I'm getting less than enthused to show up myself. A lot of the regular raid group is just not showing up, and those that are showing up aren't the best and brightest. I'm getting tired of trying to tactfully say things like "Keep hots on the tank at all times" when our overgeared tanks who are doing their mitigation correctly fall over due to lack of (any) heals.
So, since that's a thing our group is constantly doing normal instead of heroic, when by ilvl we overgear heroic BRF. I wish I had spent my time playing Pillars of Eternity tonight. Next week I'm laying down the law for myself. I'm not doing regular. If we can't get it together for heroic, I'll do something more interesting with my time than knock over the same pushover bosses.
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MortiousThe Nightmare BeginsMove to New ZealandRegistered Userregular
I just found a Ghost Iron Lockbox inside another Ghost Iron Lockbox.
My guild is also running into the lack of regular attendance issues. We've finally dipped our toes into heroic and knocked down Gruul, Beastlord and Hanz & Franz on our first real serious tries. We've cleared normal up to Blackhand and should continue to make decent progress... if people show up.
So, if anyone is interested in joining an alliance side raid that runs from about 5:30 pm PDT to about 8:30-9:00 pm on Saturdays and from 5:30 to about 8:30 on Sundays, feel free to give me a PM. We're always looking for more, especially if you've got a few more people who might be interested in showing up regularly. We don't mind people being undergeared, since we're willing to help fix that problem if the person is going to stick around.
I don't know if it's spring break, the fact Blackhand got released in LFR, or what, but the game's been a ghost town for me this week. I went into Ashran earlier for the daily apexis quest and there were literally only 5 other Horde in there.
BRF feels a bit overtuned for most people and 6.1 didn't add anything that couldn't be done in a week. There's a definite feel of lack of content and people are leaving.
There will probably be at least some sort of resurgence once they release the token. I definitely know some people who are planning on coming back once the game goes practically f2p for them.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
i think the overtuning was addressed with the ilevel bump
BRF was nicely difficult, but the rewards didn't match. Now they do.
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
In other news, I got Deck Defender last night on the Enh. So I'm only missing two platforms for Madness. Except that when I kill the tentacles on one of those two platforms first, I still don't get credit for it. I'll have to look up what odd bullshit changes when you run that fight as solo. I may have to bring in a friend or use a pet on my DK, so that the fight recognizes that I'm starting on a given platform.
Spine is still an asshole; but it's less of an asshole when I can Ghost Wolf and run across his back forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
And after a night of experience on Blast Furnace, I've decided to go back to T5 and get the Cataclysm set, along with the fist weaps.
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
In other news, I got Deck Defender last night on the Enh. So I'm only missing two platforms for Madness. Except that when I kill the tentacles on one of those two platforms first, I still don't get credit for it. I'll have to look up what odd bullshit changes when you run that fight as solo. I may have to bring in a friend or use a pet on my DK, so that the fight recognizes that I'm starting on a given platform.
Spine is still an asshole; but it's less of an asshole when I can Ghost Wolf and run across his back forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
And after a night of experience on Blast Furnace, I've decided to go back to T5 and get the Cataclysm set, along with the fist weaps.
Back in vanilla, I raided 7 days a week... but I was also in high school so that was a thing I could do.
BC/WOTLK it was about 3 days at 4 hours each, and Cata I only had a 10m that ran 2 days for 4h. MOP was just LFR for me, and I didn't last in that expansion.
Doing 2-3 days a week at 3h is a sweet spot for me as well.
RE: Madness, you're running to the other platform as soon as possible, right? And not waiting until he starts attacking. I didn't end up having any issues when I did it.
Have fun farming Hyjal trash for those fists :P
Speaking of fists, I should transfer/level my rogue...
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
Maybe a little off topic, but how do you carve out time for that? Is it because your kids are a bit older? I've got a 3 year old and a newborn, and it's a challenge.
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
Maybe a little off topic, but how do you carve out time for that? Is it because your kids are a bit older? I've got a 3 year old and a newborn, and it's a challenge.
My wife and I are bedtime Nazis with the kids. Plus I can't stand most of the tv she watches, so I don't mind missing out on her shows. On raid nights it's something like this (all times EST):
530-6: I pick up kids and we get home. Wife drops the kids off in the morning so that I can get into work earlier. Dinner is usually in process. We try to work together to figure out meals.
