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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    Superhero combat, like most competitions, doesn't work on the commutative property. If I beat you at chess, that doesn't guarantee that some guy you once beat at chess won't win against me.

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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    The Squirrel Girl joke is fine, it just needs to stay as a joke.

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    ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    I always thought she was Marvel's answer to "Batman beats everyone", I mean she also beat Wolverine and Dr. Doom; the fact that it's in-continuity is the joke itself
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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Wait, can we start with the comic nerding? Cause I need to know if the Arena operates under Robo's ridiculous science megaphysics, or more standard superhero stuff.

    Don't forget Robo's own universe constantly breaks it's own rules just to irritate Robo

    Edit: Is Robo allowed to have Carl Sagan and Jenkins backing him up? If so, no contest

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    BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Yo people are talking about who the frontrunners are based on who is stronger but Geebs didn't you say this isn't going to just be "who is the most powerful hero and would win in a fight"? Like there are specific scenarios and we have to argue why Character X would be the best at underwater basket weaving versus the rest or who would be the best pirate or something

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    ElderlycrawfishElderlycrawfish Registered User regular
    Yep, it says as much as in the second post of this thread.

    Personally I'm waiting for the slam poetry round.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    If Nightcrawler is in the pirate match that's going to be a bamf in the park.

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    The Secret is there will be a matchup called " Who is greener" and we just all get banned

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    OmnipotentBagelOmnipotentBagel floof Registered User regular
    The Secret is there will be a matchup called " Who is greener" and we just all get banned

    New Thor would win that. She just started her superhero career a few issues ago.

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    Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From Beyond BeyondRegistered User regular
    Hints for Day Two:
    • The sixteen entrants today are from the Villains "Region"
    • Nine entrants appeared in the first villain tournament
    • Two entrants appeared in the inaugural hero tournament
    • Eight entrants are from DC. Eight entrants are from Marvel
    • One character has appeared in their own feature film
    • Ten characters have appeared in films
    • One will have appeared in a film by the time this contest begins

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Ok the two hero tournament entrants who are now villains are Superior Iron Man and maybe Superior Spider-Man? Or...Maybe Havok since he is currently inverted? I guess it could be a DC character that I won't think of since I'm not following anything from that.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    and the one from a film by the time it begins will be Ultron.

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Here's a link to the villain tournament, if anyone wants to take a look at it: http://forums.penny-arcade.com/discussion/8294/the-tournament-begins-rules-bitching

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Oh the other new villain might be Namor, I guess. I mean I don't know if I would call him a villain but he could definitely apply.

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    Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From Beyond BeyondRegistered User regular
    DOCTOR DOOM
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    Created by: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby
    Art by: Mike Wieringo

    GORILLA GRODD
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    Created by: John Broome and Carmine Infantino
    Art by: David Finch

    GREEN GOBLIN
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    Created by: Stan Lee and Steve Ditko
    Art by: Humberto Ramos

    LEX LUTHOR
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    Created by: Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster
    Art by: Leinil Yu

    MAGNETO
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    Created by: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby
    Art by: Chris Samnee

    SINESTRO
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    Created by: John Broome and Gil Kane
    Art by: Ethan Van Sciver

    THE JOKER
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    Created by: Jerry Robinson, Bill Finger and Bob Kane
    Art by: Brian Bolland

    ULTRON
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    Created by: Roy Thomas and John Buscema
    Art by: Aleksi Briclot

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    Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From Beyond BeyondRegistered User regular
    ELEKTRA
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    Created by: Frank Miller
    Art by: Mike Del Mundo

    EMMA FROST
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    Created by: Chris Claremont and John Byrne
    Art by: Stuart Immonen

    ENCHANTRESS
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    Created by: Stan Lee and Jack Kirby
    Art by: Walt Simonson

    HARLEY QUINN
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    Created by: Paul Dini and Bruce Timm
    Art by: Mike Huddleston

    KILLER FROST
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    Created by: Gerry Conway and Al Milgrom
    Art by: Tony S. Daniel

    MYSTIQUE
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    Created by: Dave Cockrum and Chris Claremont
    Art by: Ron Garney

    POISON IVY
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    Created by: Robert Kanigher and Sheldon Moldoff
    Art by: Stanley Lau

    SUPERWOMAN
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    Created by: Gardner Fox and Mike Sekowsky
    Art by: Alan Davis

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    RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    noted philanthropist and pillar of the community Lex Luthor?

    Everyday we stray further from God's light
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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Emma Frost in with the villains?

