This week’s Curtis has features Curtis’s dad going on and on about this collection of music “I grew up with” as performed by extremely non-specific “legendary” artists, who, we learn today, are not rappers. One assumes that these legendary artists are never named so that this plotline can be trotted out every few years while keeping Greg the same age, but the whole thing already seems on the edge of believability: with a couple of pre-teen kids and a wife not notably younger than him, it seems unrealistic to have Greg be much older than his mid-40s, which would mean he hit his musical stride right as hip-hop was starting to enter the musical mainstream. Ten years from now, it will be actively strange if he grew up not listening to rap, although who knows, maybe it’ll be just as strange if Curtis is listening to it.
See, Curtis? Even Pluggers is admitting that most people in the plugger demographic in 2015 were filthy hippies in their youth. Just admit that Curtis’s dad likes old-school rap already.
Keep in mind we're only getting the parent's side of the one ring story, often there is more to the story in these that the parents leave out because it's their special snowflake.
A child threatened another child. The school has a policy about making threats. If the threat was about actual physical violence it would have been ignored by the national media but because the kid had claimed he had a ring that would turn the other child invisible it has been talked about for 3 days now.
How is "I have a magic ring that will turn you invisible" a threat much less a terroristic threat?
Keep in mind we're only getting the parent's side of the one ring story, often there is more to the story in these that the parents leave out because it's their special snowflake.
A child threatened another child. The school has a policy about making threats. If the threat was about actual physical violence it would have been ignored by the national media but because the kid had claimed he had a ring that would turn the other child invisible it has been talked about for 3 days now.
How is "I have a magic ring that will turn you invisible" a threat much less a terroristic threat?
I'm pretty sure the kid's probably been bullying a bit and that provoked such a strong reaction from the kid being bullied that they decided to suspend the kid.
He's probably had warning in the past about it.
That being said, it dosen't take away from the fact that this whole thing is HILARIOUS.
Keep in mind we're only getting the parent's side of the one ring story, often there is more to the story in these that the parents leave out because it's their special snowflake.
A child threatened another child. The school has a policy about making threats. If the threat was about actual physical violence it would have been ignored by the national media but because the kid had claimed he had a ring that would turn the other child invisible it has been talked about for 3 days now.
How is "I have a magic ring that will turn you invisible" a threat much less a terroristic threat?
I'm pretty sure the kid's probably been bullying a bit and that provoked such a strong reaction from the kid being bullied that they decided to suspend the kid.
He's probably had warning in the past about it.
That being said, it dosen't take away from the fact that this whole thing is HILARIOUS.
Keep in mind we're only getting the parent's side of the one ring story, often there is more to the story in these that the parents leave out because it's their special snowflake.
A child threatened another child. The school has a policy about making threats. If the threat was about actual physical violence it would have been ignored by the national media but because the kid had claimed he had a ring that would turn the other child invisible it has been talked about for 3 days now.
How is "I have a magic ring that will turn you invisible" a threat much less a terroristic threat?
I'm pretty sure the kid's probably been bullying a bit and that provoked such a strong reaction from the kid being bullied that they decided to suspend the kid.
He's probably had warning in the past about it.
That being said, it dosen't take away from the fact that this whole thing is HILARIOUS.
you're assuming an AWFUL lot here
I no I'm pulling all of that directly out of my ass.
It is the only way I can make sense of the situation, for if this was a first time offense with the kid having no previous history of bullying then the school is literally completly insane and there is nothing more to talk about.
More likely this kid saw a movie took his moms weddnig ring and was playing a game somebody took seriously.
Schools do this because itll get press and " look tough" on bullying but still not actually do anything against actual bullies
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edited February 2015
But principal Roxanne Greer didn’t see the charm in Aiden’s supernatural pretending and issued disciplinary action. The father says Greer told him that threats to another child’s safety would not be tolerated, even if they were make believe.
Sounds like a threat was involved in the ring story. Also, teachers don't stand around listening for that stuff nor do they care typically unless there is a fairly aggressive tone or a student approaches them with the concern. Principles are brought into the picture unless teacher and the student who was thratened's parent are pushing for action.
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Liability-wise, if a student claims they were threatened by another student and reports that to a teacher the teacher has to report it to the principle by federal law (and the principal has to take some reasonable action to verify and address it). While the media focuses on the silly part of this, don't forget the Slender-man girls who attacked their classmate. Just because fantasy elements are involved in the student's narrative it doesn't mean there wasn't malicious intent.
Keep in mind we're only getting the parent's side of the one ring story, often there is more to the story in these that the parents leave out because it's their special snowflake.
A child threatened another child. The school has a policy about making threats. If the threat was about actual physical violence it would have been ignored by the national media but because the kid had claimed he had a ring that would turn the other child invisible it has been talked about for 3 days now.
How is "I have a magic ring that will turn you invisible" a threat much less a terroristic threat?
