It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
Those other changes to other games that Nintendo had nothing to do with so why even bring them up?
I think you people are being the goosiest of geese about this. Its a goddamn tit slider in a game where the only other body modifier is height.
Well, as long as you're ok with the narrative also being "Women are one size fits all" and "Women B cup and lower don't exist"...
Then I guess this is a good thing...?
I'm not sure how to even respond to this, as I don't remotely understand how you could take that to be a "narrative". It's just the removal of a bust slider, and I'm sure if we could see inside the heads of the people making the decision, it has *nothing* to do with trying to sell any kind of narrative. It's just a kinda gross option to have when there's so little in the way of other options, and this one singles out women on top of that. In the modern climate where we are finally making some progress when it comes to the treatment of women in gaming and videogames themselves, this is a good thing, IMO.
You saying it's a good thing to remove the gross option of making big boobs means saying it's also a good thing to remove the gross option to make small ones. That it's one size for all women, and if they don't fit with the global standard, well too bad for them, they don't get to be represented.
If you're ok with that, then fine. Sounds like a pretty gross statement to me though.
If you're not, then you can reevaluate your original statement.
But I'm not saying that at all. I'm not saying "Yay, they removed the ability to make big boobs". I'm saying it's good they removed the slider at all, as it never should've been one of the major defining characteristics of female character creation in the first place. I've made zero commentary on size, because I don't think that has anything to do with it.
edit: What religious/Xeno references have been removed? The only thing I've heard any mention of was a change to an acronym that didn't read well in English in the first place, which is, dare I say, the entire point of localization (as opposed to merely translation).
The characters honestly don't bother me much, but I'm a fan of 80's - Early 90's anime and it pretty much just looks like that but in 3D. I can see how it might be considered a little "off" though.
I've heard that the packs most noticeably reduce pop-in when you're moving quickly through the world (i.e. flying your Skell) which they didn't show in the video.
Well they all apparently do different stuff. There's the basic pack which loads areas quicker, the player pack which is supposed to make loading when equipping new player gear quicker, the enemy pack to reduce enemy pop-in, and the skell pack to make skell customization quicker
I've just now learned that the correct way to play Xenoblade is in the nude
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
xenosaga was a parade of nonstop ludonarrative dissonance, a couple of scenes don't make a difference
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
The whole download-situation just sounds like poison, to me.
As a Nintendo-only gamer, their "backwardness" sometimes saves. 20+GB *mandatory* installs are too common with big releases elsewhere.
I feel like I should inform you that both PS4 and Xbox One install the whole game these days. So they're not just too common, they're now the standard!
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Going digital only so it's hard to give a damn about these "packs."
Most of Saga's narrative dissonance comes from the trainwreck called Ep. II. Namco, in deciding that male rpg heroes focus grouped better, fired Soraya Saga when she refused to rewrite Ep. II and the rest of the series to have Rubedo as the main character. Namco decided they could write and design the games/series better by committee. And it's why Ep. II has a split character focus between Shion and Rubedo and why the plot seems to go completely off the rails somewhere around the halfway point (where the Soraya Saga written scenes end). After the backlash to II, they re-inserted most of Soraya Saga's already written material into Ep. III.
It's a shame that Ep. II was bad, because bad censorship and localization changes aside, Ep. III is a fantastic game and the best in the trilogy. Not to mention some of the shared plot details from her that never happened were much better than what we got.
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
Most of Saga's narrative dissonance comes from the trainwreck called Ep. II. Namco, in deciding that male rpg heroes focus grouped better, fired Soraya Saga when she refused to rewrite Ep. II and the rest of the series to have Rubedo as the main character. Namco decided they could write and design the games/series better by committee. And it's why Ep. II has a split character focus between Shion and Rubedo and why the plot seems to go completely off the rails somewhere around the halfway point (where the Soraya Saga written scenes end). After the backlash to II, they re-inserted most of Soraya Saga's already written material into Ep. III.
It's a shame that Ep. II was bad, because bad censorship and localization changes aside, Ep. III is a fantastic game and the best in the trilogy. Not to mention some of the shared plot details from her that never happened were much better than what we got.
I gave up on the franchise when Yasunori Mitsuda left
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
"They" being Not-Nintendo so it has nothing to do with this game.
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It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
"They" being Not-Nintendo so it has nothing to do with this game.
