It's funny that at the start Cisco kind of got on my nerves and at this point I'd totally be up for a show that was just him, Wells, and Caitlyn tinkering and being snappy at each other.
It's funny that at the start Cisco kind of got on my nerves and at this point I'd totally be up for a show that was just him, Wells, and Caitlyn tinkering and being snappy at each other.
This happens a lot on CW shows because they use such young actors. Sometimes these shows are their first real acting gigs (this is the case with Valdes, the actor who plays Cisco) so when they first start they aren't very good and have to grow into their roles as they go.
Particularly the little exchange when Cisco managed to zap Laurel and Caitlin yells at him to do it again.
Honorable mention: Wells' ego butting in to Cisco's speech. I like that they're softening Wells up a little. Still a dick, but not quite so dour, and enjoying science again.
And no one questioned why Cisco just happened to have
the costumes of his and Caitlin's evil super villain doppelgangers.
Also, Cisco should have proven his evilness by not washing his hands after going to the bathroom.
That one is easy.
Cisco is super into Earth-2 LARP and cosplay.
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.
He had them for PotterCon, Moaning Myrtle.
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Oh come on already, show.
From the photos that CW has released, it looks like Zoom is threatening Joe so that Flash has to do the big race.
"He's sulking in his tent like Achilles! It's the Iliad?...from Homer?! READ A BOOK!!" -Handy
There was that bit in the club in a previous episode where the Jesse's detector was going off and we assumed it was Wally. Jesse shouldn't have been a meta then, but if it was detecting Barry, then he was a meta from Earth-1 that it was detecting A-OK
Well we could solve the whole problem by making Wally a villian for about 5 minutes, which is long enough for Barry to take his mask off in front of them.
Cause we know the way this works, to protect your family from your super hero ness, never tell your family about it, but tell all your enemies.
Well we could solve the whole problem by making Wally a villian for about 5 minutes, which is long enough for Barry to take his mask off in front of them.
Cause we know the way this works, to protect your family from your super hero ness, never tell your family about it, but tell all your enemies.
and that one time tell your ex girlfriend because you need her to be in on a plot that doesnt work
Well we could solve the whole problem by making Wally a villian for about 5 minutes, which is long enough for Barry to take his mask off in front of them.
Cause we know the way this works, to protect your family from your super hero ness, never tell your family about it, but tell all your enemies.
and that one time tell your ex girlfriend because you need her to be in on a plot that doesnt work
But don't tell your current girlfriend who knows you are lying to keep a secret from her.
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Did we discuss that he didn't hide his face with the blur while talking to the cop guy before he did his little swap-a-roo?
That was so dumb. This is some superman/clark kent shit right here.
Is it just me, or is the CGI budget looking a bit thin? My partner and I both thought the scene where Dr McGee got rescued looked more like something out of 'The Sims'.
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Is it just me, or is the CGI budget looking a bit thin? My partner and I both thought the scene where Dr McGee got rescued looked more like something out of 'The Sims'.
Nah its always looked like shit when they go CGI barry.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Is it just me, or is the CGI budget looking a bit thin? My partner and I both thought the scene where Dr McGee got rescued looked more like something out of 'The Sims'.
I thought that scene was neat.
But then, a lot of the time when people are critical of animation technique and CGI effects I feel the same way. Except for the Transformers movies which I maintain looked stupid from the first trailer of the first film right up to the present.
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All the old dynavision effects still basically hold up to this day though.
Man I ain't gonna say shit about CGI budgets ever because i lived through the late 80s and early 90s. I feel lucky as fuck that there's a Flash television show that don't got the gaudy ridiculousness of West Batman or Star Trek TOS models.
I used my imagination most of the damn time anyway. So if he looks a little less like an actual person running through a tumbling building at superhuman speeds I can forgive it.
Nerds are fucking crazy. Like they forgot yesterday.
I dunno, we watch a lot of B movies, and this bit of the scene was bad enough to make us both say 'what the hell?' - more the way Dr McGee looked than the Flash, I think they normally do pretty well with him for a TV show.
