Arrow-Verse: DC on TV (and Legends of Tomorrow)

RedTide

Catching up on Supergirl in the tradition of background Netflix, later season 4 spoilers:

I really like the payoff for the Agent Liberty storyline, vis a vis how he's basically a Ben Shapiro stand in. He is-

1.) Funded by a cynical billionaire who doesn't give a shit about his cause except to further his own goals

2.) He is also literally a stupid persons idea of what a smart person sounds like - It's not Lex or Eve who picks him to be elevated, it's fucking Otis.

Just really enjoyed the payoff on that so far.

lwt1973

https://twitter.com/caitylotz/status/1151535170270351360

LoT gets some good publicity.

skeldare

So a LOT of old actors are returning for the Crisis on Infinite Earths crossover.

WB is going all out for their upcoming Arrowverse Crisis On Infinite Earths event as Tom Welling and Linda Carter are in talks to return.

A source at Comic-Con has filled me in on details regarding the crossover, which I'll say is bigger than anyone thought.

Tom Welling, of course, is known for Smallville and will reprise his character, with Lynda Carter having played the '70s Wonder Woman. Carter actually appeared in episodes of Supergirl, but she will be back as Wonder Woman.

Comic-Con also saw it announced that Brandon Routh will suit up as the Kingdom Come Superman side by side the Tyler Hoechlin Man of Steel.

Burt Ward, the '66 Robin from the Batman series, was also announced at Comic-Con to be appearing in Crisis on Infinite Earths, which is a comic book story that involves multiple Earths and universes, something the Arrowverse has already touched upon but is expanding for the Crisis event series.

cloudeagle

Crisis on Infinite Earths is set to become even more bananas.

It was just confirmed that Black Lightning characters will get involved, as well as an old Bruce Wayne played by the best Bruce Wayne, Kevin Conroy.

autono-wally, erotibot300

cloudeagle wrote: »

Crisis on Infinite Earths is set to become even more bananas.

It was just confirmed that Black Lightning characters will get involved, as well as an old Bruce Wayne played by the best Bruce Wayne, Kevin Conroy.

WHAT THE FUCK

Fencingsax

I leave you kids alone for... many seasons, and you go all crazy!

Gnizmo

How many episodes is Crisis supposed to take up? At this point it feels like we are going to have a lot of background characters which is cool and disappointing on the same breath.

Zonugal

Gnizmo wrote: »

How many episodes is Crisis supposed to take up? At this point it feels like we are going to have a lot of background characters which is cool and disappointing on the same breath.

It's five episodes, with three in December and two in January.

see317

Zonugal wrote: »

Gnizmo wrote: »

How many episodes is Crisis supposed to take up? At this point it feels like we are going to have a lot of background characters which is cool and disappointing on the same breath.

It's five episodes, with three in December and two in January.

Spanning two decades.

Brainiac 8

https://deadline.com/2019/09/tom-welling-reprise-smallville-clark-kent-role-arrowverse-crossover-the-cw-1202738738/

It's official, Tom Welling in Crisis babyyyyyyyyyy!

Kyougu

What's honestly super cool is that he's actually playing Smallville's Clark Kent. Hopefully they can get Erica Durance, I always like her as Lois.

Snicketysnick

Kyougu wrote: »

What's honestly super cool is that he's actually playing Smallville's Clark Kent. Hopefully they can get Erica Durance, I always like her as Lois.

She's already on Supergirl as Kara's mum

Brainiac 8

I don't think that means much in this crossover. Especially since Routh is playing both the Atom and Kingdom Come Superman.

I really hope this means Welling, Durance, and Rosenbaum make an appearance.

Also Hartley. I need to see him and Amell together just once before he hangs up his quiver.

Snicketysnick

Good point, I'd forgotten about double dipping on Routh

Sorce

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

I don't think that means much in this crossover. Especially since Routh is playing both the Atom and Kingdom Come Superman.

I really hope this means Welling, Durance, and Rosenbaum make an appearance.

Also Hartley. I need to see him and Amell together just once before he hangs up his quiver.

Man, back in the day I totally wanted a flashback episode with Hartley and Allison playing a young Robert and Moira. That would have been great.

Ah well.

Brainiac 8

https://deadline.com/2019/09/erica-durance-reprise-smallville-lois-lane-role-arrowverse-crossover-the-cw-1202739723/

And Bam! We have Durance, one of the best Lois Lanes also making her return during Crisis.

There is no way we don't get Rosenbaum back now.

klemming

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

There is no way we don't get Rosenbaum back now.

Nope:

https://twitter.com/michaelrosenbum/status/1176526751461019648

With such elaborate plans, I can't really blame him.

Brainiac 8

Even though I know what he said I'm still going to hold out hope that he changes his mind.

