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[The Witcher Thread] HEARTS OF STONE xp out 13/10/15. Comes with 2 physical gwent decks

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  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    just finished the game.
    It's a better da:o in some respects.
    It suffers from da:o's flaws as well, though.

    On a sidenote, a question for those lore heroes:
    sooooo I'm not entirely sure how ciri is connected to Yen.
    From what i can gather Geralt asked for a "surprise" customary reward which turned out to be a child.
    Takes said child to Kaer Morhen and trains Ciri as a witcher.

    I can see the father figure thing going on there.
    But how the hell does Yen figure into it? The game sells her as a motherly figure but the character bios don't answer my question.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • Kaboodles_The_AssassinKaboodles_The_Assassin Kill the meat. Save the metal.Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    just finished the game.
    It's a better da:o in some respects.
    It suffers from da:o's flaws as well, though.

    On a sidenote, a question for those lore heroes:
    sooooo I'm not entirely sure how ciri is connected to Yen.
    From what i can gather Geralt asked for a "surprise" customary reward which turned out to be a child.
    Takes said child to Kaer Morhen and trains Ciri as a witcher.

    I can see the father figure thing going on there.
    But how the hell does Yen figure into it? The game sells her as a motherly figure but the character bios don't answer my question.

    The books cover that part. Triss convinces Geralt and friends that they're not equipped to raise Ciri because of her crazy powers, so they send her to Nenneke's temple and Geralt asks Yen to teach her how to control her powers. Yen basically takes over raising her while teaching her magic and eventually regards her as the daughter she could never have (being sterile and all). So Ciri was actually trained to be half witcher, half sorceress.

    I've only read some of the books so I have no idea how she got her crazy planeswalker abilities. Last I read of her she had lost her control over magic after trying to draw power from fire and joined up with a ruthless gang of bandits kids, of which she became the cruelest. Curious to see how that panned out.

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  • PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    just finished the game.
    It's a better da:o in some respects.
    It suffers from da:o's flaws as well, though.

    On a sidenote, a question for those lore heroes:
    sooooo I'm not entirely sure how ciri is connected to Yen.
    From what i can gather Geralt asked for a "surprise" customary reward which turned out to be a child.
    Takes said child to Kaer Morhen and trains Ciri as a witcher.

    I can see the father figure thing going on there.
    But how the hell does Yen figure into it? The game sells her as a motherly figure but the character bios don't answer my question.

    From the books, it's just that Yennifer loves Geralt, Geralt loves Yennifer and they both love Ciri. They're basically the girl's surrogate mother and father.

  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    just finished the game.
    It's a better da:o in some respects.
    It suffers from da:o's flaws as well, though.

    On a sidenote, a question for those lore heroes:
    sooooo I'm not entirely sure how ciri is connected to Yen.
    From what i can gather Geralt asked for a "surprise" customary reward which turned out to be a child.
    Takes said child to Kaer Morhen and trains Ciri as a witcher.

    I can see the father figure thing going on there.
    But how the hell does Yen figure into it? The game sells her as a motherly figure but the character bios don't answer my question.

    From the books, it's just that Yennifer loves Geralt, Geralt loves Yennifer and they both love Ciri. They're basically the girl's surrogate mother and father.

    on that point, regarding gennefer .. Yenalt ... whatever :p
    I don't see the attraction. at all.
    Or rather I'd understand if it Geralt runs after women that are bad for him but uurrrrrgh Yen is just so self-absorbed. She doesn't treat anyone as an equal. From a game POV I suppose the djinni spell explains it but why would Geralt ask the djinni to do that in the first place?!

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    I fucking hate that I have this stupid game breaking bug with this shitty brick. I can't progress because I can't use this stupid brick. What a fucking cocktease of a bullshit fucking thing

  • YougottawannaYougottawanna Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Yen's not all bad - she genuinely cares for Ciri and tries to do the right thing more than 50% of the time... she's just not as cool as Triss IMO. I think the game does a good job of showing why Geralt and Yennefer are into to each other and also why they can't stand each other.