Found a clip! Starts at about 1:35, and it just looks like a first pass with janky rag-doll physics or something.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still glad as hell that I can watch a TV show that is doing this! But it just really stood out to both my fiancee and I.
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The writers could have found a way to have Zoom succeed in doing what he did without Barry just STANDING THERE LIKE AN IDIOT WHO FORGOT HE HAS SPEED POWERS. I know they make Barry move at the speed of plot, and even with his new zen outlook that the speedforce has got his back he still just stood there and let Black Siren hit him with her cry, but I mean, at the end I wanted to flip a table. AT LEAST MOVE!
The writers could have found a way to have Zoom succeed in doing what he did without Barry just STANDING THERE LIKE AN IDIOT WHO FORGOT HE HAS SPEED POWERS. I know they make Barry move at the speed of plot, and even with his new zen outlook that the speedforce has got his back he still just stood there and let Black Siren hit him with her cry, but I mean, at the end I wanted to flip a table. AT LEAST MOVE!
Last scene:
If they want Zoom to monologue and kill Papa-Flash, at least have him and Barry fight first. Just smoosh their lighting up in a big furball and have Zoom clap one of those restraining devices (stolen from the never-locked STAR Labs) on Barry, then do it. Have Barry screaming as he tries to smash it, you know, making an effort to save his fucking father.
What does that cost, production wise? A prop from 4 episodes ago, some bloody makeup, and 200 frames of speedster lightning. You hit the same story notes, Barry doesn't look like a spectator, and Zoom gets to demonstrate something approaching competence as opposed to skirting by, once again, solely because his adversary is an idiot.
The writers could have found a way to have Zoom succeed in doing what he did without Barry just STANDING THERE LIKE AN IDIOT WHO FORGOT HE HAS SPEED POWERS. I know they make Barry move at the speed of plot, and even with his new zen outlook that the speedforce has got his back he still just stood there and let Black Siren hit him with her cry, but I mean, at the end I wanted to flip a table. AT LEAST MOVE!
Last scene:
If they want Zoom to monologue and kill Papa-Flash, at least have him and Barry fight first. Just smoosh their lighting up in a big furball and have Zoom clap one of those restraining devices (stolen from the never-locked STAR Labs) on Barry, then do it. Have Barry screaming as he tries to smash it, you know, making an effort to save his fucking father.
What does that cost, production wise? A prop from 4 episodes ago, some bloody makeup, and 200 frames of speedster lightning. You hit the same story notes, Barry doesn't look like a spectator, and Zoom gets to demonstrate something approaching competence as opposed to skirting by, once again, solely because his adversary is an idiot.
No, a prop from the SAME episode, Joe'd just used one to save Wally from a meta.
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I was thinking about this earlier... Patty doesn't even feel like she was here this season, that's how disconnected I feel about it compared to the back half.
If the Flash writers could go back to writing Barry like the Supergirl writers did, I'd be pleased.
This. Seriously. I had forgotten how good Gustin is at playing the happy optimistic Flash until I saw that episode. Bring that Barry back and all of this shows problems would seem to disappear. I can forgive a disconnected season and surprise twist that made a villain intolerable (I honestly didn't mind Zoom until the reveal) as long as the main character is fun to watch.
If the Flash writers could go back to writing Barry like the Supergirl writers did, I'd be pleased.
This. Seriously. I had forgotten how good Gustin is at playing the happy optimistic Flash until I saw that episode. Bring that Barry back and all of this shows problems would seem to disappear. I can forgive a disconnected season and surprise twist that made a villain intolerable (I honestly didn't mind Zoom until the reveal) as long as the main character is fun to watch.
Basically the season 3 premiere needs to be a music meister episode
I was telling my husband last night (when we finally got to watch this week's Flash) that Barry's newfound optimism represented the first season, and all his friends trying to harsh his mellow represented the writers this season. :biggrin:
I was thinking about this earlier... Patty doesn't even feel like she was here this season, that's how disconnected I feel about it compared to the back half.
