Everytime I go "You know, Dan's not that crazy" he says stuff like "There's no McDonalds in North Korea?" No Dan, you can't hop out and grab a burger from a fast food joint in the super totalitarian evil starving country. Saying "i bet I could" sure feels insulting to all the starving oppressed people who are struggling to live over there.
And how he treats Monster Hunter. Obviously the game has some merit or so many people wouldn't still be enjoying it. I don't disagree that it has some bad design elements. Like, show me what the hell the little monster I'm supposed to be finding looks like, sure. But then Dan throws down "it's a bad game" and calls it garbage and whatnot. They have to mediate down to Dan saying "I don't like it, therefore it is a bad game to me" but holy shit why do they have to do that for a grown ass man. Dan acts like a 12 year old fanboy who can't appreciate anything he doesn't personally enjoy. I don't really like cigars but I understand why some people do. Dan doesn't like something and has zero capacity for empathy for why someone else might enjoy it.
He just has no maturity. There is no empathy for others in him. He's all annoyed at slackline people and hippies in the park, but then in the last podcast said he didn't like Unicycles or whatever, but it'd be fine in the park! Except it wouldn't be, because he hates that too, but doesn't realize he's being crazy there.
LIke, he seems like a perfectly friendly fellow but man sometimes it is infuriating to listen to him.
Jesus. Christ.
Listen to one episode of Danswers. Or part of an episode of Danswers. Or somehow get a view of him that is not him purposefully exaggerating for entertainment value.
Or you could explain why I should? Why is he purposefully exaggerating qualities that make me want to listen to him less? That's entertainment value? I am confused. I honestly don't know what you're referring to. I definitely think Dan can be sympathetic towards others, just not empathetic. At least based on what i've heard from watching Quicklooks and the Bombcast. He seems to be able to say "oh, that's terrible for that person" but not "I understand why someone might like something I don't"
edit: I am aware when Dan says "this game is bad" it's his opinion. I'm saying he's still dumb for phrasing it that way, since he's claiming it as objective fact when it clearly isn't. Just because we all know what he meant doesn't mean he did it correctly.
Giant Bomb "does bits". That's their thing. Everyone has their "style". It's all right if you don't like Dan's style, which happens to be one long, stretched out "half-bit" which is half truth, half exaggeration of his Midwestern tendencies. I understand if people don't like it.
I happen to really like how Dan works with the Giant Bomb crew, which leads to listening to and watching stuff that shows a side to him he doesn't put forth in the podcasts and many of their other videos. Maybe I should have been more diplomatic in my previous post. I'm not demanding that you search out more stuff to 'find the truth in Dan'. I'm suggesting you may learn more about the man if you view him outside of the entertainment context.
When he said the North Korea/McDonald's bit, I laughed because it's perfectly clear to me that a thirty year old man who works with and on the Internet and has done so for years understands what's up withNorth Korea.
See, I thought I was listening to a podcast where people were sharing genuine opinions and discussing video games, and like friends do, occasionally riff and do funny things. Dan's reluctance to try other foods, inability to understand why other people do things the way they do, and general attitude is a bit?
Like, if you think that's all a bit, then sure it makes a lot more sense. I actually like what I perceive as Dan's style. He's kinda carefree, doesn't really let other people get to him, etc. But his assertions that certain things are bad and there's no reason anyone should like them rub me the wrong way. Jeff annoys me sometimes too, but he at least is clear about it. He doesn't like Majora's Mask and has stated his reasons why plainly, but recognizes why other people might disagree with him. Dan doesn't do the part where he recognizes the merits in something. But apparently that's all just a character, not actually Dan Ryckert, the person, who definitely did go to college and didn't get a degree despite apparently doing very little work.
edit: And I would be willing to bet actual money that Dan truly didn't realize there wouldn't be a McDonalds in North Korea. Is this Poe's Law in effect here? I'm incredulous because someone surely can't be that ignorant about the world. But @AvalonGuard thinks it's amusing because it must be a bit he's doing, not that he's actually so ignorant about North Korea.
edit 2: All that said, Metal Gear Scanlon is my favorite thing GB has done and I really enjoy Dan there and whenever he is excitedly talking about a game is generally pretty great. But I would gladly trade Dan away in exchange for Vinny being back on the bombcast.