6-7: Fight with the kids to eat, work with 6yo on her homework, walk the dog (bathe kids if needed; wife and I split duties so one of us gets a mental break by walking the dog)
7-8/830: Change for bed, brush teeth, head to bedrooms. Read a bit and rock/lay with kids until they fall asleep
9: raid starts
12-1: I head to bed
I used to be chronically late by 10-15 mins, but our 4yo has been better about going to bed since about Christmas.
When we had a newborn both times, I worked it out with the wife that she would take first shift and I would do the midnight feeding since that was when I was finishing up raid. With the second child, I put the oldest to bed while my wife handled the baby until the late feeding.
Really, though, if you and your wife discuss a plan/schedule, it can work. There's a good chance you'll have to do more for her on the non-raid nights.
We raid Tue/Wed, but I've done Tue/Thu and Mon/Wed raid schedules without too much issue.
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SteevLWhat can I do for you?Registered Userregular
I just found a Ghost Iron Lockbox inside another Ghost Iron Lockbox.
I actually had this happen with one ghost iron lockbox three times in a row. It was a goddamn matryoshka doll of lockboxes. In the end, the only thing that was in it was some gold and a green item.
I just found a Ghost Iron Lockbox inside another Ghost Iron Lockbox.
I actually had this happen with one ghost iron lockbox three times in a row. It was a goddamn matryoshka doll of lockboxes. In the end, the only thing that was in it was some gold and a green item.
Yeah. Lockboxes drop greens and lockboxes themselves count as greens. It's rare but it happens.
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SteevLWhat can I do for you?Registered Userregular
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
Maybe a little off topic, but how do you carve out time for that? Is it because your kids are a bit older? I've got a 3 year old and a newborn, and it's a challenge.
My wife and I are bedtime Nazis with the kids. Plus I can't stand most of the tv she watches, so I don't mind missing out on her shows. On raid nights it's something like this (all times EST):
530-6: I pick up kids and we get home. Wife drops the kids off in the morning so that I can get into work earlier. Dinner is usually in process. We try to work together to figure out meals.
6-7: Fight with the kids to eat, work with 6yo on her homework, walk the dog (bathe kids if needed; wife and I split duties so one of us gets a mental break by walking the dog)
7-8/830: Change for bed, brush teeth, head to bedrooms. Read a bit and rock/lay with kids until they fall asleep
9: raid starts
12-1: I head to bed
I used to be chronically late by 10-15 mins, but our 4yo has been better about going to bed since about Christmas.
When we had a newborn both times, I worked it out with the wife that she would take first shift and I would do the midnight feeding since that was when I was finishing up raid. With the second child, I put the oldest to bed while my wife handled the baby until the late feeding.
Really, though, if you and your wife discuss a plan/schedule, it can work. There's a good chance you'll have to do more for her on the non-raid nights.
We raid Tue/Wed, but I've done Tue/Thu and Mon/Wed raid schedules without too much issue.
That is about how it works for me. I have a 7 year old, 4 year old, and a 13 month old. They are in bed at 8:30 period on weeknights. Generally my game playing happens after that if my wife doesn't already have something planned.
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Kai_SanCommonly known as Klineshrike!Registered Userregular
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
Maybe a little off topic, but how do you carve out time for that? Is it because your kids are a bit older? I've got a 3 year old and a newborn, and it's a challenge.
My wife and I are bedtime Nazis with the kids. Plus I can't stand most of the tv she watches, so I don't mind missing out on her shows. On raid nights it's something like this (all times EST):
530-6: I pick up kids and we get home. Wife drops the kids off in the morning so that I can get into work earlier. Dinner is usually in process. We try to work together to figure out meals.
6-7: Fight with the kids to eat, work with 6yo on her homework, walk the dog (bathe kids if needed; wife and I split duties so one of us gets a mental break by walking the dog)
7-8/830: Change for bed, brush teeth, head to bedrooms. Read a bit and rock/lay with kids until they fall asleep
9: raid starts
12-1: I head to bed
I used to be chronically late by 10-15 mins, but our 4yo has been better about going to bed since about Christmas.
When we had a newborn both times, I worked it out with the wife that she would take first shift and I would do the midnight feeding since that was when I was finishing up raid. With the second child, I put the oldest to bed while my wife handled the baby until the late feeding.
Really, though, if you and your wife discuss a plan/schedule, it can work. There's a good chance you'll have to do more for her on the non-raid nights.
We raid Tue/Wed, but I've done Tue/Thu and Mon/Wed raid schedules without too much issue.