I'm pretty sure the kid's probably been bullying a bit and that provoked such a strong reaction from the kid being bullied that they decided to suspend the kid.
He's probably had warning in the past about it.
That being said, it dosen't take away from the fact that this whole thing is HILARIOUS.
you're assuming an AWFUL lot here
I no I'm pulling all of that directly out of my ass.
It is the only way I can make sense of the situation, for if this was a first time offense with the kid having no previous history of bullying then the school is literally completly insane and there is nothing more to talk about.
Ah, I has understand now.
I'm pretty sure he was selling ice cream laced with laxatives to his friends too so seriously fuck that kid
one ring my ass
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Keep in mind we're only getting the parent's side of the one ring story, often there is more to the story in these that the parents leave out because it's their special snowflake.
yeah maybe the other kid got his hands on the ring as a birthday present
I don't know, it kind of looks like something Will Smith might have perched on his cranium eighty seven years ago or whenever the comic strip "Curtis" could have possibly made sense to a living human being
Liability-wise, if a student claims they were threatened by another student and reports that to a teacher the teacher has to report it to the principle by federal law (and the principal has to take some reasonable action to verify and address it). While the media focuses on the silly part of this, don't forget the Slender-man girls who attacked their classmate. Just because fantasy elements are involved in the student's narrative it doesn't mean there wasn't malicious intent.
The slender man girls were burgeoning serial killers not school bullies. Slenderman was how the dominant girl controlled the submissive. She could have used Santa if the other girl was scared of him.
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EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
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And that matters how in relation to the current story? If a child threatens another child with dragons or ghosts or whatever and the other child is threatened enough to report it then there is a problem, regardless of the nature or reality of the original threat. Take the "One Ring" out of it and you basically have every standard three-day suspension ever. Contextually speaking it would make sense for the student to be suggesting harassment via using the invisibility power of the one ring to do some sort of harm. While not actually possible, depending on context the threat of harm could still be legitimate. Kids are quite cruel at that age.
Regardless, it's not disproportionate in all likelihood.
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I remember trying to trick my brother with "52 pickup" when I was a kid, but I threw the cards down in my own bedroom, and he just left and then I had to pick them up myself.
And that matters how in relation to the current story? If a child threatens another child with dragons or ghosts or whatever and the other child is threatened enough to report it then there is a problem, regardless of the nature or reality of the original threat. Take the "One Ring" out of it and you basically have every standard three-day suspension ever. Contextually speaking it would make sense for the student to be suggesting harassment via using the invisibility power of the one ring to do some sort of harm. While not actually possible, depending on context the threat of harm could still be legitimate. Kids are quite cruel at that age.
Regardless, it's not disproportionate in all likelihood.
Except you don't know the other child reported it; it could have just been overheard and "I'm going to turn you invisible with the One Ring" is just simply not a terroristic threat.
And that matters how in relation to the current story? If a child threatens another child with dragons or ghosts or whatever and the other child is threatened enough to report it then there is a problem, regardless of the nature or reality of the original threat. Take the "One Ring" out of it and you basically have every standard three-day suspension ever. Contextually speaking it would make sense for the student to be suggesting harassment via using the invisibility power of the one ring to do some sort of harm. While not actually possible, depending on context the threat of harm could still be legitimate. Kids are quite cruel at that age.
Regardless, it's not disproportionate in all likelihood.
Except you don't know the other child reported it; it could have just been overheard and "I'm going to turn you invisible with the One Ring" is just simply not a terroristic threat.
Right, I don't know! But the article itself has the principle quoted as saying there was a threat of harm to another student.
From working in public education for 15 years my understanding of teachers as a whole is they do not want the backlash of dealing the school administration or parents unless absolutely necessary by law/policy. I would be less inclined to believe that the teacher just had a stupid axe to grind against lord of the rings fandom than them being forced to report this sort of thing due to another student or parent complaint about threat of harm(which, again, would require the suspension in most cases). It just doesn't pass the sniff test.
Some of you are drastically overestimating the competence and rationality of american public school officials.
The original article has even the parent claiming the reason for the suspension was due to a threat of harm to another student. Legally, if a overt threat of harm happens in any school district AND it has been reported to any person who can be reasonably considered to represent the school or institution (teachers count for this), that person MUST report the incident to whoever the compliance officer of the institution is (which is typically the principal). Compliance person must then make a reasonable action to ensure the safety of the threatened, and even in a silly elementary school conflict the usual remedy is a short term suspension to tell the kid to knock it off.
It's generally not about competence or over reacting but legal requirements. Are those requirements wonky? Sure, but they are there for reactionary reasons due to worse incidents happening in the past due to school neglect when action could have been taken. I'd rather have a thousand one sided silly stories like this one than one about a student seriously being harmed and a school doing nothing when informed.
