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Climate Change or: How I Stopped Worrying and Love Rising Sea Levels

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    California called it wants its water back

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    ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    What water?

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    What water?

    any water

    please

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    That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    What water?

    any water

    please

    Once the hydrogen economy takes over via fusion, you guys will be fine. You just have to hold out another 10-20 years. You guys have another 10 years of water, right? RIGHT?

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    10 years you say

    on an unrelated note, does anyone happen to know how long a stillsuit filter lasts? The manufacturer warranty says 2 years, but what if you really wanted to stretch it

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    gavindelgavindel The reason all your software is brokenRegistered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    10 years you say

    on an unrelated note, does anyone happen to know how long a stillsuit filter lasts? The manufacturer warranty says 2 years, but what if you really wanted to stretch it

    You really shouldn't sietch those things past their breaking point.

    Also, Texas was just in a giant drought with wild fires everywhere! Clearly all this water is merely a return to baseline, proving the climate change wrong all along.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    You know how I talked about the guy in India with the super-successful water harvesting and conservation program? They're doing it in Ethiopia too.
    He tosses a handful of dust into the wind. "Ten years ago, that was our land." Then he points at a shimmering blue flash in the reeds. "Now look: we've got malachite kingfishers living in the desert."

    Again, we need to be doing more of this.

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    enlightenedbumenlightenedbum Registered User regular
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    What water?

    any water

    please

    Once the hydrogen economy takes over via fusion, you guys will be fine. You just have to hold out another 10-20 years. You guys have another 10 years of water, right? RIGHT?

    Fusion: 10 years away for the last 60 years.

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    PhyphorPhyphor Building Planet Busters Tasting FruitRegistered User regular
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    Paladin wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    What water?

    any water

    please

    Silly California, the Pacific is right there!

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Phyphor wrote: »
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    Paladin wrote: »
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    What water?

    any water

    please

    Silly California, the Pacific is right there!

    No, we need that for pretending like we still have time to surf

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    InvectivusInvectivus Registered User regular
    When I was in Australia, the tour had Shark Steaks on the menu for dinner. So I had one, it was pretty good. Still, it was pretty disturbing to be eating shark. I am in the belief that if you kill an animal, you damn well better use all of it. Even if you have 1% unusable stuff, throw it in with the hot dog meat, because I know what goes into there.

    However, the people who practice "fining", we should cut off their arms and legs and throw them in the ocean

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    There's been a pre-monsoon heat wave in India and Pakistan. The death toll in India has been over 2000 and in Pakistan over 800 so far.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Speaking of check dams and water retention, you know who else builds dams using local materials? Beavers. Not only do they create ponds and wetlands which are excellent habitat for a whole ecosystem-worth of species, plus increase water infiltration to groundwater by building dams, but they help sequester carbon on a landscape-scale level.

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    HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    So all my conservative "friends" from the small town I went to HS at are sharing the crap out of this on Facebook this morning: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/nobel-physicist-obama-dead-wrong-global-warming/?page=all

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    AbsalonAbsalon Lands of Always WinterRegistered User regular
    Wow, Ivar. Nice data, study, hard work and good faith you have there, you old shit.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    Did you try telling them that using the Washington Times as toilet paper has been known to cause butt cancer?

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    So all my conservative "friends" from the small town I went to HS at are sharing the crap out of this on Facebook this morning: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/nobel-physicist-obama-dead-wrong-global-warming/?page=all

    One guy says it isn't real, let's ignore the 99 who say it is!

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    HeirHeir Ausitn, TXRegistered User regular
    “Obama said last year that 2014 is the hottest year ever. But it’s not true. It’s not the hottest,” Mr. Giaever said, arguing that the mean global temperature has not risen in nearly 19 years.

    He cited data showing from 1898 to 1998, the global temperature increased by about 0.8 degrees Fahrenheit, arguing, “I think the temperature has been amazingly stable.”

    Hrm. Is that actually true?

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    jungleroomxjungleroomx It's never too many graves, it's always not enough shovels Registered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    “Obama said last year that 2014 is the hottest year ever. But it’s not true. It’s not the hottest,” Mr. Giaever said, arguing that the mean global temperature has not risen in nearly 19 years.

    He cited data showing from 1898 to 1998, the global temperature increased by about 0.8 degrees Fahrenheit, arguing, “I think the temperature has been amazingly stable.”

    Hrm. Is that actually true?

    At a minimum it's .08, but it can be as high as 1.2 because we didn't have accurate measurements in the 1900's. He also leaves off the last 17 years, which were hotter than the ones previous to it.

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    SyphonBlueSyphonBlue The studying beaver That beaver sure loves studying!Registered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    “Obama said last year that 2014 is the hottest year ever. But it’s not true. It’s not the hottest,” Mr. Giaever said, arguing that the mean global temperature has not risen in nearly 19 years.

    He cited data showing from 1898 to 1998, the global temperature increased by about 0.8 degrees Fahrenheit, arguing, “I think the temperature has been amazingly stable.”

    Hrm. Is that actually true?

    If he arbitrarily stops counting at 1998, he is 100% hiding something.

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    TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    2014 was not the hottest year on record. Look at all these records going up to 20 years before that!

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    legallytiredlegallytired Registered User regular
    I guess it is agism but it seems a lot of experts that are on the denier side of things are really old. Supreme court judges (in Canada at least) retire at 75 for a reason. My grandfather worked in education all his life but at 90 I wouldn't ask him for advice on how to run school administrations. With the scientific and computer modeling advances in the past years I have some doubt that a 86 years old physicist (even if he won a Nobel prize..more than fourty years ago) is really someone we should look to for an educated advice on current climate science considering his field was also nowhere near anything related to climate.

