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PAX South Panel Announced : Pinny Arcade Pin Trading 101

Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
Hello, fellow pin pals!

I am very excited to share with you this news! It's going up this week on the official schedule for PAX South 2015, but I couldn't wait to let you guys know!

At 4:00 PM, Friday, be in line at the Bobcat Theater for the first Pinny Arcade panel, Pinny Arcade Pin Trading 101!

Your hosts will be myself, @Diffusion‌, @PedroAsani‌ and @SerpicoBC‌. We will cover a variety of topics, including How to enter the hobby, The financial value of pins, and others, plus a Q&A followed by a small giveaway of pintastic prizes!

As the panel gets more ready, we'll share some more details on this thread. We're very happy to be able to host such an event at PAX. I hope most pin hunters from the forum will meet with us there and share what is likely to be the first in many community gatherings on the official schedule, outside of the staff Pin Trading event.

Until then, stay safe, and may the pre-PAX jitters not be too cruel on you all.

- Shadowscars22

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    Here is the official Panel description:

    Pinny Arcade Pin Trading 101

    Are you tantalized by lanyards full of pins you see all around? Are you an collector of Pinny Arcade, or would like to become one, and want to know everything there is to know about the hobby?
    Join Francois Jacques (CEO of The Pin Trader), along with John Serpico (Financial Analyst), Justin Calero (Hobby Store Manager) and Peter Jones of the PinnyPals podcast. We will cover information sources on new releases, trading channels, and insider information to help you better barter for your pins!

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    agentcooperagentcooper Brisbane, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Congrats! I'll catch it on Twitch :)

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    SKOoOTASKOoOTA Ascot Vale, Australia.Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Can we get this video taped by someone or at least recorded into a Podcast for those who can't swim that far to make it?

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    Capt WasabiCapt Wasabi AustraliaRegistered User regular
    That's awesome guys!
    Will this be on Twitch?

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    TheAggroCraigTheAggroCraig Ultimate Lucky Douchebag MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    I should most definitely be there.

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    darkinferodarkinfero BOP-IT Malden, MARegistered User regular
    I will be there.
    I could stream from my phone if people want to see it live. All depending on data connection.

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    I doubt it will be on Twitch - it will be up to the PAX staff to see if it is doable. My guess is there is a limited amount of cameras for streaming.

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    TheAggroCraigTheAggroCraig Ultimate Lucky Douchebag MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    I doubt it will be on Twitch - it will be up to the PAX staff to see if it is doable. My guess is there is a limited amount of cameras for streaming.

    I'm sure someone will record, if not it probably wouldn't be too hard to find someone with a decent camera.

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    Capt WasabiCapt Wasabi AustraliaRegistered User regular
    If someone could record this and upload to YouTube after PAX I would greatly appreciate it.

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    AyefkayAyefkay Queensland, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Thats so awesome to hear, guys! Really hope theres a way to watch it for those not attending

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    PedroAsaniPedroAsani Brotherhood of the Squirrel [Prime]Registered User regular
    I just wonder how many people show up. If it's only a handful we might adjourn to the bar and get drinks whilst we trade.

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    HappendyHappendy Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    ....
    I might be enforcing during this panel.
    Gosh darn it.

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    PedroAsani wrote: »
    I just wonder how many people show up. If it's only a handful we might adjourn to the bar and get drinks whilst we trade.

    Of course not :P even if only 50 people show up, among them a few who want to start the hobby but don't know how, it's worth doing it! :)

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    rentfnrentfn Registered User regular
    Awesome, can't wait!! I was just wondering if the panel got approved.

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    TheAggroCraigTheAggroCraig Ultimate Lucky Douchebag MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    Make sure to spread the word to newbie collectors too.

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    SerpicoBCSerpicoBC Registered User regular
    I am very, very excited for this.

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    purevalpureval Somersworth, NH Registered User regular
    I am so excited for you guys, I really wish I could be there with you.

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    BekerBeker Child's Play Program Director SeattleRegistered User, Penny Arcade Staff regular
    edited January 2015
    Excellent, I hope to attend at least part of it.

    Also, Bobcat is not a streaming theater, so PAX will not be recording it unfortunately. Yall will have to arrange that if you want to have it for those who can't make it.

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    flasheflashe Craft Beer Aficionado US - East CoastRegistered User regular
    Make sure to spread the word to newbie collectors too.

    Can confirm word has spread to me :)

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    00Fayt0000Fayt00 Registered User regular
    What's even better about this is it will get a new group of people trading not only early on in PAX, but also in time for staff trading. :)

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    JKwonJKwon Portland, ORRegistered User regular
    This will be a great panel it's too bad I won't be making it to PAX South.

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    Jake CappsJake Capps Patrick Space Force Base, FloridaRegistered User regular
    ROFL "We will cover information sources on new releases" I would love to who bullshits this answer. If it's not announced on the front page no one knows. Everyone complains that there is no one place for all pin release information.

