Also, I love it when in a war I capture a bunch of unmarried women and young children* after sacking a castle, and I'm all, like, "Hey, would you like your family back?," and the other guy's, like, 'Nah, don't care."
So I put them all under house arrest (no health penalty!), continue their schooling, they all start asking questions of their Gregarious captor, who turns them all into good Irish Catholics with names like Aaliyah nic Aamir or Ahmad mac Amin. Then they get baronies to rule, or have whirlwind romances with influential courtiers. If they don't want them back, then I'm going to just make their lives as happy as possible.
EDIT: Several have turned into seriously badass generals at various points, too, which is extra amusing.
* Captive married women and older men get bad poetry read to them and are then sent home, scandalized.
Not once has he driven someone insane with his poetry!
Whose castle do I have to sack to drive someone crazy with his mad versage skillz?
Maybe your ruler has to be insane for that option to pop up?
No, it's an option for any prisoner you've got, which for me is all the time. Like, I send someone home with poetry at least two or three times in every war, and there've been a lot of wars in 500 years.
My first son was an utter dissapointment: not only he became Dull, but almost immediately after turning 16 he cgot Syphilis and then became Lunatic.
In panic, i married for a second time in hopes of getting another heir.
This is Hakon:
What's even more important, I managed to reform Germanic faith and adapt to feudalism as my first character (Harald Falhair), so goobye Gavelkind, welcome Elective Monarchy!
Does anyone have any good tips for manipulating elective monarchies, BTW?
My immortal emperor is a Duke in Poland (long story), and the Polish crown is Elective, and the king is getting on in years.
There are 4 electors:
The current King: hates me for owning a duchy in his kingdom, and I can't really blame him
My great-great-great grandson: Still Irish, same house (Ua Doyle), but he's my rival for some reason? So he mostly hates me, too, but likes money
A Swedish guy: thinks I'm awesome - both Crusaders, both Brave, I've paid him off, he owes me a favor, etc., so 100 relations
An actual Polish guy: also thinks I'm awesome for basically the same reasons, so 100 relations here, too
I have some kind of insane Diplomacy score (both personally and realm) because there's a lot of modifiers you can pick up over 500 years. (Have you seen my wicked sweet gazebo?)
The king is basically permavoting for his son, who's an Excommunicated* dullard with, literally, 0 diplomatic skill and few redeeming qualities. My great^3-grandson only moderately hates my guts because I keep waving money at him, so we've got a minimally positive relationship score, but I'm not counting on him to vote for me. Luckily, he mostly votes for himself.
So, that leaves the other two. I've got 100 relationship with both of them. They both owe me favors (which, apparently, has no bearing here).
And they both spend their time voting for each other. Like, Swedish guy votes for the Polish guy, and Polish guy votes for the Swedish guy. This allows the King's vote to be the tie-breaker, and leaves le plus idiot as the winner.
Very, very seldomly, my relative will switch his vote to one or the other, and they'll be the royal heir for a bit, but then he switches back to himself and the excomunicee roars back into the lead.
So, uh, what am I doing wrong here? What am I missing? In all the time I've spent playing CK2, I've just never really done much with elective governments (except Tanistry, and even there I didn't care quite so much who people were voting for before I got big enough and changed it). This game is unusual in that I've kept Tanistry the whole time (though, to be fair, I cheated it quite a bit by just never dying past the first couple rulers).
* Why, yes, the Pope is related to me, thanks. How did you know?
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What you're doing wrong is not being Polish and presumably having a lot of land already.
The Elective guys love to either a) keep things neat and tidy by voting with the current ruler or b) vote for someone who's landed exclusively inside whatever they're voting about.
Does anyone have any good tips for manipulating elective monarchies, BTW?
My immortal emperor is a Duke in Poland (long story), and the Polish crown is Elective, and the king is getting on in years.
There are 4 electors:
The current King: hates me for owning a duchy in his kingdom, and I can't really blame him
My great-great-great grandson: Still Irish, same house (Ua Doyle), but he's my rival for some reason? So he mostly hates me, too, but likes money
A Swedish guy: thinks I'm awesome - both Crusaders, both Brave, I've paid him off, he owes me a favor, etc., so 100 relations
An actual Polish guy: also thinks I'm awesome for basically the same reasons, so 100 relations here, too
I have some kind of insane Diplomacy score (both personally and realm) because there's a lot of modifiers you can pick up over 500 years. (Have you seen my wicked sweet gazebo?)
