I am guessing they got rid of 4 day passes due to the price. It makes sense though to make room for more people that way. I'm all for it.
Robert said at East that they were experimenting with getting rid of the 4 day badge. When asked about the possibility of offering to combine single days into a 4 day, they said it wasn't possible his year due to the lead time to print everything. Hopefully next year this will be an option. Not for price, just for ease of use. Cosplayers need to have a sticker on the badge to show they went to weapons check. This system means they need to go every day, or try peeling it from badge to badge. Tedious.
I signed up earlier this week and I didn't get the email. I didn't even expect it to happen again after last year's events, but I guess it did?
Also, with people saying it's individual passes leads me to believe that Khoo is finally taking the path of eliminating weekend passes altogether. Knowing how quickly the 4-Days sold out last year anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if they've been removed.
I signed up earlier this week and I didn't even get the email. Well that's a fucking shame...
The fact that it's individual passes leads me to believe that Khoo is finally taking the path of eliminating weekend passes altogether. I didn't even expect it to happen again this year, but I just hope that email shows up because I'd really like to receive something I technically signed in time to get
I believe the deadline for signing up was before PAX East, so that they could prepare their email lists before they left.
http://forum.frontrowcrew.com/discussion/9953/pax-prime-2015
So, club pa apparently did THIS again. Last year, it was only one badge you could buy; but, this guy said he bought "badges"...so how many could the club pa'ers buy this year?? Even less 4-day badges are now available for us to buy.
Darn it Khoo... I thought you got the message to not do that this year after last year's thing got leaked... I thought Club PA wasn't supposed to be a PAX pass tax.
If Penny Arcade wants to offer a perk to PA members, whom support them year round with a monetary requirement, then good for them. That is awesome of them as a company. You are taking care of your own. These people support you and they deserve whatever you can give back to them.
Wait...what makes you so sure their members are supporting them year round? How do you know there aren't members who joined in the last couple months and paid a shorter sub at a chance of this happening again and will cancel their sub until next year this time? Is that taking care of their own?
Also, I agree last year wasn't detrimental to available tickets cause they only sold one to their members...but how many could club pa members buy this year? Doesn't sound like it was just one...
I wouldn't even care if they subbed for like 1 month, got the perk, and left to be honest with you. Were you a member at the time this occurred? Yes? Did you take advantage of the perk? Yes? Cool. You paid at a minimum $10 more for your tickets than any non-ClubPA member and at a minimum that $10 went to the company who brings you this glorious event, the content you love, laughs, love, triumph over evil, etc. If this type of scenario were a problem, and Khoo were genuinely concerned it would affect the overall PAX experience then it wouldn't occur (he'd cap the amount so once they were out they were out, etc).
Again, I understand not everyone will agree with me. Put your faith in Robert Khoo. The guy has a solid understanding of this, he set up and has effectively run 4 of them quarterly throughout the year.
Right, the fact of the matter is that for club PA they say "bonus access and events" and they as a business are able to do what they want in regards to PAX(and it's 'spirit'). Obviously Pax has a meaning to us, but at the end of the day either you trust the 'system' and believe that the Club PA passes won't do any damage, or you don't trust the system and just don't put your money into it. Don't support a system you don't agree with.
In fact, as far as I'm concerned the biggest issue is having a ticket/badge system based solely on your ability to monitor a website during working hours, not them throwing a bone to club PA members. You can't really claim that PAX is 'general public', when the only ones who can buy it are those with the luxury of being in front of a computer and monitor the website 24/7. There is a tax to PAX, it's not the ten dollars or whatever you pay for club PA, it's having the time to monitor this website for weeks on end.
Last thing, remember that they have created 4 PAXes! While I have my qualms with the badge purchasing system, they clearly realize the popularity of PAX and are trying to cater to the community the best they can.
My biggest issue is like- yah I have an access to a computer at work. But I also work by myself retail. So if I am busy with a customer and badges go on sale the 5 minutes in the morning I am ACTUALLY with someone I am gunna be so peeved.
