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[Metroid] The series so dead they resurrected it twice!

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    I don't know what it is, she just looks off to me. :P

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Samus as depicted in the Zero Suit is closer to 5'5, I think

    Without her armor on (and even with it, nowadays) she's shorter than the majority of men she's seen around

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  • BloodySlothBloodySloth Registered User regular
    These figures just reinforce how much I dislike Zero Suit Samus as a thing. These images just do not jive with the Samus I have in my head who's a real self-reliant badass. That's not to say you can't be that kind of pretty and also come off as a super badass (Bayonetta comes to mind, another character who I love), but then that's a very different sort of character, isn't it?

    I always liked this image of Samus. Less glamorous, but much more reflective of the no-nonsense character I always imagine. To each his own, I guess.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Samus as depicted in the Zero Suit is closer to 5'5, I think

    Without her armor on (and even with it, nowadays) she's shorter than the majority of men she's seen around

    Looking at height charts for Smash, she's decently tall in that. She's only shorter in armor than Bowser (GIANT DEATH TURTLE) Ganondorf (Seven foot something wall of pain), Rosealina (Way tall), and Captain Falcon (who is, apparently, very tall as well.).

    Zero suit's shorter, but she's still taller than Ike or Palutena.

    So, yeah. It's just Other M being other M.

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Smash isn't to scale. If it were, Ganon would be a ten-foot behemoth since in Twilight Princess Link only comes up to his waist

    Samus is just a lot shorter of late

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Samus is just a lot shorter in Other M

    Fixed. She's been tall in every other depiction, and it's likely everything about Other M will be ignored going forward.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I should also say when I say she looks "too tall" I mean relative to the shape of her body. Like, almost stretched - the proportions seem off. In fact, the more I look at it, the more convinced I am that this is my biggest problem with the figure. Compare the two (I'll spoiler since I think the Good Smile one is large):
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    Look at how long and lanky her legs are there. It just looks... off...

    Edit: I suppose I can't comment on the paint job of the new one yet (though Figma has always done a fantastic job), but the Good Smile one also comes off slightly cheap looking - at least in the face and hair which seems semi-monotone. It makes her look slightly plastic-y.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Yeah, those proportions are off.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Smash isn't to scale. If it were, Ganon would be a ten-foot behemoth since in Twilight Princess Link only comes up to his waist

    Samus is just a lot shorter of late

    I agree Smash isn't to scale (Although I'd focus on Olimar and Kirby for that since they're the most extreme examples), but I still think it's relevant to figuring out Nintendo's intent going forward that it has a taller Samus proportionally than Other M.

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  • Grape ApeGrape Ape Registered User regular
    I swear I had a nintendo power strategy guide for super metroid when I was a kid that said Samus was 6'0"

  • Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    Grape Ape wrote: »
    I swear I had a nintendo power strategy guide for super metroid when I was a kid that said Samus was 6'0"
    It was linked just above, on this page (third post, by BloodySloth). It says she's nearly 6'.

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  • SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Samus is just a lot shorter in Other M

    Fixed. She's been tall in every other depiction, and it's likely everything about Other M will be ignored going forward.

    Is it? Smash 4 Samus is Other M. The Samus amiibo is Other M. They keep making the character more and more generically feminine. Fuck's sake she wears heels now for some reason.

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  • cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Samus is just a lot shorter in Other M

    Fixed. She's been tall in every other depiction, and it's likely everything about Other M will be ignored going forward.

    Is it? Smash 4 Samus is Other M. The Samus amiibo is Other M. They keep making the character more and more generically feminine. Fuck's sake she wears heels now for some reason.

    Nah, she's definitely been embiggened and toughened up for Smash 4. And the Good Smile Figma figure looks like it lost the heels.

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  • OptyOpty Registered User regular
    Both of those Zero Suit figures appear to have her in wedge style heels

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  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    I loved the aesthetics of axiom verge so much, but it was one of those times one bad event spoiled my enjoyment of the game it total. For me that was the final boss. No legitimate way to win, either a specific weapon or hide in the corner. The run up to the boss wasn't very enjoyable either.
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    cloudeagle wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Samus is just a lot shorter in Other M

    Fixed. She's been tall in every other depiction, and it's likely everything about Other M will be ignored going forward.