I went through the episodes from the first half of the series again and most of them were fun. I forgot that the Trickster was in this season as well as the Captain Cold father episode. I think after they went to E2, it all went downhill.
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I was thinking about this earlier... Patty doesn't even feel like she was here this season, that's how disconnected I feel about it compared to the back half.
I went through the episodes from the first half of the series again and most of them were fun. I forgot that the Trickster was in this season as well as the Captain Cold father episode. I think after they went to E2, it all went downhill.
Actually, thinking back on it, the whole premise of what Zoom does at the end of the episode makes no sense, because Barry did
See his Mother get murdered right in front of his eyes, and hold her as she lay dying, when he traveled back in time with Reverse Flash at the end of Season 1
Actually, thinking back on it, the whole premise of what Zoom does at the end of the episode makes no sense, because Barry did
See his Mother get murdered right in front of his eyes, and hold her as she lay dying, when he traveled back in time with Reverse Flash at the end of Season 1
He wasn't sad enough. I mean, look at Zoom's logic for Caitlin being his girlfriend.
Also, it feels like they're trying to riff on Zoom II from the comics, who wants Wally to be a better speedster/hero through tragedy and death instead of just being a good person.
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This happens a lot on CW shows because they use such young actors. Sometimes these shows are their first real acting gigs (this is the case with Valdes, the actor who plays Cisco) so when they first start they aren't very good and have to grow into their roles as they go.
right?
let's just drag it out til next season
Well you see, Wally, what had happened was Zoom tried to kidnap Barry too and the Flash rescued him.
Wells should point it out, though.
Cause we know the way this works, to protect your family from your super hero ness, never tell your family about it, but tell all your enemies.
and that one time tell your ex girlfriend because you need her to be in on a plot that doesnt work
But don't tell your current girlfriend who knows you are lying to keep a secret from her.
That was so dumb. This is some superman/clark kent shit right here.
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Nah its always looked like shit when they go CGI barry.
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I thought that scene was neat.
But then, a lot of the time when people are critical of animation technique and CGI effects I feel the same way. Except for the Transformers movies which I maintain looked stupid from the first trailer of the first film right up to the present.
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All the old dynavision effects still basically hold up to this day though.
Stop-motion skeletons: still creepy as fuck
I used my imagination most of the damn time anyway. So if he looks a little less like an actual person running through a tumbling building at superhuman speeds I can forgive it.
Nerds are fucking crazy. Like they forgot yesterday.
Found a clip! Starts at about 1:35, and it just looks like a first pass with janky rag-doll physics or something.
Don't get me wrong, I'm still glad as hell that I can watch a TV show that is doing this! But it just really stood out to both my fiancee and I.
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Last scene:
What does that cost, production wise? A prop from 4 episodes ago, some bloody makeup, and 200 frames of speedster lightning. You hit the same story notes, Barry doesn't look like a spectator, and Zoom gets to demonstrate something approaching competence as opposed to skirting by, once again, solely because his adversary is an idiot.
Wells: Ah, I didn't know you cared
Joe: Yes you did.
Grant I love you babe, but seriously the writers this season do not inspire me to believe you.
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This. Seriously. I had forgotten how good Gustin is at playing the happy optimistic Flash until I saw that episode. Bring that Barry back and all of this shows problems would seem to disappear. I can forgive a disconnected season and surprise twist that made a villain intolerable (I honestly didn't mind Zoom until the reveal) as long as the main character is fun to watch.
Basically the season 3 premiere needs to be a music meister episode
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Had to check to see if this was from The Onion.
I must be too attached to my father, because I don't think I could keep any kind of upbeat attitude after
But then, I didn't spend my formative years choosing a profession that would help me exonerate him and get him released from prison.
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Oh my god that's brutal.
I went through the episodes from the first half of the series again and most of them were fun. I forgot that the Trickster was in this season as well as the Captain Cold father episode. I think after they went to E2, it all went downhill.
I'm like 50% serious with that. It was a marked change right around that time.
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Also, it feels like they're trying to riff on Zoom II from the comics, who wants Wally to be a better speedster/hero through tragedy and death instead of just being a good person.