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  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    Reed's main power is his intellect. The stretchy part is just a bonus.

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Reed's main power is his intellect. The stretchy part is just a bonus.

    Regardless, you still need to show him using his power. He didn't get the name Mr Fantastic and be a member of the fantastic four for his intellect. He got it because he is real stretchy.

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  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Reed's main power is his intellect. The stretchy part is just a bonus.

    Regardless, you still need to show him using his power. He didn't get the name Mr Fantastic and be a member of the fantastic four for his intellect. He got it because he is real stretchy.

    That's kind of false. He's solving problems with his brain and usually a gadget he invents. Sure, he packs a mean punch too. Or can change the channel on an old school turn dial tv from the couch.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Reed destroys civilizations and intergalactic deities with his genius, that's why the Skrulls and Kree Empires run for their lives when they hear his name. His stretching power is dull in comparison.

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  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Reed's main power is his intellect. The stretchy part is just a bonus.

    Regardless, you still need to show him using his power. He didn't get the name Mr Fantastic and be a member of the fantastic four for his intellect. He got it because he is real stretchy.

    Reed is called Mr. Fantastic because Richards realized that he had to make the FF into family-friendly celebrities to prevent them from being exploited by the government and hated by the common man, so they all got cute names and cheery costumes. That's been part of the FF story since the first issues, and it's the one take that I think Hollywood could get right - the superhero as manufactured celebrity.

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  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Reed's main power is his intellect. The stretchy part is just a bonus.

    Regardless, you still need to show him using his power. He didn't get the name Mr Fantastic and be a member of the fantastic four for his intellect. He got it because he is real stretchy.

    Reed is called Mr. Fantastic because Richards realized that he had to make the FF into family-friendly celebrities to prevent them from being exploited by the government and hated by the common man, so they all got cute names and cheery costumes. That's been part of the FF story since the first issues, and it's the one take that I think Hollywood could get right - the superhero as manufactured celebrity.

    When I first heard Josh Trank was attached to the film I suddenly became real excited at the possibility of the Fant4stic being a mockumentary which in-universe was produced by Reed Richards as a PR stunt.

  • Mego ThorMego Thor "I say thee...NAY!" Registered User regular
    joshgotro wrote: »
    Disco11 wrote: »
    Mego Thor wrote: »
    Reed's main power is his intellect. The stretchy part is just a bonus.

    Regardless, you still need to show him using his power. He didn't get the name Mr Fantastic and be a member of the fantastic four for his intellect. He got it because he is real stretchy.

    That's kind of false. He's solving problems with his brain and usually a gadget he invents. Sure, he packs a mean punch too. Or can change the channel on an old school turn dial tv from the couch.

    It mostly comes in handy for grabbing things on the other side of the lab without having to get up.

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  • Disco11Disco11 Registered User regular
    What I was trying to say is that you still have to show him using his powers and his powers look silly on screen. I get that his intellect is the real reason Reed is a major player in the Marvel universe. But we have had 3 x movies about a really smart inventor already.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    What I was trying to say is that you still have to show him using his powers and his powers look silly on screen. I get that his intellect is the real reason Reed is a major player in the Marvel universe. But we have had 3 x movies about a really smart inventor already.

    That severely undercuts his personality, and he's a different sort of inventor to Tony.

  • Linespider5Linespider5 ALL HAIL KING KILLMONGER Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    What I was trying to say is that you still have to show him using his powers and his powers look silly on screen. I get that his intellect is the real reason Reed is a major player in the Marvel universe. But we have had 3 x movies about a really smart inventor already.

    Well, there's a few ways to show a stretchy guy. The main thing I'd go with is something visually akin to Spider-Man's webslinging, only it's his whole goddamn arm reaching for that ledge.

