minor incidentexpert in a dying fieldnjRegistered Userregular
Feels a bit weird to hold off dumping a shitload of mats into the one piece of VoG gear my Titan got last week after a long dry spell since I know I can just grind out a few more crucible marks and get something way better.
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
My shitty luck pre-expansion continues to turn around in The Dark Below! Just decoded a blue engram into a legendary shotgun: Two to the Morgue. Which, in a game with tons of great item names, is one of the finest.
It seems to be all about giving you shotguns
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My shitty luck pre-expansion continues to turn around in The Dark Below! Just decoded a blue engram into a legendary shotgun: Two to the Morgue. Which, in a game with tons of great item names, is one of the finest.
It seems to be all about giving you shotguns
I only got 1 weapon out of 3 rank ups, a shotgun called Secret Handshake, its range is so short it goes from shotgun pellets to marshmellow puffs almost as soon as it leaves the barrel, no range bonuses, its pretty much thrash.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
I played through the Eris missions and her Bounty/Quest chain last night before culminating in a normal, non Weekly or Nightfall run through the new STRIKE.
I had fun, I have to admit. I agree that it felt like a good ending to the storyline that had been built up around the Hive in the initial game.
You hear stories about Crota in the main game, get a glimpse of an artifact of his, destroy a beacon to his "Father"...and then, to avenge a wounded Guardian, you finish what she started. And this is before I've run the new raid, so I imagine that may be the real "ending" but the one I got so far was pretty satisfying. Like GI JOE destroying the pieces to the Weather Dominator (not that they did that in the show, mind you).
I'm still not sold on the LL increase and how they are going about it. I realized I was trying to come up with story line reasons for this gear to not have existed before, in an effort to ease my acceptance of it. I'm sure I can come up with one, but still...I think they should have set the LLs out before. Like say "Eventually, gear will appear that will let you hit LL40, but for now, you can only hit LL30." This haphazard way seems to be making an old Legendary feel not so Legendary, and ditto for Exotics. And you know they are going to do the same for the second expansion.
I guess it's like "This is my gear to get me through VoG, this is my gear to get me through The Dark Below, and that will be my gear to get me through House of Wolves". To me, it just doesn't feel quite right.
Oh well, this is my first time doing the MMO kinda thing. Maybe this is normal but it feels off and clunky.
@Stupid - I had the same happen to me as a LL29 on the second mission, but I was trying to do the Level 30 Heroic so I could get the expanded reward. Once I dropped it down to the base Level 26, or whatever it was, I burned through it with ease. That 1 level of difference along with the Heroic modifier was pretty rough solo. Probably would have been easier with a team of other 28s or 29s, or as a 30. Regardless, I said "Screw the Ascendant reward" and just burned through it. Did the same for the last Story mission. Went much quicker.
EDIT: DAMN IT! I said Raid when I meant Strike. I haven't been on the new Raid yet, just the new Hive Strike.
I played through the Eris missions and her Bounty/Quest chain last night before culminating in a normal, non Weekly or Nightfall run through the new Raid.
I had fun, I have to admit. I agree that it felt like a good ending to the storyline that had been built up around the Hive in the initial game.
You hear stories about Crota in the main game, get a glimpse of an artifact of his, destroy a beacon to his "Father"...and then, to avenge a wounded Guardian, you finish what she started. And this is before I've run the new raid, so I imagine that may be the real "ending" but the one I got so far was pretty satisfying. Like GI JOE destroying the pieces to the Weather Dominator (not that they did that in the show, mind you).
I'm still not sold on the LL increase and how they are going about it. I realized I was trying to come up with story line reasons for this gear to not have existed before, in an effort to ease my acceptance of it. I'm sure I can come up with one, but still...I think they should have set the LLs out before. Like say "Eventually, gear will appear that will let you hit LL40, but for now, you can only hit LL30." This haphazard way seems to be making an old Legendary feel not so Legendary, and ditto for Exotics. And you know they are going to do the same for the second expansion.
I guess it's like "This is my gear to get me through VoG, this is my gear to get me through The Dark Below, and that will be my gear to get me through House of Wolves". To me, it just doesn't feel quite right.
Oh well, this is my first time doing the MMO kinda thing. Maybe this is normal but it feels off and clunky.
@Stupid - I had the same happen to me as a LL29 on the second mission, but I was trying to do the Level 30 Heroic so I could get the expanded reward. Once I dropped it down to the base Level 26, or whatever it was, I burned through it with ease. That 1 level of difference along with the Heroic modifier was pretty rough solo. Probably would have been easier with a team of other 28s or 29s, or as a 30. Regardless, I said "Screw the Ascendant reward" and just burned through it. Did the same for the last Story mission. Went much quicker.
It is indeed completely normal. New expansion? New pants.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
@minor incident
Were we resuming the raid tonight or tomorrow?
Hopefully tonight! I know @cardboard delusions said he wanted to resume tonight. Not sure about the others. Well, team?
