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Dragon Ball Xenoverse: Have you let Goku in to your heart?

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  • vagrant_windsvagrant_winds Overworked Mysterious Eldritch Horror Hunter XX Registered User regular
    Never underestimate the west's love for Dragon Ball.

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  • KiTAKiTA Registered User regular
    Enlong wrote: »
    Considering Whis is said to be stronger than Beerus, I'm not sure how he could fight Freeza without resolving the conflict almost immediately.

    Return of F is breaking all logic center's. I mean, it makes sense, ish.

    HEAVY Return of F spoilers(Not involving conclusion)
    The hook that Frieza has never trained in his life, ever, like, not so much did anything actually taxing other than ride in his hoverchair and murder planets all his life until he met Goku is a GREAT idea.

    The fact that his power up, is, "And then he decided to train", is "Kenpachi decided to use two hands and actual sword form" levels of power up brilliance.

    However SSG Goku AND SSG Vegeta are both depicted in preview trailers.

    I mean sure he trained for 4 months but going from being jobbed out to Future Trunks, to being able to take on TWO Super Saiyan God's and POSSIBLY Whis is a HOLY SHIT jump.

    But yeah, I'm totally putting money on Goku and Vegeta failing and Whis putting him down/buying Goku and Vegeta time to kill time.
    Someone did a comparison between the Resurrection: F trailer and the pre-SSJ Namek fight, it's almost an exact duplicate of Vegeta getting his ass kicked and Goku showing up, only with the roles reversed. (If someone has that handy feel free to share, it might have been posted in here someplace?) Seriously it's a scene for scene recreation, with Frieza stomping on Vegeta's chest, Vegeta getting kicked into a hill, Goku looking down at him, etc.

    So I kinda expect Goku to get his ass kicked by Golden Frieza until Vegeta gets mad enough to go in, whereupon Vegeta will attain some even higher power level (True SSG? SSG2? ... SSJ4?) and beat down Frieza.

    This fits with Toriyama saying that he wanted the next movie to focus on Vegeta. It would also be an interesting bit of character development, if Vegeta goes in fighting not for his own pride, but because his rival/friend is in trouble or what have you.

    Although, er, I missed SSG Vegeta. Which trailer is he supposed to be in?

  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    Ravelle wrote: »
    They're sitting on a gold vain if they just integrate the upcoming dragonball movies and the rumored new television show with the game. Just release each DLC arc after each television Arc is finished.

    Hell, they can fix things they missed because of their time travel theme, releasing DLC of the parts we missed, like battles with Dabura, Babidi and all the transformations we missed. It doesn't have to be in chronicle order.

    Yeah, for a video game plot the time travel theme is perfect. We can go back and participate in all the super cool fights we love and wished were a thing we could be a part of and as new shows and mangas come out we can dive into those headlong and whup some ass alongside our favorite characters. They can expand this game basically forever until they get bored with it or it stops selling decently which I doubt will happen any time soon. Xenoverse is basically the professional version of the Earth's Special Forces HL1 mod I always wanted and I hope it has a long and healthy life.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    I always liked to think that Freeza and Cooler and Cold are too egocentric to bother with a family- or group-name of any kind.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    "What's your name?"
    "Freeza."
    "Of what family?"
    "The family."

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    The closest thing is the "Planet Trade Organisation", but that's actually a bunch of mooks Freeza will kill for fun.

  • SomeWarlockSomeWarlock Registered User regular
    Freeza/Cooler/King Cold's organization does name though not an very exciting/original name: "Planet Trade Organization". It does exactly what it says. Trade entire planets at a time.

    The lack of a family name is more just a DBZ thing(none of the characters have family names IIRC).

  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    PLA wrote: »
    The closest thing is the "Planet Trade Organisation", but that's actually a bunch of mooks Freeza will kill for fun.

    Well, besides Cooler and King Cold, there's Chilled.
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    As for family names, you can recognize your fellow family members by their food related name.

