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The Boston Snow Situation - Transportation, The City, and You

zerzhulzerzhul Registered User, Moderator mod
edited March 2015 in PAX East
I don't have great info on this, but other people do. Let's please consolidate information on the weather, the T, other public transit, and things of that nature to one thread.

Some useful resources:
Elzemere wrote: »
Once in the city, do yourself a favor and follow @mbta_alerts on twitter.
Its an unofficial, but a good and widely used tool tweeting out every timely service event across the system.

If you want something more official and customized, head over to http://www.mbta.com/rider_tools/t_alerts/. There you can customize what lines you want to get updates on. You can also receive alerts via email or sms. You will have to submit an email or phone number for this service.

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  • WolfieeWolfiee Web/Graphic Designer and Illustrator MARegistered User regular
    You might want to have an alternate plan. The MBTA just announced that the T service won't be fully restored for another 30 days (if we don't get another major blizzard in that time). You can check the website of one of our location news stations for the specifics on what is and what isn't available, but I just wanted to give a heads up for those who were relying on it (like myself and friends) for PAX East!

    Lots of snow here in MA :)

    http://www.wcvb.com/weather/mbta-to-provide-limited-service-monday/31286350?utm_source=Social&utm_medium=FBPAGE&utm_campaign=WCVB Channel 5 Boston - wcvb5&Content Type=Story&linkId=12388223

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  • rtm416rtm416 NYRegistered User regular
    If I follow this correctly, the Silver line will be running on Mon-Thurs schedule 7 days a week, yes?

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  • ElzemereElzemere BostonRegistered User regular
    rtm416 wrote: »
    If I follow this correctly, the Silver line will be running on Mon-Thurs schedule 7 days a week, yes?
    Thats what Im getting from it, yes.

  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    I was just thinking that maybe we should have an MBTA thread providing updates to service.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • djlybsdjlybs Slayer of the Datas Boston MetroRegistered User regular
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    I was just thinking that maybe we should have an MBTA thread providing updates to service.
    Good idea, maybe make it a little more broader around transportation (i.e. parking, shuttles and the T). With the f******g 7ft we got since Jan 27, just getting around the seaport/convention center and south boston is going to suck.

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  • djlybsdjlybs Slayer of the Datas Boston MetroRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    With 7ft (2.13m for our metric friends) of snow in last 23 or so days, getting around Boston has become a huge pain.

    So, this is a thread to help everyone who drives, takes rail, or buses to best navigate the Hoth-like world Boston has become.

    Basic Advice

    - Be patient with the transportation situation. You will get to where you want to go, but it does no any good if we are all freaking out and attacking people (snow rage)
    - Leave about an hour earlier than you would think to leave as it gives you enough time if you run into issues.

    Driving Specific Issues (as of 2/17/2015)

    - South Boston (i.e. 2 minutes outside of the Expo Center) has been reconfigured and will remain so until long after PAX. Here is the link with the details: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2015/02/14/significant-street-changes-announced-for-south-boston/
    - Boston Streets are most likely going to be narrowed by the snow drifts measuring 5ft+
    - Parking might be affected too.

    MBTA Specific Issues (as of 2/17/2015)

    - Red Line between Andrew and Braintree/Ashmont are not buses and not Subways.
    - Green Line is only running between Lechmere and Kenmore
    - Orange Line is buses South of Back Bay and north of Sullivan
    - Buses will most likely be delayed
    - Commuter Rail is operating with significant delays

    Will update when closer to Pax

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  • millerm277millerm277 Registered User regular
    djlybs wrote: »
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    I was just thinking that maybe we should have an MBTA thread providing updates to service.
    Good idea, maybe make it a little more broader around transportation (i.e. parking, shuttles and the T). With the f******g 7ft we got since Jan 27, just getting around the seaport/convention center and south boston is going to suck.

    Well, it's now the "South Boston one way system", they gave up on trying to plow wide enough for 2 cars and have just posted signs making the streets one way instead.

    Anyway, the Red and Orange lines are the ones with the old fleets that have really gotten abused and which have had significant operational issues in both tracks and trains. Those are the lines I would expect to not be at full capacity. I would expect the Green and Blue lines to be working fine by the time of the event (unless there's a snowstorm within the week of PAX, not much you can do then). Blue and Green Line D-Branch are back to running near-normal already, lacking some peak capacity but that's it. Silver Line is running normally and will certainly continue to.

    IMO Friday AM is the only time that I think might be problematic.

  • Sgt.MaysSgt.Mays Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    My hotel is on the C branch of the green line, hopefully it will be fine to at least get me to Park street, that part of the Red line is underground would it be working most likely?.

    Shuttles might be a challenge also, if MBTA is limited shuttles will be really crowded. Best to get out really early i guess.

