Funniest thing about the LL increase is all the warnings that the LL 30 Vault gear is going to drive you crazy but maybe it's worth it for the POWER... oh yeah the Vanguard actually has better shit by the way. Doesn't make you crazy or anything.
Random Tidbits:
-New raid is making me glad that I have an Alpha Lupi chest leveled on all my alts; it's actually a viable choice now (this will change in January for hard-modes, again, assuming the no-revive rule is in effect).
-Related to the above: I'm using different exotics now that I'm in unfamilar territory. I'm used to having the Achlyophage glued to my Hunter's head, but in the last 3 days I've also made good use of Alpha Lupi, Knucklehead Radar, and Mask of the Third Man.
-I don't think the Vex Mythoclast gives a large enough damage increase to justify it using your exotic slot; Fatebringer is beast.
-I saw a reddit post refer to the new raid upgrade materials as "RadMats" =D
-I'm still just as peeved about how the reXurbish process will invalidate my previous work after only 3 short months, but on the other hand I'm excited for new shinies (Hi, Serah! Ichabod who?).
-This game and P-A community are crazy-awesome. I would love the game by myself (that doesn't quite sound right...), but playing with you guys makes it even more epic and memorable.
Shout-outs to @Balerion for Fist of Havoc'ing and @Local H Jay for Blade Dancing into holes in the opening encounter.
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
-This game and P-A community are crazy-awesome. I would love the game by myself (that doesn't quite sound right...), but playing with you guys makes it even more epic and memorable.
Shout-outs to @Balerion for Fist of Havoc'ing and @Local H Jay for Blade Dancing into holes in the opening encounter.
My favorite moment so far might be a bit self-serving but happened in Team NATBurn
when we were doing our first attempt blind and everyone was dead after the Darkness Marathon except me and you guys were cheering me on to get to the light. That was so intense and I was so happy that when I made it, I screamed out loud and woke up my wife who had fallen asleep on the couch.
I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
Shadow Price?
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I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
@minor_incident I may actually be up tonight for the raid if a spot needs to be filled. If not, no worries.
Meanwhile, I saw a new ship in the wild yesterday. It was the Ketch Me If You Can. It was uh... really green. I would much rather have Eris's ship. Hopefully that becomes available to us. For that matter, I really wish that the Queen's Wrath would award the Awoken ship.
I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
Shadow Price?
Vanquisher?
Vanquisher has impact similar to Galahad.
Sorry, I'm kind of being roundabout here. The weapon I'm asking about is Up for Anything. I'm trying to see what it's pre-DLC equivalent is.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Yes, it's the Omnigul mission, the one on the moon.
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Yes, I did notice her "trapped" in the control room. The one run where I wasn't completely overwhelmed by Thralls, I ran out of ammo without killing a lot of MOBs.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
I see... well... that was a .... rather... *wait for it*... stupid thing to try to attempt!
Well, to be honest, I was doing the same thing, except I was LL 29 instead of 28. So, when he described what basically happened to me, I thought that it was most likely that he was doing what I had been doing: Attempting the Level 30 for those sweet sweet Ascendant Mats.
After my 12th time dying to the Heroic modifier, I said "GOOSE THIS GOOSING GOOSE" and just cut loose on the regular level.
Felt good to unleash hell on all of those bastards.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
Shadow Price?
Vanquisher?
Vanquisher has impact similar to Galahad.
Sorry, I'm kind of being roundabout here. The weapon I'm asking about is Up for Anything. I'm trying to see what it's pre-DLC equivalent is.
My Up for Anything feels a lot like my old Shadow Price. The impact is a little lower, though.
I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
Shadow Price?
Vanquisher?
Vanquisher has impact similar to Galahad.
Sorry, I'm kind of being roundabout here. The weapon I'm asking about is Up for Anything. I'm trying to see what it's pre-DLC equivalent is.
My Up for Anything feels a lot like my old Shadow Price. The impact is a little lower, though.
That is what confusing me. There isn't a direct correlation. The ROF, clip size etc are similar to the Shadow Price, which hit like a Galahad. Now it appears to be in the place of the Shadow Price. but is matching the Shingen impact instead of the Galahad.
In vanilla, all the blues had legendary equivalents, I think to promote consistency.