Haha you have kids that stay in bed after bedtime?
Lucky, its a coin flip if my almost 4 year old gets up and my 1.5 year old will stay in his bed for 1-2 hours max.
My kids routinely hate sleep. There are points where they are willingly not going to bed, willingly waking up early, and have darkness under their eyes. Yet they keep. Going. Forever.
We do two nights a week, for 3h each night. I've been running a similar schedule since the end of BC (with different guilds/raids); and it pretty much hits the sweet spot for me. And I have two kids (4 and 6).
Maybe a little off topic, but how do you carve out time for that? Is it because your kids are a bit older? I've got a 3 year old and a newborn, and it's a challenge.
My wife and I are bedtime Nazis with the kids. Plus I can't stand most of the tv she watches, so I don't mind missing out on her shows. On raid nights it's something like this (all times EST):
530-6: I pick up kids and we get home. Wife drops the kids off in the morning so that I can get into work earlier. Dinner is usually in process. We try to work together to figure out meals.
6-7: Fight with the kids to eat, work with 6yo on her homework, walk the dog (bathe kids if needed; wife and I split duties so one of us gets a mental break by walking the dog)
7-8/830: Change for bed, brush teeth, head to bedrooms. Read a bit and rock/lay with kids until they fall asleep
9: raid starts
12-1: I head to bed
I used to be chronically late by 10-15 mins, but our 4yo has been better about going to bed since about Christmas.
When we had a newborn both times, I worked it out with the wife that she would take first shift and I would do the midnight feeding since that was when I was finishing up raid. With the second child, I put the oldest to bed while my wife handled the baby until the late feeding.
Really, though, if you and your wife discuss a plan/schedule, it can work. There's a good chance you'll have to do more for her on the non-raid nights.
We raid Tue/Wed, but I've done Tue/Thu and Mon/Wed raid schedules without too much issue.
Haha you have kids that stay in bed after bedtime?
Lucky, its a coin flip if my almost 4 year old gets up and my 1.5 year old will stay in his bed for 1-2 hours max.
My kids routinely hate sleep. There are points where they are willingly not going to bed, willingly waking up early, and have darkness under their eyes. Yet they keep. Going. Forever.
When I was a dedicated raider (pretty much all of TBC and Wrath, some of Cata), it was much the same - two nights a week, three hours per night. Without kids it wasn't a problem, but once we had our daughter in '07, all bets were off. She did not sleep well and when she did it was unpredictable so for me to be able to lock myself away for three hours at a time? Hah, my wife would've shot or left me (or shot, THEN left me).
Kudos to you folks who have kids and can get them fed/homeworked/bathed/read to/put to sleep and then still find time to raid for hours and go to bed without waking up in the morning without an intense desire to kill, but I couldn't do it. That is definitely a YMMV issue.
I tell you though, I always wonder what my life would've been like if this game had existed when I was a teenager. What would I have been able to achieve?
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Anyone here play Brewmaster? What tier pieces are you using/going for?
There are better offset pieces and the bonuses are pretty terrible.
edit: probably the gloves and shoulders are worth wearing for the 2pc as both have Mastery, but none of the other pieces have Mastery so I wouldn't wear them.
What's sad is the arena gladiator set has a better 4 piece bonus than the monk tier set and the stat distribution looks better too. If there wasn't such a ilevel gap between the gladiator set and the raid gear, I'd wear the gladiator set in a heartbeat.
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Dhalphirdon't you open that trapdooryou're a fool if you dareRegistered Userregular
Yeah the T17 Brewmaster 4pc is awful, I have no idea how they think monks are playing if they thought that was useful
Anyone here play Brewmaster? What tier pieces are you using/going for?
There are better offset pieces and the bonuses are pretty terrible.
edit: probably the gloves and shoulders are worth wearing for the 2pc as both have Mastery, but none of the other pieces have Mastery so I wouldn't wear them.
I stack crit. But yeah, I took your advice and wear the 2pc.
@Aegis where are you? you've been missing all the fun* that is Blast Furnace....
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fun may or may not be subjective
I'm sure it's great for chickens what with all the adds
I actually like the fight thus far
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SteevLWhat can I do for you?Registered Userregular
Successfully got platinum tonight when helping a random person with an invasion in their garrison, only to get insulted about my DPS which actually made me feel kind of lousy, and somehow I ended up watching a 2 and a half hour video on youtube of some guys playing through the Deadmines on a private vanilla server. It was fascinating to watch. At least three of the people in the group had never been to an instance in WoW before. I felt that watching it was, for the most part, an accurate representation of doing instances with random people in the early days.
