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Virginia: North enough to be hated by the South and South enough to be hated by the North

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    Styrofoam SammichStyrofoam Sammich WANT. normal (not weird)Registered User regular
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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular

    Ed Gillespie, thy nickname is "speed bump".

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    Fuck off Donald Virginia hates you and your team of nipple shits

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    4 out of 4 House seats? VA has 11 districts?

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular

    The best way to inspire loyalty is to avoid all responsibility and throw people under the bus.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Coinage wrote: »
    4 out of 4 House seats? VA has 11 districts?

    The special elections

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    monikermoniker Registered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Coinage wrote: »
    4 out of 4 House seats? VA has 11 districts?

    The special elections

    To replace Cabinet members in hard right seats that saw Republican support collapse, just not collapsing enough.

    Moral victories never taste as sweet as this.

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    MillMill Registered User regular
    Absalon wrote: »
    Thoughts and prayers for Barbara Comstock.




    :D


    Rumor is that she and her people are panicking. Sounds like tonight's result just swept out a bunch of local elected republicans that they wanted to use in their campaign infrastructure for next year. I wonder if she'll be someone to watch on tax reform because I'm pretty sure this forces her into a far more difficult position to treat upon, if she decides to run again (always possible she decides to retire).

    Big take away stuff so far going into future elections. This puts the democrats in a better position to start building up a team for higher offices. It also eats into the GOP's war chest going forward because any guy they had that lost or any open seat they couldn't retain, is a seat they can use to boost their campaigns elsewhere (not just in VA, but nationwide). Also with the pickups, the Democrats will be in a much better position to be in control of the House of Delegates after 2019. Granted with Northam and Fairfax winning tonight, the GOP is forced to abandon any ideas of gerrymandering VA's electoral college to benefit them in 2020.

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    ViskodViskod Registered User regular
    Oh please, if Gillespie had embraced Trump any harder he would have suffocated him.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Oh please, if Gillespie had embraced Trump any harder he would have suffocated him.

    But he failed, hence his date with a Greyhound.

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Tucker Carlson calling VA for Northam:



    Huh. So that's what schadenfreude sounds like.

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    DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    Gillespie was the gop test run for whether moderate Republicans can win by best adding some racism to their platform. Fuck off with that shit.

    What is this I don't even.
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    JragghenJragghen Registered User regular
    Sister lives in very conservative mountain VA. Apparently there were three candidates for board of supervisors who were all "no taxes, ever." They all lost. She's stoked.

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    CoinageCoinage Heaviside LayerRegistered User regular
    Viskod wrote: »
    Oh please, if Gillespie had embraced Trump any harder he would have suffocated him.
    I mean he never actually appeared with Trump, it's not totally inaccurate.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular


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    Darkewolfe wrote: »
    Gillespie was the gop test run for whether moderate Republicans can win by best adding some racism to their platform. Fuck off with that shit.

    Some really open blatant racism anyway

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    holy fucking shit i feel like i just let out a year’s worth of stale breath

    i am super fucking proud of my state right now

    gonna sleep well tonight and get back to work on the next step tomorrow with wind in my fucking sails

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    AngelHedgieAngelHedgie Registered User regular
    Another happy story from VA:



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    ArcTangentArcTangent Registered User regular
    CBS Reporter



    Alt-right's already turned on Gillespie too. Trump can't fail, he can only be failed.

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    EvigilantEvigilant VARegistered User regular
    I'm glad Northam won and that it seems to be a D down ticket sweep, but house of delegates? Can....can I hope?

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    Evigilant wrote: »
    I'm glad Northam won and that it seems to be a D down ticket sweep, but house of delegates? Can....can I hope?

    Yes Santa Claus there is a Virginia

    (I mean there's a decent chance)

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    Captain InertiaCaptain Inertia Registered User regular
    It's an odd year election too...

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    DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    CBS Reporter



    Alt-right's already turned on Gillespie too. Trump can't fail, he can only be failed.