😢

Brainiac 8

Brainiac 8

https://tvline.com/2019/09/26/birds-of-prey-ashley-scott-arrowverse-crossover-huntress/

Add one more deep dive to the cast list.

skeldare

https://twitter.com/thecw_pr/status/1177629026925469696

McFodder

He was a much better Superman than the movie he was in deserved.

skeldare

https://twitter.com/maddow/status/1180230161041690634

Sorce

Oh boy, I can't wait to get to the episode where

she's murdered in cold blood by David Cain to prove that Batman is a dumb fuck to ignore his family when he needs them the most.

Or Batwoman in this case, I guess.

skeldare

Superman & Lois Series in Development at The CW, Starring Tyler Hoechlin and Elizabeth Tulloch

https://tvline.com/2019/10/28/superman-lois-lane-series-in-development-the-cw/

Terrendos

So at some point the CW is just going to be the Arrowverse channel, huh?

autono-wally, erotibot300

Terrendos wrote: »

So at some point the CW is just going to be the Arrowverse channel, huh?

Improvement

Sorce

Ugh.

Brainiac 8

Yaaaaaaay! I am so ready for a new Supes show. It's been too long!

lwt1973

Brainiac 8 wrote: »

Yaaaaaaay! I am so ready for a new Supes show. It's been too long!

I liked their interactions on the show. I hope they can continue the chemistry on a weekly basis.

And they name the kid Jon and that they age him up to 12 quickly and that the show morphs into Jon and Batman's son Damien's wacky hi-jinks every week.

Tox

Crisis is coming! ....as you will have been constantly reminded, even moreso on Flash than on Arrow, whose main plot is much more directly related!
Honestly I'm excited for Crisis, but it feels a bit like Infinity War. They've been hyping it so much that, like, once this is over, I may just take a step back from the whole thing for a while. If Supergirl doesn't get dramatically better on the back half, we'll probably drop it. Batwoman is a little rough but I always assume the first season of a show will be a little rough. Arrow is killing it! And Flash is ... fine? Like, it's a little heavy on the angst right now but I feel like they always do that in the first half of the season. I dunno but hopefully Legends will continue to be amazing (although I'm sure we're going to see another cast rotation soon).

Dracomicron

I haven't been watching Flash for the past couple years, and Arrow only when it comes out on Netflix (though I'm a season behind now I think), though I'll watch their Crisis episodes. Black Lightning this season is interesting, but extremely perplexing (like, is Freeland even in the United States? How are they threatened militarily by Russians?). Supergirl's heart is in the right place as always, and they have some extremely affecting moments, but the plot runs on pure stupidity.

Batwoman reminds me of 1st season Arrow, where the protagonist wasn't meant to be heroic, really. She's attending to her own agenda, this time while leeching off of a different hero's mythos instead of creating a new one like Ollie did. Every time she lets a bad guy escape, I tell myself that she's not actually that interested in doing the right thing; she's just crossing things off a list.

Sorce

Yeah, Supergirl is running purely on the backs of the actors, because the plots this season so far have been pretty bad.

Arrow has been a delight; and this is coming from someone that only tuned in because it's their final season, and a shortened one at that. S8 is absolutely just a farewell tour with anyone that has ever made a appearance plus some Crisis build-up. It's working really well, though.

SniperGuy

KEVIN CONROOOOOOOOY

I'm quite liking this season of Arrow, and enjoying Flash although the bad guy seems a little weird. All the crisis buildup is great.

Brainiac 8

That is my Clark Kent.

jclast

Whelp, I guess it's time for me to start watching Black Lightning.

Dracomicron

jclast wrote: »

Whelp, I guess it's time for me to start watching Black Lightning.

The first season especially is one of the better things Berlanti has done.

Brainiac 8

I know hating on Flash is the more popular thing to do, but in my opinion, I quite enjoyed last season. Cicada was horrible as a villain but the season had a ton of great stuff that wasn't Cicada centric. I also enjoyed seeing Alicia from Smallville show up on Cicada's adult daughter. Also, Nora was quite aces and I am sad she is gone.

With that said: I have a digital code for season 5 of Flash to give away to someone. If you want it, just post your favorite part or scene of last season, and I'll choose a winner by the end of the day.

SniperGuy

First Ep of Crisis is out (Supergirl) and it was good imo! A lot of setup, felt a little rushed in places, but I am excited to see what comes next. Also very shocked at

killing Ollie so quickly. That can't be it, right? Gotta have some shenanigans in there where those injuries aren't from that fight on the tower but from something else, right?

Devlin_Dragonus

SniperGuy wrote: »

First Ep of Crisis is out (Supergirl) and it was good imo! A lot of setup, felt a little rushed in places, but I am excited to see what comes next. Also very shocked at

killing Ollie so quickly. That can't be it, right? Gotta have some shenanigans in there where those injuries aren't from that fight on the tower but from something else, right?

I agree and about that last bit

According to the show runner/EP he said that going into the Fall 2019 season they have kind of written themselves into a corner with Oliver and to help elevate the tension and surprise they decided to take him out early instead of at the 5th hour.