Who is easier? The vicar or the witch? I have them both unlocked and I am trying to figure out who to tackle first.
The Witch, by far, seems easier to me. It's more of a "puzzle fight" than an actual "learn the monster and counter its attacks" fight. Once you figure out the trick (or have the trick spoiled for you) to the fight, it's possibly the easiest boss in the game.
Also all this blood vial farming is annoying me at this point. Is there better way? Should I just be buying them like @Beef Avenger suggested?
Yup. They are cheap.
Man you weren't kidding. Maybe I got lucky but that has been the easiest boss battle by far.
Does killing them unlock anything or open up any new paths in the world?
I really love when you figure out the lore of an area, even if it's mostly inconsequential in the big picture. Hemwick Charnel lane. If you're paying attention, you notice you pick up bloodshot eyeball ritual materials from bodies all over the place. And of course, the Witches of Hemwick themselves are avid eyeball collectors. Then you talk to that one person who has an incense torch and they're all talking about how it's almost time or something like that.
The first time I ran through there I was just like ok it's a crazy village of wackos. But then when I was paying more attention I realized that those fools are straight up about to do a chalice ritual, though for what purpose I don't think we can know.
And of course, From's godlike level of detail, even the horse corpses in that area are missing their eyes.
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Mergo's Wet Nurse down, one-shot.
Glorious Tonritus R1 rushdown, then blitzed the last phase with three Cannon shots.
Who is easier? The vicar or the witch? I have them both unlocked and I am trying to figure out who to tackle first.
The Witch, by far, seems easier to me. It's more of a "puzzle fight" than an actual "learn the monster and counter its attacks" fight. Once you figure out the trick (or have the trick spoiled for you) to the fight, it's possibly the easiest boss in the game.
Also all this blood vial farming is annoying me at this point. Is there better way? Should I just be buying them like @Beef Avenger suggested?
Yup. They are cheap.
Man you weren't kidding. Maybe I got lucky but that has been the easiest boss battle by far.
Does killing them unlock anything or open up any new paths in the world?
In the next room, you get the Rune Workshop tool. Which lets you use Caryll Runes. A huge bonus, IMO. I don't think anything new opens up, though.
Hey, guys. I'm having a helluva trouble trying to kill Rom and finding co-op partners. I'm level 61, would anyone be able to help me co-op this asshole?
Locked/closed doors. There are two I can think of that I couldn't open and a possible third. I think I explored all the areas but I'd like to be proven wrong!
First is in Cathedral Ward, down the stairs past the ball-and-chain giant after you find the monocular: there's a door next to a chest that's just marked 'closed' though this could possibly be the other side of the Cleric Beast fight.
Second is in Nightmare of Mensis. Just past the big brain thing (is that Mensis?) to the right there's a locked door that I couldn't open.
Third is in Byrgenwerth. Anyone else notice the trapdoor? It looks like a closed version of the one between Cathedral Ward and Tomb of Oedon, also reminds me of the Lecture Theatre (was that part of Byrgenwerth once?) - possible DLC hook? Could just be decoration to make the place seem larger.
Locked/closed doors. There are two I can think of that I couldn't open and a possible third. I think I explored all the areas but I'd like to be proven wrong!
First is in Cathedral Ward, down the stairs past the ball-and-chain giant after you find the monocular: there's a door next to a chest that's just marked 'closed' though this could possibly be the other side of the Cleric Beast fight.
Second is in Nightmare of Mensis. Just past the big brain thing (is that Mensis?) to the right there's a locked door that I couldn't open.
Third is in Byrgenwerth. Anyone else notice the trapdoor? It looks like a closed version of the one between Cathedral Ward and Tomb of Oedon, also reminds me of the Lecture Theatre (was that part of Byrgenwerth once?) - possible DLC hook? Could just be decoration to make the place seem larger.
1) Yes, that's the other side of the Cleric Beast fight. That door never opens, the Church locked off Yharnam to try and isolate the infection.