    End of Witcher 2 spoilers:
    I get the impression that the devs are on Team Triss to be honest. Talking with Letho about Yennefer at the end of TW2, he says something like "never understood what you saw in her, but I guess there's no accounting for taste."

    The one thing I don't really like about Triss is her voice acting I think. She sounds too young to my ears, and is just on the edge of coming off as ditzy sometimes. Strange that the only characters with American accents (I think) are Triss and the Witchers.

    Yougottawanna on
  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    hmm this ladies of the wood quest.
    i'm debating if i should free this spirit from the tree. it sounded familar so i checked all the books about and lo and behold, theres a book i found about how there were 4 ladies, a mother and 3 daughters yet the mother went mad the book claims... hmm i dont know. i went into the basement of the ladies house and saw the altar with the blood on it and then there is the whole thing with the dagger so im 98% sure they are killing those kids, because this is the hansel and gretel fairytale almost, the trail of treats.

    but then im sure gran is anna and i dont want to risk end up killing her after whats shes been through. hmph choices choices.

  • KarozKaroz Registered User regular
    Yeah that Northern Realms Gwent Deck I mentioned on the previous page has served me well, just finished all the Gwent: Playing Innkeepers and Velen Players added Roche and Yennefer to my deck and it's serving me well.

    Hardly top tier stuff but if anyone else wants an idea here is the list:
    Norther Realms: Tight Bonds

    Leader: Foltest, Lord Commander of the North (clears all weather)

    Special cards (4/10):
    Decoy x1
    Scorch x1
    Commander's Warhorn x1
    Clear Weather x1

    Unit Cards (24/22):
    Melee:
    Blue Stripes Commando x3 (4, Tight Bond)
    Sigismund Dijstka x1 (4, Spy)
    Prince Stennis x1 (5, Spy)
    Zoltan Chivay x1 (5)
    Emiel Regis Rohellec Terzieff x1 (5)
    Ves x1 (5)
    Siegfried of Densesle x1 (5)
    Vernon Roche (10, Hero)

    Ranged:
    Sabrina Glevissig x1 (4)
    Sheldon Skaags x1 (4)
    Sile de Tanserville x1 (5)
    Keira Metz x1 (5)
    Crinfrid Reavers Dragon Hunter x2 (5, Tight Bond)
    Dethmold x1 (6)
    Yennefer of Vengerberg (7, Hero, Medic)

    Siege:
    Kaedweni Siege Expert x1 (1, Morale Boost)
    Dun Banner Medic x1 (5, Medic)
    Ballista x1 (6)
    Trebuchet x2 (6)
    Catapult x1 (8, Tight Bond)

    The nice thing is I've only replaced about 7 cards from the original deck you get plus changed the Leader. It could use some work but getting out all of my Blues Stripes (after baiting out their Scorch) is a thing of beauty.

    BionicPenguin
  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    wiminz:
    yay for google!

    I concur. Triss is the superior sorceress.
    The djinni wish explains everything, Yen can go suck eggs.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Karoz wrote: »
    Yeah that Northern Realms Gwent Deck I mentioned on the previous page has served me well, just finished all the Gwent: Playing Innkeepers and Velen Players added Roche and Yennefer to my deck and it's serving me well.

    Hardly top tier stuff but if anyone else wants an idea here is the list:
    Norther Realms: Tight Bonds

    Leader: Foltest, Lord Commander of the North (clears all weather)

    Special cards (4/10):
    Decoy x1
    Scorch x1
    Commander's Warhorn x1
    Clear Weather x1

    Unit Cards (24/22):
    Melee:
    Blue Stripes Commando x3 (4, Tight Bond)
    Sigismund Dijstka x1 (4, Spy)
    Prince Stennis x1 (5, Spy)
    Zoltan Chivay x1 (5)
    Emiel Regis Rohellec Terzieff x1 (5)
    Ves x1 (5)
    Siegfried of Densesle x1 (5)
    Vernon Roche (10, Hero)

