing, admitted his son was stupid but this is a personal thing for honor of his blood. Besides, that goat was a week's worth of food his family lost, he paid.

  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.

    Nartwak
  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • AsharadAsharad Registered User regular
    None of my games are saving to the EA save game cloud (or whatever). When I start the game is has begun to tell me it can't connect to the EA servers.

    I'm not playing MP yet so it isn't a huge deal, but it is annoying.

  • EnclaveofGnomesEnclaveofGnomes Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    And besides anything killing said character is far...far funnier.

    There's no competition for the funniest judgement imo.

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  • syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    And besides anything killing said character is far...far funnier.

    There's no competition for the funniest judgement imo.
    We are talking the fly-swarmed crate, aren't we?

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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  • lionheart_mlionheart_m Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    And besides anything killing said character is far...far funnier.

    There's no competition for the funniest judgement imo.
    We are talking the fly-swarmed crate, aren't we?

    That's the best.

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  • DecomposeyDecomposey Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    And besides anything killing said character is far...far funnier.

    There's no competition for the funniest judgement imo.
    We are talking the fly-swarmed crate, aren't we?

    That's the best.

    The best is Cullens card for the mission you can send that 'agent' on.
    Along the lines of: 'While we're being barbaric, why not put her head on a pike? No, I was kidding, we don't really... (sigh) You want her head on a pike.'

    Before following any advice, opinions, or thoughts I may have expressed in the above post, be warned: I found Keven Costners "Waterworld" to be a very entertaining film.
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  • MuzzmuzzMuzzmuzz Registered User regular
    I'm not to afraid of her, seeing as my qunari...
    Was able to beat her at the Game. Hell, she made the fatal mistake of so many villains, and left her underlings to kill me....tsk tsk. Really Florienne, you really thought your little pack of demons and assassins were going to be able to beat me, the person who eats said demons and assassins for snacks?

    To be fair, I didn't think my little gambit of confronting her in front of the whole court would work...I expected her to make a break for it and try to kill the Empress, and be killed by me.

    That being said, I shall kill her on my next playthrough, just to see what this whole crate thing is about. It sounds just as awesome, if a bit....smelly.

  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    And besides anything killing said character is far...far funnier.

    There's no competition for the funniest judgement imo.
    We are talking the fly-swarmed crate, aren't we?
    Woah, missed that. How/what/when/where/why?

  • DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Decomposey wrote: »
    The best is Cullen's card for the mission you can send that 'agent' on.
    Along the lines of: 'While we're being barbaric, why not put her head on a pike? No, I was kidding, we don't really... (sigh) You want her head on a pike.'

    I started enjoying the war table infinitely more when I finally slowed down and read the descriptions and outcomes instead of choosing the agent with the shortest completion time. They're delightful!

    Didgeridoo on
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  • BlackjackBlackjack Registered User regular
    Didgeridoo wrote: »
    Decomposey wrote: »
    The best is Cullen's card for the mission you can send that 'agent' on.
    Along the lines of: 'While we're being barbaric, why not put her head on a pike? No, I was kidding, we don't really... (sigh) You want her head on a pike.'

    I started enjoying the war table infinitely more when I finally slowed down and read the descriptions and outcomes instead of choosing the agent with the shortest completion time. They're delightful!
    I love reading them and seeing just how crazy Leliana is.

    Josephine: "We can spend a bit of gold to solve the problem and earn favors"
    Cullen: "Send some soldiers to act as guards/scouts"
    Leliana: "KILL THEM ALL AND LET THE MAKER SORT IT OUT"

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  • EnclaveofGnomesEnclaveofGnomes Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    syndalis wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Muzzmuzz wrote: »
    The funny thing is that it's a win-win for both me and him, he gets to go and harass the country he really wanted to harass, I get him out of my hair, and get to indirectly poke Tevinter in the eye.


    Speaking of which, I forgot my favourite judgment: Winter Palace Spoilers:
    Duchess Florienne? I managed to capture her alive, and now she preforms as a Jester.... in flat footed shoes...

    I'm a monster.
    That's a horrible decision.
    The woman is a dangerous assassin.
    One moment she'll be dancing like a monkey for you and the next you'll feel lightheaded and notice a crimson stream gushing out of your neck.

    And besides anything killing said character is far...far funnier.