    [sarcasm]Yeah he wasn't bigoted enough.[/sarcasm]

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular


    The whip (and projected majority leader) lost too

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    Oh man. After those special elections, clicking "last" on these threads gives me a tiny rush.

    It definitely feels nice to finally append a "YEAH" to the customary "FUCK"

    Hooray VA!

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    MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
    Mazzyx wrote: »
    http://results.elections.virginia.gov/vaelections/2017 November General/Site/Statewide.html

    Official state wide counts.

    Remember NoVA is notoriously later than a lot of the rest of VA. If patterns hold Republicans will have a big early lead that collapses as the North comes in.

    Edit:

    Also absentee totals in the site are 180,000. Which is a decent amount for an off year.
    Some of the referendums off of that link are weird.

    I particularly liked "Sale of Mixed Alcoholic Beverages (FRANKLIN COUNTY)" which won by over 50 points! I mean, that's due to small sample size (69-22), but it still counts! Also, the people of Wise County got rid of Sunday restrictions on booze purchases. So yay for alcoholism?

    I'm surprised that some fairly hefty bond measures for schooling were determined by incredibly small numbers of total voters. Pulaski County, $47M passed, with barely 10K voters total. Falls Church $120M (rejected) and Lee County $47M (rejected), both with less than that. That's a lot of potential money being swung by a small voter base. At least with similar referendums in Fairfax and Loudoun there were 100K+ voters.


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    MorganVMorganV Registered User regular
    JoeUser wrote: »
    Just FYI

    <snip, tweet about Dem voters getting calls intentionally misinforming them that their polling place having changed

    Isn't it just amazing that nearly every fucking time we see this it's oddly Democratic voters being targeted with the misinformation?

    Such an odd, inexplicable coincidence that no one should ever look into.
    How this shit isn't chased down in the hunt for "voter fraud", shows just how partisan this bullshit is. I mean, we knew that already, but it puts it in stark relief.

    Removing someone from the voter rolls for having the same or similar name to that of a convicted felon? Protection against voter fraud.
    Requiring stringent ID requirements that disproportionately disenfranchise people of one party? Protection against voter fraud.
    Investigating people intentionally trying to tamper with an election results via turnout manipulation? Meh. Whatever. That's not important.

    Fuck off, you partisan hacks.

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    Werewolf2000adWerewolf2000ad Suckers, I know exactly what went wrong. Registered User regular
    ArcTangent wrote: »
    CBS Reporter



    Alt-right's already turned on Gillespie too. Trump can't fail, he can only be failed.

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    Kristmas KthulhuKristmas Kthulhu Currently Kultist Kthulhu Registered User regular
    Judd Legum is the founder and editor-in-chief of ThinkProgress, a news site based at the Center for American Progress.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    it looks like the Dillwyn, VA, town council is going to manage to retain their seats after not a single member filed paperwork in time to be on the ballot

    Virginia.gov Dillwyn Election Results

    there was literally no one on their ballots and all four were write-in candidates

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    If only there were a way for the gop to energize its base and try to save as much face as humanly possible going into the next year.... and here comes the impeachment talks.

    Just You Watch.

    your patience will be rewarded.

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    PantsBPantsB Fake Thomas Jefferson Registered User regular
    edited November 2017
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    VA House Dems supports the party that picked up 16 seats so far in the HoD

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
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    VA House Dems supports the party that picked up 16 seats so far in the HoD

    The fundraising never ends

    lol though on the $17 suggested donation. $17 for a 17 member sweep and a HoD majority. Cute.

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    tbloxhamtbloxham Registered User regular
    PantsB wrote: »
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    VA House Dems supports the party that picked up 16 seats so far in the HoD

    Goodness, a tie in the Virginia house. The size of the Democratic vote to achieve that must be a swing which would turn Alabama blue! Ha, I kept on saying that the elephant in the room for Trump was that 2016, where he lost the popular vote by millions, and they lost seats in the house and Senate was a republican wave election. Just that their base is small enough now that it was still a tight race. If we can get a democratic wave in 2018 and the republican one fades, we could be looking at a truly amazing situation.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
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    OneVirginia is a non-profit promoting redistricting reform in the Commonwealth

    this swing is yuge for undoing the gerrymandering fuckery Republicans threw down after 2010

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    If only there were a way for the gop to energize its base and try to save as much face as humanly possible going into the next year.... and here comes the impeachment talks.

