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Hearthstone New Player Guide:

1. Install Game
2. Play through intro stuff (Mage training)
3. Unlock every class by defeating them
4. Choose a class and level it up to 10 in Play Mode (Casual or Constructed)
5. Do this with all the other classes
6. Go back and defeat all 9 Expert AI classes
7. Play an Arena run (it's free so don't worry about going 0-3)
8. Disenchant a card (typically a common 5 dust card)
9. Spend accumulated Gold on buying the wings of Naxxramus (700 per wing)
10. Complete Naxxramus completely for 30 new cards
11. Complete daily quests for Gold
12. Either spend Gold on packs of cards (100/pack) or Arena (150/run)
13. Repeat steps 11 and 12

Arena can earn more cards and Gold once you get good at playing it. You always get a pack of cards in Arena regardless of your record. Rewards increase as you get more wins. Therefore, earning 50 Gold will have you break even since you get a 100 Gold pack of cards automatically. 50 Gold is about 3-4 wins depending on your rewards luck. Anything more than that is pure profit.

Supplemental Card Creation Guide:

1. Do not dust cards until you have more than 2 copies of a card
2. Unless you're committed to a class, it's better to craft neutral minions first (Sylvannas, Cairne, Ragnaros, etc)
3. Dusting Gold cards earn lots more dust (unless you care about that bling look)
4. Try to only create Epic or Legendary (commons and rares will come via packs)
5. Ask us here before dusting something like a Legendary (see Legendary crafting link below)


Goblins vs Gnomes Gameplay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkdaUxWn3tE


Naxxarams pricing/cards/basic info:

http://hearthstone.gamepedia.com/Curse_of_Naxxramas


Most agreed upon order for crafting Legendary cards:

http://www.hearthpwn.com/forums/hearthstone-general/card-discussion/5258-legendary-tier-crafting-guide


General Game Information:

The game has FOUR play modes:
  • Play - Build a 30-card deck and fight people in ranked or unranked matches.
  • Solo Adventures - Practice against the AI or enter the Single Player themed adventures like The Curse of Naxxramas.
  • Arena - Pay 150g, then pick a hero from a random selection of 3 heroes and draft a deck from a random pool of cards presented to you three at a time. Then battle other people who went through the same process to receive treasures!

Hearthstone revolves around two heroes summoning minions in a goal to bring the enemy hero to zero life. Think of it as a simpler version of Magic that favors quicker matches, and you're on the right track.

Here are class intros and pretty pictures:
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Hero Power: Gain 1 Armor and +1 Attack this turn.
Style: Can accelerate with mana-boosting cards like Innervate. Many cards have two options, allowing for flexibility. Enjoys a good buff.
Weaknesses: Flexible cards tend to be overpriced. Weaker early game without acceleration. Lacks direct removal.
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Hero Power: Deal 2 damage to opposing hero.
Style: Utilizes minions to rush down opponent. Great synergy with beast minions. Cheap removal.
Weaknesses: Removal tends to be random targets or secrets that can be played around. Beasts are typically mediocre without hunter synergies. Hero power has no effect on the board.
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Hero Power: Deal 1 damage to any character.
Style: Lots of direct damage spells, and spells in general. Very control-oriented, using freeze and removal to keep enemies at bay. Polymorph is one of the best removal spells. Strong AoE damage. Strong finisher via Pyroblast.
Weaknesses: Only has a handful of solid minions. Incredibly vulnerable without any spells. Can be hamstrung if opponent heals enough.
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Hero Power: Summon a 1/1 Silver Hand Recruit minion.
Style: Enjoys buffing minions and debuffing enemies. Great for weenie decks, but enjoys a slower, somewhat control-oriented game. Solid weapons, and lots of card draw.
Weaknesses: Has poor direct removal. Card draw is good, but either situational (Divine Favor) or expensive (Lay on Hands).
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Hero Power: Restores 2 HP to a character.
Style: Control-oriented. Loves to buff minions, particularly HP. Steals opponents' crap, potentially resulting in massive card advantage. Lots of direct removal.
Weaknesses: Weak in the early game. Direct removal is conditional or expensive. People will think you're a jerk.
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Hero Power: Summon a 1/2 weapon.
Unique Mechanic: Combo. Cards have an additional effect if you've already played a card earlier in the turn.
Style: Tends to go for rush-down. Lots of direct damage and weapons. Combo allows for cheap, powerful effects.
Weaknesses: Vulnerable late-game. Combo can lead to unfavorable opening hands. AoE spells tend to be poor.
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Hero Power: Summons one of the following totems at random: Stoneclaw (0/2 Taunt), Healing (0/2, restores 1 HP to all friendly minions at end of turn), Searing Totem (1/1), Wrath of Air (0/2, +1 Spell Damage)
Unique Mechanic: Overload. You will be unable to spend X mana on your next turn. Think Echo from Magic and you're on the right track.
Style: Has a lot of play styles, being able to sling spells, use weapons, and solid minions. Overload allows for very efficient turns. Hex is among the best direct removal.
Weaknesses: Vulnerable on turns AFTER overload. Hero power is random, which will burn you.
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Hero Power: Gain 2 Armor.
Style: Incredibly aggressive, favoring a lot of cheap enrage minions, charge, and great weapons.
Weaknesses: Worst Hero Power in the game. Removal tends to be random or conditional (Execute, Brawl). Damage spells, particularly AoE, are poor. Takes a ton of damage from weapon use.
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Hero Power: Deal 2 damage to your hero. Draw a card.
Style: Can go for an aggressive early game with very cheap demons. Hero Power is among the best in the game. Good synergy with demons.
Weaknesses: Powerful cards tend to have bad drawbacks. Removal tends to be weak (Mortal Coil) or carry big drawbacks (Soulfire). Hero Power can hurt your late game.


