So, wait... the long ass Eris urn quest merely grants a pair of gauntlets that aren't any better than what you can get via the factions? What a waste of time/effort.
Is there an easy way to get element damage primaries, or is that relegated to raid legendaries and a few exotics? I can rely on Murmur and Ice Breaker for solar and arc, but I'd really like to get a void primary.
If you know a friendly Hunter, you can ask him/her to solo the Abyss section of HM Crota for a chance at the Arc Pulse Rifle. =P
I'm 0 for 2 trying to get one for a friend from work now.
Edit: Other classes can solo that encounter, but I only do it on my Hunter. Required lv30+ to zone into the raid on hard-mode.
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So, wait... the long ass Eris urn quest merely grants a pair of gauntlets that aren't any better than what you can get via the factions? What a waste of time/effort.
Is there an easy way to get element damage primaries, or is that relegated to raid legendaries and a few exotics? I can rely on Murmur and Ice Breaker for solar and arc, but I'd really like to get a void primary.
If you know a friendly Hunter, you can ask him/her to solo the Abyss section of HM Crota for a chance at the Arc Pulse Rifle. =P
I'm 0 for 2 trying to get one for a friend from work now.
Edit: Other classes can solo that encounter, but I only do it on my Hunter. Required lv30+ to zone into the raid on hard-mode.
I'm 0 for 3 on getting my friend an Oversoul Edict, but he got Willbreaker Gloves with perfect stats, Int/Disc and chance to drop orbs with precision kills.
Pretty good reward for being dead and watching me solo... And forgetting to equip my Dont Touch Me's and actually first finding out about that afterwards... I (single) jumped and bodysurfed the thralls for a couple seconds until the bridge spawned, very tense.
@skippymchaggis@Erevar, @Arteen ,
We good for Motorboat Kitten? @Brogey mentioned he wasn't going to be around due to PAX East travelling. If we need a fill in, I might have someone .
Also, I have read that weapon drops like secondaries and primaries are rare to non-existent on hard mode Crota. Is this true? I will say I don't recall getting a non-primary drop on hard mode .
only primaries drop in Hard Mode Crota. special and heavies from only Crota on Normal.
i'm good to go. i'd love to do a normal Crota kill. and would do both normal and hard if needed.
I'm in tonight for whatever you peoples are interested in doing.
Do we still need a 6th since @Brogey will be out tonight, or did @jefe414 say he had a buddy to fill in?
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I'm only rank 7 with Dead Orbit. I guess I don't play as much as some others. I joined dead orbit for the digital snow camo guns and the black armir, so I could make my hunter look like the one in the live-action trailer.
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@skippymchaggis@Erevar, @Arteen ,
We good for Motorboat Kitten? @Brogey mentioned he wasn't going to be around due to PAX East travelling. If we need a fill in, I might have someone .
Also, I have read that weapon drops like secondaries and primaries are rare to non-existent on hard mode Crota. Is this true? I will say I don't recall getting a non-primary drop on hard mode .
only primaries drop in Hard Mode Crota. special and heavies from only Crota on Normal.
i'm good to go. i'd love to do a normal Crota kill. and would do both normal and hard if needed.
I'm in tonight for whatever you peoples are interested in doing.
Do we still need a 6th since @Brogey will be out tonight, or did @jefe414 say he had a buddy to fill in?
I'm texting him now to double check.
EDIT: He's a loser and can't make it due to "not sure when I'm getting out of work". I'll check with another one.
... Aren't the FWC shaders the ones that drop randomly in the crucible?
*snip*
New Monarchy shaders are named after (surprise, surprise) monarchs/leaders/deities:
Amalthea
Cleopatra AK
Nefertiti AK
Themisto
*snip*
It's actually interesting to note that all the NM shaders are named after women. Who else do we know in Destinyland that is a female monarch? New Monarchy secretly trying to backdoor the Queen of the Reef into control of the Tower?
1. Discipline: Get those tripmines back sooner. With Ashes to Asset on the best Exotic for Gunslinger, these grenades will translate to extra super very quick. Combine with Scavenger for insane cooldowns.
2. Intellect: Almost an equal priority to Discipline. Golden Gun is your bread and butter for aggressive wave-clearing/Major takedowns. You want this high enough to benefit from Ashes to Asset/Inverse Shadow, but your mileage may vary with maxing out at the cost of another stat.
3. Strength: Throwing knife is fun, but it should never be prioritized above Disc/Int for a Gunslinger in PvE. Knife Juggler/Gambler’s Dagger/Scavenger can be used in lieu of Strength quite effectively, if you really want those knives up more often.
Bladedancer
1. Intellect: Debated with this, as Discipline isn't a bad bet either. Ultimately, although Bladedancer's super is a little outclassed in tougher PvE content, it's the best killing tool in the BD's arsenal. You want this at every opportunity.