    Is it? Smash 4 Samus is Other M. The Samus amiibo is Other M. They keep making the character more and more generically feminine. Fuck's sake she wears heels now for some reason.

    Nah, she's definitely been embiggened and toughened up for Smash 4. And the Good Smile figure looks like it lost the heels.

    I approve of your cromulent word choice.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    These figures just reinforce how much I dislike Zero Suit Samus as a thing. These images just do not jive with the Samus I have in my head who's a real self-reliant badass. That's not to say you can't be that kind of pretty and also come off as a super badass (Bayonetta comes to mind, another character who I love), but then that's a very different sort of character, isn't it?

    I always liked this image of Samus. Less glamorous, but much more reflective of the no-nonsense character I always imagine. To each his own, I guess.

    I have no problem with Samus being pretty in theory. Nothing says you can't be somewhat conventionally attractive and a cool space ronin heir to the warrior tradition of a bunch of magic bird monks. I start to get annoyed when said prettiness becomes the obvious topmost driving force of the design instead of simply a thing (triply so when this focus ends up with such stupidity as high-heeled boots on an interface/infiltration suit).

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Played Zero Mission on the VC recently.

    I forgot how short that game is, compared to games like Fusion and especially Super.

    I guess that's what you get when you remove all the BS identical maze rooms from the original Metroid.

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  • BRIAN BLESSEDBRIAN BLESSED Maybe you aren't SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGHHH Registered User regular
    I'm not even going to disagree that the Good Smile figure has weird proportions, her legs are fucking weird as shit since they're basically hyperextended as far as humanly possible in order to get that swimsuit pose

    Still, it's an incredibly detailed figure and it looks just as good in real life lighting as it does in the vanity shots on the website, which is more than can be said for a lot of other figures on the market

  • darunia106darunia106 J-bob in games Death MountainRegistered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Played Zero Mission on the VC recently.

    I forgot how short that game is, compared to games like Fusion and especially Super.

    I guess that's what you get when you remove all the BS identical maze rooms from the original Metroid.

    The game is pretty short but it's probably got the tightest and fastest movement in any 2d metroid game. Couple that with the game's length and the game is practically made to be speed run.

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Metroid
    Metroid II
    ...

    What?

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Assuming you've played the Metroids already

    Shadow Complex
    Axiom Verge
    Ori and the Blind Forest
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (I don't care if you've already played it. Play it again!)

  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Some a bit off the beaten path:
    La Mulana
    Cave Story
    Shantae
    Guacamelee

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Some a bit off the beaten path:
    La Mulana
    Cave Story
    Shantae
    Guacamelee

    The original Shantae is a bit rough around the edges.

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  • OneAngryPossumOneAngryPossum Registered User regular
    I want to love La Mulana, but that game is brutal. If the difficulty doesn't dissuade you there's a ton of meat there.

  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    I want to love La Mulana, but that game is brutal. If the difficulty doesn't dissuade you there's a ton of meat there.

    I love La Mulana, but I do think Cave story is a much more fair difficulty.

  • MorranMorran Registered User regular
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Assuming you've played the Metroids already

    Shadow Complex
    Axiom Verge
    Ori and the Blind Forest
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (I don't care if you've already played it. Play it again!)

    Any news for a 360 release of Ori and the blind forest? Wikipedia says tbd...

  • MorranMorran Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Assuming you've played the Metroids already

    Shadow Complex
    Axiom Verge
    Ori and the Blind Forest
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (I don't care if you've already played it. Play it again!)

    Also, the DS Castlevanias are pretty good.

    And, allowing a generous definition of Metroidvanias, i would recommend "steamworld dig".

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I wouldn't really consider Cave Story a Metroidvania. Too linear for that.

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  • PoochPooch Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    I wouldn't really consider Cave Story a Metroidvania. Too linear for that.

    Yeah, I never quite got the comparison either. I guess there's some backtracking and upgrade stuff, but comparing the two is like comparing Zelda to Final Fantasy.

    Cave Story is still awesome though.