As one of the people who does have the luxury to camp the website, I'm thinking of picking up extra passes this year and selling them at cost to people who miss the window. Then again, if a lot of us do that, it'll just make the ticket window even more congested... maybe not. We'll see, when they actually go on sale.
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My biggest issue is like- yah I have an access to a computer at work. But I also work by myself retail. So if I am busy with a customer and badges go on sale the 5 minutes in the morning I am ACTUALLY with someone I am gunna be so peeved.
Last year badges went on sale when I was driving up along central California. My phone buzzed(twitter mobile alerts!) and my fiance said that PAX tickets were on sale, we had to pull over to a McDonalds for it's wifi and use her phone. Got the tickets, but it was pure luck I wasn't in the lab that day.
That being said, one strategy is to have a badge buying group, since one person can buy (could buy at least) two tickets. Even if your busy, your other group mates might be able to get to the computer and can purchase for you. I do this with my friends for SDCC, and it works out pretty well, the only problem with PAX is everyone needs to understand the urgency and need for alertness if they're new or haven't gone since 2011 when tickets didn't sell out in 20 minutes...
As one of the people who does have the luxury to camp the website, I'm thinking of picking up extra passes this year and selling them at cost to people who miss the window. Then again, if a lot of us do that, it'll just make the ticket window even more congested... maybe not. We'll see, when they actually go on sale.
If you don't have specific people you are going to sell the tickets too, I would suggest just buying what you need. Every one you buy is a person who can't get them.
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That being said, one strategy is to have a badge buying group, since one person can buy (could buy at least) two tickets. Even if your busy, your other group mates might be able to get to the computer and can purchase for you. I do this with my friends for SDCC, and it works out pretty well, the only problem with PAX is everyone needs to understand the urgency and need for alertness if they're new or haven't gone since 2011 when tickets didn't sell out in 20 minutes...
For me group buying is kind of odd. I have a group of 3 who goes. And I know another group of 3 who goes. This makes it so we can't just buy them in one shot. I would love to combine our groups since both groups really only have 1 person who can watch with any regularity.
That being said, one strategy is to have a badge buying group, since one person can buy (could buy at least) two tickets. Even if your busy, your other group mates might be able to get to the computer and can purchase for you. I do this with my friends for SDCC, and it works out pretty well, the only problem with PAX is everyone needs to understand the urgency and need for alertness if they're new or haven't gone since 2011 when tickets didn't sell out in 20 minutes...
For me group buying is kind of odd. I have a group of 3 who goes. And I know another group of 3 who goes. This makes it so we can't just buy them in one shot. I would love to combine our groups since both groups really only have 1 person who can watch with any regularity.
Yeah, getting everyone on the same page can be a headache, then there is the who do you buy for when the time comes. Requires a lot of communication, but so far this seems to be the best strategy.
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Yeah, getting everyone on the same page can be a headache, then there is the who do you buy for when the time comes. Requires a lot of communication, but so far this seems to be the best strategy.
Yeah we all try the best we can to work with what we are given in life...
That being said, one strategy is to have a badge buying group, since one person can buy (could buy at least) two tickets. Even if your busy, your other group mates might be able to get to the computer and can purchase for you. I do this with my friends for SDCC, and it works out pretty well, the only problem with PAX is everyone needs to understand the urgency and need for alertness if they're new or haven't gone since 2011 when tickets didn't sell out in 20 minutes...
Yah I feel like in our group there is only me who is really stressing about this and camping -_- Like dudes if we are all half as alerted as me then out chances go up like 150% DDDDDDDD:
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Yah I feel like in our group there is only me who is really stressing about this and camping -_- Like dudes if we are all half as alerted as me then out chances go up like 150% DDDDDDDD:
I know that feel...
I have tried to get my other friend motivated to help me watch, but I think he is starting to get over PAX. He has 2 bad years in a row, but still wants to attend if it is an option since he has been going since the first one.