2. Discipline: Not a huge fan of Bladedancer grenades, personally. Their sticky could use a power boost, and arc bolt is temperamental with chaining. Still, ranged killing power is always to be prioritized, so they come in at number 2.
3. Strength: Minimal investment will be just fine for Fast Twitch, though Escape Artist fans might prefer a little more than that for leeway.
Okay that's it. You might notice I gave Strength short shrift; that's a theme with me. It's a fun stat for low-stress content, sometimes, but it's just not what you want for raids, harder strikes, etc. Melee scaling sucks - and we can't do anything about it. Utility on certain abilities makes it worth occasional investment on specific builds, but otherwise steer clear if the option is there.
The Tiers
Going to go armor slot by armor slot, and give my reasoning for each tiers: S, A, B, and C. As you might guess, S is the crème de la crème, A is everything but the cherry on top, B is perfectly functional - if outclassed, and C is situational with dubious benefit and little end-game preference. I'll be taking into account basic perk synergy, stat priority, and Exotic perk usefulness.
Helmets
Achylophage Symbiote (DISC): S
Reasoning: If you don't know by now, this is the best Gunslinger Exotic available. An extra GG shot is bonkers and great for any and all content. Ashes to Asset synergizes extremely well with the pure DISC roll and Scavenger to generate super faster, and even Fastball works for making those Tripmine placements pure precision.
Knucklehead Radar (STR): B
Reasoning: Strength is a peculiar stat for this helm, working with Light The Blade to give you your melee back sooner - meh. Sensor Pack is useful, but a definite crutch, and one that isn't necessary in the slightest if you're positionally aware. The only reason this doesn't get C is Inverse Shadow, which is a potent perk on any Exotic for generating super quicker. You'd better have a lot of intellect elsewhere to take advantage of it, though, or it's a C for sure.
Mask of the Third Man (INT): A
Reasoning: Bladedancer's best friend. Pure INT works well to get you your super faster, and the Exotic Perk is fantastic, freeing you up to avoid Encore and commit to Hungering Blade for sustained trash disposal. Increased melee attack speed is fun but not game-changing. Orbs give health is suddenly extremely useful for Swordbearers in Crota.
ATS/8 Arachnid (DISC/STR): B
Reasoning: Split-stat Exotic roll means higher potential cumulative roll, which is a nice boost. Ashes to Asset and Light the Blade work with your grenades to simultaneously generate melee/super. Again, both pair very well with Scavenger. The Exotic perk drags these down from A - being far outclassed - but is okay for niche situations in which you'd prefer to kill at an extreme range - e.g. sniper duty.
Gauntlets
Young Ahamkara's Spine (DISC): C
Reasoning: Ugh, even with DISC and Ashes to Asset, these get the C. Achylophage Symbiote has both of those, and a far better Exotic perk. 30 seconds for Tripmine detonation does nothing for you in PvE, and Special Weapon Loader is not enough to justify its use.
Don't Touch Me (DISC): A
Reasoning: Discipline roll is useful for both classes, though Intellect may have been better. Special Weapon Loader is nice too, but it's a glove standard. Inverse Shadow is a huge boon, unique to these Gauntlets alone, and apparently stacks with a helmet with Inverse Shadow to devastating effect. The unique perk is equally strong on a Bladedancer building for invisibility, and even of some use for Gunslingers who get in trouble.
Chestpieces
Lucky Rapsberry (INT): B
Reasoning: Heavy weapon ammo is redundant and borderline useless if you've got raid gear. Fusion rifle ammo gives you a boost for the Vex Mythoclast or your favorite alternative. The unique perk has its usefulness split between PvP and PvE, with the improved chaining helping with trash in PvE over the ability to respawn with grenade energy. Avoids the C for its pure INT roll working to get you more super from longer Arcbolt chains.
Crest of Alpha Lupi (STR): C
Reasoning: Nothing special in the ammo department. Exotic perk is cookie-cutter and available on all classes, useful only for content where you for some reason expect to die a lot. Some may find a couple extra orbs worth it, but as it's also a pure STR roll, there's really no perk synergy or anything great to be found with this Exotic. C for sure.
Boots
Radiant Dance Machines (STR): C
Reasoning: No doubt for this one, either. Strength seems like a slap in the face with the absolute garbage perk. Combine it with max agility and MIDA Multi-Tool for a laugh, then wonder why you thought being able to dodge better would be worth not wearing Achylophage or any other Exotic. Maybe if Heavy Ammo ever gets patched they won't be a complete joke. C all the way.
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1. Discipline: Sunsingers live and die by their grenades. Lacking a definitive “super”, the efficacy of Radiance is dependent on the Discipline stat for grenade cooldown while under the effect. There’s no point having Radiance up every 3 minutes if your Discipline prevents you from getting in those crucial 4 grenades. Discipline is your first priority.
