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If these elves can live for centuries at a time why would they have the concept of spending time with loved ones now as opposed to later? Humans have it because life is short and the specter of death is everpresent. Elves? Elves don't have the same idea of mortality or even time.
Why wouldn't they? They'll live a lot longer before dying of age-related causes, but there are still plenty of other things that can kill you. Especially in a world with fire-breathing dragons.
Plus, there are plenty of things other than death that can separate friends. Lots of people cherish high school, for example, because it's a narrow time window they'll have around those particular friends. That despite it being only about 1/20 of your actual lifespan (for me it's pretty depressing that it's even that much). Life has a tendency to come along and move people around. People also change as they experience life; friendships that exist now are in no way guaranteed to exist even a year from now, whether you live 40, 80, or 500 years.
I'd think living for that much longer would encourage more of a sense of cherishing what you have now, because your life 120 years from now is almost guaranteed to be vastly different, and it's 50/50 whether it'll be better or worse.
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BroloBroseidonLord of the BroceanRegistered Userregular
GAME OF THE YEAR
april 1, 2015
chop some wet old men in trash london, throw rocks at a big dog. if you get scared or lonely talk to pioneer graveyard doll
9.5/10
(we will be talking about bloodborne in next week’s episode of 28 plays later, my new fortnightly podcast with paul verhoeven)
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You're welcome! I didn't want to influence people's expectations by saying so up front, but this was written by my favourite comics writer (Kieron Gillen) as one of his earlier works when he was just starting out. There's some themes in this that show up in some of his later print comics work.
It's entirely possible that Their Story isn't going to start a "You're gay!?" conversation and he's just just taken off-guard that she's suddenly in love with someone.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
So, let's review:
- Abandons only daughter for several years, with what amounts to no contact, including not paying attention when said daughter is in the hospital
- Attempting an experiment on said daughter without her consent or knowledge, and also without the consent or knowledge of any of her guardians, and putting her in a coma via that experiment
- When first meeting daughter after those years of absence, makes no attempt to address the missing time, apologize for his actions, or even acknowledge that there is anything wrong
- Uses opportunity of first meeting to tell daughter how she is a failure
- Separates daughter from her main support (Kat)
Hopefully no one still has any doubts about whether this is an abusive relationship or not.
"excuse my French
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
I also have a new speculation as to why Anthony returned to Gunnerkrigg. His experiment was thwarted because Annie's friends put an end to it. If he can keep her isolated from those friends, he can do what he wants (so he thinks).
"excuse my French
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
- Abandons only daughter for several years, with what amounts to no contact, including not paying attention when said daughter is in the hospital
- Attempting an experiment on said daughter without her consent or knowledge, and also without the consent or knowledge of any of her guardians, and putting her in a coma via that experiment
- When first meeting daughter after those years of absence, makes no attempt to address the missing time, apologize for his actions, or even acknowledge that there is anything wrong
- Uses opportunity of first meeting to tell daughter how she is a failure
- Separates daughter from her main support (Kat)
Hopefully no one still has any doubts about whether this is an abusive relationship or not.
I don't think anyone thinks he's secretly a good person! If someone does think he's a good person they should let me know that I'm wrong, but I have been reading these discussions about him as being about what his motivations are and speculating where this story arc is going, not about excusing his vileness.
- Abandons only daughter for several years, with what amounts to no contact, including not paying attention when said daughter is in the hospital
- Attempting an experiment on said daughter without her consent or knowledge, and also without the consent or knowledge of any of her guardians, and putting her in a coma via that experiment
- When first meeting daughter after those years of absence, makes no attempt to address the missing time, apologize for his actions, or even acknowledge that there is anything wrong
- Uses opportunity of first meeting to tell daughter how she is a failure
- Separates daughter from her main support (Kat)
Hopefully no one still has any doubts about whether this is an abusive relationship or not.
I don't think anyone thinks he's secretly a good person! If someone does think he's a good person they should let me know that I'm wrong, but I have been reading these discussions about him as being about what his motivations are and speculating where this story arc is going, not about excusing his vileness.