    There's no competition for the funniest judgement imo.
    We are talking the fly-swarmed crate, aren't we?
    Woah, missed that. How/what/when/where/why?

    I knew someone would of recorded and chucked it on youtube:

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  • Pixelated PixiePixelated Pixie They/Them Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Anyone seen any official word on the FPS going down after patch 2? The game runs on dual/tri cores now on its own, but actually seems worse besides that and then people who have quadcores seem to be reporting less FPS/stuttering/brief freezing too.
    I have a quadcore and I'm still getting less performance than I did before the first patch. I feel like the draw distance or the high quality texture distance is way farther maybe?

    Regardless, I get minor hitching every 3-4 seconds while running around. Combat is usually pretty OK. I haven't delved into the settings yet to try and figure out which is causing the problem.

    I have demonstrably worse performance post-patch. The game still runs nice and smooth with no hitching or anything, but FPS is lower. Pre-patch, I could run at maxed settings and the in-game benchmark reported 42 min FPS, 47 average. Post-patch, at max settings I'm getting 35 min, 38 average. It's not enough to make me lower settings or anything, but it's a fairly sizeable difference.

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    ironzerg wrote: »
    Chipmunks are like nature's nipple clamps, I guess?
  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    I haven't noticed an FPS drop, but I did notice that shiny hair came back, even with meshes on high.

    Wicked eyes and wicked hearts:
    How do you spare Florianne? I got her as a boss fight and it seemed like my only option was to kill her.

  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    Frei wrote: »
    it's some religious people singing a hymn in a time of ridiculously huge peril. religious people sing hymns every time they go in for service in a lot of places. it's nothing out of the ordinary, some of you just have a super narrow view of the world and an especially huge void where your knowledge of any culture other than internet culture resides. the only thing really off is the audio mixing where it seems like they're singing in a studio all the sudden.

    I thought it about it some more and yeah you're right, i think it was mostly the mixing and i was ignoring the context of the scene.

    Internet is fucking with me something fierce lately.

  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    I haven't noticed an FPS drop, but I did notice that shiny hair came back, even with meshes on high.

    Wicked eyes and wicked hearts:
    How do you spare Florianne? I got her as a boss fight and it seemed like my only option was to kill her.
    Answer:
    Gather enough evidence, then confront her immediately instead of letting her attack anybody. It's pretty epic.

  • EtiowsaEtiowsa Registered User regular
    I haven't noticed an FPS drop, but I did notice that shiny hair came back, even with meshes on high.

    Wicked eyes and wicked hearts:
    How do you spare Florianne? I got her as a boss fight and it seemed like my only option was to kill her.
    You need very high court approval, at least above 90. If you have that, you'll get the option to confront her publicly about the assassination instead of sneaking up on her or letting it happen.

    jdarksun
  • GONG-00GONG-00 Registered User regular
    Etiowsa wrote: »
    I haven't noticed an FPS drop, but I did notice that shiny hair came back, even with meshes on high.

    Wicked eyes and wicked hearts:
    How do you spare Florianne? I got her as a boss fight and it seemed like my only option was to kill her.
    You need very high court approval, at least above 90. If you have that, you'll get the option to confront her publicly about the assassination instead of sneaking up on her or letting it happen.
    It's amusing to think Florianne regularly wears her ninja pantaloons under her fancy dresses everyday just for such occasions. I don't want to think about where she keeps the bow though...

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Social-fu combat!? In my Dragon Age?!

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.

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  • Mild ConfusionMild Confusion Smash All Things Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.

    Is that why you never play online whilst I'm drinking?

    Cause I sing off key?

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.

    Is that why you never play online whilst I'm drinking?

    Cause I sing off key?

    I have yet to hear you sing, sir!

    But I haven't played any DA multi. The combat doesn't interest me overmuch, I'm afraid. But one of these days when I'm done exploring the single player content, I will certainly play some rounds with you. :)

  • envoy1envoy1 the old continentRegistered User regular
    Is there a song where every word is smash? Because that's the soundtrack whenever Mild Confusion played ME3MP. Smashing pumpkins?

  • johnmd20johnmd20 Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.

    Is that why you never play online whilst I'm drinking?

    Cause I sing off key?

    I'm going to go ahead and guess that is one of the many reasons.