2. Intellect: Essentially equal in priority to discipline, you need Intellect high enough so that you’ll have plenty of chances to use Radiance, but not so high that it takes away unnecessarily from Discipline. Radiance means more grenades, or more self-resurrections for safe retreat - if that’s your flavor - and therefore you need Intellect.
3. Strength: Not a terrible stat on Sunsingers by any means, it’s simply the odd-man out with Discipline and Intellect requiring so much investment. Really, if you wind up with a healthy amount of residual Strength, this is okay. Flame Shield is arguably the most useful melee for end-game content and survivability, and as such having it up more often does not burn you terribly (maybe them, though). If you’re forced to hit 32 with high Strength, it could be worse.
Voidwalker
1. Intellect: No doubts, here. Some of the best Voidwalker choices for Exotic rely on a high Intellect to be made absurdly powerful. Nova Bomb is a monster in PvE, and having it up as frequently as possible is exactly what you should aim for.
2. Discipline: A respectable second priority. Not nearly as important on Voidwalkers as Sunsingers, but still quite useful. Voidwalkers can be engineered to have grenades up quite frequently, through a combination of Energy Drain + Serpent’s Tail, and any number of enhancing perks in the skill tree like “The Hunger” and “Embrace the Void”. This leeway means you should never take Discipline over Intellect, all other variables constant.
3. Strength: Really, not awful on Voidwalkers, either. Played well, Energy Drain can be a powerful tool for Dregs/Thralls even in end-game content. Bloom and Soul Rip/Life Steal means your melee can function as patchwork Intellect or a useful means of health recovery. Don’t feel too bad if you end up with a nice amount of Strength.
Once again, Strength takes the brunt of my displeasure. However, on Warlocks it’s not too bad, honestly. Int/Disc still are the heavy-hitters, but you don’t have to fret as much about stat allocation on the lower end. Aim for a single piece of Strength gear - a split-stat chest or a pure Helmet/Gauntlets to wind up with a pretty decent stat profile.
The Tiers
Going to go armor slot by armor slot, and give my reasoning for each tiers: S, A, B, and C. As you might guess, S is the crème de la crème, A is everything but the cherry on top, B is perfectly functional - if outclassed, and C is situational with dubious benefit and little end-game preference. I'll be taking into account basic perk synergy, stat priority, and Exotic perk usefulness.
Helmets
Apotheosis Veil (DISC): B
Reasoning: Okay, let’s get this out of the way first: For Crota HM, this helmet is an S. Its perks are perfectly suited to longevity in the Crota fight and anywhere you need survivability in the permanent state of being underleveled. For other content, it’s kind of overkill. Two perks dedicated to health regeneration is a bit of a waste when you feel confident enough to not need it. However, the pure Discipline plus Serpent’s Tail makes this an excellent choice for grenade regeneration, so it’s not at all terrible.
Obsidian Mind (INT/STR): S
Reasoning: Here’s our first S. I’m pretty sure I’d be crucified if I said anything else, but luckily I’m all in with this one. Obsidian Mind is the definitive Exotic for Voidwalkers. Played properly, it makes Nova Bombs ubiquitous in all kinds of content. As split-stat Exotics can roll “higher”, you can get a fairly impressive stat total, and Inverse Shadow is one of the best all-around PvE perks, helping to get those Supers up even faster when you’re unable to do it through Nova Bomb alone. Energy Projection is okay - Quintessence Transfer would be even better. The bit of Strength is not bad. I recommend Soul Rip to combo with this helm.
Skull of Dire Ahamkara (INT): A
Reasoning: Debated giving this a B, but I feel that would be unfair. This helmet was excellent until Obsidian Mind came along. Xûr has never sold it, so hopefully you’ve been lucky enough to snag it from a Nightfall or VoG chest. Pure Intellect is excellent for Voidwalkers, and pairs very strongly with Quintessence Transfer (Axion Bolt/Scatter Grenade plus Bloom for maximum effect). Its signature perk provides impressive damage reduction for reckless Nova Bomb use, as well as “The Hunger”, helping immensely with grenade cooldowns, and freeing you up to select “Annihilate” or “Angry Magic”. With “Embrace the Void” and a respectable Discipline stat, you’ll have grenades up constantly, each of them contributing greatly to Super. Well-designed.
Light Beyond Nemesis (STR): C
Reasoning: This is probably an A/B in Crota HM, as well. For all other content though, it’s very fairly outclassed, therefore earns the Warlock C. Strength is a peculiar stat with very little synergy with its perkset and function. Snap Discharge can be a laugh for meleeing hordes of thralls, but it’s not worth having over Serpent’s Tail/Quintessence Transfer/Inverse Shadow. Steer clear of this in solo play, as its signature perk (Keeper of the Pack) and Infusion will be worthless to you. Faster revives and a little extra orb generation are more helpful with a group, but its situational use does not merit a higher tiering than this.