All that said, Metal Gear Scanlon is my favorite thing GB has done and I really enjoy Dan there and whenever he is excitedly talking about a game is generally pretty great. But I would gladly trade Dan away in exchange for Vinny being back on the bombcast.
I'd trade him away for a podcast that was Jeff/Brad/Drew/Jason most of the time and once a month or so Jeff/Brad/Drew/Vinny.
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
holy christ this thread. Dan is fine, deal with it.
Now lets talk about something that is legitimately infuriating over the past two weeks of Bombcasts and that is their total misinformation on how Star Citizen works. It bugs me because they are completely wrong on how much it costs and what you get for that money and they are passing on that wrong information to anybody who listens to the show, and this is something that it would take less than 5 minutes for any of them to check on the website. At this point in the funding the game costs $45. That's it. You get EVERYTHING for that $45, you don't have to buy anything else. And that price has been slowly going up since the kickstarter two years ago, if you were any early backer it cost $30. for EVERYTHING.
Also no, Cities: XXL and Cities: Skylines are not made by the same publishing company, what the fuck is Brad talking about. (but yes it's really weird they both called their game Cities: something)
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
All ships are (supposedly) obtainable using in-game systems
Mario Party Party stopped being funny to me sometime towards the end of 2. It's just painfully annoying to watch the full thing. You can rip out the highlights, but as a whole it just makes me feel shitty.
dan ryckert is a dumb stupid idiot moron who doesn't know anything and giant bomb should fire him
Woah, didn't notice you building troops down in Australia this whole time.
Good turn.
No I don't.
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reVerseAttack and Dethrone GodRegistered Userregular
Is Star Citizen the big Kickstarter scam where they get people to pay tens of thousands of dollars for space ships, or am I thinking about something else?
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Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
no, you get eveyrthing. Every single thing you can buy for real money is in the game and you can get them all in the game for free by playing the game.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
no, you get eveyrthing. Every single thing you can buy for real money is in the game and you can get them all in the game for free by playing the game.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Isn't there an insurance thing where only ships purchased before a certain point, months ago, have unlimited Insurence?
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
no, you get eveyrthing. Every single thing you can buy for real money is in the game and you can get them all in the game for free by playing the game.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Isn't there an insurance thing where only ships purchased before a certain point, months ago, have unlimited Insurence?
Early backers got insurance on their ships, which only means your ship and cargo will be covered in case it gets blown up during a fight or hijacked or something. You also need to pay for things like fuel, cargo for trade, landing fees, and tariffs. It's all a part of the world they're building.
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
no, you get eveyrthing. Every single thing you can buy for real money is in the game and you can get them all in the game for free by playing the game.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Isn't there an insurance thing where only ships purchased before a certain point, months ago, have unlimited Insurence?
Early backers got insurance on their ships, which only means your ship and cargo will be covered in case it gets blown up during a fight or hijacked or something. You also need to pay for things like fuel, cargo for trade, landing fees, and tariffs. It's all a part of the world they're building.
i think these days new backers get 2 months of free insurance.
Chris Roberts is on record as saying he regrets the entire insurance system and thinks it was a mistake. Apparently it will be extremely trivial to keep your ship insured if you weren't a backer once the game is live.
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AtomicTofuShe's a straight-up supervillain, yoRegistered Userregular
I'm just saying, it's that type of space sim. There's going to be a bunch of upkeep costs and insurance is one of them.
Is Star Citizen the big Kickstarter scam where they get people to pay tens of thousands of dollars for space ships, or am I thinking about something else?
No, that's the one. The idiots who spend that much have no one to blame but themselves, though.
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
no, you get eveyrthing. Every single thing you can buy for real money is in the game and you can get them all in the game for free by playing the game.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Isn't there an insurance thing where only ships purchased before a certain point, months ago, have unlimited Insurence?
Early backers got insurance on their ships, which only means your ship and cargo will be covered in case it gets blown up during a fight or hijacked or something. You also need to pay for things like fuel, cargo for trade, landing fees, and tariffs. It's all a part of the world they're building.
i think these days new backers get 2 months of free insurance.
Chris Roberts is on record as saying he regrets the entire insurance system and thinks it was a mistake. Apparently it will be extremely trivial to keep your ship insured if you weren't a backer once the game is live.