My group strategy works like this:
4 people total, all with twitter alerts and SMS alerts set up and ready to go. Everyone has gchat that they can use while at work and pay semi-regular attention to. When ticket sale announcement is posted on twitter, the action happens:
1) Go to the ticket buying site ASAP (don't care if it's mobile or at your work computer or you have the day off, that's step 1)
2) While the page is loading, message everyone else in the group to see who else is able to pay attention to buy tickets
3) If someone responds that they know and are in queue = I don't buy their tickets
4) When I get through the ticket purchasing process with all the sets I need to buy, I message the others to let them know I have their tickets.
If I'm busy at the time, someone else takes on that role. 4 people having a < 1 hour window to guarantee full sets obviously isn't ideal, but it's far from the end of the world. Responding to twitter alerts is better and easier than site camping, especially if they get rid of 4-day passes.
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Yeah I think it was about 2 years ago that I got in the que less than 5 min after the tweet alert and waited in the que for about 2 hours before I was able to purchase tickets. That was harsh. I am glad they got better since then.
That being said, one strategy is to have a badge buying group, since one person can buy (could buy at least) two tickets. Even if your busy, your other group mates might be able to get to the computer and can purchase for you. I do this with my friends for SDCC, and it works out pretty well, the only problem with PAX is everyone needs to understand the urgency and need for alertness if they're new or haven't gone since 2011 when tickets didn't sell out in 20 minutes...
For me group buying is kind of odd. I have a group of 3 who goes. And I know another group of 3 who goes. This makes it so we can't just buy them in one shot. I would love to combine our groups since both groups really only have 1 person who can watch with any regularity.
Yeah, getting everyone on the same page can be a headache, then there is the who do you buy for when the time comes. Requires a lot of communication, but so far this seems to be the best strategy.
This year is my first year with more than four people going, so I'm already anticipating a headache when badge sales roll around. I've always been the one who buys the tickets, but now I'm trying to "train" all my friends on how to watch for twitter updates, etc. It makes me kind of nervous since they haven't lived through the queue before. The thing that's bothering me most right now though is that I'm not sure how fast we'll be able to let each other know that we're in the queue or on the purchase page, etc. I mean, having 20 sets is better than having zero, but even then that's a pain in the ass with ReedPOP's zero refund policy.
I salute everyone who's had to group buy for more than four people before. This shit is pretty scary.
i really hope tickets go on sell soon.. I got tired of the F5 game last year. I have to travel to vegas at end of the month for work and if tickets go on sell while i am at vegas than i will be screwed since im the only one in my group who watches out for tickets. This will be our 8th pax prime.
Speaking of buying in sets, how many sets of tickets is one person allowed to buy? Is it limited to 2?
Two sets per person.
I thought it was 4??? -panics-
I have heard nothing about how many sets of badges people will be allowed to buy. Although previously you could (but weren't supposed to) buy 4 all-days and 4 of each single day. So if they remove the all-days, nobody will be able to buy 8 sets.
I think hoboking might have been referring the clubPA sale.
Actually I was referring to last year, but my memory is really bad. If it's four I'm actually relieved (assuming past performance is indicative of future results) since that means my group isn't in as bad a shape as I thought.
Since my memory is so shot, does anyone remember how long it was before "coming soon" turned into "on sale"?
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I think hoboking might have been referring the clubPA sale.
Actually I was referring to last year, but my memory is really bad. If it's four I'm actually relieved (assuming past performance is indicative of future results) since that means my group isn't in as bad a shape as I thought.
Since my memory is so shot, does anyone remember how long it was before "coming soon" turned into "on sale"?
Yeah, it was 4 last year. I got 3 last year.
Do you want the list for the sell out dates? Because I think it changes to coming soon shortly after the event is over.
I think hoboking might have been referring the clubPA sale.
Actually I was referring to last year, but my memory is really bad. If it's four I'm actually relieved (assuming past performance is indicative of future results) since that means my group isn't in as bad a shape as I thought.
Since my memory is so shot, does anyone remember how long it was before "coming soon" turned into "on sale"?