    Ranged:
    Sabrina Glevissig x1 (4)
    Sheldon Skaags x1 (4)
    Sile de Tanserville x1 (5)
    Keira Metz x1 (5)
    Crinfrid Reavers Dragon Hunter x2 (5, Tight Bond)
    Dethmold x1 (6)
    Yennefer of Vengerberg (7, Hero, Medic)

    Siege:
    Kaedweni Siege Expert x1 (1, Morale Boost)
    Dun Banner Medic x1 (5, Medic)
    Ballista x1 (6)
    Trebuchet x2 (6)
    Catapult x1 (8, Tight Bond)

    The nice thing is I've only replaced about 7 cards from the original deck you get plus changed the Leader. It could use some work but getting out all of my Blues Stripes (after baiting out their Scorch) is a thing of beauty.

    That's very similar to my deck. I dropped scorch and added another warhorn, though. I find I tend to have the highest value cards on the board, so scorch was often a waste. Also, I find the AI often uses scorch on 6 strength cards and almost always uses it on 8+, so I'll usually use my siege units to bait it and then just use medics to bring them back.

  • OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    the boatwright in gwent just played every weather card then scorched the whole board except for his hero which was immune, of course

    fuuuuuuuuuuu

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  • AstaleAstale Registered User regular
    Triss and Yen are both awful.

    Can you tell both of them to go fuck a tree? Is that allowed?

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I think I just gained 4 levels from a long series of cutscenes.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. Now With Ninjas!

    They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
    Arthil
  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    All you guys talking about gwent.
    My next playthrough I am definitely playing gwent.

    (PSN: Morninglord) (Steam: Morninglord) (WiiU: Morninglord22) I like to record and toss up a lot of random gaming videos here.
  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    Re: gwent strats

    -Early on I find getting siege Foltest the easiest way to win games.
    -Keep a clear weather card to make sure you don't get rained on.
    -Add spies and decoys to your deck as you get them.
    -Frost/dragon combo is really important. particularly against scoiatel and monster decks (muster). Later on it's your first round easy win. I.e. play all the spy cards, decoy enemy spies, play those too, AI will likely pass, you then combo his front line and win with 2 cards.
    -Replace weaker cards with hero units, spies, medics and siege units if going for foltest. Seriously, everything else can be trashed. as nice as blue stripes and reavers are, you'd have to bloat your deck to make them work.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    I very rarely lose gwent games, and I run zero weather cards. Spies and force multipliers are the way to go until you have a good stock of heroes.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. Now With Ninjas!

    They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
    BionicPenguinKetBra
  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    Weather cards are too situational.

  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    OptimusZed wrote: »
    I very rarely lose gwent games, and I run zero weather cards. Spies and force multipliers are the way to go until you have a good stock of heroes.

    perhaps that's why you lose rarely ;P

    I suppose pure hero decks could be beaten by muster decks, warhorning them and keeping a sacrificial minion out would prevent scorch/dragon losses.
    Although the fact that you don't get as many copies of cards as the NPCs make me a bit weary of the idea.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Hero-strong decks are very limited in comparison to other deck setups, potentially

    Outside of the Geralt and Ciri cards, every other hero can be skunked by a decent Muster multiplier on most soldier cards, especially after pairups or supports

    The thing about heroes are that they're safe, but if they make up the biggest part of your deck then you're going to end up with some very serious limitations in terms of just laying down points

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    optimizing the game for responsiveness is amazing

    i tried out those tweaks and then went to dance with a group of 4 drowners about 6 levels higher than me

    got hit maybe once, but i was just sliding around and in between them, it was ludicrous. so good.

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  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    ladies of the wood
    freed the spirit. something is nagging me about the madness bit in the book though but she sounds like the truth about the kid eating is true and she wants to help so maybe everything will be okay?

    who am i kidding, this is the witcher, something is going to fuck me up later i know it.

