Honestly, that last story... I don't really get it. After it has happened so often and so regularly why did they keep looking for jobs with video game companies? Sure, maybe if it's just the two of them they should go for it and try to keep their dream jobs regardless of the difficulty, but they have 5 (I think I counted right) children. At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time.
They keep saying "it wasn't an option"
But yeah, I dunno, I feel like pretty much anything you are doing working on a video game you can probably go into a different sector and make better money with more job security because the games industry is a trashcan fire
That isn't to say there aren't reasons to work in videogames if that's what you love, but at some point if you are being hired by whatever studio will take you so that you can work a month before being fired you are probably not doing what you love there either
Hey, at least in the future automation will destroy the majority of blue and white collar jobs. Then working in the game industry will have literally no disadvantage!
I've been here for 8 years and I'm still in the bottom half, seniority wise.
One of the biggest advantages to working at a studio in an isolated location, with low overhead costs that does things both under-budget and at a high quality, you're basically at the bottom of the list of 'people we're going to cut when things get tight'.
Honestly, that last story... I don't really get it. After it has happened so often and so regularly why did they keep looking for jobs with video game companies? Sure, maybe if it's just the two of them they should go for it and try to keep their dream jobs regardless of the difficulty, but they have 5 (I think I counted right) children. At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time.
They keep saying "it wasn't an option"
But yeah, I dunno, I feel like pretty much anything you are doing working on a video game you can probably go into a different sector and make better money with more job security because the games industry is a trashcan fire
That isn't to say there aren't reasons to work in videogames if that's what you love, but at some point if you are being hired by whatever studio will take you so that you can work a month before being fired you are probably not doing what you love there either
What it comes down to is that the wife had no other marketable skills (moving kept her from returning to college) and any unskilled jobs probably wouldn't cover the costs they had gotten from their moves, not to mention she probably stayed home to raise the younger children to save on daycare costs.
Therefore it's on the husband, in this case, who can't get a job outside his industry, because any job outside of gaming industry would look at a resume like his and say "this guy must be unhireable! look at all these short stints!"
Honestly, that last story... I don't really get it. After it has happened so often and so regularly why did they keep looking for jobs with video game companies? Sure, maybe if it's just the two of them they should go for it and try to keep their dream jobs regardless of the difficulty, but they have 5 (I think I counted right) children. At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time.
They keep saying "it wasn't an option"
But yeah, I dunno, I feel like pretty much anything you are doing working on a video game you can probably go into a different sector and make better money with more job security because the games industry is a trashcan fire
That isn't to say there aren't reasons to work in videogames if that's what you love, but at some point if you are being hired by whatever studio will take you so that you can work a month before being fired you are probably not doing what you love there either
What it comes down to is that the wife had no other marketable skills (moving kept her from returning to college) and any unskilled jobs probably wouldn't cover the costs they had gotten from their moves, not to mention she probably stayed home to raise the younger children to save on daycare costs.
Therefore it's on the husband, in this case, who can't get a job outside his industry, because any job outside of gaming industry would look at a resume like his and say "this guy must be unhireable! look at all these short stints!"
Just fucking awful.
They even touched on that last point in the story, where at first companies they applied to were skeptical because of his work history but as time went on they stopped caring because it had become commonplace in the industry. After all that shit they went through I imagine both of them look at least a decade older than they should.
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Honestly, that last story... I don't really get it. After it has happened so often and so regularly why did they keep looking for jobs with video game companies? Sure, maybe if it's just the two of them they should go for it and try to keep their dream jobs regardless of the difficulty, but they have 5 (I think I counted right) children. At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time.
There's this, and there's also about a million comments on the article itself saying things like "why have kids if you can't afford them?"
Yeah, how dare somebody try to do a job they love. And kids? Only for the rich, right? It's totally their fault, not the exploitative practices of the industry.
"At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time."
Like, you realise how similar this sentiment is to saying that people who live in an inner-city ghetto full of crime, drugs and violence should just move to a nice little country town, right?
Honestly, that last story... I don't really get it. After it has happened so often and so regularly why did they keep looking for jobs with video game companies? Sure, maybe if it's just the two of them they should go for it and try to keep their dream jobs regardless of the difficulty, but they have 5 (I think I counted right) children. At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time.