    Just You Watch.

    your patience will be rewarded.

    The GOP is in a VERY bad spot right now. If they actively distance themselves from Trump, they fire up the base that already hates them and risk losing in a primary. But if they stay aligned with Trump, they risk losing in the general.

    I wish I could say I pity them, but......you fuckers dug your own graves, now you sit in them, you fuckers.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    to be fair though, we were saying this the weeks before the 2016 election and ....

    great start, lets keep it up!

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    to be fair though, we were saying this the weeks before the 2016 election and ....

    great start, lets keep it up!

    cautious optimism, though a significant difference between now and last year is the populace at large has seen Trump actually holding office and what that has meant and what that has stirred up

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    HakkekageHakkekage Space Whore Academy summa cum laudeRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Xaquin wrote: »
    to be fair though, we were saying this the weeks before the 2016 election and ....

    great start, lets keep it up!

    cautious optimism, though a significant difference between now and last year is the populace at large has seen Trump actually holding office and what that has meant and what that has stirred up

    I like Ezra Klein's description of why it all blew up in Gillespie's face

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/11/7/16621994/ed-gillespie-ralph-northam-va-gov-trump
    The reason, I suspect, is that Bannon had it exactly backward. The age of Trumpism without Trump isn’t ahead of us. It’s behind us, at least for now. Trumpism without Trump was possible before Trump was president. It might be possible after he’s president. It’s not possible while he’s president.

    In 2016, Trump had the advantage of being a true outsider: He had no record to answer for, no unemployment rate to explain, no votes to justify. For all his oddities and eccentricities, he was a blank slate — a businessman to those who wanted a businessman, a culture warrior to those who wanted a culture warrior, a pragmatist to those who wanted a pragmatist, a conservative to those who wanted a conservative, and so on. He was theory severed from practice; “ism” without the reality check of is.

    But now we have Trumpism with Trump, and the American people don’t much like it. Trump is no longer an abstraction, Trumpism no longer an idea. Instead, we are watching the real thing: a White House in chaos, a legislative agenda in shambles, a world in which nuclear war is likelier and America’s global leadership is diminished. Trump isn’t merely unpopular; he is less popular than any president at this point in their term since the advent of modern polling, and he is that unpopular even though the economy is growing and Americans are not dying in large numbers overseas.

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    ArbitraryDescriptorArbitraryDescriptor changed Registered User regular
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    mojojoeo wrote: »
    If only there were a way for the gop to energize its base and try to save as much face as humanly possible going into the next year.... and here comes the impeachment talks.

    Just You Watch.

    your patience will be rewarded.

    The GOP is in a VERY bad spot right now. If they actively distance themselves from Trump, they fire up the base that already hates them and risk losing in a primary. But if they stay aligned with Trump, they risk losing in the general.

    I wish I could say I pity them, but......you fuckers dug your own graves, now you sit in them, you fuckers.

    They dug them, and they're now balancing on a tightrope high above them. The national GOP has been artificially staving off the demographic shift with their redistricting. If Dems are allowed to redraw the lines and breakup their strongholds, not to mention create new strongholds of their own, that's potebtially going to be a long hard fall.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    I was reading about some of the other races, like for lieutenant governor. Saw the pictures of the candidates, thought, "wait they seem familiar" and remembered this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSHWSqYK7OQ&amp;feature=youtu.be

    There's so much terrible crap that it's hard to remember everything, hold all that awfulness in mind, but I guess Virginia voters did, and kept out the racist reactionary. Good for Fairfax, and good for Virginia.

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