  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    One thing I've noticed post-patch -- I'm now getting banters at the war table. Or was that always a thing and I'm just hyper-aware now?

    Also, post-hotfix I haven't seen any of the (presumably SLI-related) texture-flickering, so am cautiously optimistic. Although I should probably reload a Haven save just to make sure -- that's where it was always the most apparent.

  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    One thing I've noticed post-patch -- I'm now getting banters at the war table. Or was that always a thing and I'm just hyper-aware now?

    Also, post-hotfix I haven't seen any of the (presumably SLI-related) texture-flickering, so am cautiously optimistic. Although I should probably reload a Haven save just to make sure -- that's where it was always the most apparent.

    They've always bantered at the war table. My first run was Cullen romance, and it was mentioned at the war table.

    jdarksun
  • SchadenfreudeSchadenfreude Mean Mister Mustard Registered User regular
    There's a great one after the Winter Palace where Leliana tells Cullen to just shut up and look pretty :D

    Contemplate this on the Tree of Woe
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  • johnmd20johnmd20 Registered User regular
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    One thing I've noticed post-patch -- I'm now getting banters at the war table. Or was that always a thing and I'm just hyper-aware now?

    Also, post-hotfix I haven't seen any of the (presumably SLI-related) texture-flickering, so am cautiously optimistic. Although I should probably reload a Haven save just to make sure -- that's where it was always the most apparent.

    Yes, I've gotten banters at the War Room table and they have picked up in the past two weeks, that much is true. But I don't think it has anything to do with the patch b/c I'm on XboxOne and I haven't gotten it yet.

  • cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Um.. wasn't that hymn supposed to be the Chant of Light? Which every Andrastian is supposed to know at least a bit?

    I assumed it was.

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  • CambiataCambiata Commander Shepard The likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered User regular
    edited December 2014
    cptrugged wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Um.. wasn't that hymn supposed to be the Chant of Light? Which every Andrastian is supposed to know at least a bit?

    I assumed it was.

    In Your Heart Shall Burn
    I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Yes, I expect everyone to know it, like with any popular church song. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of those folk just can't sing. Quality of singing is what I'm talking about, not whether someone knows the notes.

    Cambiata on
  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.

    Sera would put 3 through your face for sitting on such a high horse.

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  • cptruggedcptrugged I think it has something to do with free will. Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    cptrugged wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Um.. wasn't that hymn supposed to be the Chant of Light? Which every Andrastian is supposed to know at least a bit?

    I assumed it was.

    In Your Heart Shall Burn
    I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Yes, I expect everyone to know it, like with any popular church song. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of those folk just can't sing. Quality of singing is what I'm talking about, not whether someone knows the notes.

    Ah sorry, probably shouldn't have quoted you. It was more as a response to the topic at hand than yours in specific. Your's was just the last one I read.

  • DidgeridooDidgeridoo Flighty Dame Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    cptrugged wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Um.. wasn't that hymn supposed to be the Chant of Light? Which every Andrastian is supposed to know at least a bit?

    I assumed it was.

    In Your Heart Shall Burn
    I'm not sure I understand what you're asking. Yes, I expect everyone to know it, like with any popular church song. Doesn't change the fact that a lot of those folk just can't sing. Quality of singing is what I'm talking about, not whether someone knows the notes.

    I had the opposite issue with the scene, personally.
    I felt that the singing was a little too good, especially the backup singers. These guys are just ordinary people, not trained vocalists. They're singing because they've just gone through a rough time and need a reinforcement of their faith and want to mourn the dead. I liked that some of your crew was struggling with some of the notes, but singing full-voiced just the same.

    But i tend to be a bit of a sap for scenes depicting people committing themselves to something 100% even if they're not the best in the room.

    RainfallShadowhope
  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Sera would put 3 through your face for sitting on such a high horse.
    I think the Chantry is like the one thing Sera might not fuck with. She seems pretty religious for a vigilante.

  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    Cambiata wrote: »
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    One thing I've noticed post-patch -- I'm now getting banters at the war table. Or was that always a thing and I'm just hyper-aware now?

    Also, post-hotfix I haven't seen any of the (presumably SLI-related) texture-flickering, so am cautiously optimistic. Although I should probably reload a Haven save just to make sure -- that's where it was always the most apparent.