    QuicalShadowfire
  • DonnictonDonnicton Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    just finished the game.
    It's a better da:o in some respects.
    It suffers from da:o's flaws as well, though.

    On a sidenote, a question for those lore heroes:
    sooooo I'm not entirely sure how ciri is connected to Yen.
    From what i can gather Geralt asked for a "surprise" customary reward which turned out to be a child.
    Takes said child to Kaer Morhen and trains Ciri as a witcher.

    I can see the father figure thing going on there.
    But how the hell does Yen figure into it? The game sells her as a motherly figure but the character bios don't answer my question.

    The books cover that part. Triss convinces Geralt and friends that they're not equipped to raise Ciri because of her crazy powers, so they send her to Nenneke's temple and Geralt asks Yen to teach her how to control her powers. Yen basically takes over raising her while teaching her magic and eventually regards her as the daughter she could never have (being sterile and all). So Ciri was actually trained to be half witcher, half sorceress.

    I've only read some of the books so I have no idea how she got her crazy planeswalker abilities. Last I read of her she had lost her control over magic after trying to draw power from fire and joined up with a ruthless gang of bandits kids, of which she became the cruelest. Curious to see how that panned out.

    As far as Ciri's powers,
    I believe the basic idea is that Ciri is an accidental descendant of an Aen Elle "breeding program", which involved pairing elves with talents over time and space in order to create offspring that grew stronger and stronger planeswalking powers with each subsequent generation. They wanted to create a child that could allow the Aen Elle to walk between worlds at-will.

    However as they were approaching the final generations of this program with Lara Dorren, she rejected their chosen partner and fell in love with a human mage instead, fucking up their plans. Since then they've been after the descendants of Lara Dorren(i.e. Ciri) in order to try to breed them back into the elven bloodline.

  • DeaderinredDeaderinred Registered User regular
    ladies of the wood
    freed the spirit. something is nagging me about the madness bit in the book though but she sounds like the truth about the kid eating is true and she wants to help so maybe everything will be okay?

    who am i kidding, this is the witcher, something is going to fuck me up later i know it.
    i just met the ladies in the flesh. fuck it no matter what happens i made the right choice and im going to let all 3 taste silver. jesus.

    QuicalLockedOnTargetShadowfire
  • mastmanmastman Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    I'm wondering how far I am into the game and how much I have left.

    I just returned to Khaer Moen
    and turned Uma.
    so I'm to go recruit allies and summon the Wild Hunt to Khaer Moen

    Cause I'm doing these quests cause they're about my level and I don't want to end the game cause they have game ending names

    mastman on
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  • evilthecatevilthecat Registered User regular
    mastman wrote: »
    I'm wondering how far I am into the game and how much I have left.

    I just returned to Khaer Moen
    and turned Uma.
    so I'm to go recruit allies and summon the Wild Hunt to Khaer Moen

    Cause I'm doing these quests cause they're about my level and I don't want to end the game cause they have game ending names

    information!
    the game becomes ALOT more linear after you start with ugly baby.
    HOWEVER, there are several opportunities to go off and do side missions.
    the last mission name I can think of is "final preparations".
    And even if you're on that one you can still go off and do other things.

    tip.. tip.. TALLY.. HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
    mastman
  • Big ClassyBig Classy Registered User regular
    evilthecat wrote: »
    evilthecat wrote: »
    just finished the game.
    It's a better da:o in some respects.
    It suffers from da:o's flaws as well, though.

    On a sidenote, a question for those lore heroes:
    sooooo I'm not entirely sure how ciri is connected to Yen.
    From what i can gather Geralt asked for a "surprise" customary reward which turned out to be a child.
    Takes said child to Kaer Morhen and trains Ciri as a witcher.

    I can see the father figure thing going on there.
    But how the hell does Yen figure into it? The game sells her as a motherly figure but the character bios don't answer my question.