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    fishfishmonkeyhatfishfishmonkeyhat Freelance Pin Man Newcastle, AustraliaRegistered User regular
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    ROFL "We will cover information sources on new releases" I would love to who bullshits this answer. If it's not announced on the front page no one knows. Everyone complains that there is no one place for all pin release information.

    The one place is this subforum.

    Was the ND pin announced on the front page before it went on sale on the ND site? Was it announced on PA at all? :P



    Also if you guys can't get a camera/phone set up on a tripod, please see if you can get a decent audio recording of it.

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    TheAggroCraigTheAggroCraig Ultimate Lucky Douchebag MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    ROFL "We will cover information sources on new releases" I would love to who bullshits this answer. If it's not announced on the front page no one knows. Everyone complains that there is no one place for all pin release information.

    The one place is this subforum.

    Was the ND pin announced on the front page before it went on sale on the ND site? Was it announced on PA at all? :P



    Also if you guys can't get a camera/phone set up on a tripod, please see if you can get a decent audio recording of it.

    I can borrow a friend's portable recorder if necessary to bring with me (it works surprisingly well, hopefully good enough to place on a table), assuming a camera can't happen. Let me know.

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    adambargadambarg Forward the Pinglorious Basterds!Registered User regular
    Might be worth recording the audio anyway since it would likely be better quality than what a camera microphone would pick up. I'm sure someone here could merge the two.

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    Jake CappsJake Capps Patrick Space Force Base, FloridaRegistered User regular
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    ROFL "We will cover information sources on new releases" I would love to who bullshits this answer. If it's not announced on the front page no one knows. Everyone complains that there is no one place for all pin release information.

    The one place is this subforum.

    Was the ND pin announced on the front page before it went on sale on the ND site? Was it announced on PA at all? :P



    Also if you guys can't get a camera/phone set up on a tripod, please see if you can get a decent audio recording of it.

    That's the point. If your not staff you have no idea. Then again I'm not claiming to advise people on where all this information can be found. It's a farce.

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    ROFL "We will cover information sources on new releases" I would love to who bullshits this answer. If it's not announced on the front page no one knows. Everyone complains that there is no one place for all pin release information.

    The one place is this subforum.

    Was the ND pin announced on the front page before it went on sale on the ND site? Was it announced on PA at all? :P



    Also if you guys can't get a camera/phone set up on a tripod, please see if you can get a decent audio recording of it.

    That's the point. If your not staff you have no idea. Then again I'm not claiming to advise people on where all this information can be found. It's a farce.

    The point is to inform people new to the hobby where they can learn about new pins releases. If you only rely on one source of information, you will miss some data. The obvious answer is to look at the forums, Twitter, news posts on PA, and sometimes pinnyarcade.com - but all that might not be as obvious to someone not familiar with the forums (which, by the way, is a LOT of people).

    So, if you believe it is a farce to expose the actual sources of informations on pins, you're welcome to attend any other event or panel during the same time frame. We'll really try to make this interesting for both new hobbyists and hardcore collectors, but we obviously can't satisfy everyone's thirst for information the same way.

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    00Fayt0000Fayt00 Registered User regular
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    ROFL "We will cover information sources on new releases" I would love to who bullshits this answer. If it's not announced on the front page no one knows. Everyone complains that there is no one place for all pin release information.

    The one place is this subforum.

    Was the ND pin announced on the front page before it went on sale on the ND site? Was it announced on PA at all? :P



    Also if you guys can't get a camera/phone set up on a tripod, please see if you can get a decent audio recording of it.

    That's the point. If your not staff you have no idea. Then again I'm not claiming to advise people on where all this information can be found. It's a farce.

    Even if you ARE staff they don't really have a 100% idea sometimes. That being said as Fish said other then the front page it is usually watched closely by people on the forums. Information on New release doesn't necessarily mean you have inside info, it can very easily mean the forums, where the pins are usually found pretty quickly, even when PA doesn't announce them.

    That's just un-needed negativity saying that when they discuss this they will be bullshitting the answer.

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    Jake CappsJake Capps Patrick Space Force Base, FloridaRegistered User regular
    You can't walk around a merch booth or trading event with out bumping into signs with this info on it http://penny-arcade.com/pinny-arcade/rules. And anyone that says they can answer "the financial value of pins"...well they are just making stuff up. Have fun handing out "business" cards.

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    00Fayt0000Fayt00 Registered User regular
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    You can't walk around a merch booth or trading event with out bumping into signs with this info on it http://penny-arcade.com/pinny-arcade/rules. And anyone that says they can answer "the financial value of pins"...well they are just making stuff up. Have fun handing out "business" cards.

    They aren't talking about the value at PAX. Do you not see pins being sold on Ebay? On ThePinTrader site, which by the way is one of the panelist. Seriously, if you don't like the idea of the panel, great. The vast majority I bet think it's a great idea. There is no need to try and pick apart the idea when it has nothing to do with you.