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  • TennbergTennberg Boston, MARegistered User regular
    djlybs wrote: »
    MBTA Specific Issues (as of 2/17/2015)

    - Red Line between Andrew and Braintree/Ashmont are not buses and not Subways.
    - Green Line is only running between Lechmere and Kenmore
    - Orange Line is buses South of Back Bay and north of Sullivan
    - Buses will most likely be delayed
    - Commuter Rail is operating with significant delays

    Will update when closer to Pax

    Correction for Green Line service on D branch:

    http://www.mbta.com/rider_tools/transit_updates/?ttype=subway&route=Green+Line#details

    Along the D branch, limited trolley service will run in both directions between Riverside and Park Street.

  • iltailta Registered User regular
    @AMTRAKNEC on Twitter has updates on trains. Notably they have "replaced" the 448/449 Albany-to-Boston with shuttle busses in the face of a storm tomorrow. So, you know, that might be a thing to watch.

  • ElzemereElzemere BostonRegistered User regular
    Once in the city, do yourself a favor and follow @mbta_alerts on twitter.
    Its an unofficial, but a good and widely used tool tweeting out every timely service event across the system.

    If you want something more official and customized, head over to http://www.mbta.com/rider_tools/t_alerts/. There you can customize what lines you want to get updates on. You can also receive alerts via email or sms. You will have to submit an email or phone number for this service.

  • cabbie98cabbie98 Registered User regular
    How are the sidewalks downtown? I have a hotel in Chinatown and am fine with the ~30 minute walk in normal conditions but I'm wondering if the majority of the sidewalks will be blocked due to the snow.

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  • cocowoushicocowoushi Registered User regular
    Crud. I was hoping on driving up and parking at Quincy Adams like I usually do. I'm coming from Rhode Island Saturday-Monday. Can anyone recommend any other option? Possible other stations to park at? I don't mind driving in closer to Boston but I don't know how the other station lots are further in.

  • revengeancefulrevengeanceful Registered User regular
    @cabbie98 - I just spent the weekend in the Financial District and for the most part the sidewalks were fine, but not great. A bit snowy still in spots, but generally okay. Boots would probably be nice to have, but not 100% necessary.

  • gigabraingigabrain Some guy...yknow New HampshireRegistered User regular
    djlybs wrote: »
    - Parking might be affected too.

    If I'm not mistaken, the BCEC lots and surounding garages are alternative parking for residents of South Boston during snow emergencies. That policy may take precidence over PAX parking if there does happen to be more snow during the weekend.

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  • Sgt.MaysSgt.Mays Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    I guess Uber/Lyft is a no go as they will have surge pricing yes? (do not want to pay a ton of money if i can avoid it), i guess either Taxi's or the hotel shuttle.

    But given the forcast from accuweather, there looks to be many warm days some with rain to help melt all the snow and get MBTA back to full if it is not already by then.

    Also i wonder how the Mayor, or state offices will think about that 30 days my guess is it may not be that long. (but who knows)

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  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    In regards to sidewalks, the general rule should be to stick to the main streets. The sidewalks on the main streets are (for the most part) pretty well kept. Side street's will be terrible to deal with and while it is a more direct route, I guarantee that it will take you longer and be more dangerous.
    cocowoushi wrote: »
    Crud. I was hoping on driving up and parking at Quincy Adams like I usually do. I'm coming from Rhode Island Saturday-Monday. Can anyone recommend any other option? Possible other stations to park at? I don't mind driving in closer to Boston but I don't know how the other station lots are further in.
    I think it is best not to completely react right now. We just had another blizzard and things are worse than before. PAX is still in a couple of weeks, so there could be a good amount of improvements.

    Coming from RI, the Braintree line is your best shot. Anything further into Boston past North Quincy and you're better off just driving all the way in. Since you're coming in Saturday through Monday, I think the shuttle bus system will work fine for you, especially on Monday since you'll be travelling the opposite direction of rush hour. If you are staying at a hotel in Boston, this should still suffice.

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  • cocowoushicocowoushi Registered User regular
    Le_Goat wrote: »
    I think it is best not to completely react right now. We just had another blizzard and things are worse than before. PAX is still in a couple of weeks, so there could be a good amount of improvements.

    Coming from RI, the Braintree line is your best shot. Anything further into Boston past North Quincy and you're better off just driving all the way in. Since you're coming in Saturday through Monday, I think the shuttle bus system will work fine for you, especially on Monday since you'll be travelling the opposite direction of rush hour. If you are staying at a hotel in Boston, this should still suffice.

    Thank you. I might end up tacking on an extra night on Friday and just heading up after work, since I'm going to be staying at a hostel anyways. But the news about Braintree is appreciated.