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  • DrascinDrascin Registered User regular
    Morran wrote: »
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Assuming you've played the Metroids already

    Shadow Complex
    Axiom Verge
    Ori and the Blind Forest
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (I don't care if you've already played it. Play it again!)

    Also, the DS Castlevanias are pretty good.

    And, allowing a generous definition of Metroidvanias, i would recommend "steamworld dig".

    Order of Ecclessia is still one of, if not the, best Castlevania games, for my money.

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Drascin wrote: »
    Morran wrote: »
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Assuming you've played the Metroids already

    Shadow Complex
    Axiom Verge
    Ori and the Blind Forest
    Castlevania: Symphony of the Night (I don't care if you've already played it. Play it again!)

    Also, the DS Castlevanias are pretty good.

    And, allowing a generous definition of Metroidvanias, i would recommend "steamworld dig".

    Order of Ecclessia is still one of, if not the, best Castlevania games, for my money.

    I still have my copy.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Polaritie wrote: »
    Bluecyan wrote: »
    Molybdenum wrote: »
    Alright metroid thread, assemble me a list of Metroidvanias to play while I languish waiting for more metroid

    Some a bit off the beaten path:
    La Mulana
    Cave Story
    Shantae
    Guacamelee

    The original Shantae is a bit rough around the edges.

    I'd still reccomend Risky's Revenge and then Pirate's Curse.

    Pirate's Curse is an odd beast. Despite its areas unlocking via boss defeat and event flags, it's still very Metroidy in that the equipment and skills you unlock open secrets and progression in the new areas, and in previous ones.

    And the pirate equipment is great.

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  • LucascraftLucascraft Registered User regular
    Guacamelee is a great MetroidVania style game.

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  • Warlock82Warlock82 Never pet a burning dog Registered User regular
    Yes, Guacamelee is a fantastic Metroidvania game. And yes, I'd say even Risky's Revenge is a bit rough (to me it always felt like a shell of the game the devs actually wanted to make... hell, one of the dungeons is a monster gauntlet minigame...). I hate starting people off with Pirate's Curse but it's *so much* better than the other Shantae games.

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  • DelzhandDelzhand Hard to miss. Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Guacamelee, if you get it on PC, even has a downloadable Samus outfit that I used basically for the whole game. It's just a cosmetic Steam Workshop thing, totally unlicensed of course. And it's totally incongruous with everything else, but it's pretty well done.

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=216906309

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  • cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Guacamelee, if you get it on PC, even has a downloadable Samus outfit that I used basically for the whole game. It's just a cosmetic Steam Workshop thing, totally unlicensed of course. And it's totally incongruous with everything else, but it's pretty well done.

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  • RidleySariaRidleySaria AnaheimRegistered User regular
    I'd give Xeodrifter a try. The boss fights suck but I liked everything else about it.

    The first Batman Arkham game is also very Metroidy. So is the rebooted Tomb Raider.

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  • MolybdenumMolybdenum Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
    Delzhand wrote: »
    Guacamelee, if you get it on PC, even has a downloadable Samus outfit that I used basically for the whole game. It's just a cosmetic Steam Workshop thing, totally unlicensed of course. And it's totally incongruous with everything else, but it's pretty well done.

    https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=216906309
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    I own (and loved) Guacamelee on Wii U, but I will totally rebuy it in a steam sale to wear a samus costume.

    Didn't want to influence the suggestions; here's what I've already got.
    Unplayed in italics, finished (or at least finished enough for me to be satisfied) in strikethrough. Plain text is started and on-hold or in-progress.

    Super Metroid
    Prime 1
    Prime 2

    Prime 3
    Fusion Wii U
    Fusion [GBA]
    Hunters
    Prime Trilogy [Wii U]

    Guacamelee Super Turbo Championship Edition [Wii U]
    Steamworld: Dig [Wii U]
    Darksiders II [Wii U]

    Ori and the Blind Forest [pc]
    Shantae and the Pirate's Curse [wii u]


    I've seen enough gameplay of Axiom Verge and La Mulana to know they're probably not for me; if I catch them on sale I might buy just to support the devs/genre. Environment Station Alpha and Xeodrifter are in the same "wait for the sale" boat.

    Interested: ghost song
    Absolutely zero interest: rabi-rabi.

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