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[Daredevil] is a Man Without A Tv Show
Harry Dresden
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAy6NJ_D5vUDaredevil returns with Netflix, starting on April 10. DD's finally getting what's due to him in an adaption, which has taken long enough to get made. The first series that leads up to The Defenders, where Daredevil joins Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist as a team.
Daredevil/Matt Murdock (Charlie Cox)
Blinded as a boy, his father was murdered for refusing to throw a match as a professional boxer. He was trained afterward in martial arts by Stick, a surly ninja master. As a man he's a defense attorney, who is driven to be a vigilante to save his city from being consumed by corruption.
Foggy Nelson (Eldren Henson)
Matt's best friend and partner in their law firm. He has no idea what Matt gets up to at nights and he's probably better off.
Karen Page (Deborah Ann Woll)
Framed for murder that her company covered up, Karen's desperate for justice and is determined to find it no matter the cost.
Becomes the secretary for Foggy and Murdock when they prove her innocence.
Claire Temple (Rosario Dawson)
She's a nurse who Matt turns to to heal his injured from his nights as a super-hero.
Ben Urich (Vondie Curtis-Hall)
A local reporter who gets caught up with Daredevil's antics. Normally he's a supporting character for Spider-man and works for the Daily Bugle.
Wilson Fisk/the Kingpin (Vincent D'Onofrio)
A powerful business man and crime lord, who wants to control Hell's Kitchen to save it in his twisted mind. Ambitious, charismatic, intelligent, ruthless - with an army of criminals to back him up. Matt will have his hands full stopping him from doing what he wants.
This will be no spoiler tags in this thread since this is a show for Netflix.
edit: Fixed, Hakke.
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It will be interesting to see how far they push the envelope in terms of "grit" and violence.
Looking forward to at least watching an episode or two on Friday night.
We've been discussing making the swap from Amazon Prime, and this could make the decision for us.
(When I say us, I mean me)
i believe so. it being a Netflix Original that should mean it's available everywhere Netflix is.
Episode 1
Episode 2 and 3
Episode 4 and 5
You know, in case you can't wait two more days.
Also I did not know Charlie Cox was actually playing Daredevil. i have been mildly in love with him since Stardust (which i still rewatch with regularity)
I was on the fence about watching but now i'm sold
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Just wait until he tries to send up raw lamb. Matt will kick him right out of the kitchen.
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Sorry for the misunderstanding. The thread has no spoiler tags.
This isn't helping with my 'try and not binge it all in 2 days' idea, though!
Also it's TV-MA, so correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't that mean it's the first R-rated or equivalent MCU thing?
I've heard that's what I means, I don't know if it's true or not. I really hope it's true because I want an R rated Punisher tv show.
Basically, yeah. It's where naked people and copious amounts of blood/gore live.
One thing I'll be paying attention to in the back of my mind is whether Matt will act like he is blind or will just be acting like he can see all along (this is more the actor's intent I guess).
Charlie Cox talked a lot about working with a legally blind guy to get the feeling of being blind. He paid special attention to where blind people put their eyes when talking to you. He also talked a bit about how Daredevil pretends to be normal blind in public, but around his friends or whatever, you won't see him stumbling over a table because he actually knows where everything is.
Also one of the writers tweeted that on multiple occasions a writer or whatever would say: "Matt sees..." and Charlie Cox would correct them: "Um, no he does not."
So far the only two bad reviews I've seen are these two, and they mostly just call the show mediocre. Also, for some reason the second one seems to think Daredevil is just a normal blind guy.
That Hollywood Reporter reviewer shows his bias by the second overly-long sentence.
... and by the time I finished the review I wonder: 1) How he got a job working for Hollywood Reporter and 2) Why his editor didn't scream at him. That was the worst review I have read in a long time. "Comic book movies and TV shows are dumb, someone should just shoot Daredevil, oh, and watch Banshee or Blacklist!"
I got the total opposite impression. A lot of the cuts were prior to the hits landing, Jackie Chan-style. That final roundhouse kick cuts to a different angle while he's in the motion and is then shown connecting and it looked brutal, whereas lots of fight editing would have placed a cut right at the moment of impact (the fight choreography version of syncing your cuts to the bass drum kicks in music videos) instead of just before it, to make it easier to hide a sloppy execution.