The king is basically permavoting for his son, who's an Excommunicated* dullard with, literally, 0 diplomatic skill and few redeeming qualities. My great^3-grandson only moderately hates my guts because I keep waving money at him, so we've got a minimally positive relationship score, but I'm not counting on him to vote for me. Luckily, he mostly votes for himself.
So, that leaves the other two. I've got 100 relationship with both of them. They both owe me favors (which, apparently, has no bearing here).
And they both spend their time voting for each other. Like, Swedish guy votes for the Polish guy, and Polish guy votes for the Swedish guy. This allows the King's vote to be the tie-breaker, and leaves le plus idiot as the winner.
Very, very seldomly, my relative will switch his vote to one or the other, and they'll be the royal heir for a bit, but then he switches back to himself and the excomunicee roars back into the lead.
So, uh, what am I doing wrong here? What am I missing? In all the time I've spent playing CK2, I've just never really done much with elective governments (except Tanistry, and even there I didn't care quite so much who people were voting for before I got big enough and changed it). This game is unusual in that I've kept Tanistry the whole time (though, to be fair, I cheated it quite a bit by just never dying past the first couple rulers).
* Why, yes, the Pope is related to me, thanks. How did you know?
I'm not 100% sure but based on some past experiences I suspect the AI is heavily inclined against voting to give a king level title to someone who is already an emperor. In some cases after crowning yourself emperor using elective succession you can destroy the kingdom titles to have better influence over your personal duchies and their succession but that doesn't apply here.
What you're doing wrong is not being Polish and presumably having a lot of land already.
The Elective guys love to either a) keep things neat and tidy by voting with the current ruler or b) vote for someone who's landed exclusively inside whatever they're voting about.
Heh - that's the funny part.
The two guys who keep switching back and forth? One of them's Swedish and, in case this wasn't clear, an actual vassal of the King of Sweden (which has become a decent continental power in my game). He's got territory in Sweden proper and on the continent. The other one's the only true Polish guy in the running, and he keeps voting for the Swede. (My Irish great^3-grandson keeps voting himself, an Irishman, obviously.)
Poland's kinda de facto drifting around in my game, too, having lost territory to Sweden, Avaria, the Byzantines, and, well, Ireland.
Nobody's voting for the King's son, except the King.
You could say that I have a lot of land already, yeah.
Does anyone have any good tips for manipulating elective monarchies, BTW?
My immortal emperor is a Duke in Poland (long story), and the Polish crown is Elective, and the king is getting on in years.
There are 4 electors:
The current King: hates me for owning a duchy in his kingdom, and I can't really blame him
My great-great-great grandson: Still Irish, same house (Ua Doyle), but he's my rival for some reason? So he mostly hates me, too, but likes money
A Swedish guy: thinks I'm awesome - both Crusaders, both Brave, I've paid him off, he owes me a favor, etc., so 100 relations
An actual Polish guy: also thinks I'm awesome for basically the same reasons, so 100 relations here, too
I have some kind of insane Diplomacy score (both personally and realm) because there's a lot of modifiers you can pick up over 500 years. (Have you seen my wicked sweet gazebo?)
The king is basically permavoting for his son, who's an Excommunicated* dullard with, literally, 0 diplomatic skill and few redeeming qualities. My great^3-grandson only moderately hates my guts because I keep waving money at him, so we've got a minimally positive relationship score, but I'm not counting on him to vote for me. Luckily, he mostly votes for himself.
So, that leaves the other two. I've got 100 relationship with both of them. They both owe me favors (which, apparently, has no bearing here).
And they both spend their time voting for each other. Like, Swedish guy votes for the Polish guy, and Polish guy votes for the Swedish guy. This allows the King's vote to be the tie-breaker, and leaves le plus idiot as the winner.
Very, very seldomly, my relative will switch his vote to one or the other, and they'll be the royal heir for a bit, but then he switches back to himself and the excomunicee roars back into the lead.