The Xeno series has always seemed to garner some major changes when localized regardless of publisher. Considering they all are products of the same people means that it does have similarities to the release of this game.
With that said, did Xenoblade have similar censoring?
Testament was one of 8 names of orgs, which all but two were changed and they didn't have religious references except that. Additionally L... I wonder what the final localized version is.
Edit: As for B.L.A.D.E. - To a normal native English speaker "Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipator" sounds like word diarrhea. Obviously if you think about it and break it apart into different phrases it works, but most people would look at it and balk. Particularly given the normal everyday usage of "logo/logos".
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
"They" being Not-Nintendo so it has nothing to do with this game.
The Xeno series has always seemed to garner some major changes when localized regardless of publisher. Considering they all are products of the same people means that it does have similarities to the release of this game.
With that said, did Xenoblade have similar censoring?
Biggest censoring I can remember in the original Xenoblade was changing the names of the faced mechon, mostly because Metal Face was named "Black Face" in Japan and NoE figured that wasn't going to fly over here.
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
"They" being Not-Nintendo so it has nothing to do with this game.
The Xeno series has always seemed to garner some major changes when localized regardless of publisher. Considering they all are products of the same people means that it does have similarities to the release of this game.
With that said, did Xenoblade have similar censoring?
Biggest censoring I can remember in the original Xenoblade was changing the names of the faced mechon, mostly because Metal Face was named "Black Face" in Japan and NoE figured that wasn't going to fly over here.
but his face isn't black at all
Marty: The future, it's where you're going? Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
It's just one in a number of questionable localization changes, along with removing multiple religious references and text references to past Xeno games.
... wow. The other changes didn't really faze me, but after the game would supposedly be "uncensored" ... this is disappointment enough.
May all eventual buyers still have fun.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
"They" being Not-Nintendo so it has nothing to do with this game.
The Xeno series has always seemed to garner some major changes when localized regardless of publisher. Considering they all are products of the same people means that it does have similarities to the release of this game.
With that said, did Xenoblade have similar censoring?
Biggest censoring I can remember in the original Xenoblade was changing the names of the faced mechon, mostly because Metal Face was named "Black Face" in Japan and NoE figured that wasn't going to fly over here.
but his face isn't black at all
The faced mechon had a sort of sentai team thing going in the original Japanese, where they were all named after colors, like red ranger, blue ranger, etc.
There was Black Face, Bronze Face, Silver Face, and Green Face, who became localized into Metal Face, Mysterious Face, Face Nemesis, and Jade Face respectively.
Yaldabaoth is the only exception, as it's called "Gold Face" in both versions of the game.
Well, as long as you're ok with the narrative also being "Women are one size fits all" and "Women B cup and lower don't exist"...
Then I guess this is a good thing...?
I'm not sure how to even respond to this, as I don't remotely understand how you could take that to be a "narrative". It's just the removal of a bust slider, and I'm sure if we could see inside the heads of the people making the decision, it has *nothing* to do with trying to sell any kind of narrative. It's just a kinda gross option to have when there's so little in the way of other options, and this one singles out women on top of that. In the modern climate where we are finally making some progress when it comes to the treatment of women in gaming and videogames themselves, this is a good thing, IMO.
You saying it's a good thing to remove the gross option of making big boobs means saying it's also a good thing to remove the gross option to make small ones. That it's one size for all women, and if they don't fit with the global standard, well too bad for them, they don't get to be represented.
If you're ok with that, then fine. Sounds like a pretty gross statement to me though.
If you're not, then you can reevaluate your original statement.
Your argument here is based on the assumption that the only reason anyone would want to change the size of a character's bust is sexualization.
The Xeno series has always seemed to garner some major changes when localized regardless of publisher. Considering they all are products of the same people means that it does have similarities to the release of this game.
With that said, did Xenoblade have similar censoring?
Outside of the above mentioned Face name changes, which were localization name changes and not censoring... no. Xenoblade (Wii) remains the only Xeno game in existence so far that both of these apply:
a) Wasn't meddled with corporately. Examples: Having half of their funding cut to be transferred to FFVII (Square) or having half of it canceled, key staff fired, and key plot points changed to 'chase a mainstream focus group audience' (Namco).
b) No content was cut or modified in the Localized version. (Xenosaga & Xenoblade Chronicles X for 'protect the children who are under the age of the ESRB rating and should be playing the game anyways' reasons it seems.)