    Mr Fantastic's ability to stretch needs to be demonstrated as something powerful. A little scary looking, if shit's getting real, but powerful. Don't play it for comedy. Reed guides a team with someone who can make forcefields and turn invisible, someone who can fly, and someone who is very very strong and is damn near unstoppable. He doesn't start stretching around and doing limbwork unless Sue, Ben and Johnny are in over their heads.

  • ZavianZavian universal peace sounds better than forever war Registered User regular
    Mr. Fantastic without his intellect is basically Flatman
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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Disco11 wrote: »
    What I was trying to say is that you still have to show him using his powers and his powers look silly on screen. I get that his intellect is the real reason Reed is a major player in the Marvel universe. But we have had 3 x movies about a really smart inventor already.

    Well, there's a few ways to show a stretchy guy. The main thing I'd go with is something visually akin to Spider-Man's webslinging, only it's his whole goddamn arm reaching for that ledge.

    Mr Fantastic's ability to stretch needs to be demonstrated as something powerful. A little scary looking, if shit's getting real, but powerful. Don't play it for comedy. Reed guides a team with someone who can make forcefields and turn invisible, someone who can fly, and someone who is very very strong and is damn near unstoppable. He doesn't start stretching around and doing limbwork unless Sue, Ben and Johnny are in over their heads.

    Reed is terrifying with his elasticity in fighting. He uses martial arts like ju-jitsu to break bones. IIRC he's able to give himself super strength by exploiting his abilities a certain way. Dude's a beast.

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    they let ultimate reed be a lot more creative with the stretching applications (although part of it I'm sure was just wanting to make him seem creepy)

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    I haven't seen the Ultimate version of Reed, but giving the Ultimate universe is their 'I DARE you to do this shit!' on a good day dumping ground I can just see a creepy Reed running around.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    I haven't seen the Ultimate version of Reed, but giving the Ultimate universe is their 'I DARE you to do this shit!' on a good day dumping ground I can just see a creepy Reed running around.

    That Reed was post Miller/Loeb for the most part, and was really spearheaded by Hickman after being set up by Bendis.

  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    I haven't seen the Ultimate version of Reed, but giving the Ultimate universe is their 'I DARE you to do this shit!' on a good day dumping ground I can just see a creepy Reed running around.

    He became a super-villain, the Maker.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    That just looks stupid. I bet he beat Sue too.

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That just looks stupid. I bet he beat Sue too.

    I feel like you're letting the earlier ultimate universe comics color your opinions on the modern stuff. It hasn't been ''I DARE you to do this shit!' for over half a decade now. (Jeph Loeb's Ultimatum was the last hurrah of the truly terrible shit.)

    Well, aside from Ultimate Spider-Man, which was never like that to begin with.

  • joshgotrojoshgotro Deviled Egg The Land of REAL CHILIRegistered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    I haven't seen the Ultimate version of Reed, but giving the Ultimate universe is their 'I DARE you to do this shit!' on a good day dumping ground I can just see a creepy Reed running around.

    He became a super-villain, the Maker.

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    Such a good bad guy too.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That just looks stupid. I bet he beat Sue too.

    Nah, UFF was pretty good.

  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That just looks stupid. I bet he beat Sue too.

    Nah, UFF was pretty good.
    UFF was terrible.

    Ultimate Reed turning evil is pretty great though.

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  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That just looks stupid. I bet he beat Sue too.

    Nah, UFF was pretty good.
    UFF was terrible.

    Ultimate Reed turning evil is pretty great though.

    Nah. The Ultimate FF's arcs, from Warren Ellis' teenage FF coming together to Reed constantly winning by fucking up to fighting alternative universe zombie FF to Reed going evil, are all pretty solid. The Ultimates issues with Evil Reed returning to build his future world are the first time I realized how great Robert Hickman could be on a Marvel team book.

    There's a lot of solid stuff in the Ultimate Universe. There's a reason that the best parts became the building blocks of both the modern Marvel status quo and the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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  • nightmarennynightmarenny Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    That just looks stupid. I bet he beat Sue too.