So, uh, what am I doing wrong here? What am I missing? In all the time I've spent playing CK2, I've just never really done much with elective governments (except Tanistry, and even there I didn't care quite so much who people were voting for before I got big enough and changed it). This game is unusual in that I've kept Tanistry the whole time (though, to be fair, I cheated it quite a bit by just never dying past the first couple rulers).
* Why, yes, the Pope is related to me, thanks. How did you know?
I'm not 100% sure but based on some past experiences I suspect the AI is heavily inclined against voting to give a king level title to someone who is already an emperor. In some cases after crowning yourself emperor using elective succession you can destroy the kingdom titles to have better influence over your personal duchies and their succession but that doesn't apply here.
That makes sense, too.
Oh, well - maybe I'll switch my vote to my rival grandson just to mess with him.
Oh, well - maybe I'll switch my vote to my rival grandson just to mess with him.
As another potential option, would it benefit you to have Poland ruled by the King's heir who would have a lot of trouble holding it together given his low skills?
Oh, well - maybe I'll switch my vote to my rival grandson just to mess with him.
As another potential option, would it benefit you to have Poland ruled by the King's heir who would have a lot of trouble holding it together given his low skills?
Probably not, because that would give Sweden more room to maneuver. An intact Poland would better able to stave them off, and if my relative wins, I can maybe pick him up as an ally to further stabilize them.
In related news, it is really hard to get a rebel faction in the Byzantine Empire to actually win. A long time back, someone got them switched over to Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture. Every time an Elective comes up and starts a war, I use it as an excuse to attack the Byzantines. While I've done pretty well for myself in taking stuff from them, the main reason is so that I can use my massive Irish armies to beat up the Imperial troops, allowing the Elective rebellion to win.
Despite ending up with, like, a 10-to-1 troop advantage (because I killed off 90% of the Byzantine army), the Rebellion always white peaces out. Urgh.
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Actually, voting for the Swedish guy would pull him and his territory out of Sweden. That would be worth considering.
The other major issue that's developed in the Empire of Hispania, which has expanded pretty far into Northern Africa. For some reason, Mali is still there and fairly strong, though.
Anyway, since the goal here is a CK2->EUIV long-game, they've set themselves up for a really fast colonist rush, I think. Not sure how Hispania transfers, if they get Castille-like colonization and overseas bonuses.
Hispania's existence is kind of my fault, because a long, long time ago, I raced Austrasia to win the Crusade for Andalusia (Crusade 2: Crusade Harder). I think if I hadn't joined the war, the Muslim powers would've rallied and potentially won or forced a white peace, but I snuck up behind them with completely fresh armies and destroyed a number of smaller armies before quickly sieging down enough territory to tip the warscore in the Catholics' favor and get me just ahead of Austrasia for the top contributor.
It was only at the end of the war that I noticed that the goal was to install some Spanish dude as the new King of Andalusia, rather than the winner of the Crusade. That dynasty's gone on to, very, very slowly, take over all of modern Spain, one bit of Wales, and now the old Kingdom of Africa (which had been in Ua Doyle hands for centuries, until Hispania got a bishop with a claim and now it's the King-Bishopric of Africa.
So, I just downloaded the Reaper DLC, and decided to try out making a character with every bad trait, so I could pump all his stats into health. So, of course he got the lunatic trait. I asked around for a doctor as part of the event, and a guy came with his horse.
I chose his horse as the Doctor, Horse M.D.
Horse M.D. noticed that I was having troubles with the missus, and offered me his services to help. Next thing I know, I have a healthy son, free of any genetic defects. Suspicious.
Fast forward, my King is 127 years old, outlived all his children, grandchildren, and some of his great grandchildren. I'm tempted to kill him off via cheat, since he's incapable. So I boot up the Charinfo cheat, and take a look at my long dead son.
His father was the Horse.
My entire dynasty is based off an Equine Medical Practitioner.
So, I just downloaded the Reaper DLC, and decided to try out making a character with every bad trait, so I could pump all his stats into health. So, of course he got the lunatic trait. I asked around for a doctor as part of the event, and a guy came with his horse.
I chose his horse as the Doctor, Horse M.D.
Horse M.D. noticed that I was having troubles with the missus, and offered me his services to help. Next thing I know, I have a healthy son, free of any genetic defects. Suspicious.