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
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CrayonSleeps in the wrong bed.TejasRegistered Userregular
I really don't like commendations. I suppose I'm just not a fan of them putting a restriction on something that wasn't there in general. They should have had something in place that for every two/three levels you already had you got a "thanks" care package. They should have had something like trade in one piece of VoG gear for X marks or a discount to the new gear since right out of the gate vendor gear outclasses actual raid gear.
I guess at its core they just need to make people feel like they haven't wasted their time so quickly (three month intervals) by giving them a trade in program, even if it's minimal.
I get they want to incentivize new players and I'm totally cool with that, I'm super not cool with being outclassed instantly and having vendor gear outshine it and even necessary. Previous tiers are supposed to HELP in the new tier, not be junked the day of.
And that's the total sum of my griping and the only post dedicated to it because there really is so much awesome in the game, but Bungie needs to figure out how to make an mmo since it's obvious they're going for the systems of them now.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
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What's the plan tonight? Do we wanna make a run at Crota? Or do a "forgot some loot" VoG run? Or heck, maybe we just wanna make some runs at the new, high level weekly and nightfall? I'm up for whatever.
I'm up for whatever you guys want to do. I still kinda want to run VoG on occasion to get the Warlock gloves and complete my "VoG collection," but I'm in no rush whatsoever. If left to my own devices I'll be running Eris-related stuff (bounties on Hunter, missions/bounties on Warlock/Titan). I have Team NATburn raid starting at 11pm EST (maybe earlier?) tonight.
Throw me a party invite and we'll at least banter while we shoot mans, even if we're doing different things.
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So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
I was 29 when the dlc came out and the "normal" difficulty on the new missions was like stupidly easy. I'm not saying that as in "get good, noob" but more as like... maybe you selected the level 30 missions by mistake? Because those were nearly impossible for me.
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jefe414"My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter"Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered Userregular
So I just discovered I can store vanguard/crucible commendations in the vault and I presume pass them to other characters. I'm happy about this.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
bug out
Britsh Army slang - To move away from your current location very qucickly (often under fire) becasue your position has been compromised by the enemy.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
So at some point are there going to be so many required materials/currency/whatever that they'll have to increase your inventory just to make it possible to hold all of that crap?
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
His post doesn't state his level, either. I would still say that if you empty a heavy clip into her she will take damage, plus he shouldn't be dying to her. I kill the thralls, and that's it.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
His post doesn't state his level, either. I would still say that if you empty a heavy clip into her she will take damage, plus he shouldn't be dying to her. I kill the thralls, and that's it.
He said he was level 28.
Everything looks beautiful when you're young and pretty
So at some point are there going to be so many required materials/currency/whatever that they'll have to increase your inventory just to make it possible to hold all of that crap?
Nope! Use it or lose it, hoarder!
“I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
Yes, it's the Omnigul mission, the one on the moon.
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Yes, I did notice her "trapped" in the control room. The one run where I wasn't completely overwhelmed by Thralls, I ran out of ammo without killing a lot of MOBs.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
His post doesn't state his level, either. I would still say that if you empty a heavy clip into her she will take damage, plus he shouldn't be dying to her. I kill the thralls, and that's it.
He said he was level 28.
Hold on. I'm not home so I can't test. For my part I thought he was doing the level 28 version of the mission. Upon further research, that mission is 25 or 30. But I'm 99% sure that if he's 28, and he is doing the normal version (25) then Omnigul should not even be around long enough to empty all his ammo. Also, if he is doing the 30 at 28, at the very least he should be getting her to teleport out and survive the thralls.
Edit: Beaten.
On a lighter note.
He got dem Iron Banner jeans
Shoulders with the fur
Whole pug is looking over hurr
He hit that jaw
Next thing you know
Overshield got glow, glow glow glow...
Hiryu02 on
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Yes, it's the Omnigul mission, the one on the moon.
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Yes, I did notice her "trapped" in the control room. The one run where I wasn't completely overwhelmed by Thralls, I ran out of ammo without killing a lot of MOBs.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
I see... well... that was a .... rather... *wait for it*... stupid thing to try to attempt!
“I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
The first part of the raid is on the the most enjoyable co-op experiences I have ever played.
A few of my friends sacrificed themselves to let the rest of us make it through the light from the platform and even on the bridge.
Alot of "NO! GO ON RUN! FORGET ABOUT ME! I'LL BE FINE! DON'T LOOK BACK!"
very touching and then pure joy when the rewards show up.
This was exactly our group last night.
And it was the best shit ever.
Seriously I know it's irrational and Bungie has fucked a lot of things up, but that moment alone made the whole expansion worth it.
Our first time through, we managed to get everyone up, but it was touch and go. @iSH0Twell ran after the two downed ones, I popped Radiance and started chucking grenades, and we all made it through and it was the most epic thing ever.
