I could see Pyongyang pulling a stunt like opening an unlicensed McDonalds just to troll the West. Then presumably claiming it's the original and their brand is taking hold all over the world in a show of North Korean cultural influence. And that it's the only place malnourished Westerners can afford a square meal, as the low prices are subsidized by the Dear Leader's generosity.
That'd be in keeping with the howling insanity we're accustomed to seeing blow southward across the DMZ and over the sea from that bizarre rogue state.
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I could see Pyongyang pulling a stunt like opening an unlicensed McDonalds just to troll the West. Then presumably claiming it's the original and their brand is taking hold all over the world in a show of North Korean cultural influence. And that it's the only place malnourished Westerners can afford a square meal, as the low prices are subsidized by the Dear Leader's generosity.
That'd be in keeping with the howling insanity we're accustomed to seeing blow southward across the DMZ and over the sea from that bizarre rogue state.
The first propaganda images are of Kim Jong-Un ordering a Royale with Cheese, because fuck the American names.
Jesus, I did not expect so much rage from Dan for Monster Hunter. To be honest I get what he means. I enjoy MH4's demo so much more because you don't have to deal with all those other things (crafting, mining, etc etc) and just focus on the good stuff. The hunting, etc.
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Jeff did bring up a great point though. When someone states something like "Such and such sucks", can we finally get to the point where it's just implied that's there opinion? Do we really need the "That's just like, your opinion man" roll call everyone time someone states a strong opinion?
I think Dan's opinions on the matter dumb, but I know they are his opinions, and he doesn't need to present them in some fair and balanced way. He's not CNN.
"This sucks" and "I don't like it" are not the same thing. You don't go see a quality film and say it sucks just because you don't like the genre; that's your problem, not the film's, and the same is true with games.
Yes, you can get away with it in a group of friends where you exaggerate for effect and everyone knows what's up, but saying something sucks just because it's not your thing, irrespective of its quality and value to the target audience, is being kind of dickish.
Then feel free to say it sucks. But if the vast majority disagrees don't be surprised that they might want you to substantiate your opinion with more than just "it's my opinion, man".
Everytime I go "You know, Dan's not that crazy" he says stuff like "There's no McDonalds in North Korea?" No Dan, you can't hop out and grab a burger from a fast food joint in the super totalitarian evil starving country. Saying "i bet I could" sure feels insulting to all the starving oppressed people who are struggling to live over there.
And how he treats Monster Hunter. Obviously the game has some merit or so many people wouldn't still be enjoying it. I don't disagree that it has some bad design elements. Like, show me what the hell the little monster I'm supposed to be finding looks like, sure. But then Dan throws down "it's a bad game" and calls it garbage and whatnot. They have to mediate down to Dan saying "I don't like it, therefore it is a bad game to me" but holy shit why do they have to do that for a grown ass man. Dan acts like a 12 year old fanboy who can't appreciate anything he doesn't personally enjoy. I don't really like cigars but I understand why some people do. Dan doesn't like something and has zero capacity for empathy for why someone else might enjoy it.
He just has no maturity. There is no empathy for others in him. He's all annoyed at slackline people and hippies in the park, but then in the last podcast said he didn't like Unicycles or whatever, but it'd be fine in the park! Except it wouldn't be, because he hates that too, but doesn't realize he's being crazy there.
LIke, he seems like a perfectly friendly fellow but man sometimes it is infuriating to listen to him.
I feel like what we're lambasting Dan for is a lot of the same stuff that Jeff does. The only real difference is that while Jeff probably does think that Monster Hunter sucks his presentation is 1,000,000 times better and comes across as a joke.
Also, Monster Hunter sucks. I don't want to chase shit around the world. I found the fucker - let's have this fight until one of us is dead.
Dan was 100% right that there needs to be a moratorium on "in my opinion" bullshit on the Internet. If you're stating an objective fact, you'd preface the statement with that, but an opinion should always be implied.
Dan was 100% right that there needs to be a moratorium on "in my opinion" bullshit on the Internet. If you're stating an objective fact, you'd preface the statement with that, but an opinion should always be implied.