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  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Freeza/Cooler/King Cold's organization does name though not an very exciting/original name: "Planet Trade Organization". It does exactly what it says. Trade entire planets at a time.

    The lack of a family name is more just a DBZ thing(none of the characters have family names IIRC).

    Not true!

    Son is the Gohan/Goku/Gohan/Goten family surname. I'm pretty sure Pan is Son Pan as well.

  • Local H JayLocal H Jay Registered User regular
    I thought they were called "Frost Demons" but upon a quick google I guess that was a fan name. Still, I prefer that over "Frieza Race" or "Planet Trade Organization".

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    "Frieza's race" is my favourite. He's the ruler of the universe. Of course he's the gold-standard. Out of the way, chumps.

    Apparently Weekly Shonen Jump reports Pan as DLC-mentor.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Freeza/Cooler/King Cold's organization does name though not an very exciting/original name: "Planet Trade Organization". It does exactly what it says. Trade entire planets at a time.

    The lack of a family name is more just a DBZ thing(none of the characters have family names IIRC).

    Not true!

    Son is the Gohan/Goku/Gohan/Goten family surname. I'm pretty sure Pan is Son Pan as well.

    Nah, it's a fair estimate that most people in DB don't bother with family-names, and to my knowledge Pan is never called "Son". "Pan" and "gohan" are both very basic foods, but "Pan" also follows Satan's theme.

    Early on, many things didn't even establish categories, because the random freakazoids were just random freakazoids. Toriyama leaves things unnamed if he doesn't have a use for a name. And sometimes a pig is just a pig, even if he knows magic and speech.

    There are also countless smaller clans of weirdos, even on Earth. And other groups that seem to consist of just two or three individuals.

    In context, Freeza is nothing special. But he has the ego to wear being almost one of a kind.

  • DacDac Registered User regular
    In an old, old DBZ roleplay thing I was once a part of, they called Frieza's race 'Changelings', and that's always stuck with me.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Ravelle wrote: »
    PLA wrote: »
    The closest thing is the "Planet Trade Organisation", but that's actually a bunch of mooks Freeza will kill for fun.

    Well, besides Cooler and King Cold, there's Chilled.
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    As for family names, you can recognize your fellow family members by their food related name.

    Don't forget Kuriza.

    Enlong on
  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    So having seen precious little of Xenoverse...

    Are they using the Frieza spelling for his name, or is he seriously "Freeza the Frieza"?

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Refrigerador.

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  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Actually, in the original Dragon Ball series, doesn't Bulma make a comment about how weird it is that Goku has two names? It's kind of a thing that people just have the single name, and I don't think Bulma is ever officially called "Bulma Briefs" and that is just another fanon thing.

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  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    You mean Goku and Kakarotto? Because Kakarotto is his native Saiyan name and Goku is the name Gohan gave to him.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Nah, he means "Son". I don't remember much of the dialogue from those parts, though.

  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Got a full set of Dragonballs and made my first wish. I wished for an Ultimate, and am not disappointed. Shocking Death Ball is awesome.

  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Nah, he means "Son". I don't remember much of the dialogue from those parts, though.

    I always thought it was a poor translation from "San" but after looking it up this is what I found:
    Goku's full name, Son Goku, is the Japanese name for Sun Wukong, the main protagonist in the Chinese legend Journey to the West, on whom Goku is loosely based.

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  • chrisnlchrisnl Registered User regular
    Right, and he's basically the only character in the original Dragon Ball series to have two names, ie given name and family name. I'm 99% sure that Bulma comments on this when she first meets him. Well, well before Goku is retconned into being an alien we find out about Saiyans.

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  • korodullinkorodullin What. SCRegistered User regular
    So what are some good Z-souls for a Ki-using Saiyan? I've been trying to get the soul Vegito drops from the 6-star Frieza's Nightmare mission for days, but no luck.

