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    BeltaineBeltaine BOO BOO DOO DE DOORegistered User regular
    McFlynn wrote: »
    Beltaine wrote: »
    I bought a Wii U and I really like it, but it kept pissing me off that all the games they announced that I was interested in were for 3DS, so I bought a 3DS also.

    I'd much much much rather play on the Wii U. The second touch screen is already there, Nintendo.

    You're the one person they made Kirby Rainbow Curse for, then.

    Except I don't like Kirby. :(

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    Well, I was not saying what nintendo WILL do.
    I was saying what they SHOULD do.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    Cross-platform like that might actually be a moderately good enticement for third parties.

    Used to be, you could make a game for 360, PS3 and PC with a minimum of effort, or you could make a game for just the Wii (maybe PS2; good luck selling your game on either of them).

    If you can make one game for both Nintendo platforms, that's kind of attractive. Imagine if devs could do that right now for Wii U and 3DS. 3DS has sold well, and there's no reason not to release digitally on Wii U too while you're at it.

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Cross-platform like that might actually be a moderately good enticement for third parties.

    Used to be, you could make a game for 360, PS3 and PC with a minimum of effort, or you could make a game for just the Wii (maybe PS2; good luck selling your game on either of them).

    If you can make one game for both Nintendo platforms, that's kind of attractive. Imagine if devs could do that right now for Wii U and 3DS. 3DS has sold well, and there's no reason not to release digitally on Wii U too while you're at it.

    Considering third parties can't be arsed to port over the 360 and PS3 games they're still making to the Wii U, I don't think that'll be much of a hook. Hell, third-party development for the 3DS is almost as horrible as that for the Wii U as it is.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Well I did say "moderately good." Not even necessarily a system saver.

    Just mentally picturing, publish once and you're suddenly on two platforms that are guaranteed to work the same with no bugs due to having the same architecture, as opposed to just being on one platform...that's nice. It's one reason Android is nice, you publish once and now your game can be played on all these different models of phones by various companies.

    As for third party development being poor for 3DS...hey I'm just sayin', you go home and enjoy Etrian Odyssey 4 on your Wii U, Bravely Default on your Wii U, Monster Hunter 4 on your Wii U, Virtue's Last Reward on your Wii U, Shin Megami Tensei 4 on your Wii U, Super Street Fighter 4 on your Wii U...
    Turns out that every good third party 3DS game ends with a 4 apparently

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    Okay this is actually legit, maybe. A guy named stealth predicted the last nintendo direct and said a new one is coming, then deleted his tweet. There was also a press event in seattle that is embargoed until the date of the direct. Europe recently had a Splatoon related press event.


    Source(haha lawl): http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/71439313

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    cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
    Well I did say "moderately good." Not even necessarily a system saver.

    Just mentally picturing, publish once and you're suddenly on two platforms that are guaranteed to work the same with no bugs due to having the same architecture, as opposed to just being on one platform...that's nice. It's one reason Android is nice, you publish once and now your game can be played on all these different models of phones by various companies.

    Well, it's not quite that universal with Android -- developers still have to take into account all those different hardware configurations, and often new apps won't run well (or at all) on older Android phones.

    But yeah, having cross-compatibility between 3DS and Wii U would be nice.

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    There's only one thing I would want out of a Nintendo Direct that there's a pretty good chance won't happen. Ugh.

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    Venture IndustryVenture Industry Registered User regular
    Got my New 3DS XL charging cradle in yesterday it's super fly and convenient worth the $14 for sure.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Maz- wrote: »
    Okay this is actually legit, maybe. A guy named stealth predicted the last nintendo direct and said a new one is coming, then deleted his tweet. There was also a press event in seattle that is embargoed until the date of the direct. Europe recently had a Splatoon related press event.


    Source(haha lawl): http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/71439313

    That guy (https://twitter.com/Stealth___ ) has a lot of Nintendo Treehouse guys following him on Twitter, could be legit.

    Yeah I couldn't decide of I should post it, saw that and knew that it was likely legit.

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    physi_marcphysi_marc Positron Tracker In a nutshellRegistered User regular
    Nintendo has a new Direct every one to two months and Splatoon is coming out in May, so it would be more surprising if they didn't have a new Direct coming soon.

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    LBD_NytetraynLBD_Nytetrayn TorontoRegistered User regular
    Yeah, I did the Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player thing for years growing up, so it doesn't bother me-- not when I can get games I missed out on and/or are hard to find for cheap.

    For me, especially with GBA games, they are basically SNES games. I used to play SNES-quality games on the TV anyway. The GBA Player or Wii U VC is just doing that all over again. There's nothing particularly "handheld" or inferior about most GBA games! A lot of them were ports of SNES games anyway.