I think by now Dan has explained his speech patterns ad nauseum, and shouldnt have to keep saying it over and over. But it's far from implied and merits clarification in a lot of conversation.
The quickest way to shut him down on monster hunter controls being objectively terrible, is saying "then it goes the same for resident evil 4". I hate both and would be willing to call them shitty on those grounds. Keep in mind, noone was there to give a reason why there was anything positive about monster hunter. It's not dan's or anyones job to learn why someone else likes something, he straight says it's ok to like it and thats their business.
If everybody keeps calling you out on a thing it's not their fault for not adapting to you. You get to be yourself, but you also have to accept that not everybody else has to like the way you are.
Dan was 100% right that there needs to be a moratorium on "in my opinion" bullshit on the Internet. If you're stating an objective fact, you'd preface the statement with that, but an opinion should always be implied.
But it's far from implied and merits clarification in a lot of conversation.
Why? Why would it ever be assumed someone is stating an objective truth over an opinion?
Dan was 100% right that there needs to be a moratorium on "in my opinion" bullshit on the Internet. If you're stating an objective fact, you'd preface the statement with that, but an opinion should always be implied.
But it's far from implied and merits clarification in a lot of conversation.
Why? Why would it ever be assumed someone is stating an objective truth over an opinion?
Because they are video game reviewers, who have a job telling us if they think a game is a bad game or not.
"I think this is a bad game"
is a VERY different statement than
"I think this game is one I do not like."
Again, Dan doesn't think about others when he makes statements like that. He thinks "I don't like it, and I'm the best judge of everything, so it must be bad, or I'd like it."
He doesn't think "I don't enjoy this, but I bet other people would because it's still a well put together thing."
Because they are people who review games for a living
It sucks for Monster Hunter and it sucks for ET the video game are two vastly different descriptions and your audience needs to be able to tell the difference
All reviews are opinions as well. Opinions said publicly in order to provide advice on purchasing decisions, but opinions nonetheless.
Dan thinks Monster Hunter is a bad game because he had a terrible time with it. If he was reviewing it he might make recommendations based on what he thinks certain people might like about it, but he's not, he's just talking about his experience on a podcast.
Dan was 100% right that there needs to be a moratorium on "in my opinion" bullshit on the Internet. If you're stating an objective fact, you'd preface the statement with that, but an opinion should always be implied.
But it's far from implied and merits clarification in a lot of conversation.
Why? Why would it ever be assumed someone is stating an objective truth over an opinion?
Because they are video game reviewers, who have a job telling us if they think a game is a bad game or not.
"I think this is a bad game"
is a VERY different statement than
"I think this game is one I do not like."
Again, Dan doesn't think about others when he makes statements like that. He thinks "I don't like it, and I'm the best judge of everything, so it must be bad, or I'd like it."
He doesn't think "I don't enjoy this, but I bet other people would because it's still a well put together thing."
This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, the issue is with the useless preface of "in my opinion" before any statement someone makes.
Everytime I go "You know, Dan's not that crazy" he says stuff like "There's no McDonalds in North Korea?" No Dan, you can't hop out and grab a burger from a fast food joint in the super totalitarian evil starving country. Saying "i bet I could" sure feels insulting to all the starving oppressed people who are struggling to live over there.
And how he treats Monster Hunter. Obviously the game has some merit or so many people wouldn't still be enjoying it. I don't disagree that it has some bad design elements. Like, show me what the hell the little monster I'm supposed to be finding looks like, sure. But then Dan throws down "it's a bad game" and calls it garbage and whatnot. They have to mediate down to Dan saying "I don't like it, therefore it is a bad game to me" but holy shit why do they have to do that for a grown ass man. Dan acts like a 12 year old fanboy who can't appreciate anything he doesn't personally enjoy. I don't really like cigars but I understand why some people do. Dan doesn't like something and has zero capacity for empathy for why someone else might enjoy it.