Gauntlets - Perk Constant: Special Weapon Loader
Claws of Ahamkara (DISC/STR): B
Reasoning: Strangely, these would probably be a C if it weren’t for a known visual bug/error. These gauntlets actually have “Serpent’s Tail” and not Snap Discharge as indicated, which is much more preferable given the DISC/STR roll and the need to balance away from melee. Two Flame Shields (yes, you can use one before the other expires) and two Energy Drains is a surprisingly useful boon in lots of content. Sunsinger’s can stay in the fray longer, while generating a little grenade energy, and Voidwalkers can get extra Life Steal and Soul Rip while doubling the potential time “Energy Drain” is up, as Serpent's Tail pairs beautifully with extra Energy Drain charges. Split-stat status can grant excess STR/DIC, but ultimately this is a melee-heavy pair of Gauntlets. When you aren’t meleeing, it’s very outclassed.
EDIT: Sunbreakers (INT): B (Previously A)
Reasoning: I have a bit of a soft spot for these; for me they're probably closer to a A. Pure Intellect is pretty great for Sunsingers, although Discipline would probably suit them better. Serpent’s Tail is great on any build, helping to give you Solar Grenades quicker. Helium Cycle is the make-or-break perk here though. It doubles the duration on your Solar Grenades, giving a theoretical 100% boost to DPS, but more importantly allows you to lock down the field in a glorious garden of Solar devastation. Excellent, fun perk for those who excel with Solar Grenades. If you don’t, your mileage may vary. Unfortunately, they force you to use Solar Grenades, when certain grenades are far superior for different situations.
Chestpieces
Voidfang Vestments (STR): C
Reasoning: Ho-hum. You won’t be wiping enough to take advantage of full grenade energy on respawn. Hand Cannon ammo is nice for those who wield them, as is general Special Weapon ammo, but this means you’re left with just pure Strength and a single extra Axion Bolt seeker to make this “Exotic” in PvE. There’s no perk synergy here, just a ton of Strength, detracting from an ideal Voidwalker build if you have even a smidgen on another piece of armor. I don’t recommend it.
Starfire Protocol (INT): B
Reasoning: Fusion Rifle + Heavy Weapon Ammo isn’t great. Heavy Ammo is redundant on any piece of armor besides boots (you need Raid boots to get to 32; Raid boots come standard with +Heavy Ammo). This leaves us with an additional Fusion Grenade and a monster pure Intellect stat. The Intellect is greatly appreciated, but the Fusion Grenade is not terribly useful. It frees up your last row for Angel of Light or Touch of Flame, the latter being a little more appealing with Viking Funeral (in lieu of Radiant Will), but also restricts you to Fusion Grenades. If you don’t ever want to use Fusion Grenades - they are great - stay away from this one.
Heart of the Praxic Fire (DISC): S
Reasoning: Someone got a Perfect 170 Discipline HotPF in the Nightfall I ran last night to my 11 Ascendant Energies, so i’m still stinging from that. Oh well, this thing is S-tier all the way. It shares the Fusion + Heavy ammo combo of Starfire Protocol, but leaps ahead of it by miles with its signature perk “Praise the Sun”. As long as you have heavy Intellect investment elsewhere, and constantly use Radiance, you will light up the battlefield with your grenade of choice. PtS takes grenade cooldowns to extreme levels, meaning absurd amounts of Boss DPS/trash clearance/area denial. Its pure discipline roll is perfect for Sunsingers, giving you a chance to easily maximize your DISC stat for the ultimate cooldown during Radiance. Wear Solaire’s gear with pride - it’s a true Exotic.
Boots
N/A
Come on, Bungie. Give us some Fancy Footwear.
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1. Discipline: Strikers have the best PvE grenades in the game, bar none. Flashbang is an extremely potent equalizer in the right hands, and both Lightning Grenade and Pulse Grenade can be used to dizzying effect as simultaneous Crowd Control and DPS. Perks can be geared towards grenade longevity, and they're the ultimate tool in making a Titan a gamechanger on the PvE battlefield. You want these up constantly.
2. Intellect: Although Fist of Havoc's range is limited, it does massive damage and can be perk'd to also provide emergency CC; there's a reason they call it Fist of Panic. It is a fairly dangerous proposition in end-game content - exposing you to the fire and melee reach of high level enemies - and darn near useless against any bosses with gimpy melee insta-kills, so it is not nearly as desirable as grenades. Still, it's way better than...
3. Strength: For a class and meme subculture that has gravitated around "Punching", Striker Titans have objectively the worst melee in the game. Abysmal range, sincerely confusing and underwhelming perks, and an unforgiving special melee proc add up to Strength being a dump stat for an effective Titan. It has a bit of value in very low-stress content, specifically solo play, as even the scaling on 3-man Roc Strikes prevents a one-hit melee kill on anything over thrall/dreg level foes. It is simply not practical to weaken a vandal to snag your "Amplify" bonus - Overload and Discharge are gimmicks at best, downright stupid bad at worst.