It's not that anyone is arguing that he's good, it's that (it seems like) some people are saying "but maybe he's not abusive, maybe he's just ____" So I figured I'd list all the ways in which he eminently fits the profile of abuser.
"excuse my French
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
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EncA Fool with CompassionPronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered Userregular
Oh this topic again, hang on. Let me add it to the archives.
David Willis posted some character art for an upcoming storyline in Dumbing of Age.
That's Dina, if you can't tell, the socially awkward girl who loves dinosaurs.
Yeah, it's an APRIL FOOLS, but I could totally believe that one of the DoA characters was super into Homestuck, I'd believe it more if it was a character who is white though.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
I'm sure glad this was brought up again for ????? reason
I know people don't, for some reason, think this matters or whatnot. I think it's actually a pretty big thing, though, that when someone is betraying every single mark of an abuser, and people still say (even now!) "well he's being a jerk, but that's no call to accuse him of abuse"
I guess I see it as a kind of performance art of why people in abusive relationships have a really hard time getting away. Even when it's bleeding obvious, people still think "abuser" is too harsh of a word and we shouldn't use it because it's mean.
"excuse my French
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
I'm sure glad this was brought up again for ????? reason
I know people don't, for some reason, think this matters or whatnot. I think it's actually a pretty big thing, though, that when someone is betraying every single mark of an abuser, and people still say (even now!) "well he's being a jerk, but that's no call to accuse him of abuse"
I guess I see it as a kind of performance art of why people in abusive relationships have a really hard time getting away. Even when it's bleeding obvious, people still think "abuser" is too harsh of a word and we shouldn't use it because it's mean.
Well you haven't actually convinced anyone that was doubting that in the first place
Which, to be fair, is an internet problem
But I don't really understand why you felt the need to bring it back up again.
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Mr_Rose83 Blue Ridge Protects the HolyRegistered Userregular
edited April 2015
Is this like how dumbledore is inherently good despite his first appearance being the moment when he takes a fifteen-month old child from his agent, who he instructed to kidnap it from its rightful guardian, then after actively refusing it medical attention for its still bleeding head wound abandons it on a doorstep in November before going home to a party?
I'm sure glad this was brought up again for ????? reason
I know people don't, for some reason, think this matters or whatnot. I think it's actually a pretty big thing, though, that when someone is betraying every single mark of an abuser, and people still say (even now!) "well he's being a jerk, but that's no call to accuse him of abuse"
I guess I see it as a kind of performance art of why people in abusive relationships have a really hard time getting away. Even when it's bleeding obvious, people still think "abuser" is too harsh of a word and we shouldn't use it because it's mean.
From what has been said the last few pages, I'd summarize the counter argument as:
"Anthony has a backstory that leaves the story open to what his intentions are. Those intentions might be pretty ok, or not, but regardless of those he's being a dick right now."
I don't think anyone has said he should get a pass for being abusive here or that what he is doing in the now is right in some way. Just that there is a possibility he might be misguided in his motivations rather than being just a flat, evil character. Which is a pretty fair interpretation and one that, given Siddel's writing, is probable.
Harping against a nonexistant pro-abuser stance is just kinda wonky, though. No one is lessening the seriousness of abusive behavior here.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
I'm sure glad this was brought up again for ????? reason
I know people don't, for some reason, think this matters or whatnot. I think it's actually a pretty big thing, though, that when someone is betraying every single mark of an abuser, and people still say (even now!) "well he's being a jerk, but that's no call to accuse him of abuse"
I guess I see it as a kind of performance art of why people in abusive relationships have a really hard time getting away. Even when it's bleeding obvious, people still think "abuser" is too harsh of a word and we shouldn't use it because it's mean.
Well you haven't actually convinced anyone that was doubting that in the first place
Which, to be fair, is an internet problem
But I don't really understand why you felt the need to bring it back up again.
Well I guess if you ignore the posts that are literally saying he's a good person, while focusing on how I'm posting wrong, that would explain it.
