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NAACP Bombing in Colorado Springs, CO
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So, this happened...
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I'm not sure what thread to put this in, if it does belong in another thread. Frankly, I'm a little concerned about where the country is going amid the protests and now this. It seems that things are going to be further escalating as racial tension mounts within America. Sometimes, it feels as though we're back sliding greatly. Especially when many commentators (don't read the comments) are saying this was basically a ploy by the black community to trump up sympathy points. The media seems more focused on the protests than this at the moment. Sometimes I also feel as though we're going to soon be like the Middle East with more bombings done by American citizens within our country due to the racial tension mounting.
So what's your take? Do you think the country is back sliding heavily to the 50s or this is something that'll all blow over soon enough?
An improvised explosive device was detonated against the exterior wall of a building housing the Colorado Springs chapter of the NAACP on Tuesday, officials said.
The explosion knocked items off the office walls but no one was injured.
Agents from the FBI Joint Terrorism Task Force and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives went to the scene after the blast to gather evidence and place markers.
The FBI said that a gasoline can was placed next to the device but the contents did not ignite.
According to the the FBI, officials are seeking a "potential person of interest," described as a balding white male, about 40 years o;d.
"He may be driving a 2000 or older model dirty, white pick-up truck with paneling, a dark colored bed liner, open tailgate, and a missing or covered license plate," the FBI said in a statement said.
rest here: Colorado Springs Bombing
I'm not sure what thread to put this in, if it does belong in another thread. Frankly, I'm a little concerned about where the country is going amid the protests and now this. It seems that things are going to be further escalating as racial tension mounts within America. Sometimes, it feels as though we're back sliding greatly. Especially when many commentators (don't read the comments) are saying this was basically a ploy by the black community to trump up sympathy points. The media seems more focused on the protests than this at the moment. Sometimes I also feel as though we're going to soon be like the Middle East with more bombings done by American citizens within our country due to the racial tension mounting.
So what's your take? Do you think the country is back sliding heavily to the 50s or this is something that'll all blow over soon enough?
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Not trying to be a dick but if you think that second part is at all true you may need to read up a little more on the history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict because equating the shootings, the protests and yes even this bombing to that is very much off base. The scale renders any comparison pretty invalid.
At this point I'd guess this is going to be a lone asshole lashing out and who (thankfully) did so incompetently.
Its atrocious but the bomber was clearly incompetent. Hopefully theyll find him
I wasn't equating it to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, there are other bombings in other parts of the Middle East over other reasons, like the one that just took place in Istanbul. But if you feel like my feeling as though shit is heading that way is way off base and I should research, then I shall.
However, I do feel that the backsliding is happening. We're seeing more racial tension and the treatment towards minorities, especially blacks, becoming more hostile. It seems as though more black men are being killed by the police and despite an amazing amount of evidence, charges aren't being brought up.
The more that gets denied, then the more the unrest continues to grow. This will just further escalate it
What, no confederate flag?
There is increased pressure on horrible people to do horrible things as their beliefs become increasingly rejected by the public. They are driven to this sort of thing by their isolation and the increased radicalization that brings.
So, things like this, they aren't always such horrible signs.
We hope.
What's happened in France is an example of stuff to sort of be leery of. This not so much.
I don't think we're seeing more racial tension though
Or rather that is to say I think the racial tension was always there. So while we're now seeing it because of the protests and whatnot we aren't seeing more racial tension
It's just getting put in the forefront and quite frankly good. It's a lot harder to ignore a problem when it gets put front and center
Do I think we're going to see major reforms come out of this? No, probably not. Major reforms are a very very rare thing. I do think we'll see some reforms though and fuck I'll take what I can get, especially in this political climate
I'm not really 100% on saying the right.
I've lived in PA and FL, and been exposed to a lot of leftish bigots. Many of the more moderate were driven towards the republican party by Obama, good fucking riddance, but...
Ehh... I open to the ideal people may want smaller government and not have a hate on for minorities. And lgbt people. And non Christians. And the poor. And nature.
Wait... Uhhh... Wait.. Vee.... I might just be being disagreeable or something this morning.
I think Obama brought lots of festering racism to the surface. It was there before it's just become harder to ignore.
Like... a lot came out of the woodwork there.
I don't know how that trend has progressed since.
I'm honestly surprised it wasn't more like 4,000%
Some racists have the sense not to make threats against POTUS.
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Naw, you're right.
The right doesn't have a stranglehold on racism.
Sure they might be the ones who make organizations and the like dedicated to it but its everywhere.
Hell, look at New York. Probably one of the most left-leaning cities in the US and also probably one of the most racist.
The selection of Sarah Palin as VP by John McCain and her subsequent meltdown on the national stage because she is, frankly, an idiot, also drove a lot of moderates out of the Republican Party because the Republican Party began embracing ignorance and stupidity as a virtue.
So the election of Obama did a lot to change demographics of each side.
The weird thing is that they're not even calling this a terrorist attack. Just a simple bombing.
but to me the media's blase attitude towards the whole thing is alarming as well.
A bombing on an NAACP office was most likely carried out by a white person, white people can't be terrorists. Ergo it was a bombing. You're american media.
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I'd guess it's more to do with the minor damage and unknown reason for the bombing.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27273492/naacp-president-says-organization-remains-vigilant-after-colorado
Also didn't hurt anyone thank god.
But out of all the places this is confusing. The Springs doesn't have a huge African American population. The office is extremely small. It doesn't match any of the standard demographics for some of the stuff folks are talking about here.
Now if it was targeting say one of the Latino groups that would make more sense demographically and historically with the region.
Top it off not the smartest place to the target. Denver right up the road is the FBI regional command. And the US Military owns the town.
I will say this though, the Springs has a large amount of far right conservative Christian groups that run out of there. Mostly folks who are more anti-gay and traditional "christian values" than straight up racism.
Now long long ago the Springs was a center of the KKK. Like we are talking Headquarters level. The KKK ran the state government in Colorado in the 1920's but again they have been really muted/pushed out over the years. And again not so much the lynchings more stupid white people annoying the local Jewish population.
Now again would of been less surprised if it was Latinos. We had bombings in the 70's targeting busing in Denver with people going against the integration of schools. Which again was focused on the Latino/White split not the African American/White split.
This is just one of those weirdly out place things by the target.
Well, they will...if they're left wing terrorists.
I'd bet you've heard of ELF. And I'll bet you haven't heard of the Phineas Priesthood.
Its also not surprising they are not covering it much at all right now. There isn't much information, the building is fine as the bombing failed and um, that's it for now besides speculation. If the building actually burned it would have been covered extensively for sure.
The attack in France is getting all the attention right now. I checked all the major outlets and each of them have a story on this, they don't say much pretty much just echoing the FBI's statements but that's that.
The far left absolutely has racists, but the far left is also completely ignored by everyone: The media except as "Well, that's odd" stories, politicians because the far left doesn't vote, and the public in general because it's been trained to do so. Until they're given a mouth piece to spew their incredibly thinly veiled arguments they're not really worth much consideration on this topic, and can just as easily be dealt with in the same manner as we would the right racists.
Unfortunately this really requires a media that calls racists bullshit racist bullshit instead of not even addressing it, and I don't think the media will ever do so willingly.
I'd heard of both but I wasn't really familiar with either outside of "shitheads"
But ELF and Phineas Priesthood and no mention of Timothy McVeigh?
Generally smaller domestic terrorism attacks with racial components tend to be based on targets of opportunity. It may simply have been the closest NAACP office to the terrorist. It looks more like a single person acting rather working with a larger group, although it could be someone sympathetic to a group like the Ayran Nations or the JDL.