  • WolfieeWolfiee Web/Graphic Designer and Illustrator MARegistered User regular
    Yeah, Boston is in a state of disaster currently and the snow doesn't seem to be letting down any time soon (currently getting 5" here in Plymouth with a potential large storm Sunday). Hopefully by PAX, it might let up, but it snows all the way through March a lot of the time here so it's good to plan.

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  • djlybsdjlybs Slayer of the Datas Boston MetroRegistered User regular
    Wolfiee wrote: »
    Yeah, Boston is in a state of disaster currently and the snow doesn't seem to be letting down any time soon (currently getting 5" here in Plymouth with a potential large storm Sunday). Hopefully by PAX, it might let up, but it snows all the way through March a lot of the time here so it's good to plan.
    Actually, Sunday is looking like rain and temps in the upper 30's to 40... btw I have never been more excited about rain in my life :) ... yes the roads will get icy by ice can be melted

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  • gunadicgunadic Registered User regular
    I work in the Seaport. Parking around here has been kind of a shit show. Combining the fact that many parking lots are already disappearing due to development, throw in the snow and you've got a lot of grumpy people... and not much parking especially for Friday.

  • BinaryPieBinaryPie Registered User regular
    Sgt.Mays wrote: »
    Also i wonder how the Mayor, or state offices will think about that 30 days my guess is it may not be that long. (but who knows)

    Thing is, it isn't just a question of clearing snow. Significant portions of the train fleet have actually been damaged by the snow. It takes alot of time and money to restore these to service.This image explains some of the issues.

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  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Another good resource that I use is http://whereisthet.com/. Aside from the Green Line (currently no tracking available for those lines), it does a pretty good job at providing accurate information as to where the current trains are at and how much time there is until a train arrives at the next station.

    Here's a screenshot to get an idea:
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  • ki001ki001 Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    We are going to be coming by amtrak from NYC (Penn station), is there anything we need to know? we did take a trip to Penn station over this past weekend, seems like everything was going fine.

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  • Le_GoatLe_Goat Frechified Goat Person BostonRegistered User regular
    ki001 wrote: »
    We are going to be coming by amtrak from NYC (Penn station), is there anything we need to know? we did take a trip to Penn station over this past weekend, seems like everything was going fine.
    It's still too far away to tell. The next 10 days are going to bring two systems in. Allegedly Thursday's will be tiny, but no word on what exactly will happen on Sunday. Some say rain followed by snow, some say just snow... no one knows. Around the 25th, we'll all start to get an idea for what to expect for PAX week.

    I know it's a crappy answer, but literally no one has any idea what conditions will be like in the next week (both weather and transportation), let alone two. All I can really say is that if you are traveling into Boston, watch the weather like a hawk and prepare for the worst... but pretty please pray for the best because it just dawned on me that this weather could totally make PAX extremely difficult for me to get to/from each day. I'm considering sleeping at my work on an inflatable mattress over PAX weekend.

    While I agree that being insensitive is an issue, so is being oversensitive.
  • ElzemereElzemere BostonRegistered User regular
    Boots would probably be nice to have, but not 100% necessary.
    As someone who walks from the financial district to South Station every day, I couldn't disagree more. Almost every corner is now a sitting puddle of icy water and often going over/through these is the only way back onto the sidewalk.

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  • GhostDanGhostDan Registered User regular
    cocowoushi wrote: »
    Crud. I was hoping on driving up and parking at Quincy Adams like I usually do. I'm coming from Rhode Island Saturday-Monday. Can anyone recommend any other option? Possible other stations to park at? I don't mind driving in closer to Boston but I don't know how the other station lots are further in.

    You could park in Providence @ the Amtrak station and take one of the commuter rails up to Boston (or alternately use Amtrak)

  • GhostDanGhostDan Registered User regular
    ki001 wrote: »
    We are going to be coming by amtrak from NYC (Penn station), is there anything we need to know? we did take a trip to Penn station over this past weekend, seems like everything was going fine.

    I used to make that trip every other week (although I usually took the Acela and not the regional) Amtrak generally has a lot of delays when it's actually snowing but they have ways of dealing with the snow, and a system that doesn't get most of the issues that the MBTA subway trains get. Keep an eye on http://www.amtrak.com/service-alerts-and-notices they are usually good about keeping it up to date.

    As long as you are getting off at South Station and not Back Bay you should be good. From South Station you can jump on the Silver line and get to BCEC easily.

  • lauren0rzlauren0rz Registered User regular
    Elzemere wrote: »
    Boots would probably be nice to have, but not 100% necessary.
    As someone who walks from the financial district to South Station every day, I couldn't disagree more. Almost every corner is now a sitting puddle of icy water and often going over/through these is the only way back onto the sidewalk.