He just has no maturity. There is no empathy for others in him. He's all annoyed at slackline people and hippies in the park, but then in the last podcast said he didn't like Unicycles or whatever, but it'd be fine in the park! Except it wouldn't be, because he hates that too, but doesn't realize he's being crazy there.
LIke, he seems like a perfectly friendly fellow but man sometimes it is infuriating to listen to him.
Jesus. Christ.
Listen to one episode of Danswers. Or part of an episode of Danswers. Or somehow get a view of him that is not him purposefully exaggerating for entertainment value.
more important than the distinctions between "I think this is a bad game" and "I think this game is one I do not like." are just talking about the things you did not like or think are bad and explaining specifically why you think so
I seriously doubt anyone in this thread, or anyone with any amount of familiarity with Giant Bomb, is of the misapprehension that an opinion expressed on the bombcast is meant to be some kind of declaration of objective truth about quality made from a position of Authority as a Video Game Reviewer.
Giant Bomb is just about the last source anyone should consult to get their mythical "Objective Video Game Review", and that isn't an accident.
Because they are people who review games for a living
It sucks for Monster Hunter and it sucks for ET the video game are two vastly different descriptions and your audience needs to be able to tell the difference
Well thank goodness they spent like 15 minutes discussing at length why Dan hates monster hunter so that people could tell the difference.
Everytime I go "You know, Dan's not that crazy" he says stuff like "There's no McDonalds in North Korea?" No Dan, you can't hop out and grab a burger from a fast food joint in the super totalitarian evil starving country. Saying "i bet I could" sure feels insulting to all the starving oppressed people who are struggling to live over there.
And how he treats Monster Hunter. Obviously the game has some merit or so many people wouldn't still be enjoying it. I don't disagree that it has some bad design elements. Like, show me what the hell the little monster I'm supposed to be finding looks like, sure. But then Dan throws down "it's a bad game" and calls it garbage and whatnot. They have to mediate down to Dan saying "I don't like it, therefore it is a bad game to me" but holy shit why do they have to do that for a grown ass man. Dan acts like a 12 year old fanboy who can't appreciate anything he doesn't personally enjoy. I don't really like cigars but I understand why some people do. Dan doesn't like something and has zero capacity for empathy for why someone else might enjoy it.
He just has no maturity. There is no empathy for others in him. He's all annoyed at slackline people and hippies in the park, but then in the last podcast said he didn't like Unicycles or whatever, but it'd be fine in the park! Except it wouldn't be, because he hates that too, but doesn't realize he's being crazy there.
LIke, he seems like a perfectly friendly fellow but man sometimes it is infuriating to listen to him.
Jesus. Christ.
Listen to one episode of Danswers. Or part of an episode of Danswers. Or somehow get a view of him that is not him purposefully exaggerating for entertainment value.
Or you could explain why I should? Why is he purposefully exaggerating qualities that make me want to listen to him less? That's entertainment value? I am confused. I honestly don't know what you're referring to. I definitely think Dan can be sympathetic towards others, just not empathetic. At least based on what i've heard from watching Quicklooks and the Bombcast. He seems to be able to say "oh, that's terrible for that person" but not "I understand why someone might like something I don't"
edit: I am aware when Dan says "this game is bad" it's his opinion. I'm saying he's still dumb for phrasing it that way, since he's claiming it as objective fact when it clearly isn't. Just because we all know what he meant doesn't mean he did it correctly.
edit: I am aware when Dan says "this game is bad" it's his opinion. I'm saying he's still dumb for phrasing it that way, since he's claiming it as objective fact when it clearly isn't. Just because we all know what he meant doesn't mean he did it correctly.
Because of all this Monster Hunter talk i'm giving 3 another shot. I was surprised that there are actual tutorials in it, explaining how resources work and how to craft things and how to use the farm, different weapons, fishing, all that stuff. Things like ducking in order to harvest faster aren't covered, of course, but a lot is. I wonder if they just took all that stuff out for 4 for some reason.
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He even states it's his opinion, during the conversation.
Everytime I go "You know, Dan's not that crazy" he says stuff like "There's no McDonalds in North Korea?" No Dan, you can't hop out and grab a burger from a fast food joint in the super totalitarian evil starving country. Saying "i bet I could" sure feels insulting to all the starving oppressed people who are struggling to live over there.