It's always worth repeating. There's nothing wrong with joining the camp-the-website-crowd for the experience and camaraderie (and there's definitely an appeal to that), but for all practical purposes, you're probably better served, and less stressed, just setting up Twitter and Twitter SMS alerts, instead of trying to analyze things like length of time between "coming soon" turning into "on sale".
Also, last year was kind of an anomaly. I think the wait was the longest it's ever been, by some time. Whether that's the new normal or not... no one knows.
How fast do the hotels fill up? I have always stayed with my brother away from downtown, but we kinda want to experience more of PAX this year. Badges can be had if you are willing to pay the price after the fact, but not sure how fast I need to get on the hotel? Can I wade through the queue and then the hotel line?
http://forum.frontrowcrew.com/discussion/9953/pax-prime-2015
So, club pa apparently did THIS again. Last year, it was only one badge you could buy; but, this guy said he bought "badges"...so how many could the club pa'ers buy this year?? Even less 4-day badges are now available for us to buy.
Darn it Khoo... I thought you got the message to not do that this year after last year's thing got leaked... I thought Club PA wasn't supposed to be a PAX pass tax.
I'm going to take a stand on behalf of Khoo and PA honestly, as this discussion is tired out. If you can, in fact, already purchase badges for Prime via Club PA (I'm not a member so I wouldn't know) then cool, grats on having badges thats awesome!
I'm sure a vast majority of you will disagree with this stance, but whatever, free country.
If Penny Arcade wants to offer a perk to PA members, whom support them year round with a monetary requirement, then good for them. That is awesome of them as a company. You are taking care of your own. These people support you and they deserve whatever you can give back to them. If that means one of the perks is being able to pre-purchase badges then so be it.
Should this be considered a badge tax? Nope, not in my opinion; I'll tell you why. I've spoke with Robert Khoo on a handful of occasions and respect him immensely. He is a smart, considerate person that can be relied on to make proper decisions in nearly every situation. If you think for a second that he would jeopardize the ability of a vast majority of PA fans to attend PAX you are delusional. The reason ClubPA shouldn't be considered a badge tax, is because it's not the only way to procure badges. I've never been a member; I've gone every year.
The argument is typically that it's unfair, or that you shouldn't have to afford ClubPA in order to have a better chance at 4-day passes. While that may be true, it's also not truly hampering your ability to attend by any fathomable number. Not being a member of ClubPA is your choice, not theirs. If PAX really means that much to you you'll skip eating out a few times a year and get ClubPA for the slim chance that it grants you early access to badge purchases. If you can't muster that, then you obviously aren't actually that offended by it :P
If they were being completely transparent about the whole thing, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue. The fact that they are trying to keep it secret again is the big issue. On the flip side of it, if I knew ahead of time that being a member of Club PA guarantees you a pass, then yeah, I would have paid for it, but at that point, paying extra to guarantee you the opportunity to buy passes, that's pretty much a badge tax.
I don't subscribe to Club PA because I have no need for the perks they're publicly advertising. I'm just a regular guy who enjoys gaming, and wants to go to PAX like everyone else. The thing about PAX is that it is meant to be open to the general public, and hiding an unknown number of tickets away from the general public reduces the chance that other regular people have to get tickets, and defeats the spirit of PAX being open to the public.
I think not having increased the prices to high amounts is still subscribing to the idea of PAX being open to the public. Lets be honest; he could jack up prices to $250 for a full set of badges, and it would still sell out in hours. Everyone knows this. But they haven't; and I think that speaks volumes to how they truly feel about PAX. Last year I think the amount of Club PA tickets sold were in the hundreds (200 or so IIRC); so compared to the 60k or so badges sold - it's a pretty small amount (and lets be honest, many of those Club PA folks probably would have bought badges anyway or are Enforcers already, so you aren't really reducing the pool of available tickets to ticket buyers by any substantial amount). I imagine if the total number of badge sets bought via ClubPA ever goes over like a thousand for a given show, then they will probably not do it after that.
I think the frustrating problem to PA is that the demand for PAX isn't dropping, even though they've increased it from one PAX to four PAX. They're getting single digit % overlaps between multiple PAXes...which is nutso.
