GumpyThere is alwaysa greater powerRegistered Userregular
Molyneux has gone from charmingly overambitious to kinda a dick over the kickstarter thing. He was selling picks to help win curiosity, but it now looks like he isn't expecting to actually pay out the prize for it and I don't believe he can get away with saying that the only reason things haven't happened like he said was reasons outside his control, mainly due to the vast amount of experience he has in the industry and his high position within 22 cans. RPS didn't need to be a dick about it, but in my mind he's crossed into the realm of actively scamming players.
it's clearer than ever that peter molyneux should not be in charge of running a studio
but with this position he's gotten himself and his company into there's not really a choice beyond trying to soldier along and finish this fucking game
cancelling godus and refunding the kickstarter would cost as much as paying the team for another year and just about certainly sink the company and leave those people out of a job
I mean, improv is a lot harder than taking the time to really work out a joke
No I mean I'm not blaming him, but he's actually become one of my favorite people on twitter, thats all I really mean
Alex seems like a pretty cool guy that really is getting helped out by having Vinny around to loosen him up some.
He tries to hard in most stuff, but everyone in the group has had some of that to get over before really hitting their stride. For a long time Drew was just that quiet video guy. Now he's some sort of Ron Swanson.
perhaps the most troubling aspect of godus' development in that interview is that people keep leaving and then get replaced by new people (who at least in one case were not even paid for a year) who then leave not too long after and themselves get replaced
Oh my god the music for that Deathwing trailer is so tonally "wrong" for the modern 40k franchise that it actually loops back around, becomes incredible, and brings the franchise back to it's 80s British hair metal roots which is what I feel like they desperately need to do.
240,000,000 posts calling Peter Molyneux a liar and mocking him for lying.
RPS perform interview where they ask Peter Molyneux if he is a liar.
240,000,000 posts saying that it isn't on to call him a liar.
You make a good point in the fact that most "games journalists " are as professional and insightful as any given anonymous internet poster making points not directly to the person involved
Langly on
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MachwingIt looks like a harmless old computer, doesn't it?Left in this cave to rot ... or to flower!Registered Userregular
It's a crappy article but an excellent talking piece
RPS should never ever do something like it again, with the caveat that it would be amazing if they did
You make a good point in the fact that most "games journalists " are as professional and insightful as any given anonymous internet poster making points not directly to the person involved
Gotcha, it's okay to shit talk someone behind their back but not to give them a chance to respond.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
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ArtreusI'm a wizardAnd that looks fucked upRegistered Userregular
I said it in the steam thread and I'll say it again.
I liked that music for the trailer
I thought it was totally fine for the trailer, and a good song in general.
You make a good point in the fact that most "games journalists " are as professional and insightful as any given anonymous internet poster making points not directly to the person involved
Gotcha, it's okay to shit talk someone behind their back but not to give them a chance to respond.
no, it is ok to talk about an issue and surmise that someone is probably lying in the way they are talking about a project.
It is unprofessional and dumb to open an interview with "are you a liar"
Tell me, what do you think the answer will be? Do you think the answer will be yes? Or will every person on the planet get defensive and say No of course not, here are my automatic excuses for x y and z?
As an interviewer, it is your job to draw information out of the subject, and if you have negative opinions of them, to craft questions in such a way that they hang themselves. Or even better, find interesting avenues to tread with that person to get them to open up about why they have failed.
Man, the Frost/Nixon interview would be so much better if he had just started by asking Nixon if he was a liar!
Why would you combine anything but Metal with 40K trailers. Come on!
Put some fucking Bolt Thrower on that
It was a small thing but I liked that they had a "genestealer commander" in that trailer, a guy that showed up in some of the more recent editions of the boardgame. I wonder if a space hulk game shouldn't start incorporating all of the Tyranid fauna?
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
I don't care that he was mean to molyneux. who cares about molyneux, here?
it's just a dumb thing to do, and furthermore it lets molyneux off the hook
I agree with that. I don't really think "unprofessional" is the right term (I think there are times where it's entirely appropriate to straight up call someone a liar in a journalistic context), but I definitely think it was idiotic for the practical reasons you outlined. If you want to actually get something out of him you should be setting up those questions for later rather than starting the interview with brazen hostility.