2) How did you get to the Brain? Dropping down from above where the level is? That's the Iron Key hidden on the upper side of the Micolash fight if so.
3) Didn't see it. But yes, the Lecture Hall used to be part of Byrgenwerth until the Nightmare started.
Fuuuuck. I've died so many times on Ebrietas and I'm not making much headway. That charge attack is some bullshit
Are you locking on? This is one of those bosses where you probably shouldn't be locking on if you're doing so. And try and stick to their back except when you need to retreat to heal.
Finished. Wish it didn't drop you right into NG+, I feel ill prepared at Level 97 and
I'm scared of losing these 240k+ souls...
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Almost all done. My boss try tally so far (all solo):
Cleric Beast: first try
Father Gascoigne: 7-8 tries
Blood Starved Beast: first try
Witch of Hemwick: first try
Darkbeast Paarl: 2-3 tries
Vicar Amelia: first try
Amygdala: first try
Martyr Logarius: 3 tries
Shadows of Yharnam: first try
Rom: first try
Celestial Emissary: first try
Ebrietas: 8 tries
Micolash: first try
Mergo's Wet Nurse: first try
Stopping there while I work through Chalices for that boss, then will finish things out.
Fuuuuck. I've died so many times on Ebrietas and I'm not making much headway. That charge attack is some bullshit
Are you locking on? This is one of those bosses where you probably shouldn't be locking on if you're doing so. And try and stick to their back except when you need to retreat to heal.
I learned not to lock on a while ago, since it takes it very hard/impossible to dodge some of her attack like the arm+tentacle swipe and the charge.
I'm starting to get the hang of her, at least in her early phases. I like to bait out her head attacks and wail on her weak spot afterwards. It doesnt work so well later on.
My last death was due to a laser attack I'd never seen before, so... progress?
Even with elemental gems in them, its not worth scaling arcane for weapons period. The spells are very shit, the scaling is okay, but you only get 3 options for damage. Fire/Bolt/Arcane damage. If you have 15 arcane and a ludwigs with full str/skill you get physical, bolt paper, fire paper, arcane buff. Some of the hardest fights in the game are super resistant to the arcane specs, and you don't have pure physical damage to fall back on.
Going full arcane is the worst character I made, i felt more powerful with skill/blood at 70 than I did with full arcane at 120. The spells are shit, quicksilverbullet hungry, and usable in maybe 2-3 places. Just.. Just never go full arcane. Never.
I liked it, myself. Augur is a full stamina reset that often gives you a frame advantage, and Executioner's does better damage per soul level than a +6 Evelyn at least, am not finished my skill/blood run yet.
That, and the drop rate is pretty nice, since Discovery scales pretty nicely with Arcane.
Fuuuuck. I've died so many times on Ebrietas and I'm not making much headway. That charge attack is some bullshit
Are you locking on? This is one of those bosses where you probably shouldn't be locking on if you're doing so. And try and stick to their back except when you need to retreat to heal.
I learned not to lock on a while ago, since it takes it very hard/impossible to dodge some of her attack like the arm+tentacle swipe and the charge.
I'm starting to get the hang of her, at least in her early phases. I like to bait out her head attacks and wail on her weak spot afterwards. It doesnt work so well later on.
My last death was due to a laser attack I'd never seen before, so... progress?
Do you want tips?
I wouldn't bother baiting head attacks. Just move all the way to her flank or even between her rear appendages and wail away. You can clip her side appendages along the way and get staggers through that but in general it's safer than playing around with her front.
The laser attack starts in Phase 2 (also once she puts on the self-buff that causes damage while you stay near her). Move laterally and constantly and you dodge it, it's three volleys. She does have to channel before it so watch for that and the glow if she seems to be just standing around doing nothing.
Hey, guys. I'm having a helluva trouble trying to kill Rom and finding co-op partners. I'm level 61, would anyone be able to help me co-op this asshole?