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
Yes, it's the Omnigul mission, the one on the moon.
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Yes, I did notice her "trapped" in the control room. The one run where I wasn't completely overwhelmed by Thralls, I ran out of ammo without killing a lot of MOBs.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
I see... well... that was a .... rather... *wait for it*... stupid thing to try to attempt!
Well, to be honest, I was doing the same thing, except I was LL 29 instead of 28. So, when he described what basically happened to me, I thought that it was most likely that he was doing what I had been doing: Attempting the Level 30 for those sweet sweet Ascendant Mats.
After my 12th time dying to the Heroic modifier, I said "GOOSE THIS GOOSING GOOSE" and just cut loose on the regular level.
Felt good to unleash hell on all of those bastards.
but... that post, directed at a person whose username wasn't "Stupid," would have a far less comical context to it. :P
“I used to draw, hard to admit that I used to draw...”
I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
Shadow Price?
Vanquisher?
Vanquisher has impact similar to Galahad.
Sorry, I'm kind of being roundabout here. The weapon I'm asking about is Up for Anything. I'm trying to see what it's pre-DLC equivalent is.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
Wait, wait!!
Are you saying I just gotta scratch her and then survive some number of respawns? Because DESPITE all the disadvantages you mention, I did (!) scratch her. After the first death the checkpoint respawns you (without a timer I should mention) right next to her spawn. After the green glowy shit happened, I just dropped a lightning grenade at her feet and watched the fireworks. I survived two (maybe three?) waves of thrall spawns after that. There was an Omnigul in there too (apparently a clone or illusion), but she would be in one place for a few seconds, then teleport somewhere else as soon as I fired a few shots in her direction, so I gave up on that. Eventually I ran out of ammo with a couple of Knights still wandering around in the middle of the "arena" area. If I just gotta tag her a few times... well, then I was probably 90% of the way there.
So.... got the new exotic helm and already have a max'd old exotic helm. While the +light levels are higher on the new 2.0 exotic, the old exotic had much higher +strength. Did they keep overall Exotic stats the same and just shift +strength/int/disc to +light?
So.... got the new exotic helm and already have a max'd old exotic helm. While the +light levels are higher on the new 2.0 exotic, the old exotic had much higher +strength. Did they keep overall Exotic stats the same and just shift +strength/int/disc to +light?
Nah, you probably just got the short end of the stick from the RNG; Exotic armors have varying stats.
edit: higher light level means higher attributes required to get to 100% cooldown bonuses too, iirc. Though a lot of gear is stacked in a manner that sort of pushes you over 100%.
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I have a question in regards to pre-DLC weapons. What was the name of the legendary (Vanguard? Crucible?) Auto Rifle that had similar stats (impact/rof) to the Shingen?
Shadow Price?
Vanquisher?
Vanquisher has impact similar to Galahad.
Sorry, I'm kind of being roundabout here. The weapon I'm asking about is Up for Anything. I'm trying to see what it's pre-DLC equivalent is.
So it's in a separate tier, that matches Shingens and the Exotics. Interesting. Thanks!
Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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Iron WeaselDillon!You son of a bitch!Registered Userregular
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
Wait, wait!!
Are you saying I just gotta scratch her and then survive some number of respawns? Because DESPITE all the disadvantages you mention, I did (!) scratch her. After the first death the checkpoint respawns you (without a timer I should mention) right next to her spawn. After the green glowy shit happened, I just dropped a lightning grenade at her feet and watched the fireworks. I survived two (maybe three?) waves of thrall spawns after that. There was an Omnigul in there too (apparently a clone or illusion), but she would be in one place for a few seconds, then teleport somewhere else as soon as I fired a few shots in her direction, so I gave up on that. Eventually I ran out of ammo with a couple of Knights still wandering around in the middle of the "arena" area. If I just gotta tag her a few times... well, then I was probably 90% of the way there.
I am so going to win this mission tonight!
What you are saying is confusing, or isn't described properly.
Omnigul never reappears in the playable area after she spawns the first wave of thralls and teleports away. She will be behind the glass in the control room.
There will be rifts opening up afterwards in increasing numbers, that spawn thralls, knights, and a wizard all in a group. After some waves, the boss monster spawns. If not killed quickly, there will be adds spawning in after a certain amount of time.