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I understand the single digit overlap. They are all 3 set geographically far apart. And not everyone has the expendable income to pay for more than one trip of this caliber a year.
I for one am happy the best one is in my area. I would still probably attend which ever PAX is closest to the holiday season. I think it has the highest likely hood of having the games we all are waiting for.
I think hoboking might have been referring the clubPA sale.
Actually I was referring to last year, but my memory is really bad. If it's four I'm actually relieved (assuming past performance is indicative of future results) since that means my group isn't in as bad a shape as I thought.
Since my memory is so shot, does anyone remember how long it was before "coming soon" turned into "on sale"?
Yeah, it was 4 last year. I got 3 last year.
Do you want the list for the sell out dates? Because I think it changes to coming soon shortly after the event is over.
No I have that list, and if we call last year an outlier I'd guess first week of April. I'm referring to the time difference between when they updated the prime site from 2013 to 2014, and when they put them on sale. Since the site hasn't updated yet there's no need to worry, but when it does that's when you gotta be on your toes.
http://forum.frontrowcrew.com/discussion/9953/pax-prime-2015
So, club pa apparently did THIS again. Last year, it was only one badge you could buy; but, this guy said he bought "badges"...so how many could the club pa'ers buy this year?? Even less 4-day badges are now available for us to buy.
Darn it Khoo... I thought you got the message to not do that this year after last year's thing got leaked... I thought Club PA wasn't supposed to be a PAX pass tax.
I'm going to take a stand on behalf of Khoo and PA honestly, as this discussion is tired out. If you can, in fact, already purchase badges for Prime via Club PA (I'm not a member so I wouldn't know) then cool, grats on having badges thats awesome!
I'm sure a vast majority of you will disagree with this stance, but whatever, free country.
If Penny Arcade wants to offer a perk to PA members, whom support them year round with a monetary requirement, then good for them. That is awesome of them as a company. You are taking care of your own. These people support you and they deserve whatever you can give back to them. If that means one of the perks is being able to pre-purchase badges then so be it.
Should this be considered a badge tax? Nope, not in my opinion; I'll tell you why. I've spoke with Robert Khoo on a handful of occasions and respect him immensely. He is a smart, considerate person that can be relied on to make proper decisions in nearly every situation. If you think for a second that he would jeopardize the ability of a vast majority of PA fans to attend PAX you are delusional. The reason ClubPA shouldn't be considered a badge tax, is because it's not the only way to procure badges. I've never been a member; I've gone every year.
The argument is typically that it's unfair, or that you shouldn't have to afford ClubPA in order to have a better chance at 4-day passes. While that may be true, it's also not truly hampering your ability to attend by any fathomable number. Not being a member of ClubPA is your choice, not theirs. If PAX really means that much to you you'll skip eating out a few times a year and get ClubPA for the slim chance that it grants you early access to badge purchases. If you can't muster that, then you obviously aren't actually that offended by it :P
If they were being completely transparent about the whole thing, then it wouldn't be as much of an issue. The fact that they are trying to keep it secret again is the big issue. On the flip side of it, if I knew ahead of time that being a member of Club PA guarantees you a pass, then yeah, I would have paid for it, but at that point, paying extra to guarantee you the opportunity to buy passes, that's pretty much a badge tax.
I don't subscribe to Club PA because I have no need for the perks they're publicly advertising. I'm just a regular guy who enjoys gaming, and wants to go to PAX like everyone else. The thing about PAX is that it is meant to be open to the general public, and hiding an unknown number of tickets away from the general public reduces the chance that other regular people have to get tickets, and defeats the spirit of PAX being open to the public.
I think not having increased the prices to high amounts is still subscribing to the idea of PAX being open to the public. Lets be honest; he could jack up prices to $250 for a full set of badges, and it would still sell out in hours. Everyone knows this. But they haven't; and I think that speaks volumes to how they truly feel about PAX. Last year I think the amount of Club PA tickets sold were in the hundreds (200 or so IIRC); so compared to the 60k or so badges sold - it's a pretty small amount (and lets be honest, many of those Club PA folks probably would have bought badges anyway or are Enforcers already, so you aren't really reducing the pool of available tickets to ticket buyers by any substantial amount). I imagine if the total number of badge sets bought via ClubPA ever goes over like a thousand for a given show, then they will probably not do it after that.