Grobian's list of less intuitive facts:
  • Max handsize is 10 cards. Any card over that is drawn then immediately destroyed.
  • You can't have more than 7 minions on the board.
  • If you draw from an empty deck, each "card" you draw instead damages you, beginning at 1 damage and increasing by 1 damage each draw.
  • If multiple things happen at the same time (e.g. trigger at the end of the turn) they happen in the order their respective cards have been played.
  • There are hidden quests/achievements that award gold, notably: 100g for beating all Expert AIs, 100g for playing every class to level 10 and 300g for 100 wins total.
  • The Shaman hero power always calls one of the 4 totems that isn't out yet. If you get a totem bounced to your hand, you can play a second one, though.
  • The hunter spell Animal Companion just calls a random of the 3 possible minions.
  • The Warlock spell Sense Demons gives you 1/1 imps for 1 mana if you don't have (any more) demons in your deck.
  • Stealth overrides Taunt, not the other way around.
  • Stealth is only for the enemy, you can buff your stealthed minions.
  • Priest: Shadowform refreshes your hero power, so you can use it twice in a turn.
  • Druid: Wild Growth at 10 mana crystals awards you a spell "Excess Mana" which draws a card for 0.
  • More comprehensive list of oddities here
Hearthstone strategy and resource links
Easy intro to Hearthstone in an image.
Full daily quest list here.
TeamLiquid's new Hearthstone siteLiquidHearth
TeamLiquid's Hearthstone Article Portal, a collection of all articles they've done. A good place to start.
HearthHead - Best Arena draft practice, decklists, deck builder, card db
Hearthpwn - Practice Arena drafts, decklists, deck builder, card db. Same stuff different layout.
Chrome Hearthstone Card mouseover extension - Easily find out what all those cards people are talking about do without leaving the thread!
Trump's Neutral Common guide for Arena


Here's a cheat-sheet for all the Secrets in the game:

http://i.imgur.com/gBpK4Yz.jpg


Here's a deck-tracking google spreadsheet made by our own Muffintron:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1a7ucOq8Jv3Ooes694eXxIOdX-zsCuFA_PeSyuVZsUvA/edit?usp=sharing

From Muffintron:

I've got it set-up so that I have a folder for each of the classes, and a spreadsheet for each deck, then I use individual sheets within that spreadsheet to keep track of the deck changes over time.

Just go File -> Make a copy to get a copy on to your google drive.

To use: put in the cards for the deck: Quantity, Mana cost, Name, Type (Spell, Weapon or Minion) and Rarity (Soulbound, Common, Rare, Epic, Legendary and Naxxramas).