    Well, except for the music/sound...

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    darren66darren66 Registered User regular
    Talith wrote: »
    That's why they just contracted someone to do it for them.

    Doubtful. Most likely DeNa deal will only result in mobile games using Nintendo IP, I don't see Nintendo working with DeNa to fix their console online woes.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    darren66 wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    That's why they just contracted someone to do it for them.

    Doubtful. Most likely DeNa deal will only result in mobile games using Nintendo IP, I don't see Nintendo working with DeNa to fix their console online woes.

    Didn't they just announce a cross-console account system in collaboration with DeNA?

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    Maz-Maz- 飛べ Registered User regular
    darren66 wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    That's why they just contracted someone to do it for them.

    Doubtful. Most likely DeNa deal will only result in mobile games using Nintendo IP, I don't see Nintendo working with DeNa to fix their console online woes.

    Didn't they just announce a cross-console account system in collaboration with DeNA?

    Yep.

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    darren66darren66 Registered User regular
    Announcement != done and working

    That is all.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    darren66 wrote: »
    Talith wrote: »
    That's why they just contracted someone to do it for them.

    Doubtful. Most likely DeNa deal will only result in mobile games using Nintendo IP, I don't see Nintendo working with DeNa to fix their console online woes.

    Didn't they just announce a cross-console account system in collaboration with DeNA?

    Yep.

    I guess that kaputs darren's argument then!

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    darren66 wrote: »
    Announcement != done and working

    That is all.

    You just said you didn't think DeNA and Nintendo would work together to fix Nintendo's online.... which is exactly what they are doing.

    Edit: you must be real strong considering how easily you move the goal posts.

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    UncleSporkyUncleSporky Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    darren66 wrote: »
    Doubtful. Most likely DeNa deal will only result in mobile games using Nintendo IP, I don't see Nintendo working with DeNa to fix their console online woes.

    So, this was part of the press release, and they've gone on to re-confirm this a bit in different interviews and such:
    Nintendo and DeNA also plan to develop an online membership service that is accessible from smart devices, PC and Nintendo systems, such as the Nintendo 3DS portable system and the Wii U home console. The membership service, which is targeted to launch in the fall of 2015, will be built on DeNA's extensive experience and capabilities in online membership services.

    But then:
    darren66 wrote: »
    Announcement != done and working

    That is all.

    Somehow we got from "I don't think Nintendo will work with DeNa to fix their console online woes" to "because it hasn't happened now now now, it's likely that it will never happen, even though they just said it would happen."

    Nintendo doesn't really have "online woes" anyway. They've got account woes. You can't log into any system and download from your digital account, with access being revoked upon logout, like many other services including Steam. As a side effect of this, transfers from old systems to new are difficult. They don't have cloud saves either.

    However, outside of accounts they are pretty on-the-ball. They've got screenshot sharing and communities on Miiverse. You can upload screens directly to sites like tumblr and imgur. You can upload Mario Kart races to youtube. They've got demos. They support all forms of DLC and microtransactions. They've got apps for all the major video streaming services and they work well. Their Wii U web browser is awesome. They are very open and accepting of indie developers, to the point of it being a detriment because even crappy games can be easily released. Users can connect much more easily than in the Wii days, there are even two ways to friend people (directly in the list or via Miiverse). Online multiplayer simply works, third parties can offer all the features and matchmaking that they can on any other platform, but the problem is that they don't release those games for Wii U. Games like MH3U and Pokemon X/Y/OR/AS show that they can support basically anything devs want to do online.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    darren66 wrote: »
    Doubtful. Most likely DeNa deal will only result in mobile games using Nintendo IP, I don't see Nintendo working with DeNa to fix their console online woes.

    So, this was part of the press release, and they've gone on to re-confirm this a bit in different interviews and such:
    Nintendo and DeNA also plan to develop an online membership service that is accessible from smart devices, PC and Nintendo systems, such as the Nintendo 3DS portable system and the Wii U home console. The membership service, which is targeted to launch in the fall of 2015, will be built on DeNA's extensive experience and capabilities in online membership services.

    But then:
    darren66 wrote: »
    Announcement != done and working

    That is all.

    Somehow we got from "I don't think Nintendo will work with DeNa to fix their console online woes" to "because it hasn't happened now now now, it's likely that it will never happen, even though they just said it would happen."

    Nintendo doesn't really have "online woes" anyway. They've got account woes. You can't log into any system and download from your digital account, with access being revoked upon logout, like many other services including Steam. As a side effect of this, transfers from old systems to new are difficult. They don't have cloud saves either.