Peter Molyneux has admitted regret and culpability; he was clearly in distress throughout the interview – an interview he told us would will be his last. An hour before publication, however, we discovered that he had spoken to the gaming news site Rock, Paper, Shotgun the day before, and had given their interviewer the same impression – that he would no longer be speaking to the press (that interview is now online). He has also spoken to at least one other site, seemingly on the same afternoon as our discussion. Another trail of broken assurances.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
except those questions are fucking stupid
None of this text relates to me "misrepresenting" what happened in the interview. In fact you seem to agree that it was mean? Also you seem to think Molyneux was in some way "forced" to participate in this interview? I'm actually sort of impressed that Molyneux stuck it out. I'm also not disagreeing with you that the interview was poorly performed.
My point is that this interviewer may be an asshole, but he didn't take anybody's money to be one, and he also hasn't jeopardized people's jobs with his incompetence. Molyneux has done those things, and by most accounts will continue to do them.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
except those questions are fucking stupid
None of this text relates to me "misrepresenting" what happened in the interview. In fact you seem to agree that it was mean? Also you seem to think Molyneux was in some way "forced" to participate in this interview? I'm actually sort of impressed that Molyneux stuck it out. I'm also not disagreeing with you that the interview was poorly performed.
My point is that this interviewer may be an asshole, but he didn't take anybody's money to be one, and he also hasn't jeopardized people's jobs with his incompetence. Molyneux has done those things, and by most accounts will continue to do them.
By that logic noone forced people to work for molyneux, or give money to molyneux
Peter Molyneux has admitted regret and culpability; he was clearly in distress throughout the interview – an interview he told us would will be his last. An hour before publication, however, we discovered that he had spoken to the gaming news site Rock, Paper, Shotgun the day before, and had given their interviewer the same impression – that he would no longer be speaking to the press (that interview is now online). He has also spoken to at least one other site, seemingly on the same afternoon as our discussion. Another trail of broken assurances.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
except those questions are fucking stupid
None of this text relates to me "misrepresenting" what happened in the interview. In fact you seem to agree that it was mean? Also you seem to think Molyneux was in some way "forced" to participate in this interview? I'm actually sort of impressed that Molyneux stuck it out. I'm also not disagreeing with you that the interview was poorly performed.
My point is that this interviewer may be an asshole, but he didn't take anybody's money to be one, and he also hasn't jeopardized people's jobs with his incompetence. Molyneux has done those things, and by most accounts will continue to do them.
By that logic noone forced people to work for molyneux, or give money to molyneux
I have literally no idea what this post is meant to get across.
You're saying it's consumers' fault for trusting Molyneux? I have no idea what you're getting at. I'm flummoxed.
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
except those questions are fucking stupid
None of this text relates to me "misrepresenting" what happened in the interview. In fact you seem to agree that it was mean? Also you seem to think Molyneux was in some way "forced" to participate in this interview? I'm actually sort of impressed that Molyneux stuck it out. I'm also not disagreeing with you that the interview was poorly performed.
My point is that this interviewer may be an asshole, but he didn't take anybody's money to be one, and he also hasn't jeopardized people's jobs with his incompetence. Molyneux has done those things, and by most accounts will continue to do them.
By that logic noone forced people to work for molyneux, or give money to molyneux
I have literally no idea what this post is meant to get across.
You're saying it's consumers' fault for trusting Molyneux? I have no idea what you're getting at. I'm flummoxed.
Yes absolutely
If you gave him money after his track record he is not solely to blame
Oh my god was someone mean to Peter Molyneux in an interview for his hilariously mismanaged project where he wasted his fans money and jeopardized his employees livelihood by being completely unable to set a reasonable scope?
Oh noooooo
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
except those questions are fucking stupid
None of this text relates to me "misrepresenting" what happened in the interview. In fact you seem to agree that it was mean? Also you seem to think Molyneux was in some way "forced" to participate in this interview? I'm actually sort of impressed that Molyneux stuck it out. I'm also not disagreeing with you that the interview was poorly performed.
My point is that this interviewer may be an asshole, but he didn't take anybody's money to be one, and he also hasn't jeopardized people's jobs with his incompetence. Molyneux has done those things, and by most accounts will continue to do them.
By that logic noone forced people to work for molyneux, or give money to molyneux
I have literally no idea what this post is meant to get across.
You're saying it's consumers' fault for trusting Molyneux? I have no idea what you're getting at. I'm flummoxed.