"excuse my French
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
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Clint EastwoodMy baby's in there someplaceShe crawled right inRegistered Userregular
My evidence is that he was friends with a number of the adult cast and they knew him very well. Also that so far in GC there has yet to be an out and out black and white good guy/evil guy character. To make him not only evil but an asshole wouldn't fit into the overall composition of the story where most everyone is morally gray of varying shades.
I'm not looking at Anthony as a person when I think he's inherently good, but at the narrative and story structure encompassing him. I can get a pretty good bead on how a character is going to be by looking at how everything's been set up. Most of the time anyway.
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Plus, there are plenty of things other than death that can separate friends. Lots of people cherish high school, for example, because it's a narrow time window they'll have around those particular friends. That despite it being only about 1/20 of your actual lifespan (for me it's pretty depressing that it's even that much). Life has a tendency to come along and move people around. People also change as they experience life; friendships that exist now are in no way guaranteed to exist even a year from now, whether you live 40, 80, or 500 years.
I'd think living for that much longer would encourage more of a sense of cherishing what you have now, because your life 120 years from now is almost guaranteed to be vastly different, and it's 50/50 whether it'll be better or worse.
The news post however......apple juice shouldn't flow like that. Almost makes me forget how obnoxious that character is.
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Dang, that was pretty great!
Goddamn shotgun-toting grandpas in wheelchairs.
Also, the nerds might look familiar to you. For good reason.
This was amazing, thanks for posting it.
- Abandons only daughter for several years, with what amounts to no contact, including not paying attention when said daughter is in the hospital
- Attempting an experiment on said daughter without her consent or knowledge, and also without the consent or knowledge of any of her guardians, and putting her in a coma via that experiment
- When first meeting daughter after those years of absence, makes no attempt to address the missing time, apologize for his actions, or even acknowledge that there is anything wrong
- Uses opportunity of first meeting to tell daughter how she is a failure
- Separates daughter from her main support (Kat)
Hopefully no one still has any doubts about whether this is an abusive relationship or not.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
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Prague Race had satyr tits once.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
I don't think anyone thinks he's secretly a good person! If someone does think he's a good person they should let me know that I'm wrong, but I have been reading these discussions about him as being about what his motivations are and speculating where this story arc is going, not about excusing his vileness.
That seems pretty cut and dry to me.
Every fucking update
It's not that anyone is arguing that he's good, it's that (it seems like) some people are saying "but maybe he's not abusive, maybe he's just ____" So I figured I'd list all the ways in which he eminently fits the profile of abuser.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
Exactly what about him makes you think he's inherently good?
That's Dina, if you can't tell, the socially awkward girl who loves dinosaurs.
I know people don't, for some reason, think this matters or whatnot. I think it's actually a pretty big thing, though, that when someone is betraying every single mark of an abuser, and people still say (even now!) "well he's being a jerk, but that's no call to accuse him of abuse"
I guess I see it as a kind of performance art of why people in abusive relationships have a really hard time getting away. Even when it's bleeding obvious, people still think "abuser" is too harsh of a word and we shouldn't use it because it's mean.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
Well you haven't actually convinced anyone that was doubting that in the first place
Which, to be fair, is an internet problem
But I don't really understand why you felt the need to bring it back up again.
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From what has been said the last few pages, I'd summarize the counter argument as:
"Anthony has a backstory that leaves the story open to what his intentions are. Those intentions might be pretty ok, or not, but regardless of those he's being a dick right now."
I don't think anyone has said he should get a pass for being abusive here or that what he is doing in the now is right in some way. Just that there is a possibility he might be misguided in his motivations rather than being just a flat, evil character. Which is a pretty fair interpretation and one that, given Siddel's writing, is probable.
Harping against a nonexistant pro-abuser stance is just kinda wonky, though. No one is lessening the seriousness of abusive behavior here.
Well I guess if you ignore the posts that are literally saying he's a good person, while focusing on how I'm posting wrong, that would explain it.
But fuck you — no, fuck y'all, that's as blunt as it gets"
- Kendrick Lamar, "The Blacker the Berry"
I'm not looking at Anthony as a person when I think he's inherently good, but at the narrative and story structure encompassing him. I can get a pretty good bead on how a character is going to be by looking at how everything's been set up. Most of the time anyway.