Omnigul never spawns again, she sits in that room and summons mobs.
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Sev: Your gameplay is the most heavily yomi based around. Usually you look for characters that allow you to force guessing situations for big dmg. Even if the guess is mathematically nowhere near in your favor lol. You're happiest when you have either a 50/50, 33/33/33 or even a 75/25 situation to go crazy with. And you will take big risks to force those situations to come up.
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So I guess the RNG is making up for being an asshole for all my VoG drops. Turned in a blue engram, got a legendary sniper (331 max attack) "Y-09 Longbow Synthesis"
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edited December 2014
I just headshotted a Dreg with Thorn and killed the 2 other Dregs behind him witht the same shot, 1 shot - 3 Dregs dead, Thorn's piercing damage is mentioned in its inherent ability but you can do it as soon as you pick it up, pretty cool gun.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
Wait, wait!!
Are you saying I just gotta scratch her and then survive some number of respawns? Because DESPITE all the disadvantages you mention, I did (!) scratch her. After the first death the checkpoint respawns you (without a timer I should mention) right next to her spawn. After the green glowy shit happened, I just dropped a lightning grenade at her feet and watched the fireworks. I survived two (maybe three?) waves of thrall spawns after that. There was an Omnigul in there too (apparently a clone or illusion), but she would be in one place for a few seconds, then teleport somewhere else as soon as I fired a few shots in her direction, so I gave up on that. Eventually I ran out of ammo with a couple of Knights still wandering around in the middle of the "arena" area. If I just gotta tag her a few times... well, then I was probably 90% of the way there.
I am so going to win this mission tonight!
Isn't optimism so cute?
Okay, in all seriousness...here's what you'll be facing.
Omnigul will spawn right next to the control panel. She is not the boss of this fight. She is an annoyance and is there to make you want to KILL HER DEAD when you meet her in a later event. You have to scratch her ONLY to get her to leave you alone. But you have to get through her shields, yes. You can do it with a Fusion Rifle, I did it with my Fusion Rifle from Iron Banner, the fire one. So, your grenade or an arc would be better.
Once she is scratched, she will teleport away. And then the real last battle happens. On the Level 30 Heroic, you have to withstand 4 waves of increasing enemies, the first three of which have Yellow Wizards that have the standard Fire Shields. One, then two, then I think four of them. All the time they will be creating those green circles. Hint: DON"T WALK IN THEM. I'll leave the last wave for a surprise. But be ready.
On the normal Level one, you only have to withstand 3 waves, only two of which have Wizards. It is MUCH easier.
All I want for Christmas is for Control to feature/include the new maps.
Seems silly that they're relegated to Clash and Rumble right now, but I'm wondering if Bungie actually doesn't know where they're going to put the capture points and they're waiting to see what natural choke points turn up and what the player heat map looks like. I wasn't actually considering that before I started typing this post, but I just thought of it mid-post. Thank you for taking this journey with me.
So, I played Destiny last night for the first time since last Thursday.
My "not entirely sure" feeling about the expansion seems to have been justified. I was able to do the first Eris quest/mission, but the second one was impossible for not-yet-max-level me. (For reference, I was trying it as a LL28; my only 300-attack weapon is Invective; and my best primary is Bad Juju.) I died 15 times in there before I finally gave up in frustration. I simply could not put out enough firepower to do any damage to the boss. I literally ran out of ammo on all three guns without ever getting through her shields!
To make myself feel better I went and bought some new gauntlets and did all six of the PvE bounties. At the end of the night I had crested just into LL29 (a new high point for me!) and finally got the "String of Curses" perk on Bad Juju activated. I'm really loving this perk! It's like having unlimited ammo. It only took about 10 minutes before I simply stopped reloading... ever!
My point is that the paywall thing is not only hurting people who didn't buy the DLC, but it is also hurting people who DID buy the DLC, but weren't "raid ready" when it came out. The required missions have such a steep gear requirement (which is to say, level requirement, since LL is 100% tied to gear) that unless you were already at the top of the peak gear-wise, it is extremely difficult to get through.
I'll probably try it again tonight. Based on what has been said about the VoG, I'm hopeful that an additional level will bump my DPS enough that it wont be like attacking a brick wall with a butterknife.
Which mission are you having trouble with?