You can cheese the heck out of him with the flamethrower if you cannot find co-op buddies
Fuuuuck. I've died so many times on Ebrietas and I'm not making much headway. That charge attack is some bullshit
Are you locking on? This is one of those bosses where you probably shouldn't be locking on if you're doing so. And try and stick to their back except when you need to retreat to heal.
I learned not to lock on a while ago, since it takes it very hard/impossible to dodge some of her attack like the arm+tentacle swipe and the charge.
I'm starting to get the hang of her, at least in her early phases. I like to bait out her head attacks and wail on her weak spot afterwards. It doesnt work so well later on.
My last death was due to a laser attack I'd never seen before, so... progress?
Do you want tips?
I wouldn't bother baiting head attacks. Just move all the way to her flank or even between her rear appendages and wail away. You can clip her side appendages along the way and get staggers through that but in general it's safer than playing around with her front.
The laser attack starts in Phase 2 (also once she puts on the self-buff that causes damage while you stay near her). Move laterally and constantly and you dodge it, it's three volleys. She does have to channel before it so watch for that and the glow if she seems to be just standing around doing nothing.
When I try getting on her side, I get clipped a lot by the ending part of her swipes. However, her flurry attack in her last phase is impossible to avoid if you're anywhere in front of her as far as I can tell, so I guess I need to learn your method
have you been to nightmare of mensis yet? at the end of that area is a godly soul farming run; and doing it once or twice should net you like 40 or 50 at a pop
have you been to nightmare of mensis yet? at the end of that area is a godly soul farming run; and doing it once or twice should net you like 40 or 50 at a pop
I got there, but I had gotten the UCW key and decided to go there first. Maybe I'll go to the nightmare first and do this later. Save myself some frustration. Thanks for the info
What sort of stats/weapons are you running @Emperor_Z ? That boss was super easy for me but I'm running a strength build and bosses with targetable heads are super weak to the cannon.
Yeah, I give the fuck up for now. I cant beat her second phase
Man, Bloodborne is WAY harder for me than Dark Souls. And blood vials are making it into a frustrating hard instead of a rewarding hard
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Cooped Mergo's 11 times while watching LCS. Very easy fight if she doesn't randomly decide to buff 10 seconds in. Died only once to fluffing a roll straight into another attack, failed twice due to Beckoner not having enough health and getting oneshot by her big windup attack. 56k Echoes per fight while running two Moon runes is legit.
Arcane/strength aka a build suited only to ludwig's
Alright, I'm going to spoiler this because it's super cheesy.
My level's where in the upper 80s when I fought Ebrietas. Vit 31 End 28 Str 30 Dex 25 Blood 10 Arc 15. Here's what I did.
Get in the room and aggro Ebrietas. Lock on the her head as she's turning around. Bone Marrow Ash followed by a cannon shot. If your Bloodtinge is low (mine was 10 at the time) then back up a bit and do it again. She'll fall forward. Visceral attack. As she's reeling from the Visceral, lock onto her head again and full charge a R2 attack. If you're lucky, this will stagger her again and you can perform a second Visceral attack. At that point she's basically dead, just wail on her. If you're not lucky and the R2 doesn't stagger, you can either back your ass up pronto and try to fight her legit or (if her health is low enough) just starting swinging Ludwig around and hope for the best.
This method will use WAY more bullets than fighting her head-on, but it shouldn't take as many tries.
EDIT: You could also use blood bullets before the first and second shots to get yourself a third after the Visceral, but you won't be getting that first shot's health back making the "get the fuck out" part after the Visceral Attacks pretty tense.
Arcane/strength aka a build suited only to ludwig's
Alright, I'm going to spoiler this because it's super cheesy.
My level's where in the upper 80s when I fought Ebrietas. Vit 31 End 28 Str 30 Dex 25 Blood 10 Arc 15. Here's what I did.