The sheet should take care of the rest.



Decent streamers/youtube clips to watch, to learn!


Finally, here's a list of PA people who don't mind if you spectate while they play.

mnc dover/mncdover#1994
hippofant/hippofant#1651
crucialityfactor/cruciality#1743
Webber/Webber #1330
Ing/Inq#1974
MMMig/MMMig#1238
Grobian/grobian#1937
Creamstout/Pub#1592

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  • crucialityfactorcrucialityfactor Registered User regular
    I feel like these new cards are going to cost me some games. I almost missed two lethals this morning because I was more concerned with having fun with the cards than doing math. Also had some majorly BM bomb lobbers upon looking back...plus that whole siphoning soul my imp to clear space for the aforementioned lobber of bombs.

  • rembrandtqeinsteinrembrandtqeinstein Registered User regular
    new thread corresponding with my first gvg 12 win arena

    http://www.hearthhead.com/deck=81696/12-win-gvg-shaman-double-bloodlust

    2nd bloodlust was over 8th 3 drop and I don't regret it, they never clogged my hand

    I'll give bloodlust the mvp with it finishing the game almost every time, and having 2 freed me to use one as removal in the midgame

    sea giant was a close runner up almost always played at 6 or less mana

    earth elem almost never saw the table since when I had it in hand I was scared to play it unless I had played the sea giant previously to bait removal

    and I'm almost positive I would take stormforged over fire elemental if I had neither

    goblin sapper was the big loser never once having its power activated, so it was always a vanilla 2/3 for 3 mana

    rewards were 2 pack, 245 gold, golden inner fire

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    This prelaunch event is fucking genius. You get the patch out early so there are no launch day problems, build up hype for the release, and you drain people of gold on Arena runs that just give basic packs so they have to spend real cash money when launch day arrives.

    Brilliant.

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  • Atlas in ChainsAtlas in Chains Registered User regular
    I got a shadowboxer out of the shredder while playing shaman during arena. I had out a healing totem, Wild Pyro, and a completely full board. Couple spells later and that boxer did some work!

  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    I'll throw out that I'm fine with people spectating me, as well. Watch my priestly shenanigans and have some empathy salt for my opponents.

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  • Steel AngelSteel Angel Registered User regular
    This prelaunch event is fucking genius. You get the patch out early so there are no launch day problems, build up hype for the release, and you drain people of gold on Arena runs that just give basic packs so they have to spend real cash money when launch day arrives.

    Brilliant.

    Compared to prerelease events in MtGO, which cost to join to mirror the real life events, the Hearthstone approach is much more engaging since it gives the players some stuff for free so everyone has sometime to look forward to and winds up doing some stress testing with that free arena entry.

    Big Dookie wrote: »
    I found that tilting it doesn't work very well, and once I started jerking it, I got much better results.

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Rius annoy-o-tron is the best card in the set. That entrance sound clip. He's like a wrestler strolling down the to mat.

    Roz on
  • hippofanthippofant ティンク Registered User regular
    I'll throw out that I'm fine with people spectating me, as well. Watch my priestly shenanigans and have some empathy salt for my opponents.

    I didn't even ask!

    (Does going like... busy prevent spectation? Do people actually want to not be spectated?)

  • Duke 2.0Duke 2.0 Time Trash Cat Registered User regular
    BlindDuke#1901

    I just started playing, so if somebody feels like hopping in and yelling at me that I'm doing dumb things feel free

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  • AhiMahiAhiMahi Registered User regular
    This prelaunch event is fucking genius. You get the patch out early so there are no launch day problems, build up hype for the release, and you drain people of gold on Arena runs that just give basic packs so they have to spend real cash money when launch day arrives.

    Brilliant.

    Was thinking same. Their product manager should get a raise for this launch.

    Free arena game was bunkers.

    Drafted unstable portal. First try, I got a parrot. Second try, got legendary dude which puts 3 murdoc cards in my hand for 4 mana. Put him down at turn 4 and win a game by turn 6. Third try, got legendary dude which gave +1 hero power and this won another game as mage.

    Used Recombobulator to turn my dying 3 mana card into alarm bot. He was swapped out with bigger version of shredder. He died gave life to smaller shredder. Smaller shredder died and gave life to little dude which gets +1 attack each turn. Max value.