And how he treats Monster Hunter. Obviously the game has some merit or so many people wouldn't still be enjoying it. I don't disagree that it has some bad design elements. Like, show me what the hell the little monster I'm supposed to be finding looks like, sure. But then Dan throws down "it's a bad game" and calls it garbage and whatnot. They have to mediate down to Dan saying "I don't like it, therefore it is a bad game to me" but holy shit why do they have to do that for a grown ass man. Dan acts like a 12 year old fanboy who can't appreciate anything he doesn't personally enjoy. I don't really like cigars but I understand why some people do. Dan doesn't like something and has zero capacity for empathy for why someone else might enjoy it.
He just has no maturity. There is no empathy for others in him. He's all annoyed at slackline people and hippies in the park, but then in the last podcast said he didn't like Unicycles or whatever, but it'd be fine in the park! Except it wouldn't be, because he hates that too, but doesn't realize he's being crazy there.
LIke, he seems like a perfectly friendly fellow but man sometimes it is infuriating to listen to him.
Jesus. Christ.
Listen to one episode of Danswers. Or part of an episode of Danswers. Or somehow get a view of him that is not him purposefully exaggerating for entertainment value.
Or you could explain why I should? Why is he purposefully exaggerating qualities that make me want to listen to him less? That's entertainment value? I am confused. I honestly don't know what you're referring to. I definitely think Dan can be sympathetic towards others, just not empathetic. At least based on what i've heard from watching Quicklooks and the Bombcast. He seems to be able to say "oh, that's terrible for that person" but not "I understand why someone might like something I don't"
edit: I am aware when Dan says "this game is bad" it's his opinion. I'm saying he's still dumb for phrasing it that way, since he's claiming it as objective fact when it clearly isn't. Just because we all know what he meant doesn't mean he did it correctly.
Giant Bomb "does bits". That's their thing. Everyone has their "style". It's all right if you don't like Dan's style, which happens to be one long, stretched out "half-bit" which is half truth, half exaggeration of his Midwestern tendencies. I understand if people don't like it.
I happen to really like how Dan works with the Giant Bomb crew, which leads to listening to and watching stuff that shows a side to him he doesn't put forth in the podcasts and many of their other videos. Maybe I should have been more diplomatic in my previous post. I'm not demanding that you search out more stuff to 'find the truth in Dan'. I'm suggesting you may learn more about the man if you view him outside of the entertainment context.
When he said the North Korea/McDonald's bit, I laughed because it's perfectly clear to me that a thirty year old man who works with and on the Internet and has done so for years understands what's up withNorth Korea.
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That'd be in keeping with the howling insanity we're accustomed to seeing blow southward across the DMZ and over the sea from that bizarre rogue state.
It has been on my mind since that adorable and gorgeous Nintendoland mini-game.
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The first propaganda images are of Kim Jong-Un ordering a Royale with Cheese, because fuck the American names.
Also, DMC x MH? Yeah, I'd buy that.
I think Dan's opinions on the matter dumb, but I know they are his opinions, and he doesn't need to present them in some fair and balanced way. He's not CNN.
Yes, you can get away with it in a group of friends where you exaggerate for effect and everyone knows what's up, but saying something sucks just because it's not your thing, irrespective of its quality and value to the target audience, is being kind of dickish.
And how he treats Monster Hunter. Obviously the game has some merit or so many people wouldn't still be enjoying it. I don't disagree that it has some bad design elements. Like, show me what the hell the little monster I'm supposed to be finding looks like, sure. But then Dan throws down "it's a bad game" and calls it garbage and whatnot. They have to mediate down to Dan saying "I don't like it, therefore it is a bad game to me" but holy shit why do they have to do that for a grown ass man. Dan acts like a 12 year old fanboy who can't appreciate anything he doesn't personally enjoy. I don't really like cigars but I understand why some people do. Dan doesn't like something and has zero capacity for empathy for why someone else might enjoy it.