    However, outside of accounts they are pretty on-the-ball. They've got screenshot sharing and communities on Miiverse. You can upload screens directly to sites like tumblr and imgur. You can upload Mario Kart races to youtube. They've got demos. They support all forms of DLC and microtransactions. They've got apps for all the major video streaming services and they work well. Their Wii U web browser is awesome. They are very open and accepting of indie developers, to the point of it being a detriment because even crappy games can be easily released. Users can connect much more easily than in the Wii days, there are even two ways to friend people (directly in the list or via Miiverse). Online multiplayer simply works, third parties can offer all the features and matchmaking that they can on any other platform, but the problem is that they don't release those games for Wii U. Games like MH3U and Pokemon X/Y/OR/AS show that they can support basically anything devs want to do online.

    You can use html5 on the new 3ds browser to upload 3d images and screens to Dropbox now. You just have to make sure to view the site in desktop mode.

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    homogenizedhomogenized Registered User regular
    When you say "3D images and screens" are talking about the same functionality the old 3DS has (some but not all games let you take in-game screenshots that get saved to the system memory or SD card), just now compatible with one more site, or does the n3DS have a similar, "upload a shot of the currently suspended game to a hosting site" functionality that the Wii U does?

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    edited March 2015
    When you say "3D images and screens" are talking about the same functionality the old 3DS has (some but not all games let you take in-game screenshots that get saved to the system memory or SD card), just now compatible with one more site, or does the n3DS have a similar, "upload a shot of the currently suspended game to a hosting site" functionality that the Wii U does?

    It has that(3ds image share I think it's called), but only for tumblr, facebook, or twitter. Which means you'll be sharing the images publicly. Not cool when you want a 3D photo of your balls*. The old 3ds wouldnt load the dropbox desktop site, so the only option is the new 3ds's browser. Not sure if photobucket or imgur works, but I know dropbox does.

    *Not that I'm taking 3D photos of my balls or anything.

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    KupiKupi Registered User regular
    This idea of having a unified Nintendo platform that you publish to, supporting various form-factors (like "handheld portable device" vs "television-connected home gaming rig"), makes the way the latest Smash Brothers turned out kind of interesting in retrospect. There might have been some preliminary "what do we have to do to make the same game run on two different hardwares" work done in there.

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    FremFrem Registered User regular
    Kupi wrote: »
    This idea of having a unified Nintendo platform that you publish to, supporting various form-factors (like "handheld portable device" vs "television-connected home gaming rig"), makes the way the latest Smash Brothers turned out kind of interesting in retrospect. There might have been some preliminary "what do we have to do to make the same game run on two different hardwares" work done in there.

    SSB 3DS and WiiU are two completely different codebases, right? I feel like they said that in an interview somewhere.

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    SwashbucklerXXSwashbucklerXX Swashbucklin' Canuck Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Maz- wrote: »
    Okay this is actually legit, maybe. A guy named stealth predicted the last nintendo direct and said a new one is coming, then deleted his tweet. There was also a press event in seattle that is embargoed until the date of the direct. Europe recently had a Splatoon related press event.


    Source(haha lawl): http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/71439313

    That guy (https://twitter.com/Stealth___ ) has a lot of Nintendo Treehouse guys following him on Twitter, could be legit.
    Highly unlikely to be legit. Guy is a professional RPG site troll (though I suppose there's a chance he's gotten some ins somewhere in the year or two since the site I work for banned him).

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    TDawgTDawg Registered User regular
    Frem wrote: »
    Kupi wrote: »
    This idea of having a unified Nintendo platform that you publish to, supporting various form-factors (like "handheld portable device" vs "television-connected home gaming rig"), makes the way the latest Smash Brothers turned out kind of interesting in retrospect. There might have been some preliminary "what do we have to do to make the same game run on two different hardwares" work done in there.

    SSB 3DS and WiiU are two completely different codebases, right? I feel like they said that in an interview somewhere.

    I think they were speaking from the standpoint of what the hardware is actually capable of, and having to tune both experiences to be similar. Similar architecture would just make this even easier, though there would still be additional development for extra resources and the like.

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    Handsome CostanzaHandsome Costanza Ask me about 8bitdo RIP Iwata-sanRegistered User regular
    Maz- wrote: »
    Okay this is actually legit, maybe. A guy named stealth predicted the last nintendo direct and said a new one is coming, then deleted his tweet. There was also a press event in seattle that is embargoed until the date of the direct. Europe recently had a Splatoon related press event.


    Source(haha lawl): http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/71439313

    That guy (https://twitter.com/Stealth___ ) has a lot of Nintendo Treehouse guys following him on Twitter, could be legit.
    Highly unlikely to be legit. Guy is a professional RPG site troll (though I suppose there's a chance he's gotten some ins somewhere in the year or two since the site I work for banned him).