    Nah, UFF was pretty good.
    UFF was terrible.

    Ultimate Reed turning evil is pretty great though.

    Nah. The Ultimate FF's arcs, from Warren Ellis' teenage FF coming together to Reed constantly winning by fucking up to fighting alternative universe zombie FF to Reed going evil, are all pretty solid. The Ultimates issues with Evil Reed returning to build his future world are the first time I realized how great Robert Hickman could be on a Marvel team book.

    There's a lot of solid stuff in the Ultimate Universe. There's a reason that the best parts became the building blocks of both the modern Marvel status quo and the Marvel Cinematic Universe.

    Reed turning evil wasn't a part of UFF. There were like 13 arcs of UFF and they were mostly wheel spinning nonsense.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Registered User regular
    And half-assed retreads of 616 stories.

    Basically like Ultimate X-Men.

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  • SatanIsMyMotorSatanIsMyMotor Fuck Warren Ellis Registered User regular
    UFF was one of the better Ultimate books IMO. Pasqual Ferry was a baller artist also.

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  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    promo art for the Civil War teams http://comicsalliance.com/captain-america-civil-war-promo-art-teams/
    Iron Man, War Machine, Black Panther, Black Widow, The Vision vs. Cap, Falcon (w/ drone Redwing), Ant-Man, Bucky(!), Hawkeye, Agent 13

    Marvel is keeping Spider-Man's "look" under wraps so I guess he's not in it, no word on where Scarlet Witch is supposed to be



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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    Well they sure nailed that watercolor style real nicely. It's cool to see them giving it a distinct look of its own, at least based on the trailer.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    promo art for the Civil War teams http://comicsalliance.com/captain-america-civil-war-promo-art-teams/
    Iron Man, War Machine, Black Panther, Black Widow, The Vision vs. Cap, Falcon (w/ drone Redwing), Ant-Man, Bucky(!), Hawkeye, Agent 13

    Marvel is keeping Spider-Man's "look" under wraps so I guess he's not in it, no word on where Scarlet Witch is supposed to be

    Spoiler
    Spider-man will look like Spider-man.

  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
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  • NogsNogs Crap, crap, mega crap. Crap, crap, mega crap.Registered User regular
    withholding judgement until i see it in motion.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field njRegistered User regular
    People basically say that about every single costume from every single super hero film/TV show ever the first time they see a poorly lit photo of it in Entertainment Weekly.

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    And they didn't.
    So he died.
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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Well they sure nailed that watercolor style real nicely. It's cool to see them giving it a distinct look of its own, at least based on the trailer.

    It'll sure be its own thing if it looks anything like that teaser!

  • M-TeeM-Tee Registered User regular
    Looks very much like a community-theater level budgeted response to AoU's Vision. I dug it from a distance. The colors are solid. But, the material and design of the suit and the consistency of the makeup look so amateurish. I dig the plastic molded headpiece though.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    I think Entertainment Weekly purposely takes bad photos, or asks the set to give them bad photos.

    The BvS stuff before SDCC was super weak.

  • Mike DangerMike Danger "Diane..." a place both wonderful and strangeRegistered User regular
    People basically say that about every single costume from every single super hero film/TV show ever the first time they see a poorly lit photo of it in Entertainment Weekly.

    I want to chisel this into a fucking stone tablet and lift it over my head on a mountaintop

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  • TomantaTomanta Registered User regular
    People basically say that about every single costume from every single super hero film/TV show ever the first time they see a poorly lit photo of it in Entertainment Weekly.

    I want to chisel this into a fucking stone tablet and lift it over my head on a mountaintop

    You'd just spot a poorly lit superhero costume, drop the tablet, then have to chisel it all over again.

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    Ant-man sequel announced, and it will be called "Ant-man and the Wasp"

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Yay!

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  • cshadow42cshadow42 Registered User regular
    Wow, the new Jessica Jones trailer came out, and it is incredibly dark.

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