    I can't wait for 8th. I hope about 2000 gold saved up but I'm tempted to spend real money these new cards.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2014
    I will say this; Jeeves on the table for more than a turn makes for some very entertaining games.

    "Oh, let me get that for you, sir!"

    Rius on
  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited December 2014
    Ahahaha, apparently since GvG is technically live on the servers (with the option to buy GvG packs disabled), Webspinner can get GvG beasts in constructed.

    Sterica on
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  • Who-PsydWho-Psyd Registered User regular
    Free Arena run was fun, did not do well but losing because my opponent top decked a Hunter's Mark to have his Webspinner kill my Zombie Chow which got him a Gahz'rilla and out of lethal range was certainly something to see.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    I expect screenshots of amazing games people.

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  • webberwebber Registered User regular
    This prelaunch event is fucking genius. You get the patch out early so there are no launch day problems, build up hype for the release, and you drain people of gold on Arena runs that just give basic packs so they have to spend real cash money when launch day arrives.

    Brilliant.

    Compared to prerelease events in MtGO, which cost to join to mirror the real life events, the Hearthstone approach is much more engaging since it gives the players some stuff for free so everyone has sometime to look forward to and winds up doing some stress testing with that free arena entry.

    Suck it Blizzard. I'm +10 gold after factoring in quests! And when I buy 5 packs on Monday we'll really see who's laughing.

    This lucky penny is bullshit.
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  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
  • The Escape GoatThe Escape Goat incorrigible ruminant they/themRegistered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I expect screenshots of amazing games people.

    So Micro Machine + Upgraded Heal Bot is pretty legit.
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    Also, Hippofant spectated an entire rogue arena of mine and that was pretty fun. Went 7-3, made a gold profit, and unpacked Grommash, making that two legendaries today!

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  • LykouraghLykouragh Registered User regular
    AhiMahi wrote: »
    This prelaunch event is fucking genius. You get the patch out early so there are no launch day problems, build up hype for the release, and you drain people of gold on Arena runs that just give basic packs so they have to spend real cash money when launch day arrives.

    Brilliant.

    Third try, got legendary dude which gave +1 hero power ....

    What card is this?

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    My shredder was piloted by an annoy-o-tron

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  • GarthorGarthor Registered User regular
    Lykouragh wrote: »
    AhiMahi wrote: »
    This prelaunch event is fucking genius. You get the patch out early so there are no launch day problems, build up hype for the release, and you drain people of gold on Arena runs that just give basic packs so they have to spend real cash money when launch day arrives.

    Brilliant.

    Third try, got legendary dude which gave +1 hero power ....

    What card is this?

    Prophet Velen probably.

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Just did a rogue draft, got offered 1x Auto-Barber, 1x Assassin's Blade, 1x Perdition's Blade and 6x Tinkerer's Sharpsword Oil. I took 3 of the latter; should be interesting.

    Edit: How anti-climactic; in my first game, I drew 17 cards and only saw the Assassin's Blade. Still won though.

    Edit Edit: Weaponrogue would be a lot of fun with mech synergy and Ancient Repair Bots.

    Rius on
  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    MNC Dover wrote: »
    I expect screenshots of amazing games people.

    All of my mage games so far have been rather uninteresting :( Rius can confirm.

    "Oh he's at six health, and I have fireball. Guess I use it."

    "Oh he's got three minions all with 4 HP, and I have flamestrike. Guess I use it."

    "Oh he played Gahz'rilla. That's cool. Guess I sheep it."


    I remember why I hate this class so much ><

  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    Mage arena with no fireballs offered. Only one frost bolt, but two Flames strikes. So far so fun. Unstable portal netted me a Cabal Shadow Priest and nothing else exciting so far. 3 wins and counting! (4 is my personal record so not expecting much more)

  • MMMigMMMig Registered User regular
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    Witty signature comment goes here...

    wra
  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    coin mechwarper turn 1, iron sensei turn 2 was pretty fun in arena last night I will say

    So It Goes on
  • AbsurdPropositionAbsurdProposition Registered User regular
    The free arena ticket is only valid until December 8th right? If so it looks like I should finally finish my 5-0 Hunter run I started back in February.

