It is pretty damn close that to my ears I hear no difference and I guarantee you it is WAY closer to the correct pronunciation then whatever that streamer thinks it should be.
Granted, she has a bit American accent when she says it, but I wouldn't knock points off her score for that.
I don't know what to tell you, I've heard it pronounced the "other" way a lot more often.
Whether you've heard it pronounced the other way or not doesn't change the fact that her pronunciation isn't actually an incorrect one and therefore reacting poorly to it is kinda silly. The worst part of it is that streamer acting so strongly to it. Like maybe don't jump to conclusions about a language you don't actually speak!
So basically people getting pissed because she's not saying it the way we gaijin are used to saying it.
Pretty much. English speaking people in my experience have a tendency to pronounce Japanese names as two separate syllables. In this case, Sakamoto as Saka-Moto, but that isn't how you actually pronounce it.
I guess it'd be the English equivalent of pronouncing Johnson as John-Son. Like, it kind of sounds right, but in reality the two syllables flow together without a break.
Edit- Oh another fun one is Masamune which I have never heard pronounced by an English speaker correctly. It is more like maSOMune.
She's making the same mistake you're making here; putting the accent on the second syllable. In Japanese, the accent is always on the first syllable.
So it's MAsamune and SAkamoto.
It's better than the usual gaijin way of butchering Japanese names, which is to lengthen the hell out of one of the vowels instead of pronouncing each syllable the same length, but it still sounds very wrong to anyone who speaks Japanese.
Plus she hits the K way too hard, like a sforzando. Since Japanese does have doubled consonants, that's turning the name into Sakkamoto. (Although even that wouldn't be quite as hard as she hits that k here.)
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Man if this thread turns into this im gonna pce out for about 4-6 weeks
The prosody is different. I don't mind something like this, it's not even unusual. In addition, differences like these are basically undetectable to many people. But, nah, that's not the same.
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Strange Journey as a remake wouldn't have been my first choice, since I still have the original game, but I'm happy about this none-the-less. Adding more content to an already packed game, with QoL improvements (fusing will probably be one area they improve) is certainly not something to complain about. I'll be grabbing it when it launches over here for sure.
This probably speaks poorly of me as a SMT player, but I hope they at least tone down Sector Eridanus a bit. There's challenging dungeon design, there's tedious dungeon design, and then there's Sector Eridanus.
350 is about the same as the old number of demons. Thet're trying to make it sound like a remake-thing, aren't they?
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There's going to be more save points, and I assume some kind of marker system for Eridanus and the like.
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and i just booted up nocturne again
gonna try to get true demon ending before next tuesday
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Also just a note on the pronunciation thing, it has been confirmed that the pronunciations are that way as was specifically requested from Atlus Japan thus why all the characters pronounce it that way. So no, nothing is wrong with it.
Also just a note on the pronunciation thing, it has been confirmed that the pronunciations are that way as was specifically requested from Atlus Japan thus why all the characters pronounce it that way. So no, nothing is wrong with it.
Cool. Now I hope we can stop arguing about that and start being super hyped that we are 8 days out from P5. I am all kinds of excited for this.
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Also just a note on the pronunciation thing, it has been confirmed that the pronunciations are that way as was specifically requested from Atlus Japan thus why all the characters pronounce it that way. So no, nothing is wrong with it.
Cool. Now I hope we can stop arguing about that and start being super hyped that we are 8 days out from P5. I am all kinds of excited for this.
Super HYPED!
Although I may start a bit delayed because of Mass Effect.
Upside is that gets me more of the Persona DLC to grab right at the start.
Also I must start a spreadsheet on what Persona to get from each area to make a good Lucifer for end game.
See, I'm so excited that Mass Effect has up until P5 arrives, and then its getting tossed aside. Once I get home on the 4th, its going to be all about that Persona.
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That explains the jailing, phantom thief.
(So jelly.)
Whether you've heard it pronounced the other way or not doesn't change the fact that her pronunciation isn't actually an incorrect one and therefore reacting poorly to it is kinda silly. The worst part of it is that streamer acting so strongly to it. Like maybe don't jump to conclusions about a language you don't actually speak!
She's making the same mistake you're making here; putting the accent on the second syllable. In Japanese, the accent is always on the first syllable.
So it's MAsamune and SAkamoto.
It's better than the usual gaijin way of butchering Japanese names, which is to lengthen the hell out of one of the vowels instead of pronouncing each syllable the same length, but it still sounds very wrong to anyone who speaks Japanese.
Plus she hits the K way too hard, like a sforzando. Since Japanese does have doubled consonants, that's turning the name into Sakkamoto. (Although even that wouldn't be quite as hard as she hits that k here.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tc_WJO8wzQ
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Holy shit, the amount of nerds triggered by this is DEPRESSING!!
Maybe try that
The prosody is different. I don't mind something like this, it's not even unusual. In addition, differences like these are basically undetectable to many people. But, nah, that's not the same.
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Expect absolutely nothing! (Etrian Mystery Dungeon 2 so far)
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Strange Journey is back! Seriously.
i love SJ
more content and QOL improvements?
hell yes
(now just port nocturne and dds and devil summoner to Ps4)
I wonder if passwords will still be incredible bullshit that can do anything. DS-games with console-commands are weird.
gonna try to get true demon ending before next tuesday
Cool. Now I hope we can stop arguing about that and start being super hyped that we are 8 days out from P5. I am all kinds of excited for this.
Super HYPED!
Although I may start a bit delayed because of Mass Effect.
Upside is that gets me more of the Persona DLC to grab right at the start.
Also I must start a spreadsheet on what Persona to get from each area to make a good Lucifer for end game.
Yessss. Yes I should get started on that today..
buh? What's up with FFXV?
They're redoing one of the later chapters for something. Really killed my motivation to prioritize it for play time.
UGHHHH
Now that's what really matters.
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A physical guide doesn't seem to exist, sadly. Otherwise I'd say definitely that option.
ME:A doesn't have much to fix to be honest. Some animation jank(but don't they all?) but game wise it's super rad.
It's not like content getting added that you have to wait for.
Easily my second fav ME game.
Dunno, is Hiimdaisy gonna make another comic series? Because really, that's where all the memes came from anyway.
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They're making the spells kill things faster. That's the something.
It also adds new scenes.
Yep, it expands on
I just want another Endurance Run.
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