Devil's Advocate - For all we know that one ring kid cornered another kid in the bathroom and screamed at him for 20 minutes straight about how he was going to turn him invisible while the other kid was in the fetal position on the floor crying and begging him not to.
Then we are doomed and it is only a matter of time until a new Dark Lord arises
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Also: Haha lets be cool and edgy by calling public educators idiots. Despite them working in shitty conditions with terrible pay (especially in Texas), dealing with overbearing parents who would rather go to the media than work with the parents of the threatened child to figure out the source of the problem or acknowledge that the child might have actually been bullying someone.
Clearly the issue is incompetence here, not someone's brat threatening another kid. And certainly not the parents acting in the same manner to the school! No way is that taught behavior. Nope.
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Also: Haha lets be cool and edgy by calling public educators idiots. Despite them working in shitty conditions with terrible pay (especially in Texas), dealing with overbearing parents who would rather go to the media than work with the parents of the threatened child to figure out the source of the problem or acknowledge that the child might have actually been bullying someone.
Clearly the issue is incompetence here, not someone's brat threatening another kid. And certainly not the parents acting in the same manner to the school! No way is that taught behavior. Nope.
Man my mom's been a public school teacher for about 40 years now.
So I am cognizant enough of the complexities of the education system to assign blame neither to the teacher nor to the child. There's a lot of stuff we don't know about the situation after all.
Instead, I laugh at the fact that kid was at least on paper suspended for use of a magical artifact, because that's a funny fact. It has the advantage of not requiring me to get my dander up about a hypothetical dummy that I hypothetically hate.
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How is "I have a magic ring that will turn you invisible" a threat much less a terroristic threat?
I'm pretty sure the kid's probably been bullying a bit and that provoked such a strong reaction from the kid being bullied that they decided to suspend the kid.
He's probably had warning in the past about it.
That being said, it dosen't take away from the fact that this whole thing is HILARIOUS.
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you're assuming an AWFUL lot here
I no I'm pulling all of that directly out of my ass.
It is the only way I can make sense of the situation, for if this was a first time offense with the kid having no previous history of bullying then the school is literally completly insane and there is nothing more to talk about.
Schools do this because itll get press and " look tough" on bullying but still not actually do anything against actual bullies
Sounds like a threat was involved in the ring story. Also, teachers don't stand around listening for that stuff nor do they care typically unless there is a fairly aggressive tone or a student approaches them with the concern. Principles are brought into the picture unless teacher and the student who was thratened's parent are pushing for action.
Ah, I has understand now.
I'm pretty sure he was selling ice cream laced with laxatives to his friends too so seriously fuck that kid
one ring my ass
yeah maybe the other kid got his hands on the ring as a birthday present
what the hell is up with his hat
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The slender man girls were burgeoning serial killers not school bullies. Slenderman was how the dominant girl controlled the submissive. She could have used Santa if the other girl was scared of him.
Regardless, it's not disproportionate in all likelihood.
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Except you don't know the other child reported it; it could have just been overheard and "I'm going to turn you invisible with the One Ring" is just simply not a terroristic threat.
Right, I don't know! But the article itself has the principle quoted as saying there was a threat of harm to another student.
From working in public education for 15 years my understanding of teachers as a whole is they do not want the backlash of dealing the school administration or parents unless absolutely necessary by law/policy. I would be less inclined to believe that the teacher just had a stupid axe to grind against lord of the rings fandom than them being forced to report this sort of thing due to another student or parent complaint about threat of harm(which, again, would require the suspension in most cases). It just doesn't pass the sniff test.
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The original article has even the parent claiming the reason for the suspension was due to a threat of harm to another student. Legally, if a overt threat of harm happens in any school district AND it has been reported to any person who can be reasonably considered to represent the school or institution (teachers count for this), that person MUST report the incident to whoever the compliance officer of the institution is (which is typically the principal). Compliance person must then make a reasonable action to ensure the safety of the threatened, and even in a silly elementary school conflict the usual remedy is a short term suspension to tell the kid to knock it off.
It's generally not about competence or over reacting but legal requirements. Are those requirements wonky? Sure, but they are there for reactionary reasons due to worse incidents happening in the past due to school neglect when action could have been taken. I'd rather have a thousand one sided silly stories like this one than one about a student seriously being harmed and a school doing nothing when informed.
Then we are doomed and it is only a matter of time until a new Dark Lord arises
Clearly the issue is incompetence here, not someone's brat threatening another kid. And certainly not the parents acting in the same manner to the school! No way is that taught behavior. Nope.
Man my mom's been a public school teacher for about 40 years now.
So I am cognizant enough of the complexities of the education system to assign blame neither to the teacher nor to the child. There's a lot of stuff we don't know about the situation after all.
Instead, I laugh at the fact that kid was at least on paper suspended for use of a magical artifact, because that's a funny fact. It has the advantage of not requiring me to get my dander up about a hypothetical dummy that I hypothetically hate.