Get in the room and aggro Ebrietas. Lock on the her head as she's turning around. Bone Marrow Ash followed by a cannon shot. If your Bloodtinge is low (mine was 10 at the time) then back up a bit and do it again. She'll fall forward. Visceral attack. As she's reeling from the Visceral, lock onto her head again and full charge a R2 attack. If you're lucky, this will stagger her again and you can perform a second Visceral attack. At that point she's basically dead, just wail on her. If you're not lucky and the R2 doesn't stagger, you can either back your ass up pronto and try to fight her legit or (if her health is low enough) just starting swinging Ludwig around and hope for the best.
This method will use WAY more bullets than fighting her head-on, but it shouldn't take as many tries.
EDIT: You could also use blood bullets before the first and second shots to get yourself a third after the Visceral, but you won't be getting that first shot's health back making the "get the fuck out" part after the Visceral Attacks pretty tense.
Blood rapture rune.
got amelia on the second try. apparently i got gud after the 100 attempts on my first playthrough. would have been one try, but on her literal last sliver of health, she managed to catch me mid-heal with the wind cone move. was slightly salty.
Just one-shot the Bloodletting Beast. In this Chalice dungeon, there is a circular room with a blobby fat guy in it. (A tick-chick/dude will spawn here as well.) there's a second level to this area with an item on a corpse, but I have found no way of getting to it. Anyone know what I'm referring to? If it's just a normal item, I won't sweat it, but I feel like it could be something decent since it's not obvious how to reach it.
Arcane/strength aka a build suited only to ludwig's
Alright, I'm going to spoiler this because it's super cheesy.
My level's where in the upper 80s when I fought Ebrietas. Vit 31 End 28 Str 30 Dex 25 Blood 10 Arc 15. Here's what I did.
Get in the room and aggro Ebrietas. Lock on the her head as she's turning around. Bone Marrow Ash followed by a cannon shot. If your Bloodtinge is low (mine was 10 at the time) then back up a bit and do it again. She'll fall forward. Visceral attack. As she's reeling from the Visceral, lock onto her head again and full charge a R2 attack. If you're lucky, this will stagger her again and you can perform a second Visceral attack. At that point she's basically dead, just wail on her. If you're not lucky and the R2 doesn't stagger, you can either back your ass up pronto and try to fight her legit or (if her health is low enough) just starting swinging Ludwig around and hope for the best.
This method will use WAY more bullets than fighting her head-on, but it shouldn't take as many tries.
EDIT: You could also use blood bullets before the first and second shots to get yourself a third after the Visceral, but you won't be getting that first shot's health back making the "get the fuck out" part after the Visceral Attacks pretty tense.
Unfortunately, my strength is about ten points too low to use the cannon. Still, amusing to know how badly she can be stunlocked if your damage output is high enough
I should probably level up a bit in general. I'm not quite at 80 yet
Ha, neat. I hope the game is full of obscure secrets like this.
On the subject of Annalise and her covenant...
Do we know anything about the Vilebloods, really? Their goals and such? Annalise states that they're the sworn enemies of the church, but I have no idea why. It doesn't seem to be for noble reasons
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Man you weren't kidding. Maybe I got lucky but that has been the easiest boss battle by far.
Does killing them unlock anything or open up any new paths in the world?
The first time I ran through there I was just like ok it's a crazy village of wackos. But then when I was paying more attention I realized that those fools are straight up about to do a chalice ritual, though for what purpose I don't think we can know.
And of course, From's godlike level of detail, even the horse corpses in that area are missing their eyes.
First is in Cathedral Ward, down the stairs past the ball-and-chain giant after you find the monocular: there's a door next to a chest that's just marked 'closed' though this could possibly be the other side of the Cleric Beast fight.
Second is in Nightmare of Mensis. Just past the big brain thing (is that Mensis?) to the right there's a locked door that I couldn't open.