He just has no maturity. There is no empathy for others in him. He's all annoyed at slackline people and hippies in the park, but then in the last podcast said he didn't like Unicycles or whatever, but it'd be fine in the park! Except it wouldn't be, because he hates that too, but doesn't realize he's being crazy there.
LIke, he seems like a perfectly friendly fellow but man sometimes it is infuriating to listen to him.
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Except for Vinnie. And Drew.
Also, Monster Hunter sucks. I don't want to chase shit around the world. I found the fucker - let's have this fight until one of us is dead.
That fits because they're both the most boring. They barely have opinions on anything.
I think by now Dan has explained his speech patterns ad nauseum, and shouldnt have to keep saying it over and over. But it's far from implied and merits clarification in a lot of conversation.
The quickest way to shut him down on monster hunter controls being objectively terrible, is saying "then it goes the same for resident evil 4". I hate both and would be willing to call them shitty on those grounds. Keep in mind, noone was there to give a reason why there was anything positive about monster hunter. It's not dan's or anyones job to learn why someone else likes something, he straight says it's ok to like it and thats their business.
Why? Why would it ever be assumed someone is stating an objective truth over an opinion?
Because they are video game reviewers, who have a job telling us if they think a game is a bad game or not.
"I think this is a bad game"
is a VERY different statement than
"I think this game is one I do not like."
Again, Dan doesn't think about others when he makes statements like that. He thinks "I don't like it, and I'm the best judge of everything, so it must be bad, or I'd like it."
He doesn't think "I don't enjoy this, but I bet other people would because it's still a well put together thing."
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It sucks for Monster Hunter and it sucks for ET the video game are two vastly different descriptions and your audience needs to be able to tell the difference
Dan thinks Monster Hunter is a bad game because he had a terrible time with it. If he was reviewing it he might make recommendations based on what he thinks certain people might like about it, but he's not, he's just talking about his experience on a podcast.
This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, the issue is with the useless preface of "in my opinion" before any statement someone makes.
Jesus. Christ.
Listen to one episode of Danswers. Or part of an episode of Danswers. Or somehow get a view of him that is not him purposefully exaggerating for entertainment value.
which, dan did
Giant Bomb is just about the last source anyone should consult to get their mythical "Objective Video Game Review", and that isn't an accident.
Well thank goodness they spent like 15 minutes discussing at length why Dan hates monster hunter so that people could tell the difference.
Or you could explain why I should? Why is he purposefully exaggerating qualities that make me want to listen to him less? That's entertainment value? I am confused. I honestly don't know what you're referring to. I definitely think Dan can be sympathetic towards others, just not empathetic. At least based on what i've heard from watching Quicklooks and the Bombcast. He seems to be able to say "oh, that's terrible for that person" but not "I understand why someone might like something I don't"
edit: I am aware when Dan says "this game is bad" it's his opinion. I'm saying he's still dumb for phrasing it that way, since he's claiming it as objective fact when it clearly isn't. Just because we all know what he meant doesn't mean he did it correctly.
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No, it's clearly his opinion.
Giant Bomb "does bits". That's their thing. Everyone has their "style". It's all right if you don't like Dan's style, which happens to be one long, stretched out "half-bit" which is half truth, half exaggeration of his Midwestern tendencies. I understand if people don't like it.
I happen to really like how Dan works with the Giant Bomb crew, which leads to listening to and watching stuff that shows a side to him he doesn't put forth in the podcasts and many of their other videos. Maybe I should have been more diplomatic in my previous post. I'm not demanding that you search out more stuff to 'find the truth in Dan'. I'm suggesting you may learn more about the man if you view him outside of the entertainment context.
When he said the North Korea/McDonald's bit, I laughed because it's perfectly clear to me that a thirty year old man who works with and on the Internet and has done so for years understands what's up withNorth Korea.
That don't count 'cause Jeff's funny and also correct.
But if you told me there is a McDonald's in North Korea I would believe you
Really? Man it's been forever in my wishlist but I never got around to it. Hell, I don't want to buy any more PS3 games tbh!