The Rasputin mission? The one on the moon? Are you doing them on Heroic difficulty? You shouldn't be having too much trouble if you are not doing the lvl 30 Heroic versions
Umm, are you talking about killing Omnigul, the wizard in that mission? Because you are not supposed to actually kill her. I assume this is who you are talking about by your use of the term "her".
Yeah, that's a weird situation. More information, please. o_O
edit: 1) you can't kill her and 2) for her to not run away from you and opt to kill you 15 times given she's supposed to run away is just... weird.
I figured out that
if I drop her shields (Arc) using a Pulse Rifle, it'll hurt her briefly. She then bugs out immediately after summoning the first wave of Thralls. Then you get to deal with her lesser copies, but with Solar weak shields instead. Visions of Confluence ripped those apart.
Thing is, how do you empty all your ammo into her before she teleports out? I mean, it's a scripted event! How does she bug out 15 times in a row? It doesn't add up.
Reading the original story he's two levels below with a very not maxed gun trying to fight level 30 mobs with like a 40% damage penalty while not using the right elemental attack against an enemy that is supposed to be fuck off imposing but you just have to scratch their health.
He wasn't leveled for the 30 version. My 29 wasn't fucking leveled for the 30 version of that fight. It's a tough encounter, which is good IMO.
Wait, wait!!
Are you saying I just gotta scratch her and then survive some number of respawns? Because DESPITE all the disadvantages you mention, I did (!) scratch her. After the first death the checkpoint respawns you (without a timer I should mention) right next to her spawn. After the green glowy shit happened, I just dropped a lightning grenade at her feet and watched the fireworks. I survived two (maybe three?) waves of thrall spawns after that. There was an Omnigul in there too (apparently a clone or illusion), but she would be in one place for a few seconds, then teleport somewhere else as soon as I fired a few shots in her direction, so I gave up on that. Eventually I ran out of ammo with a couple of Knights still wandering around in the middle of the "arena" area. If I just gotta tag her a few times... well, then I was probably 90% of the way there.
I am so going to win this mission tonight!
Isn't optimism so cute?
Okay, in all seriousness...here's what you'll be facing.
Omnigul will spawn right next to the control panel. She is not the boss of this fight. She is an annoyance and is there to make you want to KILL HER DEAD when you meet her in a later event. You have to scratch her ONLY to get her to leave you alone. But you have to get through her shields, yes. You can do it with a Fusion Rifle, I did it with my Fusion Rifle from Iron Banner, the fire one. So, your grenade or an arc would be better.
Once she is scratched, she will teleport away. And then the real last battle happens. On the Level 30 Heroic, you have to withstand 4 waves of increasing enemies, the first three of which have Yellow Wizards that have the standard Fire Shields. One, then two, then I think four of them. All the time they will be creating those green circles. Hint: DON"T WALK IN THEM. I'll leave the last wave for a surprise. But be ready.
On the normal Level one, you only have to withstand 3 waves, only two of which have Wizards. It is MUCH easier.
Yes, it's the Omnigul mission, the one on the moon.
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Yes, I did notice her "trapped" in the control room. The one run where I wasn't completely overwhelmed by Thralls, I ran out of ammo without killing a lot of MOBs.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
I see... well... that was a .... rather... *wait for it*... stupid thing to try to attempt!
Well, to be honest, I was doing the same thing, except I was LL 29 instead of 28. So, when he described what basically happened to me, I thought that it was most likely that he was doing what I had been doing: Attempting the Level 30 for those sweet sweet Ascendant Mats.
After my 12th time dying to the Heroic modifier, I said "GOOSE THIS GOOSING GOOSE" and just cut loose on the regular level.
Felt good to unleash hell on all of those bastards.
I tried doing that mission at level 30 yesterday without the angry modifier. That third wave is damn near impossible to solo even at level.
I'd recommend fireteaming up if you're going to attempt it.
Did see this mentioned but I may have just missed it but Exclusion Zone no longer has hordes of yellow enemies.
Because of course it doesn't.
I was running it last night on heroic and it still did. Did you have the heroic modifier on? It doesn't have the yellows if you just run it at the base level.
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Yes, it's the Omnigul mission, the one on the moon.