Well you don't get everything. You get the starter ship, right? Extra ships cost more money. You can buy them piecemeal I thought? I backed at a pretty basic level so I have a decent starter ship but that was ages ago and I haven't looked into it recently.
no, you get eveyrthing. Every single thing you can buy for real money is in the game and you can get them all in the game for free by playing the game.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Isn't there an insurance thing where only ships purchased before a certain point, months ago, have unlimited Insurence?
Early backers got insurance on their ships, which only means your ship and cargo will be covered in case it gets blown up during a fight or hijacked or something. You also need to pay for things like fuel, cargo for trade, landing fees, and tariffs. It's all a part of the world they're building.
i think these days new backers get 2 months of free insurance.
Chris Roberts is on record as saying he regrets the entire insurance system and thinks it was a mistake. Apparently it will be extremely trivial to keep your ship insured if you weren't a backer once the game is live.
Couldn't he just yank out the insurance system?
Games not out yet.
I was thinking about that and I think he is worried about the community backlash that would generate from the 'perceived importance' of Lifetime Insurance (even if it's not actually important). They sort of backed themselves into a corner and I guess they are just trying to minimize it. Dangers of early crowdfunding, not every idea pans out!
They could take the 75 mil and run at any time. I don't think they will, but I also don't think there will ever actually be a game here. The content that's out barely even qualifies as content, and all they have planned for the next two years is more "modules" as far as I know.
Hardtarget, what are the GB guys wrong about regarding Star Citizen? You absolutely can buy extra ships still, can't you?
Saying you get "everything" for 45 isn't quite accurate. You can earn everything in-game, sure. But you don't start with much other than the basic starter thing for 45.
Hardtarget, what are the GB guys wrong about regarding Star Citizen? You absolutely can buy extra ships still, can't you?
Saying you get "everything" for 45 isn't quite accurate. You can earn everything in-game, sure. But you don't start with much other than the basic starter thing for 45.
the way they talk about it makes it seem like you literally need to put down hard cash for other ships or various modules, especially when they were comparing it to the not-decent kickstarter. I don't think they realize that the single player campaign, the persistent universe, all the various modes (FPS, etc), it's all just 1 thing that's connected and no ta bunch of different smaller things you buy.
Hardtarget, what are the GB guys wrong about regarding Star Citizen? You absolutely can buy extra ships still, can't you?
Saying you get "everything" for 45 isn't quite accurate. You can earn everything in-game, sure. But you don't start with much other than the basic starter thing for 45.
You get the privilege of witnessing the majesty of Star Citizen through the window of a shithouse starship.
Hardtarget, what are the GB guys wrong about regarding Star Citizen? You absolutely can buy extra ships still, can't you?
Saying you get "everything" for 45 isn't quite accurate. You can earn everything in-game, sure. But you don't start with much other than the basic starter thing for 45.
the way they talk about it makes it seem like you literally need to put down hard cash for other ships or various modules, especially when they were comparing it to the not-decent kickstarter. I don't think they realize that the single player campaign, the persistent universe, all the various modes (FPS, etc), it's all just 1 thing that's connected and no ta bunch of different smaller things you buy.
Yeah, but it makes absolutely no sense how any of that will work together and how they can all be up to snuff in a reasonable amount of time. It's insane feature creep, it takes AAA studios years to do just one of those things correctly.
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HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
They could take the 75 mil and run at any time. I don't think they will, but I also don't think there will ever actually be a game here. The content that's out barely even qualifies as content, and all they have planned for the next two years is more "modules" as far as I know.
uh.. you can certainly think that but.. have you played it? When the very first thing that came out was just you walking around a hanger deck looking at a ship you bought, sure it was barely anything, but there is a full online and offline dogfighting 'module' out now for players who have alpha access. It's fur sure a real game/real content and you can see a shitload of work that went into it, in fact a massive overhaul of it just launched on the test servers with lots of new ships and content.
HardtargetThere Are Four LightsVancouverRegistered Userregular
They release massive monthly reports of all the things their various internal studios are working on every month specifically to address those kinds of concerns. They're shockingly detailed and I'm not worried about the game not coming out (who knows how long it'll take though). I just mostly want Squadron 42 anyways (wing commander successor), and if all the Privateer successor stuff works as advertised, well that's just icing on my cake.
The people donating 10,000 dollars are insane but if they really loved wing commander, have a ton of disposable income, and want to help fund a sequel to it, that's fine by me as I'll then be a able to play it for a fraction of the price.