Defender
1. Intellect: The Ward of Dawn is the Defender's best tool to justify the class selection. The majority of his or her perks are molded around making the bubble an unpredictable and versatile tool against the Darkness. Uptime, cooldown, buffs - all useless if you don't get that Bubble up early and often. Pad this stat as best as you can to take advantage of your Defending prowess.
2. (3) Discipline: Although the Defender can't match the raw offensive power of the Striker's grenade set, he is no slouch here. Magnetic grenades are excellent stickies with great single-target damage. Suppressor grenades do passable AOE damage while limiting the abilities of nasty enemies like Knights and Wizards. Spike grenades pale in comparison a bit to Lightning grenades, but can be effective for moderate damage and CC. A healthy amount of discipline will keep your enemies off guard. Unfortunately, the Defender's perkset does not seem to encourage grenade use, so I could also see this stat earning last place for priority on certain builds.
3. (2) Strength: Not nearly as bad for Defenders as Strikers, Strength is a bit more usable here. Disintegrate benefits from a healthy perk selection and interesting buffs. War Machine grants insane reload and ADS speeds, in addition to the basic overshield, and Unbreakable ensures that shield holds for the duration of the buff. Gift of Light can be useful with support groups to get orbs galore from a group of thrall. What saves this stat is the Defender's unique ability to not expend his or her special melee on a single strike. Although Disintegrate requires a kill to proc, it is impossible to waste it, putting it leaps and bounds ahead of Striker's finnicky punch. It is quite useful in low-to-medium stress content, and even finds a place in end-game, while falling a tad short of the bar set by Sunsinger's Flame Shield.
Strength takes a collective last place for Titans, which just shows how underpowered a stat it ultimately is in Destiny. Still, Defenders should not feel bad with a healthy amount of Strength, while Strikers should do everything in their power to make sure it receives no special attention.
The Tiers
Going to go armor slot by armor slot, and give my reasoning for each tiers: S, A, B, and C. As you might guess, S is the crème de la crème, A is everything but the cherry on top, B is perfectly functional - if outclassed, and C is situational with dubious benefit and little end-game preference. I'll be taking into account basic perk synergy, stat priority, and Exotic perk usefulness.
Helmets
An Insurmountable Skullfort (DISC): B
Reasoning: It has good use in Crota HM, as transfusion can be used with a careful melee on a thrall to reliably recover health, and Infusion takes advantage of others' orbs - but you should be running Defender there anyway. Fortunately, Infusion would work when playing Defender, as well. Impact Induction is excellent with its Discipline, working to speed along grenade recovery. Its signature perk is not bad, freeing you to select the useful Aftershocks or underwhelming Headstrong, but its ultimate melee-centric focus hurts it a bit for Nightfalls and non HM Crota-CP raids. At least Shoulder Charge procs Transfusion!
Helm of Inmost Light (STR): C
Reasoning: Debated going B for this, and could possibly be talked into it, but the rationale is more important than the letter. Rain Blows is fun for the Punchbro Lyfe, but consumes a valuable Helmet perkslot. Invigoration is useless for solo content, and even with an orb-happy group only works to give you your melee back - another waste of a perkslot. The pure Strength roll also only works to your melee's benefit. It's clear this helmet was designed for the punch-happy titan, but unfortunately such a titan is outgunned in that role in almost all content. The Exotic perk is fun, allowing for perk flexibility in two more rows, but ultimately only allows safer Super use while having no synergy with its melee-heavy perkset. I have to go with a "C" for PvE.
The Glasshouse (INT): A
Reasoning: One half of the stellar Defender helm duo, The Glasshouse adds another useful talent to the myriad available for the Defender to buff his or her WoD. The pure Intellect roll is exactly what is called for here, offering a healthy CD bonus to help those WoD recharge times. Quintessence Transfer is excellent as well, as it grants increased Super from Grenade kills to also speed along that sweet WoD cooldown. Its Exotic Perk can be supremely useful with a coordinated fireteam. Most evidence reports a 50% increase in Blessing/Weapons of Light uptime, which means increased survivability/DPS from the lot of you for the duration. Its use is a bit gimped in solo play, where the bonus can't compound with multiple users, but this is hardly a mark against it. Atheon Beware.
Helm of Saint-14 (INT): S
Reasoning: The iconic senator's plume says this helmet means business - and boy does it. Everything about this Exotic is perfectly aligned. The INT roll, like the Glasshouse, is necessary to drive you quicker and quicker to your bubble. The Exotic perk Starless Night is the real selling point here though. Any enemy that enters the bubble is completely incapacitated. This effect can be applied an unlimited amount of times, and lasts for a very respectable duration, making the WoD into a potent offensive CC tool and allowing the Titan Pawnch to finally shine. Rain Blows - otherwise generally outclassed - does just fine here, also allowing for quicker activation of Disintegrate's shield and maximum Thunderdome throwdown damage. Inverse Shadow is just an unfair cherry on top - the cream of the crop for Helmet perks landing on an already overpowered beauty. The Bubble loses a little efficacy in certain boss fights, but Saint-14 still earns the S.