    They've always bantered at the war table. My first run was Cullen romance, and it was mentioned at the war table.

    Hypersensitive to banter it is, then. They've definitely had some good ones.

    Things for the wish list: A better way to know when you've (possibly temporarily) exhausted a conversation tree that doesn't involve, say, walking up to Iron Bull, saying, "Hello," and having "Goodbye" be the only available reply. Also, mix things up a bit when you have all those "Is there anything I should know" bits with multiple responses.

    And some kind of flag so that if a banter gets interrupted by combat (or by me foolishly clicking on something just as it starts) it gets saved & retriggered as soon as it's next available.

    Desert Leviathan
  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    Things for the wish list: A better way to know when you've (possibly temporarily) exhausted a conversation tree that doesn't involve, say, walking up to Iron Bull, saying, "Hello," and having "Goodbye" be the only available reply. Also, mix things up a bit when you have all those "Is there anything I should know" bits with multiple responses.
    I think there might be something like that already? Like if Cassandra is practicing at Haven, she's got something to say. But if she's just chilling out, she doesn't.
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    And some kind of flag so that if a banter gets interrupted by combat (or by me foolishly clicking on something just as it starts) it gets saved & retriggered as soon as it's next available.
    <walkie-talkie vibrates>
    OTIS: "Hey, I was talking to you! Like I was saying, do all Grey Wardens have beards?"

  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Sera would put 3 through your face for sitting on such a high horse.
    I think the Chantry is like the one thing Sera might not fuck with. She seems pretty religious for a vigilante.

    Cambiata's with the chantry?!
    Anyway. It's pretty clear from the dialogue she doesn't like the chantry. I don't think the chantry is an ideal target for the jennys, however, as they aren't intrinsically trying to be better than everyone else.
    Noble's are easy to justify targets as you can't be a lord without peasants.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler VARegistered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    jdarksun wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    Cambiata wrote: »
    I guess I'll hide this under In Your Heart Shall Burn spoilers, just in case.
    Singing a hymn was perfectly plausible to me, and that moment had a lot of potential.

    I think the key reason I cringe more and more every time I get to that point has nothing to do with the staging or the animation. It's that: 1) I'm a music major and 2) These people are clearly not singers. Non-singers normally work in a church setting because everyone is singing so you can't hear the bad singers so much. And generally speaking it's the good singers (like me, boast!) that would be willing to start up in the silence, getting the worse singers to join in at a point when no one can hear them. It also helps that many of the most popular hymns are popular because they are easy to sing, even for those not trained. This hymn, while beautiful, covers a slightly larger a range than is typically easy for novice singers. And Mother Giselle is clearly having some problems with the lower end of the range. Cullen's is really the worst of the main cast, he's squeaking. I think maybe the worse voices should have been allowed to blend in more.
    Sera would put 3 through your face for sitting on such a high horse.
    I think the Chantry is like the one thing Sera might not fuck with. She seems pretty religious for a vigilante.

    Cambiata's with the chantry?!
    Anyway. It's pretty clear from the dialogue she doesn't like the chantry. I don't think the chantry is an ideal target for the jennys, however, as they aren't intrinsically trying to be better than everyone else.
    Noble's are easy to justify targets as you can't be a lord without peasants.
    "...Pride" spoilers
    Afterwards, she's all like - so elfy elves worshipped DEMONS?! and you talk to her and she's totally convinced that it's just Andraste and anything else would be a demon so if the elves worshipped something it had to be a demon

  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    Things for the wish list: A better way to know when you've (possibly temporarily) exhausted a conversation tree that doesn't involve, say, walking up to Iron Bull, saying, "Hello," and having "Goodbye" be the only available reply. Also, mix things up a bit when you have all those "Is there anything I should know" bits with multiple responses.
    I think there might be something like that already? Like if Cassandra is practicing at Haven, she's got something to say. But if she's just chilling out, she doesn't.
    JOE_1967 wrote: »
    And some kind of flag so that if a banter gets interrupted by combat (or by me foolishly clicking on something just as it starts) it gets saved & retriggered as soon as it's next available.
    <walkie-talkie vibrates>
    OTIS: "Hey, I was talking to you! Like I was saying, do all Grey Wardens have beards?"

    So maybe there are cues I'm not picking up on ... wouldn't be the first time ... :)

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