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See, I thought I was listening to a podcast where people were sharing genuine opinions and discussing video games, and like friends do, occasionally riff and do funny things. Dan's reluctance to try other foods, inability to understand why other people do things the way they do, and general attitude is a bit?
Like, if you think that's all a bit, then sure it makes a lot more sense. I actually like what I perceive as Dan's style. He's kinda carefree, doesn't really let other people get to him, etc. But his assertions that certain things are bad and there's no reason anyone should like them rub me the wrong way. Jeff annoys me sometimes too, but he at least is clear about it. He doesn't like Majora's Mask and has stated his reasons why plainly, but recognizes why other people might disagree with him. Dan doesn't do the part where he recognizes the merits in something. But apparently that's all just a character, not actually Dan Ryckert, the person, who definitely did go to college and didn't get a degree despite apparently doing very little work.
edit: And I would be willing to bet actual money that Dan truly didn't realize there wouldn't be a McDonalds in North Korea. Is this Poe's Law in effect here? I'm incredulous because someone surely can't be that ignorant about the world. But @AvalonGuard thinks it's amusing because it must be a bit he's doing, not that he's actually so ignorant about North Korea.
edit 2: All that said, Metal Gear Scanlon is my favorite thing GB has done and I really enjoy Dan there and whenever he is excitedly talking about a game is generally pretty great. But I would gladly trade Dan away in exchange for Vinny being back on the bombcast.
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Which says a lot more about McDonald's than it does anything else.
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I'd trade him away for a podcast that was Jeff/Brad/Drew/Jason most of the time and once a month or so Jeff/Brad/Drew/Vinny.
Now lets talk about something that is legitimately infuriating over the past two weeks of Bombcasts and that is their total misinformation on how Star Citizen works. It bugs me because they are completely wrong on how much it costs and what you get for that money and they are passing on that wrong information to anybody who listens to the show, and this is something that it would take less than 5 minutes for any of them to check on the website. At this point in the funding the game costs $45. That's it. You get EVERYTHING for that $45, you don't have to buy anything else. And that price has been slowly going up since the kickstarter two years ago, if you were any early backer it cost $30. for EVERYTHING.
Also no, Cities: XXL and Cities: Skylines are not made by the same publishing company, what the fuck is Brad talking about. (but yes it's really weird they both called their game Cities: something)
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No, you see he is great on the podcast.
Your turn.
All ships are (supposedly) obtainable using in-game systems
Steam
Woah, didn't notice you building troops down in Australia this whole time.
Good turn.
If you want to fund extra to help spur development they are rewarding that by giving you extra ships as soon as you login to the game, but you don't have to buy any of it and nothing is exclusive to real money. That's the whole point.
Is he that bodybuilder fella who writes news stories
Isn't there an insurance thing where only ships purchased before a certain point, months ago, have unlimited Insurence?
That's Patrick Klipklop.
No, that's Brad, who's leaving.
I thought it was Brad Muir.
Early backers got insurance on their ships, which only means your ship and cargo will be covered in case it gets blown up during a fight or hijacked or something. You also need to pay for things like fuel, cargo for trade, landing fees, and tariffs. It's all a part of the world they're building.
Steam
Who's John Muir?
No, Brad John.
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Didn't Keanu Reeves play him in that revenge movie?
Chris Roberts is on record as saying he regrets the entire insurance system and thinks it was a mistake. Apparently it will be extremely trivial to keep your ship insured if you weren't a backer once the game is live.
Steam
No, that's the one. The idiots who spend that much have no one to blame but themselves, though.
Couldn't he just yank out the insurance system?
Games not out yet.
you're getting in on the ground floor man, star citizen is the future
Saying you get "everything" for 45 isn't quite accurate. You can earn everything in-game, sure. But you don't start with much other than the basic starter thing for 45.
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You get the privilege of witnessing the majesty of Star Citizen through the window of a shithouse starship.
Yeah, but it makes absolutely no sense how any of that will work together and how they can all be up to snuff in a reasonable amount of time. It's insane feature creep, it takes AAA studios years to do just one of those things correctly.
they have a lot of money
The people donating 10,000 dollars are insane but if they really loved wing commander, have a ton of disposable income, and want to help fund a sequel to it, that's fine by me as I'll then be a able to play it for a fraction of the price.