Gauntlets
No Backup Plans (STR): C
Reasoning: The "Glasshouse" of Melee, its tier suffers predictably. It's a load of fun in low-stress content, especially solo play, where Disintegrate uptime can be almost constant with a high enough Strength and Relentless. Special Weapon Loader ain't bad for Shotgun builds and pairs well with an overshield for in-your-face death. Rain blows works well with Gift of Light, but you might otherwise prefer Impact Induction. Unfortunately, anywhere where melee is impractical, so too is this Exotic.
Ruin Wings (STR): A
Reasoning: First off, if these worked consistently and predictably, they'd earn an S. But anyone who uses them knows this is quite often not the case. There is anecdotal evidence that they can spawn more heavy for other fireteam members, but this is difficult to prove and therefore unreliable and unworthy of stating as fact. Pure Strength is unfortunate, though Impact Induction is a welcome boon to increase your overall armament potency. Special Weapon Loader is typical par for the Exotic Gauntlets course, but its the Exotic Perk here that makes it. Free Surplus on all Heavy Weapons is a godsend when it works, trivializing any and all content. As Heavy Ammo is no longer bugged, it's even more valuable in Crota's End, etc. "Dropping more frequently" is peculiar and possibly occasionally bugged, but there's no doubt that when it's feeling generous, this is an S-tier exotic all the way. Don't bite my head off.
Chestpieces
The Armamentarium (DISC): S
Reasoning: Possessing the ability to grant the most of any given stat, a pure Discipline chestpiece is perfect for Striker and Defender Titans alike. Two grenades is absolutely bananas, especially for Strikers, and leaves you able to handle any and all PvE situations. The absurd Discipline will make sure you have them up as often as possible, and the extra Special and Heavy ammo ensures you'll never stop firing in between grenades. You can even swap out your Crota's End boots for Iron Banner now! I can't oversell this exotic. We were spoiled with it a lot early on, and some people are only now starting to realize its true potential. Let the Chest Engram roulette roll.
Crest of Alpha Lupi (INT): B
Reasoning: The first of the "Keeper of the Pack" exotics to earn higher than a C. The massive pure Intellect roll likely saves it from the doldrums of C territory, being infinitely preferable to Strength in its Warlock and Hunter cousins. However, this chestpiece is actually not entirely worthless regardless. Its niche lies in a Defender's multitude of orb-spawning abilities. For a fireteam that wants them, boy can it deliver: Popping WoD grants 3 instead of 2; Gift of Light can grant 2 on a melee kill; 3 to 4 for damaging WoD with Gift of the Void; 1 to 2 for chance Heavy kills with Iron Harvest - are you starting to see where i'm going with this? Still, for solo play its only use is ammo and Intellect, and if you're in a PuG, you're going to have a hard time ensuring its unique role is valuable to justify its use over Armamentarium/Saint-14.
Greaves
MK. 44 Stand Asides (STR): C-
Reasoning: C- Tongue-in-cheek aside, these are the most worthless exotics ever invented for PvE. They grant bonus Heavy Ammo, but so do the raid boots. They have a pure Strength roll, which is awful unless you're a Defender...where you don't have Shoulder Charge. Their signature perk should have never made it past the Destiny drawing board, and the guy who green-lit the idea should be condemned to the Sisyphean toil of capturing point A only to see his team lose indefinitely. They give you 3 extra seconds in which to use Shoulder Charge. Yes, you can cover 3 more seconds of ground, or run in a circle for 3 more seconds of sublime panic before throwing your weak shoulder or knee into a Major and promptly dying to Lightswitch. If you use these in PvE, I sure hope it's because you have no other Exotic options.
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That guy massively downplays the "Enhanced Axion Bolt" perk of Voidfang. It creates a third seeker, effectively increasing it's damage potential by 50%. And when paired with Bloom, that's an extra chance to cause a hilarious chain reaction. It is odd that a grenade-based Exotic would give a bonus to Strength, but I also think people underrate that attribute for Warlocks. Having quicker access to Life Steal/Soul Rip for Voidwalker or Flame Shield for Sunbros is wonderful.
That said, I do rock HotPF when I'm Sunbroing. That shit really IS top tier. But in PVP while Voidwalking? You best believe I'm going Voidfang.
EDIT: And Starfire Protocol is dumb dumb dumbo armor for dumbos.
That guy massively downplays the "Enhanced Axion Bolt" perk of Voidfang. It creates a third seeker, effectively increasing it's damage potential by 50%. And when paired with Bloom, that's an extra chance to cause a hilarious chain reaction. It is odd that a grenade-based Exotic would give a bonus to Strength, but I also think people underrate that attribute for Warlocks. Having quicker access to Life Steal/Soul Rip for Voidwalker or Flame Shield for Sunbros is wonderful.