And hey, Xenoblade turned out to be a Masterpiece instead of a 'could have potentially been a masterpiece' like Xenogears and Xenosaga. It stands the only Xeno game where the creators got to submit and complete and release their intended finished vision to a worldwide audience.
B.L.A.D.E fits right in with Government and Military acronyms, which are normally created by saying a word then filling in what the letters stand for instead of the other way around. The new acronym also fits this, but also takes out the religious meaning of humanity breaking free from the rules and chains of Destiny/God.
You can totally tell where the funding was cut in Xenogears. :?
That's awesome that they were able to release Xenoblade without any meddling. It must have felt nice for Takahashi.
There's still some unused huuuuuuuuuuuuuge areas in the game files you can visit by using cheats (I believe one is the other leg). They probably didn't have either the time or ideas to include them. But that's not a meddling thing. There's cut content in pretty much every game in existance.
In a narrative sense the game is fully complete, unlike Gears/Saga.
You can totally tell where the funding was cut in Xenogears. :?
That's awesome that they were able to release Xenoblade without any meddling. It must have felt nice for Takahashi.
There's still some unused huuuuuuuuuuuuuge areas in the game files you can visit by using cheats (I believe one is the other leg). They probably didn't have either the time or ideas to include them. But that's not a meddling thing. There's cut content in pretty much every game in existance.
In a narrative sense the game is fully complete, unlike Gears/Saga.
It's pretty funny, you can tell looking at it that they desperately wanted to pointlessly blow half their budget on giants, spiders, and High Entia cults, but somehow managed to hold themselves back.
You can totally tell where the funding was cut in Xenogears. :?
That's awesome that they were able to release Xenoblade without any meddling. It must have felt nice for Takahashi.
There's still some unused huuuuuuuuuuuuuge areas in the game files you can visit by using cheats (I believe one is the other leg). They probably didn't have either the time or ideas to include them. But that's not a meddling thing. There's cut content in pretty much every game in existance.
In a narrative sense the game is fully complete, unlike Gears/Saga.
Xenoblade's world is already enormous. Nobody is missing anything with that cut. Hell, a lot of the maps the story only takes you through half of what's there even.
You can totally tell where the funding was cut in Xenogears. :?
That's awesome that they were able to release Xenoblade without any meddling. It must have felt nice for Takahashi.
There's still some unused huuuuuuuuuuuuuge areas in the game files you can visit by using cheats (I believe one is the other leg). They probably didn't have either the time or ideas to include them. But that's not a meddling thing. There's cut content in pretty much every game in existance.
In a narrative sense the game is fully complete, unlike Gears/Saga.
Xenoblade's world is already enormous. Nobody is missing anything with that cut. Hell, a lot of the maps the story only takes you through half of what's there even.
luckily there's interminable fetch quests for the other half
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Those other changes to other games that Nintendo had nothing to do with so why even bring them up?
I think you people are being the goosiest of geese about this. Its a goddamn tit slider in a game where the only other body modifier is height.
But I'm not saying that at all. I'm not saying "Yay, they removed the ability to make big boobs". I'm saying it's good they removed the slider at all, as it never should've been one of the major defining characteristics of female character creation in the first place. I've made zero commentary on size, because I don't think that has anything to do with it.
edit: What religious/Xeno references have been removed? The only thing I've heard any mention of was a change to an acronym that didn't read well in English in the first place, which is, dare I say, the entire point of localization (as opposed to merely translation).
Well that's just a trade off for the world the game takes place in, which was obviously their main focus in development.
The player pack looks like it barely makes a difference
Which is good because I only have room for the basic pack
I really hope they'll make these packs available in Europe..so far we've heard nothing about them.
Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
Optional installs are poison?
As a Nintendo-only gamer, their "backwardness" sometimes saves. 20+GB *mandatory* installs are too common with big releases elsewhere.
He wasn't referring to XBX. The changes/removal of religious images and texts are not from the new game, they were from past Xenogames like Xenogears.
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No, I was talking about XBX. We don't have many specifics to go off of other than the B.L.A.D.E., Testament, Lu-Syphe, etc. known name changes because the game isn't out yet, but it was mentioned in the Treehouses that they were changing a lot of religious references and names (many of which are also references to past Xeno games).