Yes, I was doing it on the level 30 "Heroic" setting. It's literally impossible as a LL28 with non-maxed weapons. But my need for Ascendant materials is enormous! I'm going to need another 35 ascendant shards to finish up the gear I have now, not to mention the newer, betterer gear that I'll be adding as soon as I can collect the commendations to buy it. (Or, more likely, next week when Iron Banner comes back.) Passing up two ascendant things is really going to hurt.
Yes, I did notice her "trapped" in the control room. The one run where I wasn't completely overwhelmed by Thralls, I ran out of ammo without killing a lot of MOBs.
Like I said, I'm hopeful that an additional Light Level and increased weapon damage (I filled a new damage bubble late last night) will change this from "literally impossible" to "incredibly difficult". I'm not averse to trying another dozen or so times before giving up. Spending a few hours for two ascended materials is well worth the time investment (for me).
I see... well... that was a .... rather... *wait for it*... stupid thing to try to attempt!
Well, to be honest, I was doing the same thing, except I was LL 29 instead of 28. So, when he described what basically happened to me, I thought that it was most likely that he was doing what I had been doing: Attempting the Level 30 for those sweet sweet Ascendant Mats.
After my 12th time dying to the Heroic modifier, I said "GOOSE THIS GOOSING GOOSE" and just cut loose on the regular level.
Felt good to unleash hell on all of those bastards.
I tried doing that mission at level 30 yesterday without the angry modifier. That third wave is damn near impossible to solo even at level.
I'd recommend fireteaming up if you're going to attempt it.
I attempted it at 29 and got to the final phase but there was so much green junk around the arena from not being able to kill the wizards quickly that I failed miserably. I was also using Super Good Advice. It lied to me.
I put on level 30 gear and my non-maxed Hezen and then just burned it all to the ground. Only had 2 green junk and no adds because THEY ATE ALL THE ROCKETS.
The difficulty for this mission comes in that you can't use a defensive/attrition playstyle to win it. You gotta go balls deep. The longer the encounter goes on the more it will turn against you.
edit: if you're not 30, then I would strongly recommend using a solar rocket launcher. The wizards need to die quickly.
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The time spent attempting a level 30 heroic at 28 would be better served just getting through the normal, going through the rest of Eris's missions to get the Strike and the Strike Playlist unlocked. And just doing that for marks and rep instead.
All I want for Christmas is for Control to feature/include the new maps.
Seems silly that they're relegated to Clash and Rumble right now, but I'm wondering if Bungie actually doesn't know where they're going to put the capture points and they're waiting to see what natural choke points turn up and what the player heat map looks like. I wasn't actually considering that before I started typing this post, but I just thought of it mid-post. Thank you for taking this journey with me.
That seems overly optimistic of their after-feature-launch planning to me.
Oh hey, so the mission everybody is talking about is one of today's bounties. So, uh, if anybody wants to team up for that... hit me up... because I'm not even going to bother trying to solo it.
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Could you spoiler your posts? There are people who still want to do the raid blind and haven't yet.
also:
(Can't combine them into a youtube clip atm)
...or invite me to a Raid?
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-New raid is making me glad that I have an Alpha Lupi chest leveled on all my alts; it's actually a viable choice now (this will change in January for hard-modes, again, assuming the no-revive rule is in effect).
-Related to the above: I'm using different exotics now that I'm in unfamilar territory. I'm used to having the Achlyophage glued to my Hunter's head, but in the last 3 days I've also made good use of Alpha Lupi, Knucklehead Radar, and Mask of the Third Man.
-I don't think the Vex Mythoclast gives a large enough damage increase to justify it using your exotic slot; Fatebringer is beast.
-I saw a reddit post refer to the new raid upgrade materials as "RadMats" =D
-I'm still just as peeved about how the reXurbish process will invalidate my previous work after only 3 short months, but on the other hand I'm excited for new shinies (Hi, Serah! Ichabod who?).
-This game and P-A community are crazy-awesome. I would love the game by myself (that doesn't quite sound right...), but playing with you guys makes it even more epic and memorable.
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Shadow Price?
Shadow Price?
Vanquisher?
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Meanwhile, I saw a new ship in the wild yesterday. It was the Ketch Me If You Can. It was uh... really green. I would much rather have Eris's ship. Hopefully that becomes available to us. For that matter, I really wish that the Queen's Wrath would award the Awoken ship.