    Also, another bad day picture, this time for an unfortunate Zoo player:
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  • CreamstoutCreamstout What you think I program for, to push a fuckin' quad-core? Registered User regular
    The free arena ticket is only valid until December 8th right? If so it looks like I should finally finish my 5-0 Hunter run I started back in February.

    Also, another bad day picture, this time for an unfortunate Zoo player:
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    If you log in before December 8th you are guaranteed a free Arena Ticket even if you have an Arena going.

  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    as long as you log in you get a free run. you can definitely wait to use it.

    it's funny I've spent ahem, some money on this game but I am finding it easy to hold off on arena right now even though it's a single run and I do kinda want to mess with new cards. I think any money I spend on gvg packs will be harder to swallow if I know I threw even one arena away. also I had a tendency to waste gold and dust for a while and I'm really trying to get away from it.

    ... this probably won't be my last post on the topic before tuesday. hopefully none of em are about me caving, unless I have a damn good screenshot for dover along with it :P

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  • So It GoesSo It Goes We keep moving...Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    whoops this isn't the chat thread!

    vari - I am saving all my gold for packs. join me. no arenas. not even once.

    So It Goes on
  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    So It Goes wrote: »
    whoops this isn't the chat thread!

    vari - I am saving all my gold for packs. join me. no arenas. not even once.

    can I save it for post-launch arenas? that I'll swear on.

    and you have to watch me do one one day

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  • CreamstoutCreamstout What you think I program for, to push a fuckin' quad-core? Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Some more Bad Day picks, got pretty lucky with a Mech Rogue Draft. I may of overdone it with 5 Goblin Auto-Barbers.
    Force Tank Max:
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    Into a nice Kel'Thuzad:
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    Mage had a bad day as well, double Iron Sensei gives 0 shits about skillstrike:
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    Creamstout on
  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    I can't wait to watch PAers and make comments.

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  • RozRoz Boss of InternetRegistered User regular
    Back to back 12 wins feels really good. Thank you for the free entry blizzard!

    The deck:

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  • SensationalSensational Registered User regular
    Back to back 12's are nice, where did the gold from the first 12 go though? :o :P Last chance at some classic packs or what.

    Just had an 8 win followed by a 9 win run myself; game is hella fun with the new cards. There is so much strong stuff you can pull off though, feels like it's impossible to predict much anymore or even play around anything. It's more of a "I'll show you mine you show me yours" kind of gameplay. Drafting is super interesting though.

  • MNC DoverMNC Dover Full-time Voice Actor Kirkland, WARegistered User regular
    Had another idea for a new Hearthstone card. It would be based around a minion that takes no damage from spells, affects, or AoE. Kind of like a Faerie Dragon or Spectral Knight instead that it can't be hurt/removed by spells (sheep, frog, silence, etc). Battlecries, minions, and weapons would work but that would be it. Too powerful? Under/over costed?

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  • A-PuckA-Puck Registered User regular
    edited December 2014
    Way too powerful/undercosted. 2 stat points for immunity to magic damage? that's nuts.

    e: hell, if it were a 5/5 for 8 I'd put 2 in almost every deck. Then again, I'm kind of bad at this game.

    A-Puck on
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  • Big Red TieBig Red Tie beautiful clydesdale style feet too hot to trotRegistered User regular
    edited December 2014
    if anything it should get +1 stats but instead of being permanently immune, it should be divine shield for spells

    which would be more in line with what a death knight does (anti magic shell) and more balanced

    Big Red Tie on
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  • SensationalSensational Registered User regular
    Here's my contribution

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    8 wins into this run, man priest is hard work!

  • GoodKingJayIIIGoodKingJayIII They wanna get my gold on the ceilingRegistered User regular
    I just don't have the patience for arena. I dunno what it is, but I always just end up retiring when things go poorly. I guess something about not picking exactly the cards I want bugs me.

    Oh well. I understand we're getting some free packs at the official GvG start. Plus I've got 1100 gold banked, and I will probably spend some money too. That should give me a good start on the collection.

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  • VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    I think you have to make it a 7+/x so bgh can kill it if it's gonna have that crazy of an ability. make it an 8 cost legendary.

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