I think the frustrating problem to PA is that the demand for PAX isn't dropping, even though they've increased it from one PAX to four PAX. They're getting single digit % overlaps between multiple PAXes...which is nutso.
Where do you get the attendee overlap data? I'm a sucker for data.
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No I have that list, and if we call last year an outlier I'd guess first week of April. I'm referring to the time difference between when they updated the prime site from 2013 to 2014, and when they put them on sale. Since the site hasn't updated yet there's no need to worry, but when it does that's when you gotta be on your toes.
I don't have the date you are looking for exactly but I will check some of the old threads in my time off, there might be something there but I don't know if someone has compiled it.
Edit addition: NM, the forum doesn't give more than the month when things are that old. Also a few other forums I checked are just as bad about giving dates to something 9 months ago. I tried though and I will keep thinking of ideas.
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Robert said at East that they were experimenting with getting rid of the 4 day badge. When asked about the possibility of offering to combine single days into a 4 day, they said it wasn't possible his year due to the lead time to print everything. Hopefully next year this will be an option. Not for price, just for ease of use. Cosplayers need to have a sticker on the badge to show they went to weapons check. This system means they need to go every day, or try peeling it from badge to badge. Tedious.
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Also, with people saying it's individual passes leads me to believe that Khoo is finally taking the path of eliminating weekend passes altogether. Knowing how quickly the 4-Days sold out last year anyway, it wouldn't surprise me if they've been removed.
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I believe the deadline for signing up was before PAX East, so that they could prepare their email lists before they left.
Makes sense. If this is true, grats to those who got in.
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Right, the fact of the matter is that for club PA they say "bonus access and events" and they as a business are able to do what they want in regards to PAX(and it's 'spirit'). Obviously Pax has a meaning to us, but at the end of the day either you trust the 'system' and believe that the Club PA passes won't do any damage, or you don't trust the system and just don't put your money into it. Don't support a system you don't agree with.
In fact, as far as I'm concerned the biggest issue is having a ticket/badge system based solely on your ability to monitor a website during working hours, not them throwing a bone to club PA members. You can't really claim that PAX is 'general public', when the only ones who can buy it are those with the luxury of being in front of a computer and monitor the website 24/7. There is a tax to PAX, it's not the ten dollars or whatever you pay for club PA, it's having the time to monitor this website for weeks on end.
Last thing, remember that they have created 4 PAXes! While I have my qualms with the badge purchasing system, they clearly realize the popularity of PAX and are trying to cater to the community the best they can.
Last year badges went on sale when I was driving up along central California. My phone buzzed(twitter mobile alerts!) and my fiance said that PAX tickets were on sale, we had to pull over to a McDonalds for it's wifi and use her phone. Got the tickets, but it was pure luck I wasn't in the lab that day.
That being said, one strategy is to have a badge buying group, since one person can buy (could buy at least) two tickets. Even if your busy, your other group mates might be able to get to the computer and can purchase for you. I do this with my friends for SDCC, and it works out pretty well, the only problem with PAX is everyone needs to understand the urgency and need for alertness if they're new or haven't gone since 2011 when tickets didn't sell out in 20 minutes...
For me group buying is kind of odd. I have a group of 3 who goes. And I know another group of 3 who goes. This makes it so we can't just buy them in one shot. I would love to combine our groups since both groups really only have 1 person who can watch with any regularity.
Yeah, getting everyone on the same page can be a headache, then there is the who do you buy for when the time comes. Requires a lot of communication, but so far this seems to be the best strategy.
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I know that feel...
I have tried to get my other friend motivated to help me watch, but I think he is starting to get over PAX. He has 2 bad years in a row, but still wants to attend if it is an option since he has been going since the first one.