Vanquisher has impact similar to Galahad.
Sorry, I'm kind of being roundabout here. The weapon I'm asking about is Up for Anything. I'm trying to see what it's pre-DLC equivalent is.
Well, to be honest, I was doing the same thing, except I was LL 29 instead of 28. So, when he described what basically happened to me, I thought that it was most likely that he was doing what I had been doing: Attempting the Level 30 for those sweet sweet Ascendant Mats.
After my 12th time dying to the Heroic modifier, I said "GOOSE THIS GOOSING GOOSE" and just cut loose on the regular level.
Felt good to unleash hell on all of those bastards.
Edit: Whoops, had notifications off.
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Anyone up for Nightfall/Weekly tonight? I'm sure we all could use a new exotic or free light 33 armor piece.
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That is what confusing me. There isn't a direct correlation. The ROF, clip size etc are similar to the Shadow Price, which hit like a Galahad. Now it appears to be in the place of the Shadow Price. but is matching the Shingen impact instead of the Galahad.
In vanilla, all the blues had legendary equivalents, I think to promote consistency.
Cydonia = Vanquisher
Galahad = Shadow Price
Sahara = Unwilling Soul/Hex Caster Arc
And so on.
but... that post, directed at a person whose username wasn't "Stupid," would have a far less comical context to it. :P
It didn't have a vendor equivalent, but it shares the same damage model as Hard Light and Monte Carlo.
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Wait, wait!!
Nah, you probably just got the short end of the stick from the RNG; Exotic armors have varying stats.
edit: higher light level means higher attributes required to get to 100% cooldown bonuses too, iirc. Though a lot of gear is stacked in a manner that sort of pushes you over 100%.
So it's in a separate tier, that matches Shingens and the Exotics. Interesting. Thanks!
(I'd love to run through the new questline first, if possible.)
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What you are saying is confusing, or isn't described properly.
There will be rifts opening up afterwards in increasing numbers, that spawn thralls, knights, and a wizard all in a group. After some waves, the boss monster spawns. If not killed quickly, there will be adds spawning in after a certain amount of time.
Omnigul never spawns again, she sits in that room and summons mobs.
Isn't optimism so cute?
Okay, in all seriousness...here's what you'll be facing.
Once she is scratched, she will teleport away. And then the real last battle happens. On the Level 30 Heroic, you have to withstand 4 waves of increasing enemies, the first three of which have Yellow Wizards that have the standard Fire Shields. One, then two, then I think four of them. All the time they will be creating those green circles. Hint: DON"T WALK IN THEM. I'll leave the last wave for a surprise. But be ready.
On the normal Level one, you only have to withstand 3 waves, only two of which have Wizards. It is MUCH easier.
Good luck though.
Seems silly that they're relegated to Clash and Rumble right now, but I'm wondering if Bungie actually doesn't know where they're going to put the capture points and they're waiting to see what natural choke points turn up and what the player heat map looks like. I wasn't actually considering that before I started typing this post, but I just thought of it mid-post. Thank you for taking this journey with me.
I was level 29 when I attempted this with all maxed weapons. My girlfriend was ALSO 29 with a maxed Gjallarhorn. We failed.
I tried doing that mission at level 30 yesterday without the angry modifier. That third wave is damn near impossible to solo even at level.
I'd recommend fireteaming up if you're going to attempt it.
Because of course it doesn't.
I was running it last night on heroic and it still did. Did you have the heroic modifier on? It doesn't have the yellows if you just run it at the base level.
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I attempted it at 29 and got to the final phase but there was so much green junk around the arena from not being able to kill the wizards quickly that I failed miserably. I was also using Super Good Advice. It lied to me.
I put on level 30 gear and my non-maxed Hezen and then just burned it all to the ground. Only had 2 green junk and no adds because THEY ATE ALL THE ROCKETS.
The difficulty for this mission comes in that you can't use a defensive/attrition playstyle to win it. You gotta go balls deep. The longer the encounter goes on the more it will turn against you.
edit: if you're not 30, then I would strongly recommend using a solar rocket launcher. The wizards need to die quickly.
I would love a primary weapon that excites me in a way my three exotic secondaries:
That'd be cool.
That seems overly optimistic of their after-feature-launch planning to me.