That said, I do rock HotPF when I'm Sunbroing. That shit really IS top tier. But in PVP while Voidwalking? You best believe I'm going Voidfang.
EDIT: And Starfire Protocol is dumb dumb dumbo armor for dumbos.
Voidfang isn't too shabby for sunsinger as well. Spawn with two fusion grenades every time - yes please.
... Aren't the FWC shaders the ones that drop randomly in the crucible?
*snip*
New Monarchy shaders are named after (surprise, surprise) monarchs/leaders/deities:
Amalthea
Cleopatra AK
Nefertiti AK
Themisto
*snip*
It's actually interesting to note that all the NM shaders are named after women. Who else do we know in Destinyland that is a female monarch? New Monarchy secretly trying to backdoor the Queen of the Reef into control of the Tower?
... Aren't the FWC shaders the ones that drop randomly in the crucible?
*snip*
New Monarchy shaders are named after (surprise, surprise) monarchs/leaders/deities:
Amalthea
Cleopatra AK
Nefertiti AK
Themisto
*snip*
It's actually interesting to note that all the NM shaders are named after women. Who else do we know in Destinyland that is a female monarch? New Monarchy secretly trying to backdoor the Queen of the Reef into control of the Tower?
Bro.
... A worthwhile endeavor, I'm considering switching to New Monarchy now.
This isn't LFG, we don't give a shit what your gear or stats are.
My raid team might be oversubscribed so I'll possibly be free to take you through a nightfall and weekly heroic. We may need another person on the Nightfall, just to be on the safe side.
This isn't LFG, we don't give a shit what your gear or stats are.
My raid team might be oversubscribed so I'll possibly be free to take you through a nightfall and weekly heroic. We may need another person on the Nightfall, just to be on the safe side.
I've never actually done a Nightfall. This week's is arc, right? Murmur and an arc machine gun should suffice, right?
PSN/XBL/Nintendo/Origin/Steam: Nightslyr 3DS: 1607-1682-2948 Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
This isn't LFG, we don't give a shit what your gear or stats are.
My raid team might be oversubscribed so I'll possibly be free to take you through a nightfall and weekly heroic. We may need another person on the Nightfall, just to be on the safe side.
I've never actually done a Nightfall. This week's is arc, right? Murmur and an arc machine gun should suffice, right?
Yup. I'll be doing most of the heavy lifting with my Efrideet's Spear, we'll play conservative.
I'm still sitting at 27 and doing the purple armor hunt. If anyone's interested in letting me tag along for some of the raids/strikes/whatever, just holler in-game. I'll be on for the next couple hours.
I'm still sitting at 27 and doing the purple armor hunt. If anyone's interested in letting me tag along for some of the raids/strikes/whatever, just holler in-game. I'll be on for the next couple hours.
Come along with me and Nightslyr on a Nightfall?
So long as you guys stay alive to revive me, I think I've got it mostly covered DPS wise.
I'd like to finish up Crota, sometime before reset, I'm at the big man himself, just shoot me a message if you want to help.
I'd like to give it a go and will probably be available in about 2 hours if you're still at it. I was/am Gaderen from last night
I just started spring break, so I'm likely to be up for a while. I think you might have left the party before I had a chance to shoot a friend invite. You're the only one so far which, uh, might make it just slightly more difficult...
Just sat down to do some cleaning out on the Xbox side and Bungie.net is being weird so I'm gonna take a break. People I booted last night are still in, and when I boot them, the # of members goes even lower, so I'm hoping Bungie.net isn't just booting the wrong people. Let me know if that happens to you (I don't think it actually messed up in that way).
Anyway, we now have openings in PA Prime on both PS and Xbox.
I'm still sitting at 27 and doing the purple armor hunt. If anyone's interested in letting me tag along for some of the raids/strikes/whatever, just holler in-game. I'll be on for the next couple hours.
Come along with me and Nightslyr on a Nightfall?
So long as you guys stay alive to revive me, I think I've got it mostly covered DPS wise.
I won't be on until some time after 10:00 Eastern. Will the Nightfall count as a strike? I have the Bad Juju and another exotic that need strike runs.
Also, with my disability, I can't wear my headset tonight. I'll be playing from bed, and I can't raise my arms up to my head. I'll be able to hear instructions, however.
I do have the wireless PS4 headset. I'd like to use it this weekend with peeps. Likely Sunday.
Nightslyr on
PSN/XBL/Nintendo/Origin/Steam: Nightslyr 3DS: 1607-1682-2948 Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
I'm still sitting at 27 and doing the purple armor hunt. If anyone's interested in letting me tag along for some of the raids/strikes/whatever, just holler in-game. I'll be on for the next couple hours.
Come along with me and Nightslyr on a Nightfall?
So long as you guys stay alive to revive me, I think I've got it mostly covered DPS wise.
