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[The Flash]: Wally Goes West (SPOILERS)

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    So thanks Flash arrow spoilers I guess?

    Oliver lives to 86? God damn and I thought supernatural had too many seasons...

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    MorblitzMorblitz Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    skeldare wrote: »
    Can't wait for next week, though wish it was a 2 hour season finale.

    Though, I might be a little confused but re: Barry/Lyla
    How was he able to call her to get Oliver? Wasn't she still being held by Ra's or did I miss something on Arrow?

    @Skeldare The episodes are airing out of order because the Arrow took a week off but the Flash kept airing.
    So Flash is 1 episode ahead in the airing timeline and by then a bunch of stuff has probably been sorted out in Arrow which might be why he was able to be reached.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    THAT WAS SO GOOD. HOLY SHIT THAT FERRIS AIR REFERENCE.

    This is my favorite show. AoS is also amazing, but holy shit this show.
    Ray Palmer nanites! Wheelchair battery! That fight at the end! Wells stealing Cisco's soda!

    This is the best show.'

    So next week's preview, I wonder if we're gonna get
    "You're not Oliver, Oliver died on that raft, Oliver died and you lived... you're his father... Robert Queen." Cause Bruce isn't around!

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Morblitz wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    Can't wait for next week, though wish it was a 2 hour season finale.

    Though, I might be a little confused but re: Barry/Lyla
    How was he able to call her to get Oliver? Wasn't she still being held by Ra's or did I miss something on Arrow?

    @Skeldare The episodes are airing out of order because the Arrow took a week off but the Flash kept airing.
    So Flash is 1 episode ahead in the airing timeline and by then a bunch of stuff has probably been sorted out in Arrow which might be why he was able to be reached.

    I guess that makes sense... damn television and weird scheduling.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Man, if someone told me a few years ago that I would be watching Green Arrow do kung fu to Reverse-Flash in live action I would have called that person a liar and then followed them home to poop on their lawn like an unruly dog.

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    XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    It was all great except for Joe's complete lack of response to what the hell is Barry supposed to do with all the super powered killers they have locked up. That entire plot line was filled with stupid of one form or another.

    Rest was great, though, so overall what everyone already said.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    I'm so disappointed in this show. They never show us anything about how the meta prison works, and Joe never raises any concerns about its illegality.
    I kid, I kid!

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Everyone is going to want this .gif anyways

    http://i.imgur.com/tq3lczl.gif

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    MancingtomMancingtom Registered User regular
    I think the only viable solution to the meta prison problem is to make Joe and Eddie into a "Metahuman Task Force," then deputize Cisco and Caitlin into that team. Use the Pipeline as temporary holding while Iron Heights constructs cells specifically tailored to the meta in question. It probably wouldn't take very long to make a mirrored cell, or one that was airtight. Might take a bit longer to build one Mardon can't tear down.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Who buys return labels? Also Eddie good lord you are terrible, like Iris level bad.

    For everyone else who thought Peekaboo was not a bad meta, I hope you learned your lesson.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    I'll give Eddie a pass since he's right and he clearly has PTSD

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    MancingtomMancingtom Registered User regular
    I'll give Eddie a pass since he's right and he clearly has PTSD

    From being kidnapped or dating Iris?

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    KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Everyone is going to want this .gif anyways

    http://i.imgur.com/tq3lczl.gif

    The amount of times I smiled or said "Oh man!" during the course of this show has been too many to count.

    Just captures the fun and goofinest of comics perfectly and somehow makes it work.

    There's more joy and respect for the source material in five minutes of Flash than there was in the entire of MoS.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'll give Eddie a pass since he's right and he clearly has PTSD

    Yeah we know he's right, but how the hell do you trust crazy ass not wells and his magic future machine? Its not like he predicted anything else you can trust. I mean at this point all Barry would have had to do to break them up is have a joke paper made that said he and Iris have like 9 kids dated one year later and bam eddie would have broken up with her.

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    Ninja Snarl PNinja Snarl P My helmet is my burden. Ninja Snarl: Gone, but not forgotten.Registered User regular
    In my brain, I know "costume ring" is dumb. In my heart, all I can hear is "COSTUME RIIIIIIIING!"