It's not like the Xeno games haven't had bad censorship in the past. While Xenosaga Eps I and II had some censorship, Ep IIIs censorship was notoriously bad. Besides censoring things like multiple suicides and executions and extreme violence like head crushing in the Albedo scenes (which were all censored in the previous two games) they went further and did things like removing all the blood and visible injury to characters which leads to this laugh out loud narrative dissonance scene among others.
Mr. Clean was here. Compare the uncensored version.
The complete removal of Blood and injury also greatly diminishes the final mortal last stand of a character during the ending of the game.
And speaking of other terrible Xenosaga localization changes... they removed Rubedo's healthy attraction/crush for Shion (attraction of a 26-27year old to a 23-24 year old) and replaced it with a sexual attraction towards MOMO (who's 14-15) instead of the older brother relationship he had with her in the Japanese version. That's slightly insane.
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Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
I feel like I should inform you that both PS4 and Xbox One install the whole game these days. So they're not just too common, they're now the standard!
It's a shame that Ep. II was bad, because bad censorship and localization changes aside, Ep. III is a fantastic game and the best in the trilogy. Not to mention some of the shared plot details from her that never happened were much better than what we got.
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Interesting. I stand corrected. I know that some of the crazy censorship stuff they did with the past games. I hadn't realized that this one has just as much censoring. Thanks for the info.
It doesn't upset me or anything, but I can understand why some would be really upset at the changes.
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I gave up on the franchise when Yasunori Mitsuda left
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"They" being Not-Nintendo so it has nothing to do with this game.
The Xeno series has always seemed to garner some major changes when localized regardless of publisher. Considering they all are products of the same people means that it does have similarities to the release of this game.
With that said, did Xenoblade have similar censoring?
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Edit: As for B.L.A.D.E. - To a normal native English speaker "Beyond the Logos Artificial Destiny Emancipator" sounds like word diarrhea. Obviously if you think about it and break it apart into different phrases it works, but most people would look at it and balk. Particularly given the normal everyday usage of "logo/logos".
Biggest censoring I can remember in the original Xenoblade was changing the names of the faced mechon, mostly because Metal Face was named "Black Face" in Japan and NoE figured that wasn't going to fly over here.
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but his face isn't black at all
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The faced mechon had a sort of sentai team thing going in the original Japanese, where they were all named after colors, like red ranger, blue ranger, etc.
There was Black Face, Bronze Face, Silver Face, and Green Face, who became localized into Metal Face, Mysterious Face, Face Nemesis, and Jade Face respectively.
Yaldabaoth is the only exception, as it's called "Gold Face" in both versions of the game.
Your argument here is based on the assumption that the only reason anyone would want to change the size of a character's bust is sexualization.
Outside of the above mentioned Face name changes, which were localization name changes and not censoring... no. Xenoblade (Wii) remains the only Xeno game in existence so far that both of these apply:
a) Wasn't meddled with corporately. Examples: Having half of their funding cut to be transferred to FFVII (Square) or having half of it canceled, key staff fired, and key plot points changed to 'chase a mainstream focus group audience' (Namco).
b) No content was cut or modified in the Localized version. (Xenosaga & Xenoblade Chronicles X for 'protect the children who are under the age of the ESRB rating and should be playing the game anyways' reasons it seems.)
And hey, Xenoblade turned out to be a Masterpiece instead of a 'could have potentially been a masterpiece' like Xenogears and Xenosaga. It stands the only Xeno game where the creators got to submit and complete and release their intended finished vision to a worldwide audience.
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That's awesome that they were able to release Xenoblade without any meddling. It must have felt nice for Takahashi.
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B.L.A.D.E fits right in with Government and Military acronyms, which are normally created by saying a word then filling in what the letters stand for instead of the other way around. The new acronym also fits this, but also takes out the religious meaning of humanity breaking free from the rules and chains of Destiny/God.
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There's still some unused huuuuuuuuuuuuuge areas in the game files you can visit by using cheats (I believe one is the other leg). They probably didn't have either the time or ideas to include them. But that's not a meddling thing. There's cut content in pretty much every game in existance.
In a narrative sense the game is fully complete, unlike Gears/Saga.
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It's pretty funny, you can tell looking at it that they desperately wanted to pointlessly blow half their budget on giants, spiders, and High Entia cults, but somehow managed to hold themselves back.
Xenoblade's world is already enormous. Nobody is missing anything with that cut. Hell, a lot of the maps the story only takes you through half of what's there even.
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luckily there's interminable fetch quests for the other half
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