Fast forward, my King is 127 years old, outlived all his children, grandchildren, and some of his great grandchildren. I'm tempted to kill him off via cheat, since he's incapable. So I boot up the Charinfo cheat, and take a look at my long dead son.
His father was the Horse.
My entire dynasty is based off an Equine Medical Practitioner.
What you're doing wrong is not being Polish and presumably having a lot of land already.
The Elective guys love to either a) keep things neat and tidy by voting with the current ruler or b) vote for someone who's landed exclusively inside whatever they're voting about.
Heh - that's the funny part.
The two guys who keep switching back and forth? One of them's Swedish and, in case this wasn't clear, an actual vassal of the King of Sweden (which has become a decent continental power in my game). He's got territory in Sweden proper and on the continent. The other one's the only true Polish guy in the running, and he keeps voting for the Swede. (My Irish great^3-grandson keeps voting himself, an Irishman, obviously.)
Poland's kinda de facto drifting around in my game, too, having lost territory to Sweden, Avaria, the Byzantines, and, well, Ireland.
Nobody's voting for the King's son, except the King.
You could say that I have a lot of land already, yeah.
Does anyone have any good tips for manipulating elective monarchies, BTW?
My immortal emperor is a Duke in Poland (long story), and the Polish crown is Elective, and the king is getting on in years.
There are 4 electors:
The current King: hates me for owning a duchy in his kingdom, and I can't really blame him
My great-great-great grandson: Still Irish, same house (Ua Doyle), but he's my rival for some reason? So he mostly hates me, too, but likes money
A Swedish guy: thinks I'm awesome - both Crusaders, both Brave, I've paid him off, he owes me a favor, etc., so 100 relations
An actual Polish guy: also thinks I'm awesome for basically the same reasons, so 100 relations here, too
I have some kind of insane Diplomacy score (both personally and realm) because there's a lot of modifiers you can pick up over 500 years. (Have you seen my wicked sweet gazebo?)
The king is basically permavoting for his son, who's an Excommunicated* dullard with, literally, 0 diplomatic skill and few redeeming qualities. My great^3-grandson only moderately hates my guts because I keep waving money at him, so we've got a minimally positive relationship score, but I'm not counting on him to vote for me. Luckily, he mostly votes for himself.
So, that leaves the other two. I've got 100 relationship with both of them. They both owe me favors (which, apparently, has no bearing here).
And they both spend their time voting for each other. Like, Swedish guy votes for the Polish guy, and Polish guy votes for the Swedish guy. This allows the King's vote to be the tie-breaker, and leaves le plus idiot as the winner.
Very, very seldomly, my relative will switch his vote to one or the other, and they'll be the royal heir for a bit, but then he switches back to himself and the excomunicee roars back into the lead.
So, uh, what am I doing wrong here? What am I missing? In all the time I've spent playing CK2, I've just never really done much with elective governments (except Tanistry, and even there I didn't care quite so much who people were voting for before I got big enough and changed it). This game is unusual in that I've kept Tanistry the whole time (though, to be fair, I cheated it quite a bit by just never dying past the first couple rulers).
* Why, yes, the Pope is related to me, thanks. How did you know?
I'm not 100% sure but based on some past experiences I suspect the AI is heavily inclined against voting to give a king level title to someone who is already an emperor. In some cases after crowning yourself emperor using elective succession you can destroy the kingdom titles to have better influence over your personal duchies and their succession but that doesn't apply here.
That makes sense, too.
Oh, well - maybe I'll switch my vote to my rival grandson just to mess with him.
I'm a big fan of elective shenanigans since it gave me control of the (admittedly weak by this point) Byzantine Empire in my last game. Still not sure how it happened.
Unexpectedly, he went the distance and successfully attained enlightenment by studying at the feet of a reincarnated guru named Maki the Gentle. He's now Immortal.
This has been a surprising run in merry old India.
The best part about being Immortal is the massive pile of stats you can accumulate. There are so many "+1 to Intrigue," "+1 to Learning," etc., events that you can just do over and over.
The best part about being Immortal is the massive pile of stats you can accumulate. There are so many "+1 to Intrigue," "+1 to Learning," etc., events that you can just do over and over.
Oh yeah? Any beyond the obviously stackable character modifiers from the various Focuses you're referring to?