    Doesn't hurt that the way they had it work was fucking awesome.
    Preacher wrote: »
    I'll give Eddie a pass since he's right and he clearly has PTSD

    Yeah we know he's right, but how the hell do you trust crazy ass not wells and his magic future machine? Its not like he predicted anything else you can trust. I mean at this point all Barry would have had to do to break them up is have a joke paper made that said he and Iris have like 9 kids dated one year later and bam eddie would have broken up with her.

    Well, Eddie says his reasoning isn't based on what Wells said. Eddie really does have a point about what their relationship has been like, and Eddie is a cop; he's going to notice the sorts of details that would make him doubt the relationship.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I just couldn't help but notice yet again a man in Iris's life was telling her how things will go. "No you love Barry, that's that nothing can ever change."

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Well in this case Eddie wants to end it on his terms. He's not trying to rob her of agency he's just telling her that it won't work and it'd be unfair to both of them to keep up a facade

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Seemed like way too much giving up to me, and again relying on evil Wells to tell him things won't work which again seems dubious.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    Well in this case Eddie wants to end it on his terms. He's not trying to rob her of agency he's just telling her that it won't work and it'd be unfair to both of them to keep up a facade

    It's just, destiny is bullshit. Every time you fuck around with the past (and, to be clear, the Flashverse is timefucked), you create a new future. If Eddie decides that he cares about Iris (for some reason; she's cute I guess), then maybe Iris West-Allen never comes to be. Maybe it still does, after she and Eddie give it their best shot and everyone is in different circumstances (and 90s-feminist hyphenated names apparently come back into style).

    Of course, Eddie is a cop, not a speculative science fiction author or temporal theorist, so I guess I can see where he's coming from.

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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    The Paper byline changes with history though with even minor stuff like a case of the yips. So Barry does in fact marry Iris in the next five years or the byline would change.


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    King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    The Paper byline changes with history though with even minor stuff like a case of the yips. So Barry does in fact marry Iris in the next five years or the byline would change.


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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    I guess Eddie has never heard of the concept of divorce.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    I guess Eddie has never heard of the concept of divorce.

    Well, if someone from the future shows me proof that the girl I'm dating is 100 percent going to dump me for her step brother sometime soon but may get divorced at a later day so I've got a shot, I'm still taking that as a sign that I need to walk away.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    So Eddie is a time bomb of some sort now right? Otherwise why leave your "insurance" behind? Did he mess with his brain? Swap bodies? He's acting fairly screwed up and dehydrated, but we saw him pretty peppy earlier. Now that was a day or two, but he seemed really beat up.

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    I guess Eddie has never heard of the concept of divorce.

    Well, if someone from the future shows me proof that the girl I'm dating is 100 percent going to dump me for her step brother sometime soon but may get divorced at a later day so I've got a shot, I'm still taking that as a sign that I need to walk away.

    It could also mean that Iris divorced Eddie before marrying Barry so he could have seen it as a chance to avoid divorce.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So Eddie is a time bomb of some sort now right? Otherwise why leave your "insurance" behind? Did he mess with his brain? Swap bodies? He's acting fairly screwed up and dehydrated, but we saw him pretty peppy earlier. Now that was a day or two, but he seemed really beat up.

    Nah he was just a pawn to distract the team looking all over the city instead of investigating star labs and discovering wells was really hiding there. If eddie isn't kidnapped Barry wouldn't spend all his time running around the city looking for him.

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    DracomicronDracomicron Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So Eddie is a time bomb of some sort now right? Otherwise why leave your "insurance" behind? Did he mess with his brain? Swap bodies? He's acting fairly screwed up and dehydrated, but we saw him pretty peppy earlier. Now that was a day or two, but he seemed really beat up.

    My first thought was that it wasn't Eddie, since he was talking about clues that were "right in front of you." Suggested that Eobard had replaced him already... though that doesn't really bear out with the rest of the episode.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    So Eddie is a time bomb of some sort now right? Otherwise why leave your "insurance" behind? Did he mess with his brain? Swap bodies? He's acting fairly screwed up and dehydrated, but we saw him pretty peppy earlier. Now that was a day or two, but he seemed really beat up.