It was from the point of view of the tank, who obviously did not know how to tank. They had a full wipe on Mr. Smite because he went for the treasure chest while everyone was still recovering from the previous battle (a common theme throughout the video). He couldn't really deal with multiple adds at all, and stayed in battle stance the whole time. Somehow, they managed to kill Van Cleef, but wiped a few times on the way. There was some waiting around on the warlock's soulstone cooldown at least twice. It was definitely a few patches into vanilla, because there was a key ring and quest tracking. It was weird seeing the old water texture again. The tank mostly pulled mobs with his gun, and had a few stacks of ammo in his bags.
Anyway, it made me both nostalgic for my time with vanilla, and reminded me that I'd never want to go back to that again.
I bought mine at the end of Cata from the AH. I used TUJ to find low prices and relatively stable supply, then made an alt and moved it over with a guild (with some extra funds just in case). So for all intents and purposes, I paid $35 for it. And it was worth it.
I think at the time, I paid under 300k gold for the rare version. The only difference between the two (other than price) is that the epic version has armor. I think the rare version is more aesthetically pleasing.
I believe I bought mine on Stormrage.
And for what it's worth, I recently used some of the extra gold on the Spectral Tiger alt to buy an (obviously duped because it was only 60k) Onyx Panther and I haven't "gotten in trouble" for buying it yet. Also purchased from the AH.
Regarding tier, I wish more tier set bonuses had the synergy that the Enh set has this tier. 2p: Stormstrike reduces the cooldown on Feral Spirits by 5s. 4p: when you use Feral Spirits, you turn into a feral spirit, and your wolves can proc Windfury (also movement speed buff).
I think if more classes had similar synergy, the tier sets would be much more desirable and interesting.
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that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
So, since that's a thing our group is constantly doing normal instead of heroic, when by ilvl we overgear heroic BRF. I wish I had spent my time playing Pillars of Eternity tonight. Next week I'm laying down the law for myself. I'm not doing regular. If we can't get it together for heroic, I'll do something more interesting with my time than knock over the same pushover bosses.
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yo dawg, we heard you like lockboxes?
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So, if anyone is interested in joining an alliance side raid that runs from about 5:30 pm PDT to about 8:30-9:00 pm on Saturdays and from 5:30 to about 8:30 on Sundays, feel free to give me a PM. We're always looking for more, especially if you've got a few more people who might be interested in showing up regularly. We don't mind people being undergeared, since we're willing to help fix that problem if the person is going to stick around.
There will probably be at least some sort of resurgence once they release the token. I definitely know some people who are planning on coming back once the game goes practically f2p for them.
BRF was nicely difficult, but the rewards didn't match. Now they do.
In other news, I got Deck Defender last night on the Enh. So I'm only missing two platforms for Madness. Except that when I kill the tentacles on one of those two platforms first, I still don't get credit for it. I'll have to look up what odd bullshit changes when you run that fight as solo. I may have to bring in a friend or use a pet on my DK, so that the fight recognizes that I'm starting on a given platform.
Spine is still an asshole; but it's less of an asshole when I can Ghost Wolf and run across his back forever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
And after a night of experience on Blast Furnace, I've decided to go back to T5 and get the Cataclysm set, along with the fist weaps.
BC/WOTLK it was about 3 days at 4 hours each, and Cata I only had a 10m that ran 2 days for 4h. MOP was just LFR for me, and I didn't last in that expansion.
Doing 2-3 days a week at 3h is a sweet spot for me as well.
RE: Madness, you're running to the other platform as soon as possible, right? And not waiting until he starts attacking. I didn't end up having any issues when I did it.
Have fun farming Hyjal trash for those fists :P
Speaking of fists, I should transfer/level my rogue...
Maybe a little off topic, but how do you carve out time for that? Is it because your kids are a bit older? I've got a 3 year old and a newborn, and it's a challenge.
My wife and I are bedtime Nazis with the kids. Plus I can't stand most of the tv she watches, so I don't mind missing out on her shows. On raid nights it's something like this (all times EST):
530-6: I pick up kids and we get home. Wife drops the kids off in the morning so that I can get into work earlier. Dinner is usually in process. We try to work together to figure out meals.