    Every time a PAX comes around it seems like you like to come and stir up trouble in some way or another Jake. Debating an idea is one thing, bashing it because you don't like it is something completely different. -.-

    (Sorry I'll end my rant...but it just bugs the living hell out of me)

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    I agree, I have no problem if that is your view, but you have exposed your opinion, and debating it furthur does not contribute.

    On a more humorous note, I will not hand out business cards to everyone, as I don't have nearly enough printed, and don't want to get more ;) But seriously, I don't want to fly to Texas with a huge crate of flyers or something like that, haha!

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    Jake CappsJake Capps Patrick Space Force Base, FloridaRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    00Fayt00 wrote: »
    That's just un-needed negativity saying that when they discuss this they will be bullshitting the answer.
    00Fayt00 wrote: »
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    You can't walk around a merch booth or trading event with out bumping into signs with this info on it http://penny-arcade.com/pinny-arcade/rules. And anyone that says they can answer "the financial value of pins"...well they are just making stuff up. Have fun handing out "business" cards.

    They aren't talking about the value at PAX. Do you not see pins being sold on Ebay? On ThePinTrader site, which by the way is one of the panelist. Seriously, if you don't like the idea of the panel, great. The vast majority I bet think it's a great idea. There is no need to try and pick apart the idea when it has nothing to do with you.

    Every time a PAX comes around it seems like you like to come and stir up trouble in some way or another Jake. Debating an idea is one thing, bashing it because you don't like it is something completely different. -.-

    (Sorry I'll end my rant...but it just bugs the living hell out of me)

    Your right. It bugs meet that at my first PAX I had one of you cut in front of me, and my friend at merch line, and it was deemed ok because he brought food. And I had the misfortune of running into YOU as you were getting your 3rd Leeroy pin pushing me, and other people out of the way. I'm sorry I'm so negative with my logic.

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    00Fayt0000Fayt00 Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    00Fayt00 wrote: »
    That's just un-needed negativity saying that when they discuss this they will be bullshitting the answer.
    00Fayt00 wrote: »
    Jake Capps wrote: »
    You can't walk around a merch booth or trading event with out bumping into signs with this info on it http://penny-arcade.com/pinny-arcade/rules. And anyone that says they can answer "the financial value of pins"...well they are just making stuff up. Have fun handing out "business" cards.

    They aren't talking about the value at PAX. Do you not see pins being sold on Ebay? On ThePinTrader site, which by the way is one of the panelist. Seriously, if you don't like the idea of the panel, great. The vast majority I bet think it's a great idea. There is no need to try and pick apart the idea when it has nothing to do with you.

    Every time a PAX comes around it seems like you like to come and stir up trouble in some way or another Jake. Debating an idea is one thing, bashing it because you don't like it is something completely different. -.-

    (Sorry I'll end my rant...but it just bugs the living hell out of me)

    Your right. It bugs meet that at my first PAX I had one of you cut in front of me, and my friend at merch line, and it was deemed ok because he brought food. And I had the misfortune of running into YOU as you were getting your 3rd Leeroy pin pushing me, and other people out of the way. I'm sorry I'm so negative with my logic.

    You aren't even worth discussing this with Jake.


    @Shadowscars22 How long is the panel? An hour?

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    Yes, one hour.

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    TheAggroCraigTheAggroCraig Ultimate Lucky Douchebag MassachusettsRegistered User regular
    Is this something you guys are looking to do at East as well? If so... I want in.

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    Sammy.SamSammy.Sam Registered User regular
    Truly the Buddha was correct when he said that desire leads to suffering.

    I'd really be interested in a community discussion about the demand for different pins and how we weight different values such as design, subject matter, and fan base when calculating popularity and to some extent monetary value.

    I'd also be interested in a discussion about the future of collecting, and how we predict (or already observe) people focusing the scopes of their own collections.

    It's already been discussed to death why print run numbers are so important for the collecting community, but it's definately worth rehashing it at the panel for the benefit of anyone new to collecting. Looking forward to the panel!

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    SerpicoBCSerpicoBC Registered User regular
    As the "finance" guy on the panel, one of my jobs, ironically enough, is to talk about psychology. Value is a psychological construct, and there are a lot of factors in determining, as @Sammy.Sam put it, "how we weight different values."

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    Shadowscars22Shadowscars22 Registered User regular
    I can't wait to hear your part man - honestly it's a topic that's very interesting to me :)

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    evil santaevil santa To infinity...and beyond!Registered User regular
    The panel sounds interesting. Hopefully it can be recorded so that interested folks, such as myself, can experience the discussion.

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    NopeNope Frankfort, KYRegistered User regular
    Depending on my working schedule I might be able to record this with my Zoom H4N. Will try to remember this panel

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