There's this, and there's also about a million comments on the article itself saying things like "why have kids if you can't afford them?"
Yeah, how dare somebody try to do a job they love. And kids? Only for the rich, right? It's totally their fault, not the exploitative practices of the industry.
"At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time."
Like, you realise how similar this sentiment is to saying that people who live in an inner-city ghetto full of crime, drugs and violence should just move to a nice little country town, right?
Not really, no.
They were already making hard decisions and doing difficult things in order to keep themselves afloat, and just barely or even failing to succeed at that. My point was that they should just stop with the video games. This story spanned 14 years? Something like that. In all that time video games were the only jobs they could get? In every place they moved to? Video games aren't a crime-riddled city full of drugs keeping people from moving away from them due to decades of environmental and social factors. They are a job that require a variety of skills, most of which are probably applicable to other jobs in other industries.
If the issue is that those jobs won't pay as much... well, reading the story it seemed like the jobs they had weren't paying much as it was. Living in a hotel for months, not knowing when you'll eventually lose the job and have to move again because it has become that regular an occurrence? Like... I understand it won't be easy, but my god this industry is ruining your life why do you keep looking for jobs within it?
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There's this, and there's also about a million comments on the article itself saying things like "why have kids if you can't afford them?"
Yeah, how dare somebody try to do a job they love. And kids? Only for the rich, right? It's totally their fault, not the exploitative practices of the industry.
I am only talking about myself here and not passing judgement on anybody else.
Like, for me personally, yeah kinda.
Even if I ever wanted kids (which for me would probably mean adoption, what with being asexual) I'd never go through with it being in my current financial situation. I'd be terrified that I wouldn't be able to provide for them, or even if I could that I wouldn't be able to give them the life I think they'd deserve.
I don't think I'm alone in that opinion either. Birth rates in the US have been on the decline for a while, and it's at least partially due to the increasing wage gap.
It's a shit fucking situation and I truly hope it works out for anyone who does want kids, but it's not a jump I'd be willing to take.
Not that I am saying this was the case, but I know way too many people who will go jobless rather than take a job that "pays below what they feel they are worth"
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That interview was almost as intense as the game of Dog Eat Dog I played last weekend.
Just, jeez.
Major props to RPS for asking hard hitting questions, but I am not a fan of the opening question. Molyneux certainly had some interesting, if often evasive, answers.
RPS: Do you think that you’re a pathological liar?
Peter Molyneux: That’s a very…
RPS: I know it’s a harsh question, but it seems an important question to ask because there do seem to be lots and lots of lies piling up.
Peter Molyneux: I’m not aware of a single lie, actually. I’m aware of me saying things and because of circumstances often outside of our control those things don’t come to pass, but I don’t think that’s called lying, is it? I don’t think I’ve ever knowingly lied, at all. And if you want to call me on one I’ll talk about it for sure.
RPS: During the Kickstarter for Godus you stated, regarding that you don’t want to use a publisher stating, “It’ll just be you and our unbridled dedication (no publishers).” And five months later you signed with a publisher.
Peter Molyneux: Absolutely. And at that time I wish we had raised enough money to not need a publisher.
Holy shit. I agree that Molyneux doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves or anything, but what a stupid fucking question.
the thing is, if you were going to try and really hold him to the fire, you've completely fucked up. You're not going to get anything other than evasion once you open with are you a liar
Holy shit. I agree that Molyneux doesn't need to be treated with kid gloves or anything, but what a stupid fucking question.
the thing is, if you were going to try and really hold him to the fire, you've completely fucked up. You're not going to get anything other than evasion once you open with are you a liar
Exactly. It's not in good taste or even a very good idea!
There are... christ you could write ten articles digging into the things Peter said but the interviewer stayed on the most superficial you're a disappointment level
There are... christ you could write ten articles digging into the things Peter said but the interviewer stayed on the most superficial you're a disappointment level
Going into an interview with the mentality that you're going to 'get' someone isn't just unprofessional, it also puts blinders on you and you're going to miss out on a bunch of interesting followups
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They keep saying "it wasn't an option"
But yeah, I dunno, I feel like pretty much anything you are doing working on a video game you can probably go into a different sector and make better money with more job security because the games industry is a trashcan fire
That isn't to say there aren't reasons to work in videogames if that's what you love, but at some point if you are being hired by whatever studio will take you so that you can work a month before being fired you are probably not doing what you love there either
Perfect.