6-7: Fight with the kids to eat, work with 6yo on her homework, walk the dog (bathe kids if needed; wife and I split duties so one of us gets a mental break by walking the dog)
7-8/830: Change for bed, brush teeth, head to bedrooms. Read a bit and rock/lay with kids until they fall asleep
9: raid starts
12-1: I head to bed
I used to be chronically late by 10-15 mins, but our 4yo has been better about going to bed since about Christmas.
When we had a newborn both times, I worked it out with the wife that she would take first shift and I would do the midnight feeding since that was when I was finishing up raid. With the second child, I put the oldest to bed while my wife handled the baby until the late feeding.
Really, though, if you and your wife discuss a plan/schedule, it can work. There's a good chance you'll have to do more for her on the non-raid nights.
We raid Tue/Wed, but I've done Tue/Thu and Mon/Wed raid schedules without too much issue.
I actually had this happen with one ghost iron lockbox three times in a row. It was a goddamn matryoshka doll of lockboxes. In the end, the only thing that was in it was some gold and a green item.
Yeah. Lockboxes drop greens and lockboxes themselves count as greens. It's rare but it happens.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
We are not going to even try this.
WTF? Was he just spinning the camera around?
Apparently keyboard turning makes the trains and the rolling Oregorger ignore you. Is a bug/exploit.
That is about how it works for me. I have a 7 year old, 4 year old, and a 13 month old. They are in bed at 8:30 period on weeknights. Generally my game playing happens after that if my wife doesn't already have something planned.
Haha you have kids that stay in bed after bedtime?
Lucky, its a coin flip if my almost 4 year old gets up and my 1.5 year old will stay in his bed for 1-2 hours max.
My kids routinely hate sleep. There are points where they are willingly not going to bed, willingly waking up early, and have darkness under their eyes. Yet they keep. Going. Forever.
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When I was a dedicated raider (pretty much all of TBC and Wrath, some of Cata), it was much the same - two nights a week, three hours per night. Without kids it wasn't a problem, but once we had our daughter in '07, all bets were off. She did not sleep well and when she did it was unpredictable so for me to be able to lock myself away for three hours at a time? Hah, my wife would've shot or left me (or shot, THEN left me).
Kudos to you folks who have kids and can get them fed/homeworked/bathed/read to/put to sleep and then still find time to raid for hours and go to bed without waking up in the morning without an intense desire to kill, but I couldn't do it. That is definitely a YMMV issue.
I tell you though, I always wonder what my life would've been like if this game had existed when I was a teenager. What would I have been able to achieve?
There are better offset pieces and the bonuses are pretty terrible.
edit: probably the gloves and shoulders are worth wearing for the 2pc as both have Mastery, but none of the other pieces have Mastery so I wouldn't wear them.
I stack crit. But yeah, I took your advice and wear the 2pc.
Steam: pazython
Adding both offense and defense is a huge thing to not do.
But thats boring and I dun wanna
In all seriousness, I do prefer the more active style offered by crit.
Edit: Also saw that the only non-tier leather pants drop of blackhand, which I haven't done on my monk. So moot point wiher way.
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It was from the point of view of the tank, who obviously did not know how to tank. They had a full wipe on Mr. Smite because he went for the treasure chest while everyone was still recovering from the previous battle (a common theme throughout the video). He couldn't really deal with multiple adds at all, and stayed in battle stance the whole time. Somehow, they managed to kill Van Cleef, but wiped a few times on the way. There was some waiting around on the warlock's soulstone cooldown at least twice. It was definitely a few patches into vanilla, because there was a key ring and quest tracking. It was weird seeing the old water texture again. The tank mostly pulled mobs with his gun, and had a few stacks of ammo in his bags.
Anyway, it made me both nostalgic for my time with vanilla, and reminded me that I'd never want to go back to that again.
is it pretty safe to just buy one off the AH?
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
The GM replied by shutting down raiding (they were already hurting for bodies and pugging most raid nights).
I think at the time, I paid under 300k gold for the rare version. The only difference between the two (other than price) is that the epic version has armor. I think the rare version is more aesthetically pleasing.
I believe I bought mine on Stormrage.
And for what it's worth, I recently used some of the extra gold on the Spectral Tiger alt to buy an (obviously duped because it was only 60k) Onyx Panther and I haven't "gotten in trouble" for buying it yet. Also purchased from the AH.
I think if more classes had similar synergy, the tier sets would be much more desirable and interesting.