I won't be on until some time after 10:00 Eastern. Will the Nightfall count as a strike? I have the Bad Juju and another exotic that need strike runs.
Also, with my disability, I can't wear my headset tonight. I'll be playing from bed, and I can't raise my arms up to my head. I'll be able to hear instructions, however.
I do have the wireless PS4 headset. I'd like to use it this weekend with peeps. Likely Sunday.
Even better, the Nightfall counts as three strikes (and the Weekly Heroic as two)
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Well that checks out, then.
XBL: Sans Gravitas, Steam, Destiny, Twitch
Destiny Raid Groups: Team NATBurn, Team Fourth Meal (Disbanded)
If you know a friendly Hunter, you can ask him/her to solo the Abyss section of HM Crota for a chance at the Arc Pulse Rifle. =P
I'm 0 for 2 trying to get one for a friend from work now.
Edit: Other classes can solo that encounter, but I only do it on my Hunter. Required lv30+ to zone into the raid on hard-mode.
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
I'm 0 for 3 on getting my friend an Oversoul Edict, but he got Willbreaker Gloves with perfect stats, Int/Disc and chance to drop orbs with precision kills.
Pretty good reward for being dead and watching me solo... And forgetting to equip my Dont Touch Me's and actually first finding out about that afterwards... I (single) jumped and bodysurfed the thralls for a couple seconds until the bridge spawned, very tense.
I'm in tonight for whatever you peoples are interested in doing.
Do we still need a 6th since @Brogey will be out tonight, or did @jefe414 say he had a buddy to fill in?
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
I'm texting him now to double check.
EDIT: He's a loser and can't make it due to "not sure when I'm getting out of work". I'll check with another one.
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
It's actually interesting to note that all the NM shaders are named after women. Who else do we know in Destinyland that is a female monarch? New Monarchy secretly trying to backdoor the Queen of the Reef into control of the Tower?
XBL: Sans Gravitas, Steam, Destiny, Twitch
Destiny Raid Groups: Team NATBurn, Team Fourth Meal (Disbanded)
He knew you would say that, and devoted 270 words to explaining why! YOU INGRATES. :P
...send him the link to the video.
in what world is running around the entire map in circles "camping"
oh, pubs. never change
Call of Duty.
I once got a message from a dude who said he was hoping I would die from cancer because I killed him a couple of times.
Hunter:
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
Warlock:
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
Titan:
(Destiny) Doot Doot, Shoot Brutes for New Boots, Woot Woot for Rad Suits and Phat Loots
That said, I do rock HotPF when I'm Sunbroing. That shit really IS top tier. But in PVP while Voidwalking? You best believe I'm going Voidfang.
EDIT: And Starfire Protocol is dumb dumb dumbo armor for dumbos.
XBL: Sans Gravitas, Steam, Destiny, Twitch
Destiny Raid Groups: Team NATBurn, Team Fourth Meal (Disbanded)
PvP you are probably right
Voidfang isn't too shabby for sunsinger as well. Spawn with two fusion grenades every time - yes please.
Bro.
Also,
Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
... A worthwhile endeavor, I'm considering switching to New Monarchy now.
This isn't LFG, we don't give a shit what your gear or stats are.
My raid team might be oversubscribed so I'll possibly be free to take you through a nightfall and weekly heroic. We may need another person on the Nightfall, just to be on the safe side.
That's what she said
I've never actually done a Nightfall. This week's is arc, right? Murmur and an arc machine gun should suffice, right?
Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
XBL: Sans Gravitas, Steam, Destiny, Twitch
Destiny Raid Groups: Team NATBurn, Team Fourth Meal (Disbanded)
I'd like to give it a go and will probably be available in about 2 hours if you're still at it. I was/am Gaderen from last night
https://medium.com/@alascii
Yup. I'll be doing most of the heavy lifting with my Efrideet's Spear, we'll play conservative.
Come along with me and Nightslyr on a Nightfall?
So long as you guys stay alive to revive me, I think I've got it mostly covered DPS wise.
I just started spring break, so I'm likely to be up for a while. I think you might have left the party before I had a chance to shoot a friend invite. You're the only one so far which, uh, might make it just slightly more difficult...
Anyway, we now have openings in PA Prime on both PS and Xbox.
I won't be on until some time after 10:00 Eastern. Will the Nightfall count as a strike? I have the Bad Juju and another exotic that need strike runs.
Also, with my disability, I can't wear my headset tonight. I'll be playing from bed, and I can't raise my arms up to my head. I'll be able to hear instructions, however.
I do have the wireless PS4 headset. I'd like to use it this weekend with peeps. Likely Sunday.
Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia
Even better, the Nightfall counts as three strikes (and the Weekly Heroic as two)
XBL: Sans Gravitas, Steam, Destiny, Twitch
Destiny Raid Groups: Team NATBurn, Team Fourth Meal (Disbanded)
Switch: SW-3515-0057-3813 FF XIV: Q'vehn Tia