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Certain choices were made because: there's a scarcity of female villains, putting certain characters in the villain category opens up more room for other characters in other categories, and also: this isn't really a "pure" thing. Emma Frost and Elektra both had villainous origins, whatever their current alignments.

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    LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    Certain choices were made because: there's a scarcity of female villains, putting certain characters in the villain category opens up more room for other characters in other categories, and also: this isn't really a "pure" thing. Emma Frost and Elektra both had villainous origins, whatever their current alignments.

    after I posted my guesses, I thought oh you know 8 of these are probably women, and then I was like, what women villains...can I even think of

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

    She was resurrected by the Hand(which makes you auto-evil) after being killed by Bullseye and until recently she's been a villian for awhile.

    Emma Frost is Emma Frost. She dosen't really qualify for hero or villian, but you can pretty easily put her in either catagory, much like Namor.

    If this were a straight up fight, Emma Frost rampages across this roster with the exception of Doom, Ultron, and Mags who all have anti-telepathy measures/is a robot.

    Mags is an interesting thought exercise. He would easily trump Default Ultron and Default Doom, who are the two heavy hitters, but would probably have trouble with Superwoman, and would have an all out war against Sinestro. But then again, he dosen't have a fight here where he would straight up lose.

    Sinestro could theoretically beat everyone on this list, but Grodd, Emma and Enchantress would bend him over backwards, and he would have too many tough fights with Ultron, Mags, Doom, Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost.

    Ultron is a pretty solid choice. But he Auto-loses to Mag's, get's beat the hell out of by Superwoman, and has a war against Doom.

    Doom is also a great choice, but he auto-loses to Mags, would have trouble against Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost, get's into a war with Enchantress.


    So, in a straight up fight, I would have to say Mag's is the favorite, with Emma being a Dark Horse since if this were broken up by gender, she would annihilate the female division and if things broke right and she got Sinestro, she would win the whole thing.

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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

    I mean she's an assassin

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    Langly wrote: »
    Certain choices were made because: there's a scarcity of female villains, putting certain characters in the villain category opens up more room for other characters in other categories, and also: this isn't really a "pure" thing. Emma Frost and Elektra both had villainous origins, whatever their current alignments.

    after I posted my guesses, I thought oh you know 8 of these are probably women, and then I was like, what women villains...can I even think of

    this was easily the hardest category to fill in terms of women, and it had some of the hardest cuts to make on the men's side, like...we had a whole villains tournament, so limiting it to 16 was super rough

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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

    She was resurrected by the Hand(which makes you auto-evil) after being killed by Bullseye and until recently she's been a villian for awhile.

    Emma Frost is Emma Frost. She dosen't really qualify for hero or villian, but you can pretty easily put her in either catagory, much like Namor.

    If this were a straight up fight, Emma Frost rampages across this roster with the exception of Doom, Ultron, and Mags who all have anti-telepathy measures/is a robot.

    Mags is an interesting thought exercise. He would easily trump Default Ultron and Default Doom, who are the two heavy hitters, but would probably have trouble with Superwoman, and would have an all out war against Sinestro. But then again, he dosen't have a fight here where he would straight up lose.

    Sinestro could theoretically beat everyone on this list, but Grodd, Emma and Enchantress would bend him over backwards, and he would have too many tough fights with Ultron, Mags, Doom, Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost.

    Ultron is a pretty solid choice. But he Auto-loses to Mag's, get's beat the hell out of by Superwoman, and has a war against Doom.

    Doom is also a great choice, but he auto-loses to Mags, would have trouble against Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost, get's into a war with Enchantress.


    So, in a straight up fight, I would have to say Mag's is the favorite, with Emma being a Dark Horse since if this were broken up by gender, she would annihilate the female division and if things broke right and she got Sinestro, she would win the whole thing.

    I'm not really sure why Doom would be an auto-lose to Magneto. If Iron Man is smart enough to have a non-magnetic suit, Doom certainly is. Same thing applies to Ultron.

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    TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

    She was resurrected by the Hand(which makes you auto-evil) after being killed by Bullseye and until recently she's been a villian for awhile.

    Emma Frost is Emma Frost. She dosen't really qualify for hero or villian, but you can pretty easily put her in either catagory, much like Namor.

    If this were a straight up fight, Emma Frost rampages across this roster with the exception of Doom, Ultron, and Mags who all have anti-telepathy measures/is a robot.

    Mags is an interesting thought exercise. He would easily trump Default Ultron and Default Doom, who are the two heavy hitters, but would probably have trouble with Superwoman, and would have an all out war against Sinestro. But then again, he dosen't have a fight here where he would straight up lose.