    My first thought was that it wasn't Eddie, since he was talking about clues that were "right in front of you." Suggested that Eobard had replaced him already... though that doesn't really bear out with the rest of the episode.

    Yeah it seemed super weird. But then Eobard showed up wait a second time travel.

    Wait, liquid only really rises when time travel shenanigans are happening right? Not necessarily "Because RF is around" like Cisco said?

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    Preacher wrote: »
    I'll give Eddie a pass since he's right and he clearly has PTSD

    Yeah we know he's right, but how the hell do you trust crazy ass not wells and his magic future machine?

    He was starving, hadn't had enough to drink - which does not put you in the clearest frame of mind to begin with - and had nothing to do for entire days except sit there and brood over every single moment with him and Barry and Iris ever.

    The fact that it was a supervillain who started him thinking about it is basically immaterial. His own brain would have done 99% of the work.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Must have been the return labels. He gets out of captivity, sees those and just is like "that's it no more, who orders 2000 return labels even by accident? A crazy person thats who!"

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    KingofMadCowsKingofMadCows Registered User regular
    It was kind of weird how they kind of just forgot about the
    ARGUS plane crash. A plane crash is kind of a big deal and a lot of people probably died.

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    RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    I might have forgotten but was Tawne's motive behind ruining Eddie's and Iris' relationship?

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    skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I might have forgotten but was Tawne's motive behind ruining Eddie's and Iris' relationship?

    He just really hates Iris.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    skeldare wrote: »
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I might have forgotten but was Tawne's motive behind ruining Eddie's and Iris' relationship?

    He just really hates Iris.

    Nah its Barry, clearly he's seen the future and knows the best way to make him miserable is to make sure he marries Iris.

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    klemmingklemming Registered User regular
    Okay episode, but you could see the result coming from a mile away.
    At least they didn't directly quote the scorpion and the frog story, even if they were following it a little obviously.

    A couple of questions:
    When did they get a Cyclops copy in the meta-Prison? Did I miss an episode?
    And did no-one suggest just keeping them unconscious for the whole trip? It seemed to work fine.

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    edited May 2015
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I might have forgotten but was Tawne's motive behind ruining Eddie's and Iris' relationship?

    If he's Eddie's direct descendant (which we don't know for sure - Eddie might be a great-whatever uncle or cousin) then Thawne has a really obvious motive: it's to make sure that Eddie marries the right person so that he, Eobard, can eventually be born. It's the Back to the Future thing.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Cyclops villain came from Arrow, Ollie and Crew caught him. And drugging people for extended periods of time is very dangerous to the people.

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    RavelleRavelle Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    skeldare wrote: »
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I might have forgotten but was Tawne's motive behind ruining Eddie's and Iris' relationship?

    He just really hates Iris.

    Nah its Barry, clearly he's seen the future and knows the best way to make him miserable is to make sure he marries Iris.

    Haha, that made me laugh. It's Lana Lang all over again.

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    SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    klemming wrote: »
    Okay episode, but you could see the result coming from a mile away.
    At least they didn't directly quote the scorpion and the frog story, even if they were following it a little obviously.

    A couple of questions:
    When did they get a Cyclops copy in the meta-Prison? Did I miss an episode?
    And did no-one suggest just keeping them unconscious for the whole trip? It seemed to work fine.

    Kinda hard to gas the entire truck that long without overdosing them I'd guess. Can't do specific to person since they're all in the same truck.

    Deathbolt showed up on Arrow too, so that might be what you missed?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    Ravelle wrote: »
    I might have forgotten but was Tawne's motive behind ruining Eddie's and Iris' relationship?

    If he's Eddie's direct descendant (which we don't know for sure - Eddie might be a great-whatever uncle or cousin) then Thawne has a really obvious motive: it's to make sure that Eddie marries the right person so that he, Eobard, can eventually be born. It's the Back to the Future thing.

    I'm just sad we never got Wells version of a classic rock anthem to make sure Eddie hooks up with Hilda at the police ball.

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