Granted, it's a super short scene, and it looks to be just the very end of a fight, but it makes me think they've got a good handle on making DD's encounters feel pretty visceral. The way the music immediately drops out when Matt collapses was a neat bit of reinforcement to the idea that he is fucking wiped, as one would be after a fistfight.
It's definitely the end of a fight, probably a fairly involved and tiring fight. This goes back to that reviewer earlier who thinks he's just a 'normal blind guy'. In terms of physical ability, that's basically right. He's not a super human like Rogers, he's just a guy who can fight, but is blind and has extraordinary other senses. Fights are going to tire him out quickly, and it's good they're showing that, kind of like Falcon in Winter Soldier.
In the comics Daredevil is but this isn't the comics. In the comics he retained his senses when the effects of the radiation wore off, due to ninja techniques and he was a ninja adept, like Elektra, people who are born in each generation that are the best in the world at being ninja prodigies. Minus the healing factor Affleck's DD wasn't far off the mark to what comic DD is capable of. I like this uber-realistic Daredevil, it gives him a niche in the MCU as the every-man super-hero like Nolan did for Batman. That scene I'm suspecting was at the end of a fight, I assume he's going to much tougher in fight scenes then what we saw.
edit: In the comics Daredevil routinely tosses heavy gym equipment like nothing to knock out thugs, tosses limos over and uses his strength to open massive safes that have no locks - made by Kingpin himself which he can only open with brute strength, it exhausted him but that he did it. A safe door which has to be in the 1 tonne range in weight. IIRC this is what happened in Miller's first run and in the Man With Fear mini-series he battered a bullet fired at him at point blank range after it was fired while rescuing Elektra from an assassin.
Oh jesus if we could get something based on Ennis' run that'd be amazing.
Just Slavers. Give me fucking Slavers Hollywood machine.
That's the first time I've heard about some of those things. That actually kind of makes me like Daredevil even less as a character.
Frank Castle was right.
He's about Batman/Captain America tier, or slightly above - without the exotic equipment. Comic book super-heroes and ninjas, even non-super-powered ones, are the heroes who'd make action heroes look like amateurs. Daredevil's not unique in that regard. Then there's Bullseye and Kingpin himself - the latter was going toe-to-toe with Spider-man physically before moving to Daredevil, and Miller toned down his strength when he did that.
edit: Castle's been written as going hand to hand with him brutally at least once.
I'm good if it's darker, grittier, and maybe a bit more violent than the usual Marvel fare...however, I hope TV-MA doesn't mean constant F-bombs, and gratuitous nudity and/or Gore. That would make me a lot less likely to watch it.
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There was one review I read that said the majority of it is violence; the strongest expletive they heard was"shit" and the only nudity was a shot of side-boob. As for the severity of the gore, it sounds like the two worst cases were a decapitation and somebody getting stabbed in the eye. Keep in mind, of course, that the reviewers only saw the first five episodes.
Matt spent most of his points on Radar Sense, and put whatever was left in Fighting. I know that Kingpin is up there with Spider-man when it comes to strength, but I've never considered Daredevil to be anywhere close to that.
The comics say otherwise. My examples were strictly limited to what I remember from Miller's comics, there's more that I'm forgetting. Cap's the same, the comics version makes his movie counterpart look weak. Batman's healed from getting a sword run through him and his back broken. He captured several villains like the Joker in Knightfall with a massive cold/flu in exhausting bouts without stopping for days. He was tired when he got home, but enough to try and fight back against Bane. Which is impressive that he didn't go to sleep for hours right after getting home.
edit: A regular villain of his is Mr. Hyde, who throws cars on his weakest formula and he's defeated the Absorbing Man and Titania with his bare hands. There's also Bullseye. Elektra is even more awesome in martial arts than DD is.
Daredevil isn't. He's still incredibly powerful as an elite super-hero/comic book ninja. Lifting a tonne isn't what I'd consider unusual for his strength, and that's without going into his reflexes, speed or exotic ninja abilities. He's like a mini-Iron Fist in a red suit.
edit: Spider-man lifts up train trolleys like they're children's toys.
Yep!