I'm not going to lie though, I was one of the first across the bridge, and when things got hairy I ran to the light.. Hoping to at least salvage the run. I got to the light, but had to go back to help my fallen comrades as their cries of battle tugged at my consciousness. Glad I did. Running through as a group of 6 after that was a great feeling.
and then someone ran too far and immediately died outside the light lol
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It seems to be all about giving you shotguns
I only got 1 weapon out of 3 rank ups, a shotgun called Secret Handshake, its range is so short it goes from shotgun pellets to marshmellow puffs almost as soon as it leaves the barrel, no range bonuses, its pretty much thrash.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
I had fun, I have to admit. I agree that it felt like a good ending to the storyline that had been built up around the Hive in the initial game.
I'm still not sold on the LL increase and how they are going about it. I realized I was trying to come up with story line reasons for this gear to not have existed before, in an effort to ease my acceptance of it. I'm sure I can come up with one, but still...I think they should have set the LLs out before. Like say "Eventually, gear will appear that will let you hit LL40, but for now, you can only hit LL30." This haphazard way seems to be making an old Legendary feel not so Legendary, and ditto for Exotics. And you know they are going to do the same for the second expansion.
I guess it's like "This is my gear to get me through VoG, this is my gear to get me through The Dark Below, and that will be my gear to get me through House of Wolves". To me, it just doesn't feel quite right.
Oh well, this is my first time doing the MMO kinda thing. Maybe this is normal but it feels off and clunky.
@Stupid - I had the same happen to me as a LL29 on the second mission, but I was trying to do the Level 30 Heroic so I could get the expanded reward. Once I dropped it down to the base Level 26, or whatever it was, I burned through it with ease. That 1 level of difference along with the Heroic modifier was pretty rough solo. Probably would have been easier with a team of other 28s or 29s, or as a 30. Regardless, I said "Screw the Ascendant reward" and just burned through it. Did the same for the last Story mission. Went much quicker.
EDIT: DAMN IT! I said Raid when I meant Strike. I haven't been on the new Raid yet, just the new Hive Strike.
It is indeed completely normal. New expansion? New pants.
That... seems like it would be useful.
Seems to be 'rapidly kill 4 hive with a heavy weapon' five times. Just googled it and watched a youtube vidya.
if so, psn: robo_wizard1
PSN: Robo_Wizard1
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Were we resuming the raid tonight or tomorrow?
Hopefully tonight! I know @cardboard delusions said he wanted to resume tonight. Not sure about the others. Well, team?
I guess at its core they just need to make people feel like they haven't wasted their time so quickly (three month intervals) by giving them a trade in program, even if it's minimal.
I get they want to incentivize new players and I'm totally cool with that, I'm super not cool with being outclassed instantly and having vendor gear outshine it and even necessary. Previous tiers are supposed to HELP in the new tier, not be junked the day of.
And that's the total sum of my griping and the only post dedicated to it because there really is so much awesome in the game, but Bungie needs to figure out how to make an mmo since it's obvious they're going for the systems of them now.
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I'm up for whatever you guys want to do. I still kinda want to run VoG on occasion to get the Warlock gloves and complete my "VoG collection," but I'm in no rush whatsoever. If left to my own devices I'll be running Eris-related stuff (bounties on Hunter, missions/bounties on Warlock/Titan). I have Team NATburn raid starting at 11pm EST (maybe earlier?) tonight.
Throw me a party invite and we'll at least banter while we shoot mans, even if we're doing different things.
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
Back to Netflix for a bit.
No Downton Abbey for Dngs to watch.
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I figured out that
You can see her summoning her wizards in the control room window.
I think he's using the idiom, not saying that she bugs out as in glitches?
I was 29 when the dlc came out and the "normal" difficulty on the new missions was like stupidly easy. I'm not saying that as in "get good, noob" but more as like... maybe you selected the level 30 missions by mistake? Because those were nearly impossible for me.
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Britsh Army slang - To move away from your current location very qucickly (often under fire) becasue your position has been compromised by the enemy.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
His post doesn't state his level, either. I would still say that if you empty a heavy clip into her she will take damage, plus he shouldn't be dying to her. I kill the thralls, and that's it.
He said he was level 28.
Nope! Use it or lose it, hoarder!
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
Hold on. I'm not home so I can't test. For my part I thought he was doing the level 28 version of the mission. Upon further research, that mission is 25 or 30. But I'm 99% sure that if he's 28, and he is doing the normal version (25) then Omnigul should not even be around long enough to empty all his ammo. Also, if he is doing the 30 at 28, at the very least he should be getting her to teleport out and survive the thralls.
Edit: Beaten.
On a lighter note.
He got dem Iron Banner jeans
Shoulders with the fur
Whole pug is looking over hurr
He hit that jaw
Next thing you know
Overshield got glow, glow glow glow...
I see... well... that was a .... rather... *wait for it*... stupid thing to try to attempt!
I'm not drinking Miller.
Our first time through, we managed to get everyone up, but it was touch and go. @iSH0Twell ran after the two downed ones, I popped Radiance and started chucking grenades, and we all made it through and it was the most epic thing ever.
I'm not going to lie though, I was one of the first across the bridge, and when things got hairy I ran to the light.. Hoping to at least salvage the run. I got to the light, but had to go back to help my fallen comrades as their cries of battle tugged at my consciousness. Glad I did. Running through as a group of 6 after that was a great feeling.