    So like... how boot-y are we talking? (Not to be confused with booty). I have pretty hardcore snow boots, however I'd rly like to keep my packing as light as possible and not have to lug 2 pairs of shoes around at PAX. I have a few pairs of "regular" boots though (see below). I was hoping to wear something better for my feet this year, siiiigh nature.

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  • coflroptercoflropter Registered User regular
    lauren0rz wrote: »
    Elzemere wrote: »
    Boots would probably be nice to have, but not 100% necessary.
    As someone who walks from the financial district to South Station every day, I couldn't disagree more. Almost every corner is now a sitting puddle of icy water and often going over/through these is the only way back onto the sidewalk.

    So like... how boot-y are we talking? (Not to be confused with booty). I have pretty hardcore snow boots, however I'd rly like to keep my packing as light as possible and not have to lug 2 pairs of shoes around at PAX. I have a few pairs of "regular" boots though (see below). I was hoping to wear something better for my feet this year, siiiigh nature.

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    Guy here,

    Typically a waterproof hiking boot will be fine, if you have something like that. The sidewalks shouldn't be like knee deep in snow. They're usually cleared, but wet or slushy.

    A hiking boot would be good because it will offer your feet enough protection, but still be comfortable to walk in.

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  • GhostDanGhostDan Registered User regular
    You can also put a bag over your feet to make sure any snow/ice/slush doesn't seep in. If you are walking at all there is going to be at least once where you are going to accidentally step in a icy puddle of slush. If you have newspaper delivery those bags the papers come in on rainy days work prefectly.

  • ElzemereElzemere BostonRegistered User regular

    coflropter wrote: »
    A hiking boot would be good because it will offer your feet enough protection, but still be comfortable to walk in.

    Agreed.
    My waterproof ankle-high Timberland's are more than enough.

  • TennbergTennberg Boston, MARegistered User regular
    Looking 10 days ahead, the prediction is 1-3 inches Wednesday (18th) into Thursday (19th), 3-5 inches Sunday (22nd) into Monday (23rd), about an inch on Wednesday (25th), and another bout of snow on Friday (27th) (no estimate yet). It looks like no days in the 40s at least through the 27th.

  • BigDumbHippyBigDumbHippy Registered User regular
    Everybody bring a Hair dryer lets melt this snow

  • gigabraingigabrain Some guy...yknow New HampshireRegistered User regular
    Everybody bring a Hair dryer lets melt this snow

    Do you want the city to flood...because that's how the city floods...

    Come to think of it, there's gonna be flooding this year.

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  • djlybsdjlybs Slayer of the Datas Boston MetroRegistered User regular
    Tennberg wrote: »
    Looking 10 days ahead, the prediction is 1-3 inches Wednesday (18th) into Thursday (19th), 3-5 inches Sunday (22nd) into Monday (23rd), about an inch on Wednesday (25th), and another bout of snow on Friday (27th) (no estimate yet). It looks like no days in the 40s at least through the 27th.
    From where are you getting your forecasts? Both accuweather.com and weather.com are saying ice to rain highs somewhere in the upper 30's to the low 40's and for the next two days it is just snow showers (i.e. now real accumulation). I know it is hard to believe but we may be done with the major snow storms for the season....#fingerscrossed

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    djlybs wrote: »
    Tennberg wrote: »
    Looking 10 days ahead, the prediction is 1-3 inches Wednesday (18th) into Thursday (19th), 3-5 inches Sunday (22nd) into Monday (23rd), about an inch on Wednesday (25th), and another bout of snow on Friday (27th) (no estimate yet). It looks like no days in the 40s at least through the 27th.
    From where are you getting your forecasts? Both accuweather.com and weather.com are saying ice to rain highs somewhere in the upper 30's to the low 40's and for the next two days it is just snow showers (i.e. now real accumulation). I know it is hard to believe but we may be done with the major snow storms for the season....#fingerscrossed

    I was using weather.com at the time I posted that.

  • LoonyEclipseLoonyEclipse WWHRD? Montreal, QCRegistered User regular
    Keep in mind...forecasts more than 5 days ahead may as well be scrying using finger bones and animal entrails....they're educated guesses.

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  • gigabraingigabrain Some guy...yknow New HampshireRegistered User regular
    If you want a really good look ahead at what might be forecasted, read into the forecast discussion from the National Weather Service office here. They do a pretty good job (if slightly technical) of putting info out there on what might be coming.

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  • BeastybunnyBeastybunny San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    I am flying in from San Francisco (we don't know snow) on the 26th. I always spend a week in Boston around PAX. I had planned on site seeing. May be a little less adventurous this time. I am hoping the underground is up and working as I rely on that. I despise cabs and the idea of riding with strangers with no guaranteed insurance (Uber and Lyft) is right out. I rely on my feet and a Charlie card. I'm glad this thread got started. I was just looking for some good information on what it is really like.

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