Yes absolutely
If you gave him money after his track record he is not solely to blame
Posts
When it's someone who's just working at a store or some shitty office the humour evaporates pretty quickly.
I heard nothing good about it
but with this position he's gotten himself and his company into there's not really a choice beyond trying to soldier along and finish this fucking game
cancelling godus and refunding the kickstarter would cost as much as paying the team for another year and just about certainly sink the company and leave those people out of a job
No I mean I'm not blaming him, but he's actually become one of my favorite people on twitter, thats all I really mean
Alex seems like a pretty cool guy that really is getting helped out by having Vinny around to loosen him up some.
He tries to hard in most stuff, but everyone in the group has had some of that to get over before really hitting their stride. For a long time Drew was just that quiet video guy. Now he's some sort of Ron Swanson.
that is not good for a 22 person project
wish john walker had followed up more on that
RPS perform interview where they ask Peter Molyneux if he is a liar.
240,000,000 posts saying that it isn't on to call him a liar.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
RPS should never ever do something like it again, with the caveat that it would be amazing if they did
Steam ID: Obos Vent: Obos
Gotcha, it's okay to shit talk someone behind their back but not to give them a chance to respond.
I made a game, it has penguins in it. It's pay what you like on Gumroad.
Currently Ebaying Nothing at all but I might do in the future.
Oh noooooo
I liked that music for the trailer
I thought it was totally fine for the trailer, and a good song in general.
no, it is ok to talk about an issue and surmise that someone is probably lying in the way they are talking about a project.
It is unprofessional and dumb to open an interview with "are you a liar"
Tell me, what do you think the answer will be? Do you think the answer will be yes? Or will every person on the planet get defensive and say No of course not, here are my automatic excuses for x y and z?
As an interviewer, it is your job to draw information out of the subject, and if you have negative opinions of them, to craft questions in such a way that they hang themselves. Or even better, find interesting avenues to tread with that person to get them to open up about why they have failed.
Man, the Frost/Nixon interview would be so much better if he had just started by asking Nixon if he was a liar!
It was a small thing but I liked that they had a "genestealer commander" in that trailer, a guy that showed up in some of the more recent editions of the boardgame. I wonder if a space hulk game shouldn't start incorporating all of the Tyranid fauna?
Which is a lot worse! Cutting out that first question though, the interview seems alright?
My Steam
This is a gross misrepresentation of what happened in that interview, John.
idgi
it's just a dumb thing to do, and furthermore it lets molyneux off the hook
Noone, as far as I know, is upset that he's 'mean'
The interviewer is insanely unprofessional
He sets himself up to not receive answers by asking the dumbest possible question
and then he hammers and hammers and hammers
its dogged determination that was never at any point going to result in useful information
He did a shitty, asshole thing. Being 'mean' to Molyneux doesn't enter into it. He invited the man for an interview under false pretenses, was a rank amatuer, and then basically forced the man to listen to a litany of accusations against him that weren't even really questions because of course he wasn't going to answer them
its a waste of the interviewers time, the readers time, and molyneux's time, and the only reason it exists is so the interviewer can stroke his own ego and tell himself he has the balls to ask the 'hard questions'
except those questions are fucking stupid
I agree with that. I don't really think "unprofessional" is the right term (I think there are times where it's entirely appropriate to straight up call someone a liar in a journalistic context), but I definitely think it was idiotic for the practical reasons you outlined. If you want to actually get something out of him you should be setting up those questions for later rather than starting the interview with brazen hostility.
None of this text relates to me "misrepresenting" what happened in the interview. In fact you seem to agree that it was mean? Also you seem to think Molyneux was in some way "forced" to participate in this interview? I'm actually sort of impressed that Molyneux stuck it out. I'm also not disagreeing with you that the interview was poorly performed.
My point is that this interviewer may be an asshole, but he didn't take anybody's money to be one, and he also hasn't jeopardized people's jobs with his incompetence. Molyneux has done those things, and by most accounts will continue to do them.
By that logic noone forced people to work for molyneux, or give money to molyneux
hahahahahah
noone is sitting here going 'oh poor molyxneux'
I have literally no idea what this post is meant to get across.
You're saying it's consumers' fault for trusting Molyneux? I have no idea what you're getting at. I'm flummoxed.
good move
Yes absolutely
If you gave him money after his track record he is not solely to blame
I very much disagree.
imagine