    Sinestro could theoretically beat everyone on this list, but Grodd, Emma and Enchantress would bend him over backwards, and he would have too many tough fights with Ultron, Mags, Doom, Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost.

    Ultron is a pretty solid choice. But he Auto-loses to Mag's, get's beat the hell out of by Superwoman, and has a war against Doom.

    Doom is also a great choice, but he auto-loses to Mags, would have trouble against Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost, get's into a war with Enchantress.


    So, in a straight up fight, I would have to say Mag's is the favorite, with Emma being a Dark Horse since if this were broken up by gender, she would annihilate the female division and if things broke right and she got Sinestro, she would win the whole thing.

    I'm not really sure why Doom would be an auto-lose to Magneto. If Iron Man is smart enough to have a non-magnetic suit, Doom certainly is. Same thing applies to Ultron.

    I'm just referring specifically to Default Doom and Default Ultron.

    Which you kind of have to use if you're talking about fights involving those two characters, since they specifically have contingency plans for specific people and situations.

    If you don't, you end up falling into "preperation" hole arguments and you just end up spouting off counters of counters of counters.

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    BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Fair enough.

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    If you need another villainess/antihero, there's always Moonstone.

    But how can anyone defeat such perfection *swoon*......

    *fingers crossed for Krypto to show up*

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I didn't put Krypto in because I want this to be an actual competition

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    TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    that reads like it could go either way so I'll take it as win!

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

    She was resurrected by the Hand(which makes you auto-evil) after being killed by Bullseye and until recently she's been a villian for awhile.

    Emma Frost is Emma Frost. She dosen't really qualify for hero or villian, but you can pretty easily put her in either catagory, much like Namor.

    If this were a straight up fight, Emma Frost rampages across this roster with the exception of Doom, Ultron, and Mags who all have anti-telepathy measures/is a robot.

    Mags is an interesting thought exercise. He would easily trump Default Ultron and Default Doom, who are the two heavy hitters, but would probably have trouble with Superwoman, and would have an all out war against Sinestro. But then again, he dosen't have a fight here where he would straight up lose.

    Sinestro could theoretically beat everyone on this list, but Grodd, Emma and Enchantress would bend him over backwards, and he would have too many tough fights with Ultron, Mags, Doom, Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost.

    Ultron is a pretty solid choice. But he Auto-loses to Mag's, get's beat the hell out of by Superwoman, and has a war against Doom.

    Doom is also a great choice, but he auto-loses to Mags, would have trouble against Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost, get's into a war with Enchantress.


    So, in a straight up fight, I would have to say Mag's is the favorite, with Emma being a Dark Horse since if this were broken up by gender, she would annihilate the female division and if things broke right and she got Sinestro, she would win the whole thing.

    I'm not really sure why Doom would be an auto-lose to Magneto. If Iron Man is smart enough to have a non-magnetic suit, Doom certainly is. Same thing applies to Ultron.

    But who cares who is wearing metal , when Doom vs Magneto is going to be a Poetry Slam

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Can we get super crazy with the events, I mean telepaths exist in this universe.

    How about the 100 meter dash, but your brain gets reversed, left is right right is left, up is down, etc

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    Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From Beyond BeyondRegistered User regular
    Hints for today's 16 contestants:
    • These contestants are from the DC "Region"
    • Seven competitors made an appearance in the first hero tournament
    • Two characters share a superhero name with competitors from the first superhero tournament
    • The first five letters of two entrants are the same. The first five letters of two other entrants are the same.
    • There are two girls, two women, and three "mans"
    • Three characters have birds in their names
    • No characters have "planes" in their name

    Brief programming note: actual roster reveals might go up a little later than noon central today. I'll try and keep everyone posted

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    DelduwathDelduwath Registered User regular
    Langly wrote: »
    Is elektra a villain? Does she do villainous things? I guess I really don't actually know

    She was resurrected by the Hand(which makes you auto-evil) after being killed by Bullseye and until recently she's been a villian for awhile.

    Emma Frost is Emma Frost. She dosen't really qualify for hero or villian, but you can pretty easily put her in either catagory, much like Namor.

    If this were a straight up fight, Emma Frost rampages across this roster with the exception of Doom, Ultron, and Mags who all have anti-telepathy measures/is a robot.

    Mags is an interesting thought exercise. He would easily trump Default Ultron and Default Doom, who are the two heavy hitters, but would probably have trouble with Superwoman, and would have an all out war against Sinestro. But then again, he dosen't have a fight here where he would straight up lose.