Third is in Byrgenwerth. Anyone else notice the trapdoor? It looks like a closed version of the one between Cathedral Ward and Tomb of Oedon, also reminds me of the Lecture Theatre (was that part of Byrgenwerth once?) - possible DLC hook? Could just be decoration to make the place seem larger.
2) How did you get to the Brain? Dropping down from above where the level is? That's the Iron Key hidden on the upper side of the Micolash fight if so.
3) Didn't see it. But yes, the Lecture Hall used to be part of Byrgenwerth until the Nightmare started.
Are you locking on? This is one of those bosses where you probably shouldn't be locking on if you're doing so. And try and stick to their back except when you need to retreat to heal.
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Father Gascoigne: 7-8 tries
Blood Starved Beast: first try
Witch of Hemwick: first try
Darkbeast Paarl: 2-3 tries
Vicar Amelia: first try
Amygdala: first try
Martyr Logarius: 3 tries
Shadows of Yharnam: first try
Rom: first try
Celestial Emissary: first try
Ebrietas: 8 tries
Micolash: first try
Mergo's Wet Nurse: first try
Stopping there while I work through Chalices for that boss, then will finish things out.
I'm starting to get the hang of her, at least in her early phases. I like to bait out her head attacks and wail on her weak spot afterwards. It doesnt work so well later on.
My last death was due to a laser attack I'd never seen before, so... progress?
I liked it, myself. Augur is a full stamina reset that often gives you a frame advantage, and Executioner's does better damage per soul level than a +6 Evelyn at least, am not finished my skill/blood run yet.
That, and the drop rate is pretty nice, since Discovery scales pretty nicely with Arcane.
Do you want tips?
The laser attack starts in Phase 2 (also once she puts on the self-buff that causes damage while you stay near her). Move laterally and constantly and you dodge it, it's three volleys. She does have to channel before it so watch for that and the glow if she seems to be just standing around doing nothing.
I got there, but I had gotten the UCW key and decided to go there first. Maybe I'll go to the nightmare first and do this later. Save myself some frustration. Thanks for the info
even if it was just like, 15 rather than 20
i think wiping repeatedly on a boss just gets to be way more frustrating when you know you're burning through limited stocks of materials
Man, Bloodborne is WAY harder for me than Dark Souls. And blood vials are making it into a frustrating hard instead of a rewarding hard
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Alright, I'm going to spoiler this because it's super cheesy.
Get in the room and aggro Ebrietas. Lock on the her head as she's turning around. Bone Marrow Ash followed by a cannon shot. If your Bloodtinge is low (mine was 10 at the time) then back up a bit and do it again. She'll fall forward. Visceral attack. As she's reeling from the Visceral, lock onto her head again and full charge a R2 attack. If you're lucky, this will stagger her again and you can perform a second Visceral attack. At that point she's basically dead, just wail on her. If you're not lucky and the R2 doesn't stagger, you can either back your ass up pronto and try to fight her legit or (if her health is low enough) just starting swinging Ludwig around and hope for the best.
This method will use WAY more bullets than fighting her head-on, but it shouldn't take as many tries.
EDIT: You could also use blood bullets before the first and second shots to get yourself a third after the Visceral, but you won't be getting that first shot's health back making the "get the fuck out" part after the Visceral Attacks pretty tense.
Cainhurst+Root Chalice secret item
got amelia on the second try. apparently i got gud after the 100 attempts on my first playthrough. would have been one try, but on her literal last sliver of health, she managed to catch me mid-heal with the wind cone move. was slightly salty.
Unfortunately, my strength is about ten points too low to use the cannon. Still, amusing to know how badly she can be stunlocked if your damage output is high enough
I should probably level up a bit in general. I'm not quite at 80 yet
Ha, neat. I hope the game is full of obscure secrets like this.
On the subject of Annalise and her covenant...
Everytime you kill an enemy with a Visceral attack they have a chance to spawn in after you leave that room, coming in to suck up the blood.
Because fuck you for stylin' on enemies.
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