    He did get the last one right.

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    EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    Fwiw, if they released a Super 3DS Player for the Wii U, I'd go buy the two of them right now just to play my 3DS stuff in my livingroom without craning my neck. Maybe the Gameboy player didn't live up to the Super Gameboy's legacy and that's why they haven't done it yet?

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    ANYWAYS!
    I made myself stop playing pokemon and finally beat link between worlds... such a great game. Such a sweet ending.

    Now I'm deep into Ocarina of Time 3D, and for the first time I'm reeeeally playing OoT. First time I ever got past Jabu Jabu and first time I became old Link.
    Holy fuck this is REALLY that good.

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    HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
    I should start playing Ocarina of Time 3D, since I've pretty much wrapped up Omega Ruby.

    I just wish Crescent Isle would appear so I can catch Cresselia already. I've been loggin onto the internet and checking the mail almost every day. Such a bullshit event

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    maximumzeromaximumzero I...wait, what? New Orleans, LARegistered User regular
    I saw a 2-pack of Professor Layton & the Diabolical Box and Golden Sun: Dark Dawn at Wal-Mart yesterday for $15. Debating if I should go back and pick it up. (Assuming its even there.)

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    EinzelEinzel Registered User regular
    Heatwave wrote: »
    I should start playing Ocarina of Time 3D, since I've pretty much wrapped up Omega Ruby.

    I just wish Crescent Isle would appear so I can catch Cresselia already. I've been loggin onto the internet and checking the mail almost every day. Such a bullshit event

    I'm glad I don't suffer from the post game completionist syndrome. I beat the elite four (eventually) and probably never touch it again, unless I'm replaying. My gf, on the other hand, maxes out the game clock.

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    StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
    I got crescent island. I guess logging into PSS a lot helps refresh the mirage spots and things like that.
    The version specific legendaries are much more aggravating IMO.
    But the hidden pokes are far worse than legendaries. Heracross, Gorwlithe, mons like that.

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    TimFijiTimFiji Beast Lord Halfway2AnywhereRegistered User regular
    Heatwave wrote: »
    I should start playing Ocarina of Time 3D, since I've pretty much wrapped up Omega Ruby.

    I just wish Crescent Isle would appear so I can catch Cresselia already. I've been loggin onto the internet and checking the mail almost every day. Such a bullshit event

    I should play OoT 3D too. I wanted to play it in 3D for so long but it's got really deep 3D and a tight sweet spot but with my new 3DS it should be pretty spot on

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      StormwatcherStormwatcher Blegh BlughRegistered User regular
      It's not just (amazingly well done) 3D. The frame rate went up from 20 to a smooth 30, the textures and many models look a lot better. Link himself looks really great, and Sheik is now more feminine.

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      HeatwaveHeatwave Come, now, and walk the path of explosions with me!Registered User regular
      I just beat the Deku Tree level and smashed a room of pots in Hyrule Castle, and I really like the game so far. My only gripe is the camera.

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      Zerozaki IshikiZerozaki Ishiki Registered User regular
      The camera is vastly improved over the original. Also aiming isn't inverted only now. Options!

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      H*RH*R Registered User regular
      There's only one thing I would want out of a Nintendo Direct that there's a pretty good chance won't happen. Ugh.

      I want the same thing. I fear it may never come.

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      cloudeaglecloudeagle Registered User regular
      You know how Miyamoto is famous for upending the tea table? He did so with the New 3DS -- at the very last minute to boot.
      Nintendo’s New 3DS (reviewed here) employs a special eye-tracking sensor that improves the way the handheld conveys its eponymous 3D trick. But according to Iwata, the feature emerged as the device was about to head into production, prompting an eleventh hour scramble.

      “I think you’re probably familiar with the tales of how, in the late stages of development, Mr. Miyamoto always upends the tea table,” said Iwata. “So a similar thing happened this time. The hardware developers had designed a piece of hardware that they felt was at the final stage of prototyping, and they were bringing it to us for approval to begin moving forward with plans for manufacturing. But Mr. Miyamoto had seen that super-stable 3D just one week before, and he asked “Why aren’t we putting that in this system? If we don’t put this in it, there’s no point in making the system.”

      Iwata says he was personally asked many times by his internal engineers, “Are we really going to do this?”

      “But Nintendo is a company of Kyoto craftsman, and what we don’t want to do, is if we know we can make something better, we don’t want to leave that behind,” he explains. “So we were able to bring the super-stable 3D to reality by looking technically at what we can do to solve those challenges and finding those steps along the way to make it happen. This is where my background in technology is quite helpful, because it means that the engineers can’t trick me.”

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