    From the books, it's just that Yennifer loves Geralt, Geralt loves Yennifer and they both love Ciri. They're basically the girl's surrogate mother and father.

    on that point, regarding gennefer .. Yenalt ... whatever :p
    I don't see the attraction. at all.
    Or rather I'd understand if it Geralt runs after women that are bad for him but uurrrrrgh Yen is just so self-absorbed. She doesn't treat anyone as an equal. From a game POV I suppose the djinni spell explains it but why would Geralt ask the djinni to do that in the first place?!

    Only way for the
    djinn to not destroy Yennefer and the town was for Geralt to make his last wish. But the wish has to be precise. If he wished for the town to be saved then the djinn might've destroyed all the people but left the town in tact, in order to kill Yennefer. Only way was to bind his fate to that of Yennefer so then the djinn it's freed and everybody is safe. The book even mentions Geralt notices Yennefers flaws, which they show in the game so well. (crooked shoulder, slightly long nose etc).

  • OptimusZedOptimusZed Registered User regular
    Quen at +200% intensity feels like cheating.

    We're reading Rifts. You should too. You know you want to. Now With Ninjas!

    They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
    Arthil
  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Think I figured out why Ciri just isn't gelling with me so far.

    Its her voice actor. She's abit too peppy for me.

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    Deaderinred
  • DashuiDashui Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    ladies of the wood
    freed the spirit. something is nagging me about the madness bit in the book though but she sounds like the truth about the kid eating is true and she wants to help so maybe everything will be okay?

    who am i kidding, this is the witcher, something is going to fuck me up later i know it.
    i just met the ladies in the flesh. fuck it no matter what happens i made the right choice and im going to let all 3 taste silver. jesus.

    Both options leave things kind of fucked. There's no good choice there. Basically I wish I could just
    put down everyone involved, the spirit and the crones.

    Dashui on
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  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    I just got done trying to explain the crones and family ties thing to a co-worker. Interesting conversation to have with a non gamer.

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  • MorninglordMorninglord I'm tired of being Batman, so today I'll be Owl.Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Think I figured out why Ciri just isn't gelling with me so far.

    Its her voice actor. She's abit too peppy for me.

    What's wrong with peppy?

    (PSN: Morninglord) (Steam: Morninglord) (WiiU: Morninglord22) I like to record and toss up a lot of random gaming videos here.
    TaranisZilla360ArthilNyht
  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Is the XP bug fixed? I've been head down working this week.

  • BionicPenguinBionicPenguin Registered User regular
    No. I think the plan is to release a patch on Monday that should fix it.

    3cl1ps3
  • TaranisTaranis Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    3clipse wrote: »
    Is the XP bug fixed? I've been head down working this week.

    Not until Monday

    Edit: What the penguin said

    Taranis on
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  • ArthilArthil Registered User regular
    Banzai5150 wrote: »
    I just got done trying to explain the crones and family ties thing to a co-worker. Interesting conversation to have with a non gamer.

    Did his face slowly contort further in horror?

    PSN: Honishimo Steam UPlay: Arthil
  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Man, that Family Matters quest really goes some places.

    Shit got weird.

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  • OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    Guys! I just realized when you mouse over a fast travel spot on the map, you can see a short history of the area in the bottom left corner! It's cool.

    Carry on.

    Big ClassyDeaderinredZilla360
  • OnTheLastCastleOnTheLastCastle let's keep it haimish for the peripatetic Registered User regular
    Arthil wrote: »
    Banzai5150 wrote: »
    I just got done trying to explain the crones and family ties thing to a co-worker. Interesting conversation to have with a non gamer.

    Did his face slowly contort further in horror?

    It can't be worse than describing an episode of Game of Thrones.

    Donnicton
  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Dr. Chaos wrote: »
    Think I figured out why Ciri just isn't gelling with me so far.

    Its her voice actor. She's abit too peppy for me.

    What's wrong with peppy?
    No daughter of mine is going to grow up cheerful and spirited. :x

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  • 3cl1ps33cl1ps3 I will build a labyrinth to house the cheese Registered User regular
    Guess I resume playing on Monday! Thanks friends.

    tyrannus
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