One of the biggest advantages to working at a studio in an isolated location, with low overhead costs that does things both under-budget and at a high quality, you're basically at the bottom of the list of 'people we're going to cut when things get tight'.
I fully recognize that we are an anomaly, though.
What it comes down to is that the wife had no other marketable skills (moving kept her from returning to college) and any unskilled jobs probably wouldn't cover the costs they had gotten from their moves, not to mention she probably stayed home to raise the younger children to save on daycare costs.
Therefore it's on the husband, in this case, who can't get a job outside his industry, because any job outside of gaming industry would look at a resume like his and say "this guy must be unhireable! look at all these short stints!"
Just fucking awful.
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They even touched on that last point in the story, where at first companies they applied to were skeptical because of his work history but as time went on they stopped caring because it had become commonplace in the industry. After all that shit they went through I imagine both of them look at least a decade older than they should.
There's this, and there's also about a million comments on the article itself saying things like "why have kids if you can't afford them?"
Yeah, how dare somebody try to do a job they love. And kids? Only for the rich, right? It's totally their fault, not the exploitative practices of the industry.
"At some point you just have to stop putting yourself in situations were the terrible people in charge of these companies are going to 100% take advantage of you, guaranteed, because it happens literally every time."
Like, you realise how similar this sentiment is to saying that people who live in an inner-city ghetto full of crime, drugs and violence should just move to a nice little country town, right?
Not really, no.
They were already making hard decisions and doing difficult things in order to keep themselves afloat, and just barely or even failing to succeed at that. My point was that they should just stop with the video games. This story spanned 14 years? Something like that. In all that time video games were the only jobs they could get? In every place they moved to? Video games aren't a crime-riddled city full of drugs keeping people from moving away from them due to decades of environmental and social factors. They are a job that require a variety of skills, most of which are probably applicable to other jobs in other industries.
If the issue is that those jobs won't pay as much... well, reading the story it seemed like the jobs they had weren't paying much as it was. Living in a hotel for months, not knowing when you'll eventually lose the job and have to move again because it has become that regular an occurrence? Like... I understand it won't be easy, but my god this industry is ruining your life why do you keep looking for jobs within it?
I am only talking about myself here and not passing judgement on anybody else.
Like, for me personally, yeah kinda.
Even if I ever wanted kids (which for me would probably mean adoption, what with being asexual) I'd never go through with it being in my current financial situation. I'd be terrified that I wouldn't be able to provide for them, or even if I could that I wouldn't be able to give them the life I think they'd deserve.
I don't think I'm alone in that opinion either. Birth rates in the US have been on the decline for a while, and it's at least partially due to the increasing wage gap.
It's a shit fucking situation and I truly hope it works out for anyone who does want kids, but it's not a jump I'd be willing to take.
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Those people are idiots
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my special attack is, you know that item in smash bros that is like a tiny star which follows the paths of floors and walls? like that but everywhere it goes it leaves a death zone in its wake and also there are ten of them
it's amazing, is what i'm telling you
Just, jeez.
Major props to RPS for asking hard hitting questions, but I am not a fan of the opening question. Molyneux certainly had some interesting, if often evasive, answers.
It's, yeah, an interesting interview.
But wow it was a bit of a trainwreck.
people so up their own ass with the imagined importance of their jobs that they do shit like that
what a fucking irresponsible asshole
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no its ok RPS is going to expose him as the fraud he really is
the thing is, if you were going to try and really hold him to the fire, you've completely fucked up. You're not going to get anything other than evasion once you open with are you a liar
Exactly. It's not in good taste or even a very good idea!
There are... christ you could write ten articles digging into the things Peter said but the interviewer stayed on the most superficial you're a disappointment level
Going into an interview with the mentality that you're going to 'get' someone isn't just unprofessional, it also puts blinders on you and you're going to miss out on a bunch of interesting followups
nah, just shitty
I sure wouldn't if I said it
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Not that I agree with everything (or, indeed, anything) they might say.
My guess is that first question is just there for "comedic" effect.