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  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    korodullin wrote: »
    So what are some good Z-souls for a Ki-using Saiyan? I've been trying to get the soul Vegito drops from the 6-star Frieza's Nightmare mission for days, but no luck.

    Well, I suppose any of the Ki-regen souls is a safe choice.

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  • H3KnucklesH3Knuckles But we decide which is right and which is an illusion.Registered User regular
    KiTA wrote: »
    Man, wouldn't it be hilarious if they officially retconned GT as a tangent timeline through Xenoverse? The new movies have basically broken any chance of them fitting in now, anyway.
    Unless Goku and Vegeta's new SSJG form eventually ends up looking like SSJ4 at the end of Ressurection: F...

    I have mixed feelings about GT. While the series definitely didn't seem as strong as its predecessors (maybe better paced, it's been a long time), I do think there were a lot of cool ideas there. Stuff like there being a downside to the frequent usage of the dragonballs, the designs of the dark dragons, some other stuff. I really liked the design of SSJ4. I felt like it was a better power-up/transformation idea than just "same as before, but with different colored/more hair." If they wanted to crib the design as a newer/better SSJ-God, I feel like it would be appropriate for the ultimate form to be a blend of the two "natural" states of Saiyans (normal and Oozaru).

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  • Jay FoxfireJay Foxfire Registered User regular
    This is going to sound silly but are there factors other than what are mentioned in the hidden objectives? Like that one quest that has you have Krillian killed by Freeza. Is there any guide online that goes into detail as to how to get an Ultimate Finisher?

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  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    Here's a guide I found for the hidden challenges and unlocks.

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  • StragintStragint Do Not Gift Always DeclinesRegistered User regular
    Ultimate finishes are pure randomness. Each ultimate finish has something that sets it off but even then it is random chance that the ultimate finish will activate.

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Frieza doesn't even have a named empire. He's just an emperor. Of space. Of everything. Doesn't matter.

  • heenatoheenato Alice Leywind Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Frieza doesn't even have a named empire. He's just an emperor. Of space. Of everything. Doesn't matter.

    actually, he's the emperor of the planet trade organization, basically.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Hmm.

    Fighting Pose K + "Kakarooooooot!" = best combo?

  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    I always find it weird that enemies show up with powers that matches the progression of time. As if they're lined up from weak to powerful and await their turn.

    What if Babidi and Buu showed up instead of Raditz? Would be hilarious if Raditz decided to show up waaaay later and finds out everyone on planet earth is stronger than him.

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  • UnluckyUnlucky That's not meant to happen Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I always find it weird that enemies show up with powers that matches the progression of time. As if they're lined up from weak to powerful and await their turn.

    What if Babidi and Buu showed up instead of Raditz? Would be hilarious if Raditz decided to show up waaaay later and finds out everyone on planet earth is stronger than him.
    I was watching DB clips on youtube, and found one of Nappa having come back to Earth during GT times.(No idea why) Vegeta gives him one warning, and Nappa proceeds to attack him. He's wiped out in under 5 seconds by one of Vegetas weakest Ki blasts.

    That's about what I'd expect if that were to happen.

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  • EnlongEnlong Registered User regular
    Unlucky wrote: »
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I always find it weird that enemies show up with powers that matches the progression of time. As if they're lined up from weak to powerful and await their turn.

    What if Babidi and Buu showed up instead of Raditz? Would be hilarious if Raditz decided to show up waaaay later and finds out everyone on planet earth is stronger than him.
    I was watching DB clips on youtube, and found one of Nappa having come back to Earth during GT times.(No idea why) Vegeta gives him one warning, and Nappa proceeds to attack him. He's wiped out in under 5 seconds by one of Vegetas weakest Ki blasts.

    That's about what I'd expect if that were to happen.

    It was the Super 17 arc.

    To make a long story short, Gero and some other (living) mad scientist used 17 and a copy of him built in the afterlife to create a portal to Hell, and a bunch of old villains escaped during the event, including Nappa.

  • RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    Maybe I should watch GT again, it might be not great and canon or whatever but I remember very little of it.

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  • mojojoeomojojoeo A block off the park, living the dream.Registered User regular
    edited March 2015
    KiTA wrote: »
    Enlong wrote: »
    Considering Whis is said to be stronger than Beerus, I'm not sure how he could fight Freeza without resolving the conflict almost immediately.

    Return of F is breaking all logic center's. I mean, it makes sense, ish.

    HEAVY Return of F spoilers(Not involving conclusion)
    The hook that Frieza has never trained in his life, ever, like, not so much did anything actually taxing other than ride in his hoverchair and murder planets all his life until he met Goku is a GREAT idea.

    The fact that his power up, is, "And then he decided to train", is "Kenpachi decided to use two hands and actual sword form" levels of power up brilliance.

    However SSG Goku AND SSG Vegeta are both depicted in preview trailers.

    I mean sure he trained for 4 months but going from being jobbed out to Future Trunks, to being able to take on TWO Super Saiyan God's and POSSIBLY Whis is a HOLY SHIT jump.

    But yeah, I'm totally putting money on Goku and Vegeta failing and Whis putting him down/buying Goku and Vegeta time to kill time.
    Someone did a comparison between the Resurrection: F trailer and the pre-SSJ Namek fight, it's almost an exact duplicate of Vegeta getting his ass kicked and Goku showing up, only with the roles reversed. (If someone has that handy feel free to share, it might have been posted in here someplace?) Seriously it's a scene for scene recreation, with Frieza stomping on Vegeta's chest, Vegeta getting kicked into a hill, Goku looking down at him, etc.

    So I kinda expect Goku to get his ass kicked by Golden Frieza until Vegeta gets mad enough to go in, whereupon Vegeta will attain some even higher power level (True SSG? SSG2? ... SSJ4?) and beat down Frieza.

    This fits with Toriyama saying that he wanted the next movie to focus on Vegeta. It would also be an interesting bit of character development, if Vegeta goes in fighting not for his own pride, but because his rival/friend is in trouble or what have you.

    Although, er, I missed SSG Vegeta. Which trailer is he supposed to be in?

    All of that is awesome and built up from the first new movie as
    Beerus originally woke up at a time when he thought frieza would be a challenge for him. He was shocked to learn he died.

    So the power up simply being frieza actually trying to become stronger vs not training is cool as it was alluded to prior...

    Dammit xenoverse i was out. No animoos. no evangelions, no dbzs. No ship girls. Suddenly my toes are in the pool again.

    GT dlc is pretty okay. they need to make the sequel bigger more PQs less RNG, or at the least some loot rebalance where you get something most times.....

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  • NocrenNocren Lt Futz, Back in Action North CarolinaRegistered User regular
    Finally!

    Completed the base game and can now make new characters!

    Now if only I knew how to pull screen shots off my Xbone to show off my Pretty Pink Saiyan Princess!

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    heenato wrote: »
    PLA wrote: »
    Frieza doesn't even have a named empire. He's just an emperor. Of space. Of everything. Doesn't matter.

    actually, he's the emperor of the planet trade organization, basically.

    Yeah, and a bunch of planets all named "Frieza".

  • Professor SnugglesworthProfessor Snugglesworth Registered User regular
    Ravelle wrote: »
    They're sitting on a gold vain if they just integrate the upcoming dragonball movies and the rumored new television show with the game.

    Well good news! http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-26/resurrection-f-version-frieza-joins-dragon-ball-xenoverse-game-as-dlc/.86393

    Also this thing here is amazing: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-03-26/infamous-dragon-ball-z-scene-gets-a-figure/.86402

  • DacDac Registered User regular
    Wow, that's kind of mind blowing. The film is premiering in LA on April 11th, and April 18th in Japan?

    What a time to be alive.

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