The best part about being Immortal is the massive pile of stats you can accumulate. There are so many "+1 to Intrigue," "+1 to Learning," etc., events that you can just do over and over.
Oh yeah? Any beyond the obviously stackable character modifiers from the various Focuses you're referring to?
Yep.
Lots of potential events, and the very repeatable "See the Realm Prosper" ambition will get you +1 Stewardship each time.
Holy smokes, They weren't kidding about the Black Death. It slammed into us and by the end it had killed so many of my vassals that they ran out of inheritors and I got most of them.
Holy smokes, They weren't kidding about the Black Death. It slammed into us and by the end it had killed so many of my vassals that they ran out of inheritors and I got most of them.
Also lost my eye and my genius heir. Sigh.
Yeah, it's no joke even if you have a freaking CDC-caliber hospital.
The other great part about the Black Death is when you go from making 100+ coins per month to making 3, as all of your booming, thriving provinces are reduced by MASSIVE DEPOPULATION!
Question when you close the gates due to disease: I've gotten an event where a lady tries to sneak in, and if I show mercy, she attempts to kill me. I'm 0-5 for surviving. Is there a way to keep her from killing me, or am I just unlucky.
I also played chess with death once. I suck at chess.
Oddly the Black Death is programmed to just miss certain regions sometimes. I just finished my Gupta Empire reconstruction run in India and it hit my provinces in Arabia, Persia and around Samarkand but never went through Punjab/Sindh.
In my game it moved West through almost all of Europe, then turned around and headed up into Scandinavia before spilling down East into the Indian subcontinent.
In my game it moved West through almost all of Europe, then turned around and headed up into Scandinavia before spilling down East into the Indian subcontinent.
Mine featured it stalling out in Germany on its way north, as far as I could tell. That was probably because I'd covered the Bavaria region in hospitals after the minor plagues were interfering with my work of making lots of money. It absolutely worked most of my neighbors and Italy, which I think had a lot to do with the Mongols' success later on.
I still lost an entire generation of heirs and had a weird inheritance jump to a cadet branch of the family; I'm not sure I'd have gotten away with it if I hadn't beaten Death at games early in that ruler's life and then stacked his +Health to buy time.
Happy anniversary to the first Paradox game that I delved into. Without it .. I wouldn't have gone into the current generation of other Paradox games .. EU IV, Stellaris, and HoI IV.
I prefer EU IV over CK II when it comes to gameplay, but I will always hold the latter in high regards.
And they're still making DLC and adding new mechanics and just generally tweaking things.
When people complain about the cost of the game, I a) point out that the DLC is fully optional, b) tell them to grab only what interests them, and c) wait for a Steam sale, because d) this DLC strategy has let them continue to work on the game for five years without charging any sort of monthly fee.
Civics is not a consumer product that you can ignore because you don’t like the options presented.
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Looks like they gave out free DLC for the anniversary:
You can get a good grasp of an enemy's fighting strength by looking at their character sheet (and that of their vassals), but you have to be careful about tribal leaders with a lot of prestige.
Did you check his Realm Tree? That's on his character sheet, and among other wrinkles, tribal allies do not provide liege levies; instead, they can be called in like allies, which can cause some significant bumps in available troop strength if your target has a lot of tribal vassals.
Did you check his Realm Tree? That's on his character sheet, and among other wrinkles, tribal allies do not provide liege levies; instead, they can be called in like allies, which can cause some significant bumps in available troop strength if your target has a lot of tribal vassals.
This was in India, so I think we're all feudal. I fought him before and he only had 2k. I'm still boggled at how he managed to get 10k. No mercs, no allies. Did he somehow get 8k in special even troops?
Also, check his vassals. He could have some Caucasian / Crimean / generic Eastern European tribal vassals if we're talking northeastern India + some expansion time.
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He died from poor health in the same year.
Bad luck Bjorn?
My immortal emperor poet is, like, 500 years old.
Not once has he driven someone insane with his poetry!
Whose castle do I have to sack to drive someone crazy with his mad versage skillz?
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Womp-womp.
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Well I have them for dinner
Maybe your ruler has to be insane for that option to pop up?
No, it's an option for any prisoner you've got, which for me is all the time. Like, I send someone home with poetry at least two or three times in every war, and there've been a lot of wars in 500 years.