4 people total, all with twitter alerts and SMS alerts set up and ready to go. Everyone has gchat that they can use while at work and pay semi-regular attention to. When ticket sale announcement is posted on twitter, the action happens:
1) Go to the ticket buying site ASAP (don't care if it's mobile or at your work computer or you have the day off, that's step 1)
2) While the page is loading, message everyone else in the group to see who else is able to pay attention to buy tickets
3) If someone responds that they know and are in queue = I don't buy their tickets
4) When I get through the ticket purchasing process with all the sets I need to buy, I message the others to let them know I have their tickets.
If I'm busy at the time, someone else takes on that role. 4 people having a < 1 hour window to guarantee full sets obviously isn't ideal, but it's far from the end of the world. Responding to twitter alerts is better and easier than site camping, especially if they get rid of 4-day passes.
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Two sets per person.
I salute everyone who's had to group buy for more than four people before. This shit is pretty scary.
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I thought it was 4??? -panics-
Last years it was 4, It better be four than my buddies will be screwed.
I have heard nothing about how many sets of badges people will be allowed to buy. Although previously you could (but weren't supposed to) buy 4 all-days and 4 of each single day. So if they remove the all-days, nobody will be able to buy 8 sets.
Getting 2 people through the queue for tickets is a lot easier than needing to get 4 of us through before sellout....
Well it was technically 8, you could buy 4x 4-days and 16x 1-days.
okay that makes more sense. I had a mini heart attack
I personally haven't tried or would try ordering that many badges but I saw people on this forum that ordered that many and were fine.
Actually I was referring to last year, but my memory is really bad. If it's four I'm actually relieved (assuming past performance is indicative of future results) since that means my group isn't in as bad a shape as I thought.
Since my memory is so shot, does anyone remember how long it was before "coming soon" turned into "on sale"?
Yeah, it was 4 last year. I got 3 last year.
Do you want the list for the sell out dates? Because I think it changes to coming soon shortly after the event is over.
It's always worth repeating. There's nothing wrong with joining the camp-the-website-crowd for the experience and camaraderie (and there's definitely an appeal to that), but for all practical purposes, you're probably better served, and less stressed, just setting up Twitter and Twitter SMS alerts, instead of trying to analyze things like length of time between "coming soon" turning into "on sale".
Also, last year was kind of an anomaly. I think the wait was the longest it's ever been, by some time. Whether that's the new normal or not... no one knows.
I think not having increased the prices to high amounts is still subscribing to the idea of PAX being open to the public. Lets be honest; he could jack up prices to $250 for a full set of badges, and it would still sell out in hours. Everyone knows this. But they haven't; and I think that speaks volumes to how they truly feel about PAX. Last year I think the amount of Club PA tickets sold were in the hundreds (200 or so IIRC); so compared to the 60k or so badges sold - it's a pretty small amount (and lets be honest, many of those Club PA folks probably would have bought badges anyway or are Enforcers already, so you aren't really reducing the pool of available tickets to ticket buyers by any substantial amount). I imagine if the total number of badge sets bought via ClubPA ever goes over like a thousand for a given show, then they will probably not do it after that.
I think the frustrating problem to PA is that the demand for PAX isn't dropping, even though they've increased it from one PAX to four PAX. They're getting single digit % overlaps between multiple PAXes...which is nutso.
I for one am happy the best one is in my area. I would still probably attend which ever PAX is closest to the holiday season. I think it has the highest likely hood of having the games we all are waiting for.
No I have that list, and if we call last year an outlier I'd guess first week of April. I'm referring to the time difference between when they updated the prime site from 2013 to 2014, and when they put them on sale. Since the site hasn't updated yet there's no need to worry, but when it does that's when you gotta be on your toes.
Where do you get the attendee overlap data? I'm a sucker for data.
I don't have the date you are looking for exactly but I will check some of the old threads in my time off, there might be something there but I don't know if someone has compiled it.
Edit addition: NM, the forum doesn't give more than the month when things are that old. Also a few other forums I checked are just as bad about giving dates to something 9 months ago. I tried though and I will keep thinking of ideas.