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    That_GuyThat_Guy I don't wanna be that guy Registered User regular
    Heir wrote: »
    So all my conservative "friends" from the small town I went to HS at are sharing the crap out of this on Facebook this morning: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/nobel-physicist-obama-dead-wrong-global-warming/?page=all

    What the fuck is a physicist doing acting like an authority on Climate Change?

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    quovadis13quovadis13 Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    SyphonBlue wrote: »
    Heir wrote: »
    “Obama said last year that 2014 is the hottest year ever. But it’s not true. It’s not the hottest,” Mr. Giaever said, arguing that the mean global temperature has not risen in nearly 19 years.

    He cited data showing from 1898 to 1998, the global temperature increased by about 0.8 degrees Fahrenheit, arguing, “I think the temperature has been amazingly stable.”

    Hrm. Is that actually true?

    If he arbitrarily stops counting at 1998, he is 100% hiding something.

    That's an example of using random start and end points to find a result you want. 1998 was a very warm year, so by resetting your start point to that year, you can claim that the average temperature hasn't gone up by much. It's a bunch of BS, listen to the smart people

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Heir wrote: »
    So all my conservative "friends" from the small town I went to HS at are sharing the crap out of this on Facebook this morning: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/nobel-physicist-obama-dead-wrong-global-warming/?page=all

    What the fuck is a physicist doing acting like an authority on Climate Change?

    I can think of another Nobel winner who went kind of crazy outside of his field, but I'm not sure linking him back would make the right point: Luc Montagnier

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    HefflingHeffling No Pic EverRegistered User regular
    That_Guy wrote: »
    Heir wrote: »
    So all my conservative "friends" from the small town I went to HS at are sharing the crap out of this on Facebook this morning: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/7/nobel-physicist-obama-dead-wrong-global-warming/?page=all

    What the fuck is a physicist doing acting like an authority on Climate Change?

    He's 86, old people say whatever the hell they are thinking and don't care about the consequences.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Alaska and western Canada are on fire.

    Current map of Alaskan fires:
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    There are over 300.

    The normally wet forests have dried out and with warmer temperatures (since areas closer to the poles have been warming much faster than the rest of the world) thunderstorms are developing. Many of the native people in these regions had never seen lightning there until a few years ago, and the lightning is setting off fires.

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    These are the current Canadian wildfires.

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    That big grey streak on the satellite image is the smoke from them.

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    This was the sky in Vancouver a few days ago from the smoke.

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    I hope Alaska burns to the ground.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    I hope Alaska burns to the ground.

    What?!

    Alaska is beautiful

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    electricitylikesmeelectricitylikesme Registered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    I hope Alaska burns to the ground.

    What?!

    Alaska is beautiful

    I'm playing the long game.

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    agoajagoaj Top Tier One FearRegistered User regular
    Mayabird wrote: »
    Alaska and western Canada are on fire.

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    These are the current Canadian wildfires.

    This graph can barely contain it's laughter at Alaska burning to the ground. It is the rudest graph.

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    NbspNbsp she laughs, like God her mind's like a diamondRegistered User regular
    edited July 2015
    I feel Planet-scale Climate Engineering is the only thing that can save us.

    Trying to change human behavior is simply not going to work. At any given moment there's a huge amount of people who know they will be dying soon and leaving this world behind so they don't care, and then the people who are going to be most affected are too young to do anything about it.

    Someone has to start playing God and re-terraform the Earth to what it used to be. Or else we just have to accept this new world and look at this as a way to stabilize the ever growing population of this planet, which we cannot sustain anyway.

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    MayabirdMayabird Pecking at the keyboardRegistered User regular
    Or a few lucky-for-certain-definitions-of-lucky people could survive on tropical Greenland and Antarctica.

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    NbspNbsp she laughs, like God her mind's like a diamondRegistered User regular
    Tropical Antarctica seems kind of cool, kind of like living on another planet, fresh new lands. The hole in the ozone will also probably be closed by then. Day and night cycles are kind of weird though.

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    We're headed for a Neuromancer-esque cyberpunk future. Gear up and get ready.

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    NbspNbsp she laughs, like God her mind's like a diamondRegistered User regular
    So that's why cyberpunk games and movies always seem to be set at night instead of the blistering day

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    Captain MarcusCaptain Marcus now arrives the hour of actionRegistered User regular
    I can think of another Nobel winner who went kind of crazy outside of his field, but I'm not sure linking him back would make the right point: Luc Montagnier

    IIRC either Watson or Crick also went batshit insane

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    Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    Wow, that looks really bad. Any natural disaster you can see from orbit is bad news.

    Also that red and blue dotted map is from Canada not Alaska.

    How are those forests set to recover from wildfires if they never have them? I know in most western US forests that they can recover pretty quickly but mostly because the ecology evolved to compensate for fires happening regularly.

    Tropical/temperate Greenland might be an interesting idea, imagine the competently new ocean ecosystems forming in the middle. I imagine that a concerted effort could make those areas lush in a few decades.

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    Phoenix-DPhoenix-D Registered User regular
    I don't think so. You'd still have the incredibly long nights- I doubt most tropical stuff is going to do well when winter is 1-2 hours of light.

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    Void SlayerVoid Slayer Very Suspicious Registered User regular
    edited July 2015
    Phoenix-D wrote: »
    I don't think so. You'd still have the incredibly long nights- I doubt most tropical stuff is going to do well when winter is 1-2 hours of light.

    You could have jungles that die off during the long nights then grow back.

    Speaking of futuristic tech, why have we not heard more about solar thermal plants? Most of them seem less expensive then nuclear power. The ones with heat reservoirs are able to function at night to reduce one of the big downsides to solar power.

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