Still not a single success.
Is my poetry just ... too good?
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In panic, i married for a second time in hopes of getting another heir.
This is Hakon:
What's even more important, I managed to reform Germanic faith and adapt to feudalism as my first character (Harald Falhair), so goobye Gavelkind, welcome Elective Monarchy!
Does anyone have any good tips for manipulating elective monarchies, BTW?
My immortal emperor is a Duke in Poland (long story), and the Polish crown is Elective, and the king is getting on in years.
There are 4 electors:
I have some kind of insane Diplomacy score (both personally and realm) because there's a lot of modifiers you can pick up over 500 years. (Have you seen my wicked sweet gazebo?)
The king is basically permavoting for his son, who's an Excommunicated* dullard with, literally, 0 diplomatic skill and few redeeming qualities. My great^3-grandson only moderately hates my guts because I keep waving money at him, so we've got a minimally positive relationship score, but I'm not counting on him to vote for me. Luckily, he mostly votes for himself.
So, that leaves the other two. I've got 100 relationship with both of them. They both owe me favors (which, apparently, has no bearing here).
And they both spend their time voting for each other. Like, Swedish guy votes for the Polish guy, and Polish guy votes for the Swedish guy. This allows the King's vote to be the tie-breaker, and leaves le plus idiot as the winner.
Very, very seldomly, my relative will switch his vote to one or the other, and they'll be the royal heir for a bit, but then he switches back to himself and the excomunicee roars back into the lead.
So, uh, what am I doing wrong here? What am I missing? In all the time I've spent playing CK2, I've just never really done much with elective governments (except Tanistry, and even there I didn't care quite so much who people were voting for before I got big enough and changed it). This game is unusual in that I've kept Tanistry the whole time (though, to be fair, I cheated it quite a bit by just never dying past the first couple rulers).
* Why, yes, the Pope is related to me, thanks. How did you know?
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The Elective guys love to either a) keep things neat and tidy by voting with the current ruler or b) vote for someone who's landed exclusively inside whatever they're voting about.
I'm not 100% sure but based on some past experiences I suspect the AI is heavily inclined against voting to give a king level title to someone who is already an emperor. In some cases after crowning yourself emperor using elective succession you can destroy the kingdom titles to have better influence over your personal duchies and their succession but that doesn't apply here.
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Heh - that's the funny part.
The two guys who keep switching back and forth? One of them's Swedish and, in case this wasn't clear, an actual vassal of the King of Sweden (which has become a decent continental power in my game). He's got territory in Sweden proper and on the continent. The other one's the only true Polish guy in the running, and he keeps voting for the Swede. (My Irish great^3-grandson keeps voting himself, an Irishman, obviously.)
Poland's kinda de facto drifting around in my game, too, having lost territory to Sweden, Avaria, the Byzantines, and, well, Ireland.
Nobody's voting for the King's son, except the King.
You could say that I have a lot of land already, yeah.
That makes sense, too.
Oh, well - maybe I'll switch my vote to my rival grandson just to mess with him.
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As another potential option, would it benefit you to have Poland ruled by the King's heir who would have a lot of trouble holding it together given his low skills?
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Probably not, because that would give Sweden more room to maneuver. An intact Poland would better able to stave them off, and if my relative wins, I can maybe pick him up as an ally to further stabilize them.
In related news, it is really hard to get a rebel faction in the Byzantine Empire to actually win. A long time back, someone got them switched over to Agnatic-Cognatic Primogeniture. Every time an Elective comes up and starts a war, I use it as an excuse to attack the Byzantines. While I've done pretty well for myself in taking stuff from them, the main reason is so that I can use my massive Irish armies to beat up the Imperial troops, allowing the Elective rebellion to win.
Despite ending up with, like, a 10-to-1 troop advantage (because I killed off 90% of the Byzantine army), the Rebellion always white peaces out. Urgh.
EDIT:
Actually, voting for the Swedish guy would pull him and his territory out of Sweden. That would be worth considering.
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The other major issue that's developed in the Empire of Hispania, which has expanded pretty far into Northern Africa. For some reason, Mali is still there and fairly strong, though.