    Sinestro could theoretically beat everyone on this list, but Grodd, Emma and Enchantress would bend him over backwards, and he would have too many tough fights with Ultron, Mags, Doom, Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost.

    Ultron is a pretty solid choice. But he Auto-loses to Mag's, get's beat the hell out of by Superwoman, and has a war against Doom.

    Doom is also a great choice, but he auto-loses to Mags, would have trouble against Superwoman, and possibly even Killer Frost, get's into a war with Enchantress.


    So, in a straight up fight, I would have to say Mag's is the favorite, with Emma being a Dark Horse since if this were broken up by gender, she would annihilate the female division and if things broke right and she got Sinestro, she would win the whole thing.

    I'm not really sure why Doom would be an auto-lose to Magneto. If Iron Man is smart enough to have a non-magnetic suit, Doom certainly is. Same thing applies to Ultron.

    But who cares who is wearing metal , when Doom vs Magneto is going to be a Poetry Slam
    It's actually a heavy metal band competition.

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    UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    Hints for today's 16 contestants:
    • These contestants are from the DC "Region"
    • Seven competitors made an appearance in the first hero tournament
    • Two characters share a superhero name with competitors from the first superhero tournament
    • The first five letters of two entrants are the same. The first five letters of two other entrants are the same.
    • There are two girls, two women, and three "mans"
    • Three characters have birds in their names
    • No characters have "planes" in their name

    Brief programming note: actual roster reveals might go up a little later than noon central today. I'll try and keep everyone posted

    The shared 5 letters are Super and Green. Superman, Supergirl, Green Lantern, Green Arrow.
    The birds... Black Canary, Robin (Damian Wayne), and Hawkman?
    Batgirl, Wonder Woman
    Gonna guess Martian Manhunter for the last "man", and Batwoman for the last "woman". Catwoman will be saved for the Villain's bracket as female villains are harder to come by. Catwoman is more interesting than Batwoman, especially with Batman and Batgirl already included.

    As for sharing a superhero name with competitors from the first tournament, I wasn't around for that and can't be bothered to look it up

    edit: oh, the villain list above was Marvel/DC combined, right. Catwoman it is then.

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    Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From Beyond BeyondRegistered User regular
    edited April 2015
    BLACK CANARY
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    Created by: Robert Kanigher and Carmine Infantino
    Art by: Cliff Chiang

    CATWOMAN
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    Created by: Bob Kane and Bill Finger
    Art by: Terry and Rachel Dodson

    HAWKGIRL
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    Created by: Gardner Fox, Dennis Neville and Sheldon Moldoff
    Art by: John Cassaday

    RAVEN
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    Created by: Marv Wolfman and Greg Perez
    Art by: Julian Lopez

    SUPERGIRL
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    Created by: Otto Binder, Al Plastino and Curt Swan
    Art by: Mahmoud Asrar

    VIXEN
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    Created by: Gerry Conway and Bob Oksner
    Art by: JG Jones

    WONDER WOMAN
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    Created by: William Moulton Marston
    Art by: Cliff Chiang

    ZATANNA
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    Created by: Gardner Fox and Murphy Anderson
    Art by: Joseph A. Quinones Jr.

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    Son of BeyonderSon of Beyonder From Beyond BeyondRegistered User regular
    AQUAMAN
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    Created by: Mort Weisinger and Paul Norris
    Art by: Paul Pelletier, Sean Parsons and Rod Reis

    BATMAN
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    Created by: Bill Finger and Bob Kane
    Art by: Neal Adams

    CYBORG
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    Created by: Marv Wolfman and George Perez
    Art by: Ivan Reis and Joe Prado

    GREEN ARROW
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    Created by: Mort Weisinger and George Papp
    Art by: Mauro Cascioli

    GREEN LANTERN
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    Created by: Dennis O'Neil and Neil Adams
    Art by: Jim Lee

    MARTIAN MANHUNTER
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    Created by: Joseph Samachson and Joe Certa
    Art by: Tom Mandrake

    SUPERMAN
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    Created by: Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster
    Art by: Gary Frank

    THE FLASH
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    Created by: Robert Canigher and Carmine Infantino
    Art by: Francis Manapaul and Brian Buccallato

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    Whoever fights the Flash, the competition should be "Who can sit still the longest"

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    DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    I just looked up the stipulation on the Flash's match and started laughing, so look forward to that

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    WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    I just looked up the stipulation on the Flash's match and started laughing, so look forward to that

    Does he have to run a three legged race with Turtle Man?

    Steam! Battlenet:Wisemantobes#1508
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