Anyway, since the goal here is a CK2->EUIV long-game, they've set themselves up for a really fast colonist rush, I think. Not sure how Hispania transfers, if they get Castille-like colonization and overseas bonuses.
Hispania's existence is kind of my fault, because a long, long time ago, I raced Austrasia to win the Crusade for Andalusia (Crusade 2: Crusade Harder). I think if I hadn't joined the war, the Muslim powers would've rallied and potentially won or forced a white peace, but I snuck up behind them with completely fresh armies and destroyed a number of smaller armies before quickly sieging down enough territory to tip the warscore in the Catholics' favor and get me just ahead of Austrasia for the top contributor.
It was only at the end of the war that I noticed that the goal was to install some Spanish dude as the new King of Andalusia, rather than the winner of the Crusade. That dynasty's gone on to, very, very slowly, take over all of modern Spain, one bit of Wales, and now the old Kingdom of Africa (which had been in Ua Doyle hands for centuries, until Hispania got a bishop with a claim and now it's the King-Bishopric of Africa.
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I chose his horse as the Doctor, Horse M.D.
Horse M.D. noticed that I was having troubles with the missus, and offered me his services to help. Next thing I know, I have a healthy son, free of any genetic defects. Suspicious.
Fast forward, my King is 127 years old, outlived all his children, grandchildren, and some of his great grandchildren. I'm tempted to kill him off via cheat, since he's incapable. So I boot up the Charinfo cheat, and take a look at my long dead son.
His father was the Horse.
My entire dynasty is based off an Equine Medical Practitioner.
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Dear Satan.....
A kingdom for that horse's descendants!
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I'm a big fan of elective shenanigans since it gave me control of the (admittedly weak by this point) Byzantine Empire in my last game. Still not sure how it happened.
Unexpectedly, he went the distance and successfully attained enlightenment by studying at the feet of a reincarnated guru named Maki the Gentle. He's now Immortal.
This has been a surprising run in merry old India.
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Oh yeah? Any beyond the obviously stackable character modifiers from the various Focuses you're referring to?
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Lots of potential events, and the very repeatable "See the Realm Prosper" ambition will get you +1 Stewardship each time.
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Also lost my eye and my genius heir. Sigh.
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Dear Satan.....
Yeah, it's no joke even if you have a freaking CDC-caliber hospital.
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I also played chess with death once. I suck at chess.
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Dear Satan.....
Steam: CavilatRest
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Mine featured it stalling out in Germany on its way north, as far as I could tell. That was probably because I'd covered the Bavaria region in hospitals after the minor plagues were interfering with my work of making lots of money. It absolutely worked most of my neighbors and Italy, which I think had a lot to do with the Mongols' success later on.
I still lost an entire generation of heirs and had a weird inheritance jump to a cadet branch of the family; I'm not sure I'd have gotten away with it if I hadn't beaten Death at games early in that ruler's life and then stacked his +Health to buy time.
And they're still making DLC and adding new mechanics and just generally tweaking things.
I prefer EU IV over CK II when it comes to gameplay, but I will always hold the latter in high regards.
When people complain about the cost of the game, I a) point out that the DLC is fully optional, b) tell them to grab only what interests them, and c) wait for a Steam sale, because d) this DLC strategy has let them continue to work on the game for five years without charging any sort of monthly fee.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/592800/
Steam Support is the worst. Seriously, the worst
These South Indian portraits were already available for free if you registered a Paradox account, but I guess now they're free to all owners.
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How can I tell how many men my enemies have? I attacked a kingdom that said it had 2k men, and suddenly he has 10k! What!?
I don't see any mercenaries in his employ. So dumb.
Tribal leaders are able to spawn more troops by spending prestige, or it could have been a religious order they hired with piety.
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@JusticeforPluto
Did you check his Realm Tree? That's on his character sheet, and among other wrinkles, tribal allies do not provide liege levies; instead, they can be called in like allies, which can cause some significant bumps in available troop strength if your target has a lot of tribal vassals.
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This was in India, so I think we're all feudal. I fought him before and he only had 2k. I'm still boggled at how he managed to get 10k. No mercs, no allies. Did he somehow get 8k in special even troops?
Also, check his vassals. He could have some Caucasian / Crimean / generic Eastern European tribal vassals if we're talking northeastern India + some expansion time.
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